Blog: remove AWP

#tactical_post
April 24th, 2013 14:15
The AWP needs to be removed from competitive matches. It has to go for good.

The main issue with the AWP is that it entirely removes the competitive part of the game. The whole point of a game like CS is to figure out how to use the different weapons, e.g. controlling your bursts and dealing with recoil. That is not necessary when using the AWP, all it takes is to camp on a spot near the hostages, and then cross your fingers that the enemy players will run out of smoke grenades, while waiting for that left-click instant kill.

I understand that the AWP is a great choice for less skilled players who wants to have fun and achieve a good score, however the reality is, that with the AWP, you are not achieving a good score simply by playing well, you are achieving a good score by leeching on the other players. It may be fun for the person who is laming with the AWP, but that fun is achieved on the expensive of all the hardworking players who actually tries to make the game entertaining.

Today I was playing two matches of CS:GO, the first map being Office and the second map being Italy. During the game, I was noting a player who did incredibly bad, constantly getting headshotted, while achieving an overwhelming negative score. It should be added that he was mainly using ordinary weapons, like the M4 rifle, etc.

However during the next match, he ran out and got killed 3 times in a row, with the sole purpose of saving up for the AWP. Once he bought the AWP he started to camp near the hostages, and from this point, his score started to rise to a point where it ended up being around 27-10, which is hilarious, given the fact that he had an overwhelming negative score during the first match where he was using ordinary guns.

The favorite argument by the leeching AWP'ers is to tell people to learn how to use smokes. Well the thing is, you can only carry one smoke grenade, and if half of the enemy team is camping with the AWP, then once you are out of smokes, you are basically dead AWP meat.

I wouldn't mind the AWP to be kept in casual matches, but please, do remove it from competitive matches, as it removes a huge chunk of the competitivity from the game.
I am not removing 'AWP' from my nick!
2013-04-24 14:20
kk timist
2013-04-24 14:21
i bet you prefer smgs dont you -_-
2013-04-24 18:32
#83
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United States criimson 
Sir you just proved to me that you are mentally challenged...Thanks
2013-04-24 22:10
Indian humour.
2013-04-24 14:22
Didn't even try.
2013-04-24 14:24
I love Indian humour. Please don't take offense.
2013-04-24 14:25
<3
2013-04-24 14:38
haha, so you are really indian if you don't get the sarcasm
2013-04-24 18:12
Well, you are really danish if you didn't get mine.
2013-04-24 18:22
indians gonna india
2013-04-24 23:15
AHHAHAHAH lold
2013-04-25 00:22
#3
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Europe jUN^ 
Go home rykun, you're drunk!
2013-04-24 14:22
haha
2013-04-24 14:26
+1. he just went full retard!
2013-04-24 20:52
i just wonder what is he had in his mind? =D
2013-04-24 21:48
Fail 101 rite here
2013-04-24 14:22
competitve , office, italy !!! smth wrong !!!
2013-04-24 14:24
#90
Korea ws0 
^^^ i was confused when he said hostages at the beginning, then came the maps. ROFL
2013-04-24 22:24
This is how you can rescue hostages :D CAMP n W8 lool ... ow w8 Office and Italy as competitive !!
2013-04-24 14:25
#11
Czech Republic jYrY 
3/10
2013-04-24 14:26
This blog is a joke, 'competetive' and 'hostage rescue maps'. There is a reason why the 'competetive' side plays bomb defusal, hostage rescue has and always will be, crap.
2013-04-24 14:29
The title was enough to call it a joke, isn't it? ^^
2013-04-24 21:50
BS, the AWP is not as OP as it was in 1.6. In GO it is not as useful as it used to be, and I think thats a good thing. PS: Italy, office? Wtf dude...
2013-04-24 14:31
The AWP wasn't that OP in 1.6 either. If it was, we would have a lot more awpers. Awp used to be OP, back in beta, one hit always killed, no matter if you hit the head or the toe.
2013-04-24 14:45
yea but that was so long ago ^_^ you can be so much more versatile with the awp in 1.6. A good awper in 1.6 could lock down a map for their team i.e. dust2, train. With GO this doesn't seem to be the case, you see good awpers like GuardiaN and KennyS force teams to work around them, but not like in the 1.6 days. It seems to come down to the riflers in GO that are the workhorses. The movement in GO does not allow for aggressive awpers to be as dominant as they were. Plus quickscoping is so much easier in 1.6, especially when you can hop and snap to angles. Also the smokes in GO are insane, in 1.6 you can atleast doublescope and see a piece of someone in a smoke or two, but 2 smokes in GO is like an abyss.
2013-04-24 23:58
play office and italy,then say awp should removed from competetive matches. ok.
2013-04-24 14:31
#15
Argentina 257 
remove the awp? hostages? italy? competitive? LOL
2013-04-24 14:35
Totally agree
2013-04-24 14:35
+1
2013-04-24 15:55
yes... awp should go...i agree with you.. now you gotta agree with me too when i say that yo mama and dada didn't make you right...
2013-04-24 14:38
gtfo this forum...
2013-04-24 14:38
"The AWP needs to be removed from competitive matches. It has to go for good." Nope "The main issue with the AWP is that it entirely removes the competitive part of the game. The whole point of a game like CS is to figure out how to use the different weapons, e.g. controlling your bursts and dealing with recoil. That is not necessary when using the AWP, all it takes is to camp on a spot near the hostages, and then cross your fingers that the enemy players will run out of smoke grenades, while waiting for that left-click instant kill." Nope. The awp has been around for ages. Yet CS remains as competitive. CS is very competitive and awpers among the most famous/liked players. And why are the awpers so famous? Cause it's not easy to handle and clearly not a gun you can get a "free pass" with. "I understand that the AWP is a great choice for less skilled players who wants to have fun and achieve a good score, however the reality is, that with the AWP, you are not achieving a good score simply by playing well, you are achieving a good score by leeching on the other players. It may be fun for the person who is laming with the AWP, but that fun is achieved on the expensive of all the hardworking players who actually tries to make the game entertaining." Name one pro awper who is lesser skilled? Also awpers are not after a good score by leeching. Very often the awper handles a spot alone. The awper is the early killer and strong holder. What comes to entertaining, a good awper is pretty much the most entertaining player to watch. "Today I was playing two matches of CS:GO, the first map being Office and the second map being Italy. During the game, I was noting a player who did incredibly bad, constantly getting headshotted, while achieving an overwhelming negative score. It should be added that he was mainly using ordinary weapons, like the M4 rifle, etc." cs_maps are so very different. Imagine a T basecamping with the awp on inferno? Not easy to get a high score there. Also, if a less skilled player can rape you only by using awp on a cs_map means you are quite horribru at the game. "However during the next match, he ran out and got killed 3 times in a row, with the sole purpose of saving up for the AWP. Once he bought the AWP he started to camp near the hostages, and from this point, his score started to rise to a point where it ended up being around 27-10, which is hilarious, given the fact that he had an overwhelming negative score during the first match where he was using ordinary guns." Again, cs_maps are different. Why not camp and awp if it works? It's well played if you win, didn't you know? "The favorite argument by the leeching AWP'ers is to tell people to learn how to use smokes. Well the thing is, you can only carry one smoke grenade, and if half of the enemy team is camping with the AWP, then once you are out of smokes, you are basically dead AWP meat." That is just total nonsense. "I wouldn't mind the AWP to be kept in casual matches, but please, do remove it from competitive matches, as it removes a huge chunk of the competitivity from the game." Nope
2013-04-24 14:39
"Name one pro awper who is lesser skilled?" all i can say -fifflaren
2013-04-24 15:58
Well Fiff ain't an awper to the term. He doesn't favour it (never did). Awpers, the real awpers are pure awpers. That's their job and that's what they are good at. Every team needs a good awper. Unlike the original post states, it's not easy. It took a long time for the awp to really shine in cs even when back in beta it always killed with 1 bullet. It was around 1.0/1.1 when players like Bullseye, Ksharp and Vesslan started to show how great you can be with it. And again; great madfraggers are noticed well ofc. But to think the fact there's usually only 1 great awper in a team, 1 out of 5, for some reason the great awper gets fame as much as the maddest fragger
2013-04-24 16:34
#84
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United States criimson 
Couldn't freaking said it better! Have a good one sir
2013-04-24 22:12
Trolling 101
2013-04-24 14:41
:D good one
2013-04-24 14:41
Tahahahaha, 10/10, would read again. Where do CS players go to get their eyes checked? The AWPtician
2013-04-24 15:08
#76
Tunisia edgg 
hahaha, good one
2013-04-24 21:49
how about using flash/smoke?
2013-04-24 15:11
use smoke
2013-04-24 15:12
6/10
2013-04-24 15:14
#29
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Azerbaijan Talley 
"... the first map being Office and the second map being Italy" Haha, stop it.
2013-04-24 15:14
how can you be bothered
2013-04-24 15:15
#31
Switzerland Lugh 
2/10
2013-04-24 15:19
Welcome to Counter Strike. Awp is fine. What you have written is one of reasons why hostage rescue game mode is not competitively viable.
2013-04-24 15:32
#33
Singapore ierd 
0/10. not even points for effort.
2013-04-24 15:30
#34
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Europe midi 
>The AWP needs to be removed from competitive matches >first map being Office and the second map being Italy the whole point of the topic in 2 citations
2013-04-24 15:34
THIS! I laughed soooo much while reading and was going to post the same citations! :D :D LMAO! EDIT: Seriously it's soo funny. First hltv thread that made me truly laugh!
2013-04-24 17:13
Trololo. "Competitive" and "Hostages" together, riiight.
2013-04-24 15:40
Everyone is entitled to his opinion but, assuming you're not a troll, you're one of the biggest retards I've seen here on HLTV.
2013-04-24 15:47
#85
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United States criimson 
HAHA my thoughts exactly!
2013-04-24 22:13
despite of fact that awp should be removed, we have to admit that thanks to snipers like fifflaren game is more balanced.
2013-04-24 15:59
ahahahaha made my day. Don't know are you stipid or just troll. I'm an awper and I cant imagine a competitive game without awp, sry sir but that never gonna happen.
2013-04-24 16:40
+1
2013-04-24 19:23
#42
Reunion JKk 
1/10, but at least you tried.
2013-04-24 17:03
Da fuq did i just read. 0/10.
2013-04-24 17:04
I am simply out of words.. u must be really bad player to have an opinion like that?
2013-04-24 17:07
Valve should remove all weapons, boxing4life
2013-04-24 17:45
#87
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United States criimson 
HAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHA dude you just fuckin made my day GOD if I could I would like your post :) <3
2013-04-24 22:15
<Well the thing is, you can only carry one smoke grenade, and if half of the enemy team is camping with the AWP, then once you are out of smokes, you are basically dead AWP meat> Man, it must really suck when the enemy team has two-and-a-half awpers!
2013-04-24 17:50
quit the game
2013-04-24 18:01
HAHAHAHAHAHAH, No.
2013-04-24 18:08
-awp is like -penis NO
2013-04-24 18:10
I understand that the AWP is a great choice for less skilled players who wants to have fun and achieve a good score, this thing happens only in pub games,only the sniper users use awp in competitive game most of the time
2013-04-24 18:11
Pub scrub playing cs_ matchmaking blogging on hltv... No, just no. Go away.
2013-04-24 18:16
and auto sniper is ok? 0/10
2013-04-24 18:19
never go full retard
2013-04-24 19:00
We should only keep the knife imo
2013-04-24 19:19
wut
2013-04-24 20:53
not eliminate AWP
2013-04-24 21:13
#63
Poland tfg 
tl;dr ale patrzac na komenty daje 1/10 ;____;
2013-04-24 21:23
#64
Netherlands TJEm 
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
2013-04-24 21:23
this is an obvious joke you morons
2013-04-24 21:33
#66
SpawN | 
Iceland vasyl86 
removing awp - bad idea. but it's sad to see when 3 or 4 players from one team uses awp and only one is a regular rifleman.
2013-04-24 21:37
#71
Tunisia edgg 
its sad to see everyone buying an awp without knowing how to use it
2013-04-24 21:45
2much vodka in your blood
2013-04-24 21:38
that's the first time i see a thread than is that retarded. thanks dude, you made my day with your "remove the awp". I laughed so much.
2013-04-24 21:39
#69
Tunisia edgg 
Today I was playing two matches of CS:GO, the first map being Office and the second map being Italy I wouldn't mind the AWP to be kept in casual matches, but please, do remove it from competitive matches *competitive*
2013-04-24 21:43
Kappa
2013-04-24 21:45
arabs.....
2013-04-24 21:46
#78
Tunisia edgg 
em em, hes polish?
2013-04-24 21:54
oh my bad then ^_^__^
2013-04-24 22:43
Wow, you deserve a one week ban, just to reflect aout your brilliant idea.
2013-04-24 21:47
stopped reading after remove AWP
2013-04-24 21:48
if you want a better competitive game maybe you should stop playing hostage rescue on italy and office
2013-04-24 22:00
CS IS DEADED SAUCE IS DEADED GO IS DEADED THE FUTURE IS CS ONLINE 2!!!
2013-04-24 22:05
REMOVE AUTOSNIPERS NOT AWP
2013-04-24 22:10
i will remove it just bec every one buy it like idiots ( on T side )
2013-04-24 22:14
internet: serious business
2013-04-24 22:17
See ya awp.
2013-04-24 22:18
Why has this not been deleted yet?
2013-04-24 22:26
dafuQ did I just read -.-
2013-04-24 22:31
#94
Portugal picc 
I knew this day would come. GO fans, geez...
2013-04-24 22:45
troll post retard op
2013-04-24 23:05
The fact that you actually put this much effort into a troll thread amuses me..
2013-04-25 00:15
agreed,-awp + rpgs and laserbeams kind of shit to make it more realistic and more (ompet3tiv3
2013-04-25 00:38
competitive part of the game, hostage maps. :))))
2013-04-25 01:12
#102
United States tHm 
You just went full retard. Good job.
2013-04-25 01:45
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