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Fxyo's statement regarding the life ban
France fxy0 
I don't understand. When i've accepted my one year ban, Valve certified that my case would be reviewed in 2016 and a good conduct was appropriate. I would like to be clear from the start, I do not contest what i have done but I am judged in the same for 100€ earned and 100'000$. Yes I am judged, banned for life, while no rules were in place. I would have preferred to pay a 200% penalty to maintain my professionnal status. Why should I wait a year to be ban for life. Did Valve actually take a year to decide ? I don't think, especially when penalties are the same regardless the situation or gains. Not a long time ago, a judged asked for Karabatic ( famous French handballer ) a 10'000€ penalty and a three years probation when they've found a bet on a handball match. Did they give him a lifeban, kicked him from his club, his national team or even banned him from any high-level sport ? Not really. We all hope that eSport will grow, so yes such behavior is intolerable but Valve can not be the judge and the jury. Especially when the decision is thoughtless. A non moral act commited in an emerging era which hasn't, in any wayn contradict the previously established rules must be questioned but can't be legally punished. Do a premeditated murder lead to the same penalty as a self defense ? Death is the same for both case but everything depends on the given situation and what's around it. If I go to the supermarket to steal a lollipop, I would not risk the same as a bank robbery right ? The worst is that there was not even a debate, I didn't have the opportunity to explain my self during my ban. Even at the beginning of this year when my case was suppose to be reviewed, nobody from Valve contacted me. I didn't say a word when they banned me for a year, after a 100€ earned via some skins. I've found this punishment correct and the act was intolerable but a few realize what a year is in a professional player's life who stacked everything on the eSport's dream. It was a career mistake. It destroys all my years of investment in the eSsport. All these years, training hard to be able to compete with the best. All these years I played every game and I gave everythingg with honor, with only one desire, i didn't want to disapoint the community. All those years swept away in a second, is this fair ? But I believe that I should have a second chance, especially in the current environement where EVERY organizers follow Valve's words. We are not talking about 4 majors only but every big events and my professionnal player's status. Who can look me in the eye and tell me that he never did anything wrong ? I repeat, even murder do not cause perpetuity. Redemption is a reality, however powerful people decided to be our judge and jury, a revolution in the democracy's history ! I only ask a thing to Valve, do not judge me like a name among others. I would like to be judge compared to my actions and not in a lot, especially after my one year ban and no fault from myself. To every organizers, I really think this sentence of one year is enough and I guess you do aswell. I do not know if you have to blindly follow what Valve says, but I assure you, I'm ready to give everything even if I should be suspended for any misconduct, I'm ready to accept it. And you players, who love eSports, I can only ask for your support, whetever you are pro or would like to become one, WE are the first affected and I hope that, like me, you find my spell unfair. Have a good night everyone, sorry for my english, it was quite difficult to translate everything. I just hope you'll all understand what i tried to explain here. xoxo
2016-01-07 05:58
Dont fuck over the community in the first place
2016-01-07 06:00
#3
France fxy0 
Well, don't you think 1year is enough ?
2016-01-07 06:01
Honestly, in my opinion a two years ban then you can start to compete again and after 3 years you are allowed to compete at majors again. 1 year isn't enough
2016-01-07 06:04
LOL stop pulling shit out of your ass. Your obviously a little kid, so try your best to grow up. ALl these players made a mistake, they were punished fairly and should get a second chance. End of.
2016-01-07 06:30
+1 A year is more than enough. Look at steel and the guys, all of these have been working their ass off for the eSport community. I would give alot to see these guys, and also fxyo and co., to be able to play again - they did something wrong, but have pulled more weight for our beloved game, than most of us.
2016-01-07 09:10
+1 steels videos are great
2016-01-07 17:57
'But they stole from the community'-every hltv user ever
2016-01-08 08:16
some people getting jail time for matchfixing.
2016-04-14 23:45
+1 One year in eSports is like 5 years in a professional sport like football ffs.
2016-01-07 14:03
#801
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Europe GytiZ 
olofmeister also agree that one year isn't enough. So he's little kid also?
2016-01-07 14:28
#809
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United Kingdom Glevin96 
who cares what a pro thinks just becasue he is good at CS? wow olof gets a lot of headshots, i wonder what is views are on immigration idiot
2016-01-07 14:39
+1 seems like most people that want to crucify throwers are either <16 years old or just idiots that have no idea how life outside their little bubble actually works
2016-01-07 15:03
+1
2016-01-07 15:58
A British talking about views on immigration? Dat's funny, mate.
2016-01-07 16:22
A German talking about views on immigration.
2016-01-07 17:08
Well, we're taking them at least :)
2016-01-07 17:20
You're bringing terrorists into your country and you're happy about that?
2016-01-07 17:25
That's exactly what I meant. :D
2016-01-07 17:29
#947
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United Kingdom dezmondo 
if you really believe they are all terrorists then you're as dumb as he thinks.
2016-01-07 19:12
+1
2016-01-07 19:25
+1 from a suicide bomber :ddd
2016-01-07 19:48
I called FBI and they will catch you.
2016-01-08 08:45
:(((((((((((((((
2016-01-08 18:00
+1
2016-04-15 01:27
#861
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Iceland Vrillu 
yes LOL
2016-01-07 15:50
olofmeister also won money while flusha was trigger botting in LAN events, anyone who watches those clips on youtube and tries to argue other wise is a dumb twat. So a year ban for stealing skins that have no real money value according to valve. They get a life-time ban... But someone who cheated and won money doing so at multiple events gets off without even an investigation done by valve? Good justice system imo
2016-01-07 17:54
Valve will never ban flusha. Even if they do catch him. Think about the repercussions from banning a 3 time major winner. There would be an outrage, all of fnatic might go to jail and the integrity of the entire scene would be thrown into question.
2016-01-07 20:22
#1005
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United States Tryx[M] 
the unfortunate truth ^^^^ cant stress this enough
2016-01-07 20:24
they would obv ban him. lance armstrong was THE bicycle posterboy for years and still got punished once the truth came out...
2016-01-07 23:36
you are so fucking stupid
2016-01-08 00:51
Shut up, faggot
2016-01-07 15:25
+1. why the fuck are all these retard kids on hltv so incompassionate
2016-03-09 13:52
they lost a computer game get over your pixels
2016-01-07 06:33
#348
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Sweden jackir 
millions of dollars
2016-01-07 09:28
computer game skins :D
2016-01-07 09:30
#386
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Sweden jackir 
prize money*
2016-01-07 10:06
Millions of Dollars in prize money? What?
2016-01-07 20:24
Millions of Dollars in prize money? What?
2016-01-07 20:40
Millions of Dollars in prize money? What?
2016-01-08 07:06
#519
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Portugal Zedonp 
Not only because you know there are other betting sites too. Some with real money that you invest on them. I don't think 1 year is enough for throwing a game for money. If he needed money he could get a job or have done more streams. Don't come here saying there were only skins involved because thats not true.
2016-01-07 11:57
they werent using those sites though if I read good, they only got the bots to give them skins
2016-01-07 11:57
#530
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Portugal Zedonp 
Yeah but what about the ones that lost them because of his throw? Does that not count too? IMO it does. If he wants to be a pro he has to behave like a pro. You know fox for example has had a job his hole carreer before joining G2? Yeah because these rich kids that don't even need the money get to throw games and make the game look bad for everyone else. I stopped betting on online matchs completly once these throw stories came out because i just can't belive that the game will be played by the rules. They don't get to have a light penalty because they behaved good all year. Do you still belive in santa my frend?
2016-01-07 12:02
It doesnt really count because if youre betting on computer games you shouldnt expect it to be serious, its like betting on cock fights
2016-01-07 12:02
#542
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Portugal Zedonp 
hey cock fight is a serious sport xD. Besides betting on animals that might not even want to fight equalst "pro players" playing the game they are supposed too seriously. They make much enphasis on being pro players well pros don't throw games. If he loved the game so much, if they want to become the best pros he should have thought about doing something to hurt the game and its fans
2016-01-07 12:07
eh, I have a hard time understanding people on heres arguments because I just cant see the computer game as a " sport "
2016-01-07 12:12
#563
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Portugal Zedonp 
yeah but it is right now. And valve wants it to be as serious as possible. You know that by now teams/players are getting contracts and sponsors put money in the esports. We are talking about loads and loads of money every year. These guys wanted to be pros, they wanted a carrer but they throw games for money and valve wants to make an example out of them. For me csgo is still a game but for others is their job and their way of life and you just have to accept it somehow.
2016-01-07 12:17
it is computer game :D people put money it in for the money that comes back out from lots of children wasting their time, I do not appreciate it for the world
2016-01-07 12:19
#571
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Portugal Zedonp 
man but its a computer game played at a professional level. Isn't football jsut a game or hockey too. You can play for fun but there are people that make a career out of it. Aren't there many kids wasting their time and money and they never arrive at the pro level? Its not the same thing but somehow it is the same thing.
2016-01-07 12:21
football and hockey at least are only played with real people and promote athetlic healthy I hope for these kids to stop wasting so much time that will never be pro :D and for pros to get some sort of usable work skill for the future
2016-01-07 12:22
#586
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Portugal Zedonp 
Many do. Many have degrees. like in football where your career only goes some years and you need to prepare for the future. I played on a hockey team, i played football and even some swimming competitions. Even tho i have a few titles on them i never made pro. I play cs since 1.6 and never made it pro either. I'm trying to finish my degree now and belive me if i got the right team and a sponsor i would jump right in the pro scene. "Choose a job you love, and you won't have to work a single day in you life"-Confucios Thats the dream.
2016-01-07 12:27
#588
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Portugal Zedonp 
sry for the biggest posts xD
2016-01-07 12:28
is chess a sport to you?
2016-01-07 12:45
no but it is an interesting game
2016-01-07 12:45
haha ok no wonder after all...all your reactions show your logical and mental retardation but i mean you are going to develop with age (hopefully) but it does not take too much philosophy reading to realise the basic logical assumptions and operations which are to be made are essential to think rightfully in some situations such as this rather sensitive one of fxy0's or if something was a sport or not
2016-01-07 12:51
I think you are the one who hopefully will mature with age and realize it is a computer game and all he did was lose a computer game and accept an offer from a trade (csgl bot)
2016-01-07 12:53
"it is a computer game" and he "lost a computer game"? So that is like saying a musical virtuoso has his/her favourite musical instrument and he/she loses it then well "it was just a violin" but another pff man... fxy0's instrument was CSGO and he cant replace it it is perhaps even more unreplaceable than a violin +your argumentation +jurisdictional argumentation choose one
2016-01-07 12:58
no your use a meaning not same, I say "lose match" not "lost match" like not found it he can still play CSGO but music is actually nice to listen to all he does is play computer game
2016-01-07 12:59
ye really funny u got rekt im off see ya
2016-01-07 13:09
no arguments :DDD haha u got rekt im out! it is u who got rekt
2016-01-07 13:09
gr8 b8 m8
2016-01-07 13:03
kek. Footbal is just a game! Just people kicking the ball! Basketball is just a game! Some kids throwing the ball around! I cant see this as a serious sport. And also what? Im pretty sure cs is played from real people too LOL.
2016-01-07 12:24
its with virtual kids and has no physical activity, very little skill at that too, just wasting time, ye basketball is dogshit but you can play football with basically no materials but a ball, CS you need a specific program you have to buy on a computer cant really call it a sport and italian calling me a third worlder AHAHAHAHA
2016-01-07 12:35
Chess is considered a sport too. And it has less physical activity than playing csgo ROFL! Both cs and football are just games. Why would you hype football and not cs? And btw cs is not a sport but e-sports. You sound really mad because you probably fail in both irl games and in internet games. NT tho thirdworlder. HF fucking goats at nepal ( ????)
2016-01-07 13:17
Nepal is actually very rich country unlike shitaly
2016-01-07 13:18
LOL! > Nepal >Rich Pick one goat fucker
2016-01-07 13:20
Do you rly think you are better than the others bcoz you live in a 'better' country? haha, fascist
2016-01-07 16:46
i got your back Mario, Italy>Nepal any day of the week.
2016-01-08 00:52
kek
2016-01-08 07:16
Rekt
2016-01-07 15:55
What about the Italian football scandal in 2006? (Teams had been in contact with match officials) Juventus was relegated from Serie A to Serie B and deducted 30 points at the start of the season for match-fixing. The police was involved and all that, but nothing more happened. They weren't excluded by the Italian football association or anything, so they can still compete in all the leagues, cups and everything. Real sports> eSports. Kinda shows that Valve are some incompetent dicks.
2016-01-07 12:55
#927
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Portugal Zedonp 
Well you know real sports have sindicates and are tied to the real world. The fact is csgo is owned by valve so they are the judges and the jurys and altho i think its not the correct way to do things, thats how valve does it.
2016-01-07 18:12
Of course it counts, but u cant ban a man for his life. As Lot of people say, even murder dont go to prison for ever
2016-01-07 12:59
#925
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Portugal Zedonp 
I never said he should be banned for life. I dont think 1 year is enough tho.
2016-01-07 18:08
me too, 2 or 3 years should be ok
2016-01-07 19:09
you're a fucking moron if you think that skins have no real life money value, it's so easy to convert skins into money in your bank account but here you are laughing at "pixels"
2016-01-07 13:13
hmm if you value your pixels you should not send them to CSGL bot then ;)
2016-01-07 13:13
and again little thirdworld fag. Ive cashed out at least 4k this year from bets and gambling. Tell me more about how skins have no rl value
2016-01-07 13:19
+1
2016-01-07 13:35
+1
2016-01-07 15:00
How do a player buy skins? Money
2016-01-07 20:01
and how do a player get scammed his skins? send his skins on trade offer with no return like everyone who send skin to a CSGL bot, you are not stealing anythihng of money when they donate it to you LOL
2016-01-07 23:15
Bad b8
2016-01-08 03:17
not even bait, CSGL is not official in any way so you cant consider it matchfixing when theres no real betting
2016-01-08 03:18
It's ok m8 i don't h8 a m8 4 b8
2016-01-08 03:23
Small loan of a million dollars?
2016-01-08 09:24
You're simply retarded m8
2016-01-07 10:59
expected from nepal
2016-01-07 20:20
1 year is more than enough.
2016-01-07 11:35
this is more than enough.. to be honest, they are not cheaters.. they throw a match, ok, but if valve have said: ''we give u a second chance, BUT DONT FUCK UP AGAIN OR NEXT TIME WILL BE FOREVER'' they've never throwed a match again, why? because they aren't dumb.. so 1 year is more than enough.. but valve dont know how to deal with competitive, thats why riot, blizzard and other game developers are way better than valve.. u make a statement saying: ''we will unban these guys but next time this will be forever..'' no ones will throw again..
2016-01-07 13:36
1 year is already WAY ENOUGH.
2016-01-07 13:54
and you are?
2016-01-07 14:02
hahahaa and after 4 years you can gain respect again:D and in 5 years you can start a family LMAOOOOOxDDDDd
2016-01-07 14:31
well its a good thing you dont make any rules because you're clueless as fuck
2016-01-07 16:34
Holy shit you are clueless.
2016-01-07 20:28
1 year is a long time in an esports career
2016-01-08 04:19
It's not about if it's enough or not. If you cared about your career and your future in the esports, you would't do something like that, right? I guess we both have different opinions about the situation, because we are both watching it from a different angles. It doesn't matter if it's 100 euro, or 100000. I was literally one of your fans, but obv you didn't deserve that. I'm 50/50 about it... I think that all of you should be unbanned because you obv put in a lot of effort, time, nervous and a lot of different things that no one here is going to understand, because the most of the hltv users are trolls and 90% of the people wont even read your topic, anyway... But at the same time I want all of you to stay banned, because it's not correct to literally scam your fans and the fans of the team (org) you've had. I'm not trying to be douchebag, but the facts talk. I want to see you back, because you are really good player and I think you can bring a lot of freshness to the pro scene. I think soon or later, valve will understand the situation and the fact that they disappointed a lot of their users and fans of csgo with their decision about those bans. It's not fair for me cheaters to be able to compete again and you don't...
2016-01-07 06:15
#39
France fxy0 
When i'm talking about the 100/100000$ story, i'm just saying that i was banned a whole year and i've accepted it, that was my punishement for what I did. I apologied many times to my fans, and that was huge mistake. But I do not agree with this lifeban story. One year was enough ... I stayed a year aside, thinking about everything and how good i will be to my fans and mates when my ban will finish, to change the old fxy0, i was counting days, one by one to learn that, after a year, they changed it.
2016-01-07 06:20
Do you know even if valve unbans you, it would be REALLY FUCKING HARD to continue your career from the place you fucked up? You have to deal with a lot of fucking hate... and it's not easy, believe me. And it's not only that, but I have no time to type right now, cuz I have to go for work.
2016-01-07 06:23
#49
France fxy0 
I was ready to do anything, change myself and be the best model a fan could except after my year aside the pro scene. GL at work, i'm still trying to bring back mine aha ^^
2016-01-07 06:24
Thanks... GL to you as well. You will need it.
2016-01-07 06:28
Yea, I was playing couple of faceit matches with you, you are really nice guy, not cocky like rest of 'pros' really enjoyed playing with you:)) #freefxy0
2016-01-07 06:56
I think you still don't realize how bad what you've done is wrong for esport. You lost a match on purpose and the first thing you're talking about is what you earned from it. Nobody cares about your 100$, purposely losing a match is the worst you can do for a growing scene like esport and Valve had to set an example from you. If you love esport, please, i beg you, leave it.
2016-01-07 13:28
copy and pasting because i'd really like to see all the csgo personalities stand up and do something against what they have said on their twitters is too harsh just replying to a random comment of yours but Have you considered trying to talk with the ex-iBP players aswell on this? You guys could probably get a lot of community support going, if you looked at the compilation of tweets most csgo personalities, they all were in favor of something not permanent, personally i think missing one more major is more than enough punishment already. But if say you got together with some CSGO personalities who supported you and you getting unbanned in some time rather than never, you could easily fight this, players have HUGE power they just don't realize, the only reason people watch big matches is because of the players and competition and if they aren't happy thats bad for valve
2016-01-07 15:35
Start streaming and gaining a fan base :) Goodluck getting unbanned mate :)
2016-01-07 20:22
swap games, i hear rainbow 6 siege could have a decent esport scene in the future :p
2016-01-08 07:48
Not really. He is one of the best (if not the best) of French players. I'm almost sure that Titan would like to add him.
2016-01-07 13:12
tbh nobody really hates him so far.
2016-01-07 13:55
You are talking about how dedicated you are to the game, community, your carrier. But apparently not more dedicated then to throw it away for 100 euros. I can see why Valve are using these lifetime bans to make sure people will stop doing moraly bad things to others. And the reason why banned people are crying out now is because the game is getting bigger and bigger and they dont get a piece of the pie now. Back in 1.6 and even before, there was alot of people cheating one way or another and no one did anything to stop it. Now its possible to cheat both ingame and outside the game but finally Valve does something against it. "buh hu" to the banned players, but its only a handfull that are gone and in a year or so new talents will rise and take there places and life goes on and you will not be missed.
2016-01-07 11:34
So you think that this example will get ppl not to throw? i think ppl will do it even if they didn't received the ban. did ur dad beat u whit a belt? & do you want higher authority to pat you on the back for this fine ethics. This penalty IS WAAAAAY over the line. Takin someone's job away just becouse they took alitle bit from this shitty betting community. it was a mistake, and folx do grow from stupid mistakes, that how the world works.
2016-01-07 11:42
No thats not what i think. Ppl can throw all they want, but then to cry afterwards on how unfair life is when they get caught, can only make me laugh. And no i dont need a pat on the back, and its not fine ethics just normal dicentsy not to f*** over the community who gives u the chance to make a living from a hobby. And now u mention taking jobs away, if your lucky enough to get your hobby as a job and u throw it away then good job. If you work for a store and get caught stealing u get fired and dont get your job back after getting out of jail. He can go play other video games now, all he wants! Great! :)
2016-01-07 11:52
I may not agree whit you, but well put.
2016-01-07 12:00
Its also allright not to agree, i can also agree at some of your points. And that a lifetime ban for taking some skins from a computer game sounds rediculus. But if you put it into a bigger picture. Look at all the scandals that are comming into the light in football and fifa as an example. With match fixing, buying out votes for world cups and so on. If you just let it slip the first time it will just keep rolling. I know football and CS:GO arent the same thing. But ppl are talking about just giving the players Fine's to pay. Thats what they do in football and that doesnt do shit. Its a grab in wallet for people and they have forgotten what they did 2 hours later. If Valve or someone else isnt taking control of the problems here in the beginning of cs:go it will just accelerate.
2016-01-07 12:07
#614
Netherlands :'( 
yo if u steal shit in real life. like skins are REAL money if u sell em. u barely get jobs aswell. atleast not the best jobs ;) even if u say 10000000 times sorry i changed.
2016-01-07 12:43
How would he have known that he gets a lifetime ban for that? There were no rules set for the case.
2016-01-07 11:56
So as long as you dont know the penalty its okay to steal and cheat?
2016-01-07 12:00
It's not okay, but it does not deserve a lifetime ban.
2016-01-07 12:12
Well he can still play the game all that he wants. Just not compete in the same way. I dont see the problem. Why should we have people who are cheating in one way or another have the chance to also get salaries, price money, trophies etc.? There are millions who play this game without f***ing people over and cheating, give them a chance instead. Rising stars like the ones who got banned, for them it wasnt enough with just getting salaries, sponsors and the chance to compete at the highest level. Why should they still get the chance then?
2016-01-07 12:26
What do you think of his comparison to Karabatic's case then? Doesn't it make it seem unfair to you?
2016-01-07 13:02
I find the Karabatic case a good argument on the surface. But not when i go i trough step by step. As i said in a earlier post, sport athletes get away with small fines and a slap the wrist all the time. Yes 10k sounds like alot, but not if you are the best handball player in the world (which Karabatic was at some point) With big personal sponsors like either nike or adidas in your back. And the 3 year probation is the big problem. The Handball association doesnt have the balls (no phun intended) to ban a profile like Karabatic for something like this. Thats the same association that lets Quatar host a world cup and buy themselves a team to present there country. A team of old super stars with no background to quatar exept for the tons of money. So i see the Karabatic argument as a have "corrupt" case, that fxy0 tries to use to help him out. :)
2016-01-07 13:25
#617
Netherlands :'( 
try stealing anything @ ur job see if ur boss gets u back :)
2016-01-07 12:44
stealing is illegal in most countries
2016-01-07 12:48
#633
Netherlands :'( 
ye and do u still get good jobs after u stole something :P?
2016-01-07 12:48
maybe depends on the job but, probably no fxy0 didnt really steal anything though :D
2016-01-07 12:49
#639
Netherlands :'( 
skins.
2016-01-07 12:50
not really, the CSGL bot just sent them an offer and they accepted it
2016-01-07 12:51
#642
Netherlands :'( 
ye he accepted. his mistake ;P
2016-01-07 12:52
exactly :)
2016-01-07 13:16
Euhm if football had no rules about touching the ball with hand would it be legal?
2016-01-07 13:48
Do you even read the arguments? We are talking about penalties not rules. They didnt know the penalties for cheating, they allways knew it was against the rules. Dont join an argument if u dont know what its about :)
2016-01-07 13:53
#965
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Germany DankyD 
Yes, of course. Like when they changed the Offside rules a century ago, before they changed it it was legal!
2016-01-07 19:25
I got to play against you in MM thrice in a row a couple of months ago, and you were just horrible, acting like a spoiled brat. How bout you grow up first and then try to get back on the horse.
2016-01-07 12:24
copy and pasting because i'd really like to see all the csgo personalities stand up and do something against what they have said on their twitters is too harsh just replying to a random comment of yours but Have you considered trying to talk with the ex-iBP players aswell on this? You guys could probably get a lot of community support going, if you looked at the compilation of tweets most csgo personalities, they all were in favor of something not permanent, personally i think missing one more major is more than enough punishment already. But if say you got together with some CSGO personalities who supported you and you getting unbanned in some time rather than never, you could easily fight this, players have HUGE power they just don't realize, the only reason people watch big matches is because of the players and competition and if they aren't happy thats bad for valve
2016-01-07 15:32
#53
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Iceland Iceland 
Do you think 1 year is enough after you stole money of your fans???
2016-01-07 06:27
it wasnt his fans skins anymore after they send them to CSGL bot :D the dude lost a computer game
2016-01-07 06:36
#84
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Iceland Iceland 
Computer game or not its still real money..... Only reason I'm not gonna shit over you right now is cus it looks like your a moderator and I dont want another ban.
2016-01-07 06:38
He is just VIP, please shit him <3
2016-01-07 08:15
If it's 'just a computer game' who cares if he doesn't get unbanned right?
2016-01-07 11:37
its a job...
2016-01-07 11:44
#623
Netherlands :'( 
then he shouldnt be mad about the ban right he can still play the same computer game just not for money anymore :)
2016-01-07 12:45
yeah I dont think he should be mad, he has a lot more free time to go do something actually useful :D
2016-01-07 12:46
#632
Netherlands :'( 
and its fair that its forever.
2016-01-07 12:48
well I dont think its "fair" but I dont think he should be mad at least
2016-01-07 12:48
#649
Netherlands :'( 
do u know if they google ur name if u look for a job in france :P?
2016-01-07 12:55
I do not know but I guess they would
2016-01-07 12:55
#652
Netherlands :'( 
they gonna find out he stole online skins/money oh no. pls
2016-01-07 12:56
I dont think an employer would consider losing a computer game stealing :D
2016-01-07 12:56
#655
Netherlands :'( 
they dont look into it that closely :p all they see is the bad stuff not the good stuff :p
2016-01-07 12:57
its not really bad stuff though xD
2016-01-07 12:58
#659
Netherlands :'( 
banned for life cuz of stealing skins! by some big ass company is a bit bad stuff pls. lets make him a bit scared oke
2016-01-07 12:59
No one stole anything, when you gamble you take the risk of losing.
2016-01-07 06:42
lel
2016-01-07 08:16
#627
Netherlands :'( 
u should open a casino where ppl can never win :)
2016-01-07 12:46
I've played this game for probably close to 15 years (1.5, 1.6, and now CS:GO.) What you did was despicable, it was wrong, and it was down right inexcusable. Thieves get out of jail every day, they don't get locked away for years......so do I think you deserve to be banned for life? Absolutely not. Why did Virtus Pro get away with what they did without even a negative action towards them? I know what they did, I know what you and the other guys did. I understand it was completely different but at the same time, they tried to manipulate the system and gain from the community (which in essence was what you and the iBuyPower guys did. Valve never should have allowed skins to be gambled in the first place, they should of sat rules in place if they were ok with the gambling. My advice to you, grab all the pro players who have your back, get a lawyer, and fight to the end my man! Only a few people in life never deserve a second chance, and you being a video game match-fixer is not one of those people. I hardly post here because this site is filled with under-age trolls who have nothing better to do......so if you respond to this message thinking you are going to get me rowdy, then you may not want to waste your time!!! Good day people!
2016-01-07 06:31
#75
France fxy0 
Amen !
2016-01-07 06:35
good luck man, you'll need it. Hope you the best to smash some more heads around cs
2016-01-07 08:16
Gl:)
2016-01-07 09:58
just replying to a random comment of yours but Have you considered trying to talk with the ex-iBP players aswell on this? You guys could probably get a lot of community support going, if you looked at the compilation of tweets most csgo personalities, they all were in favor of something not permanent, personally i think missing one more major is more than enough punishment already. But if say you got together with some CSGO personalities who supported you and you getting unbanned in some time rather than never, you could easily fight this, players have HUGE power they just don't realize, the only reason people watch big matches is because of the players and competition and if they aren't happy thats bad for valve
2016-01-07 15:09
Valve should never have made skins in the first place tbqh
2016-01-07 06:37
I agree. Counter Strike was doing quite alright with out them for years.
2016-01-07 06:38
Do you really think they care ? The moment you typed this they earned 2 miljon only on skins and boxes if you know what i mean . Those majors get hosted by your/our money , on the majors itself that sticker money is fucking sick . Valve dont give a fuck , its the people that need to stand up + the players themselves or else this kind of stuff aint getting sorted . Skins are fucking the game yes but they also provide 4 majors, so you have the pros they dont gonna argue here its their prize money so the ones who can really make a difference are WE the community cause they need us . So if we really want this to stop the community needs to step in big but that aint gonna happen .
2016-01-07 19:19
#1016
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United States Tryx[M] 
if skins provided for majors we wouldn't have 7 majors in a row with a 250k prize pool bro
2016-01-07 20:33
Dude stfu . Read back and mayb then you think wtf did i wrote .
2016-01-07 20:35
#1021
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United States Tryx[M] 
"mayb then you think wtf did i wrote" im sorry what
2016-01-07 20:36
there are 4 events provided by valve thats called a major . Do you understand ? Those majors get provided by US the users , still with me ? You buy keys, sell or buy boxes or weapons that money goes to fucking majors . That money is so much money so valve can host 4 majors of our money , still here ? Besides that they earn a shit ton on sticker money on the major itself . So captain wanker wanna say something ?
2016-01-07 20:41
#1028
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United States Tryx[M] 
I'll analyze your statement. "There are 4 events provided by valve thats called a major." 3 majors a year, but whatever, that doesnt matter. "Those majors get provided by US the users" That's false. Originally I thought you meant the skin money went towards the prize pool, but I see what you mean now. You meant that the money went towards hosting the tournament itself, which is false. ESL or Dreamhack pays all the expenses to host the tournament, maybe with a little help from valve but I don't believe thats the case. All valve does is support the tournament by giving it the "major" status and featuring all its shit within the csgo client.
2016-01-07 20:45
You are totally wrong mate :) I don`t even argue anymore. You know jack shit :( And btw i say that a % of everything goes to the prize pool . That`s why valve sponsors the prize money. And dont tell me otherwise cause you clearly dont know anything about this .
2016-01-07 20:50
#1031
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United States Tryx[M] 
you didn't say shit about a percentage of skin money going to any prize pool. whatever, not arguing with a retard anymore
2016-01-07 20:52
dude dont you get that ? I mentioned that is so much money that valve can host events of it fucknewb L2R to stupid for his own good . Valve is clearly a company that earns alot more then 250 K only on csgo stupid you.
2016-01-07 20:54
#1033
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United States Tryx[M] 
Its hard to "learn to read" that broken of english.
2016-01-07 20:55
uhu or just hard to understand with that kind of brain ?calling 7 majors first . Then you need to google how many majors for real. Do you know how we call that ? plain stupid.
2016-01-07 20:56
#1039
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United States Tryx[M] 
hard to bait someone who knows how to recognize it, stay mad lmfao
2016-01-07 20:58
hahahahaha nerd hahahaha yes trow the bait card XD. you are just fucking terrible stupid 7777777 majorsssssss
2016-01-07 21:00
#85
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Iceland Iceland 
Valve is a greedy company they just care about money not about the game itself.
2016-01-07 06:40
Valve is a company I fixed your post
2016-01-07 07:04
indeed read 1 above you.
2016-01-07 19:22
+1
2016-01-07 11:43
the ban is not about gaining from the community . the ban was about throwing the match
2016-01-07 11:07
#1019
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United States Tryx[M] 
errrr i don't think so. Who the fuck would ever throw a match without gaining anything from it? It's only damaging yourself, its when you accept skins from it, damaging the community.
2016-01-07 20:35
you are right its linked together . but the problem is that most people only see the skin part and forget about the real reason they got banned.
2016-01-08 16:10
+1
2016-01-07 11:44
absolutely true, valve did not create rules / laws regarding match fixing. therefore the ban for life isnt right, thats a totalitarist decision, based on no rules. valve should be an intern at North Korea's government stop valve dictatorship!
2016-01-07 12:55
I agree. They shouldn't give up, it was wrong, yes. But in the end, there was no ruleset and skins have actually no value, right? All this betting done, is actually illegal. Valve has disgusting double standards, fuck them...
2016-01-07 13:24
#90
NAF | 
Japan soneFILER 
why are you trying to reason with hltv? go to reddit if you want to use your brain
2016-01-07 06:42
you shouldnt reply to these fools man. they dont matter and you cant change their views. Your statement puts it perfectly. A lot of people are behind you guys and a lot of pros support it.
2016-01-07 06:53
It clearly shows, how broken cs community is. Where was your brain, when you decided to fix a match? To me, now you look as that guy FODDER, trying to apology in his every post. Valve is dumb as well. Electronic sports is growing, but not that drastically. It is not even close to other sports, like soccer, basketball etc., but they're just handing bans one to another like fuck it. First thing they should care about is banning pro "mouse lifters", instead of droping lifetime bans to every player, who fixed a match. That's just dumb. p.s. i think you should not be banned for life, but at least for few more years. cheers
2016-01-07 07:22
+1. Cheating at top level is a much bigger problem.
2016-01-07 12:02
nope you fucked us we fuck u ez
2016-01-07 07:37
You stole skins from your fans. The fans who trusted you to win. Idk about some french laws, but in cricket , people go to jail for match fixing.
2016-01-07 08:19
#332
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Poland Kreyvex 
Feel sad for you man. But loosing trust is more easy then excialy getting it back. They shouldnt take it like this but yeah... thats just fuckt up
2016-01-07 09:15
Sorry fxy0. Zero tolerance,you will be missed
2016-01-07 09:18
1 year is enough. :) would love to see you back :)
2016-01-07 09:43
#378
fnx | 
Portugal lovessd 
you're a good player just like swag i d like to see a 200K $ fine possibility to set you free because the rules weren't set to lifeban when you got your ban
2016-01-07 09:56
Who would pay that fine? Obviously fxy0 doesnt have that much money at all, and it would take years and years and years for him to be able to pay that.
2016-01-07 12:04
#605
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Portugal Zedonp 
well lifeban is longer imo. There will always be a price you have to pay for your actions.
2016-01-07 12:36
If your best friend had stolen money from you could you forgive him?
2016-01-07 13:50
Nobody does, you knew what you do, toxic moron. If you woudlnt push GMX away from the team, he wouldn't tell. But as he did it, it's good for the community and will be a lesson to some germans like current ttc and KILLERFISH. You did shit, you got punished by good Valve and now do what you want but not touch counter-strike. Get the fuck out, scrub.
2016-01-07 10:01
you fucked your own fans, you threw knowing damn well they would support you and bet on your team to win you took your own fans skins in a sleezy deal, and honestly you got off lightly you make mention of a french handballer who was given 3 years probation, that was before new french articles that handle match-fixing more strictly articles in N2012-158 amended to code 445, dictates that you may have faced up to 5 years in prison with up to a 75,000EUR fine for betting related match fixing. these articles were ratified in 2012, as a result of the karabatic scandal. these are on top of whatever punishment the league feels necessary and in the case if it was an international match you might have faced euro/interpol investigation and punishment under international law under UNCTOC and UNCAC. you are honestly a piece of trash for thinking "there were no rules against fixing", when there are international and national laws against it in almost every civilized country. ignorance does not abstain you from the law and you are lucky to get off as lightly as you did with just a permaban from valve events good riddance
2016-01-07 10:18
I never talked about my year ban when Valve banned me. I've accepted it when they've told me they would review my case after a year. So I stay quiet, had a lot of regrets about the situation and I've waited a year to learn that now, after my punishment of one year, i have a lifetime ban.
2016-01-07 10:22
Just stop replying to those retards that lost their skins and are mad4life about it . GL
2016-01-07 11:15
- no repentance - stupid justifaction & bad comparisons - in your eyes, you are the victim (lol) it doesnt matter how much you stole, you are scum.
2016-01-07 10:53
..."while no rules were in place." So because there are no rules it is right to do? This argument is so wrong in it self... Stop crying out loud and carry on with your life.
2016-01-07 11:04
I think you should never be returned to professinal gaming, but forgiven for what you did and just start playing normal and put it behind. But i dont think you can be the same again
2016-01-07 11:22
stfu you r stupid fxyo just stfu bot and take your bann bye bye retard fXYO
2016-01-07 12:17
well, gimme back what i lost (do the same with the other ppl) and i'll forget that you guys threw a game. you'll have to convince valve that ppl who lost money dont care anymore about u
2016-01-07 12:38
1year is more then enough? just the same as Swag, Steel, ... VALVE!!!! UNBAN THIS GUYS.. THE PUNISHMENT IS TO HARD!!!
2016-01-07 12:59
#766
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United States L0MAA 
i get the feeling that valve wanted to unban certian players like swag and most of the french players but it would be "unfair" andthe players that didnt get unbanned would bitch and moan because of the followings that they have on twitch and youtube. So valve just thought it would be better to just ban them all for life, just to keep certain players out, which i think is even more unfair.
2016-01-07 13:57
My personal opinion is irrelevant, since Valve has the authority to enforce this decision. And I'm sure it wasn't personal, they took it like a company, with money and image in mind, weighting what they can gain and lose from this. Personally I think they want to make an example out of you guys, so that they don't have to do such things in the near future. Now at the same time, as a company they might revisit their choice of words later...but atm it seems it's perma, and I'm still amazed ppl did this kind of stuff for modicum sums of virtual money or skins. Unfortunately some ppl will learn via fear (of perma ban) when not from sportsmanship.
2016-01-07 14:03
copy and pasting because i'd really like to see all the csgo personalities stand up and do something against what they have said on their twitters is too harsh just replying to a random comment of yours but Have you considered trying to talk with the ex-iBP players aswell on this? You guys could probably get a lot of community support going, if you looked at the compilation of tweets most csgo personalities, they all were in favor of something not permanent, personally i think missing one more major is more than enough punishment already. But if say you got together with some CSGO personalities who supported you and you getting unbanned in some time rather than never, you could easily fight this, players have HUGE power they just don't realize, the only reason people watch big matches is because of the players and competition and if they aren't happy thats bad for valve
2016-01-07 15:32
2 or 3 years ban would be harsh enough. Valve logic is same as that behind the three strikes law, they replace thought with heavy handiness as its alot easier then sifting through the actions of idiots. You were an idiot to do what you did and unfortunately so is the response by Valve
2016-01-07 16:20
I personally dont think 1 year is enough, no matter if its 10 dollars or 10k, ofc they should make different penalties for the different ammount you stole, but you brought the "sport" in discgrace, so i feel that you should stfu and accept your punishment. You are nothing but a thief and you (still) deserve to be banned.
2016-01-07 17:53
#922
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Sweden wyv0 
definitely is
2016-01-07 17:55
yes i think so! i think valve just dont care about csgo, they love dota2 to mutch..
2016-01-07 18:26
hahaha get rekt you fucking french faggot
2016-01-07 20:23
1 Year is enough imo, but I don't think that what you did could be forgiven. Everyone does deserve a second chance, however.
2016-01-07 20:24
Even banned for life isn't enough.
2016-01-07 20:44
If we should compare Esports to any other sport a permanent ban is total retarded. If you matchfix in other sports you would be served a "ban" for like 3-8 months. You guys have dedicated your life to cs:go - Its your passion! I dont get why you dont even have the chance to make a deal with Valve. VP did kinda the same - It was the same thoughts they did when they dropped the bet on themselves. They wanted free skins - an extra cash.
2016-01-07 08:06
When you mess up with the financial part in life..The punishment is hard..and you should know that.. You can't compare them to murder or rapes..Law is not fair..But...
2016-01-07 08:06
for my sake, the community can go fuck it self, at least most of you retarded modderfuckers.
2016-01-07 11:30
"community"
2016-01-07 15:51
I agree with fxyo i mean no fucking rules ! NO RULES how can they punish them for their own mistakes lool
2016-01-07 18:17
pray for fxy0
2016-03-09 13:44
gooby says koh
2016-01-07 06:01
#4
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Italy kalmahhh 
[*]
2016-01-07 06:02
#5
Iceland paeja 
fuck off, no one cares
2016-01-07 06:04
Man stfu isbear.
2016-01-07 11:30
As a French American I agree with your statement 100% The bans are ridiculously unfair. Valve will realize the mistake they made soon enough and the bans will be lifted but until then its a dark time for you guys. Keep your head up man
2016-01-07 06:06
#48
Australia Mtee 
i wish man, this is a disturbing trend for valve.
2016-01-07 06:24
#56
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Iceland Iceland 
Noo from how valve acts they will likely realise this was a shit decision like every decision they make and they wont have the balls to admit it so they will be banned for the rest of their lifes.
2016-01-07 06:28
+1 exactly this. Its a long shot, but if they were able to revert the rifle nerfs, lets hope for the best on this stupid decision as well.
2016-01-07 06:38
yes, lets :) some of us need to stay positive and keep the flame burning to spotlight this injustice.
2016-01-07 09:04
yeah but what worries me more is that they said that they will be juding and testing updates so they won't be mistaken ( ie: there will be no roll backs or whatever they call it ) hopefully that doesn't apply on bans
2016-01-07 19:51
As a French American lol, wtf does it have to do with anything.
2016-01-07 07:21
something something azk french stars
2016-01-07 07:25
Letting people know my opinion is most likely biased since those were the 2 nationalities of the team.
2016-01-07 07:49
#305
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Greece hekzy 
HE IS AZK
2016-01-07 08:54
It's a way that reddit autists introduce themselves to strangers "as a (insert etchnicity/occupation)"
2016-01-07 09:02
lol please dont say Im a redditor wookiebookie
2016-01-07 11:22
dont act like one then dumb cunt
2016-01-07 14:24
you seem upset man cheer up
2016-01-08 06:18
well i agree with his statement too. woulda been so fucking easy for valve to say ok: these two cases are gonna be dealt with, 1 year bans each, but you see now how easily we can track skins and that we will find out about match throwing and the new rule in place is: if u do throw a game for skins/money, u will be perma banned from this point onwards. but: its absolutely fucking deluded by u to really assume theyre gonna change it XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD not in a million fucking years will this crappy company and their autistic fucks they call employees revert this decision. that would make them look even more ridiculous than they already look in the eyes of anyone that has a brain.
2016-01-07 07:56
"I didn't have the opportunity to explain my self during my ban" only part I don't understand Valve didn't do
2016-01-07 06:06
i dont understand this toddler logic of "say sorry" or "explain yourself" USA USA USA
2016-01-07 09:57
Are you fucking brain dead? I was saying why they didn't let them speak about their bans, why should they be unbanned, why they did it, what lead them on or even thought about it to begin with. Fucking stupid Aussie.
2016-01-07 12:06
Burger calling people stupid axaxaxaxaxaxax
2016-08-01 13:46
The guy who throwed in dota 2 firstly was banned for life, then valve changed the ban for only one year and now he is playing in a team, this shit is fucking unfair
2016-01-07 06:07
Valve never touched him, he was banned by star ladder guys for 1 year. Then later reduced to 6 months It's amazing how valve turned a blind eye
2016-01-07 06:43
And he even got real money from that, not some pixels.
2016-01-07 07:14
#307
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Greece hekzy 
Maybe because Valve only care about their horrible F2p crap called Dota2.
2016-01-07 08:55
#1022
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United States Tryx[M] 
Defense of the autists 2
2016-01-07 20:39
dota 2 key words
2016-01-07 18:09
#961
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North America Medusza 
Valve doesn't give a shit about csgo look at how broken the game is after every update. Look at how little they do for the pro scene. The prize pools are smaller they make asinine rules because they're fucking idiots and they add game breaking nerds buffs and weapons to the game on a regular basis. Valve are fucking moronic shutters who get all their information on how to run an esport from matchmaking spread sheets from gold nova games and Nip fan boys on reddit threads. Csgo is going down the shutter because of how fucking stupid valve is.
2016-01-07 19:23
i think that is enough. Now, you should do charity things or things that make the game bigger. Valve waited 1 year to say nothing, that sucks.
2016-01-07 06:07
Ayyy cry me a river
2016-01-07 06:07
agree!
2016-01-07 06:07
rip
2016-01-07 06:07
Clearly unfair. 1 year=1 year. You spend this time on VACations, while s1mple (cheater) in 10 days will be clear and ready to play on majors
2016-01-07 06:09
nt neo
2016-01-07 16:44
rip to all banned players valve sucks
2016-01-07 06:12
1 year is fair when cheaters are staying unbanned. gl man!
2016-01-07 06:11
i agree with this valve should unban ibp, epsilon
2016-01-07 06:11
#23
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Finland Dragonpig 
Why risk your career in the first place. It's like an unwritten rule that you don't do things like that. Common sense. 100$ and your whole career is gone, must be worth it. Gl to your future tho.
2016-01-07 06:11
#24
France fxy0 
That's the thing, in any others sports you can't risk your career for such a thing. They banned me for a year and I accepted it as it was a fault. But a lifeban ... wow
2016-01-07 06:12
Do what DaZeD does and play cs full time still, but not at a competitive level, but at a streaming level. I'm sure you'll have enough french fan boys who will donate to you.
2016-01-07 06:16
Lol sorry to break it to you but American streamers make a shit ton more money than EU streamers, simply cuz of the much bigger fanbase (and money) Even Dazed makes more money than top EU pros like Olof, Friberg etc. What more to fxy0 who isn't even a top player with a solid enough fanbase (no offense fyx0)
2016-01-07 06:41
"Even Dazed makes more money than top EU pros like Olof, Friberg etc." no
2016-01-07 06:50
Donation + sub + viewers + fpl = ez 5k a month
2016-01-07 06:57
I'm pretty sure that any fnatic players makes a lot more than that(salary+bonuses+prizepool)
2016-01-07 07:07
#165
cunten | 
United States lybrel 
He's comparing NA streamers to EU streamers...
2016-01-07 07:31
If olof would go fulltime streaming he would make alot more.
2016-01-07 07:45
#200
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Bangladesh SithLord 
Hes one of the outliers though, he got his viewers because hes arguably the best csgo-player of all time AND hes on 1 of the most recognizable organizations of counter-strike history, the best team of csgo-history.. Hes got PLENTY of exposure from all the tournaments hes played in, especially reaching minimum top8 in ALL MAJORS, Winning 2 of them.
2016-01-07 07:52
i agree
2016-01-07 08:09
no, hes not. thats the point
2016-01-07 13:07
he's only talking about streaming
2016-01-07 13:44
Yes because he has NetcodeGuides... :)
2016-01-07 13:44
when i see dazed streaming he usually has like 3-4k viewers. When i see olof streaming he usually has like 10-15k viewers. + salary from fnatic + sticker money 4 times a year + tourmanet winnings. I dont think dazed makes more.
2016-01-07 07:37
#1099
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Portugal Zedonp 
Lol dude. You know olof wins majors and has way more donations then shit dazed. Friberg yeah he might have more but friberg right now is a t4 players so its not that surprising.
2016-01-08 11:55
americans are sou out of touch with the world. i really hope u die soon
2016-01-07 15:23
You're a beast awper, you should stream :)
2016-01-07 06:38
that's exactly the thing. You thought you can steal from community and not be punished hard. From now on you are examples for the other pros out there, what will happen if you do so. I suggest you to move on with your life from cs or just make a team that competes other that valve events. It's only valve sponsored event that you guys are banned right? Cheers
2016-01-07 13:12
+1... who thinks he can risk it and easily steal from the community doesnt deserve the support from the community to get unbanned for something that was against the community, even when it wasnt aimed to be against the community ! good example of greed and what it does to ppl... get over it fxyo and move on in your life and change your mind if it's not already too late... in general i am against life-time bans, but what you wrote there just perfectly shows why you shouldnt be unbanned !
2016-01-09 12:23
#25
Australia Mtee 
I am on your side. I think Valve have handled this HORRIBLY and to leave humans in limbo for A YEAR before determining with no apparent trial a life ban is warranted, i just dont see the logic or rational. These guys can eloquently present their case which deserves to be heard and moreover the judgment was seemingly handed down to appease the overly vocal shitty part of the scene filled with those who like to see others suffer. I wish someone with a brain and heart at valve would review these cases individually and judge accordingly. For better or worse (maybe the length of ban and punishment should be longer/harsher in some cases) but at least they would be fair and we along with those involved can make peace with it. I did not realise this was a totalitarian society in which we are simply at the mercy of a faceless org. I thought we played counterstrike, the best game on earth :(
2016-01-07 06:13
#30
France fxy0 
Well, I can only agree with that. If only you were working at Volve :/ ahah
2016-01-07 06:15
#41
Australia Mtee 
I wish I was. Even if only to ask them how they have come to this conclusion and to be accountable for their decisions. A public statement such as the one they released is so 'Riot' in its manifestation... it begs questions as to what the fuck valve is about to turn this scene into. Apparently 15 yr old stealing the parents credit card for betting and skins or hackers roaming unbanned with 10 accounts ready to go is appropriate but the rehabilitation of someone who has made a very bad decision but shows they can learn from it is not... wtf is even going on any more. I feel for you bro, and would support if there was a way to help.
2016-01-07 06:20
i think you should be un banned and that the ibp kids should be banned a bit more. They were very persistent in denying everything and you were very submissive by confessing.
2016-01-07 06:23
#52
Germany Herp 
..... after gmx revelead it there was no point in denying it the only one who deserves a second chance here might be gmx who came clear first and pulled the trigger on everybody
2016-01-07 06:27
its interesting to wonder how many teams in csgo history have thrown at least once and how half of the ones ever caught were from such popular teams. hmm >;/ that spot light
2016-01-07 06:45
..... in your world there wouldnt be any mafiosis running around doing shady shit and your police state would actually work in a proper way. Even terror wouldnt exist in that world. Also VAC would actually work :D Bitch please ......
2016-01-07 06:50
ok i see how you work it right there. im a fan
2016-01-07 06:53
"I wish someone with a brain and heart at valve would review these cases individually and judge accordingly. " Totally agree man.
2016-01-07 07:00
Valve is ridiculous, acting like they care and shit.. They don't give a fuck about the community and it's really sad.
2016-01-07 06:14
sucks to be you
2016-01-07 06:15
FREE IBP, FREE PEPSILON
2016-01-07 06:15
It's pretty simple really, Valve fucked this entire thing up and the only way to cover their own asses was to just ban everyone involved permanently and take no further part in it, nor admit their mistake.
2016-01-07 06:16
Match-fixing is a mistake, not a punishment.
2016-01-07 10:10
#34
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Sweden nikstar 
ScreaM and Skadoodle dodged their bans, this is harsh but fair. What's fucked up is cheaters gets a second chance and match-fixers don't.
2016-01-07 06:18
It's complete bullshit to get a lifetime ban for a crime without a (at the time) set punishment, especially since Valve permits confirmed cheaters to play in majors after several years. Is redemption possible, or is it not? According to Valve, the answer seems to simultaneously be 'yes' and 'no.'
2016-01-07 06:18
You'll never get unbanned now that's for sure cuz that's how valve is rollin' .. -.- Fuck valve got nothing more to Write.
2016-01-07 06:19
I said many times that valve has no clue about what they are doing, and btw people nave to stop comparing this to real sports because it's nowhere near close. Nice statement btw i agree with you
2016-01-07 06:19
rekt
2016-01-07 06:19
matchfixing is matchfixing whether you win 100$ or 100,000. You guys were dumb enough to throw a 45-55 match on CSGL so you didn't win anything. That doesn't mean you don't "get punished" for it or it's considering less. You fixed a match, and committed the ultimate sin of eSports and traditional sports. bye
2016-01-07 06:20
#45
France fxy0 
I'm not saying I didn't want any punishement. Did I say anything a year ago when they banned me for a year ? No, I totally agreed with them. But after this year, don't you think it was enough, especially when you say i didn't win nothing ?
2016-01-07 06:22
The only thing that can helps you and other players is the VP scandal, maybe if the community starts flooding with it valve would take a look on your punishement which i found rude for a really non-important game (if it was a LAN game then you deserve for it). Anyway 1 year of ban was enough and i really hope you and others go back to the pro scene.
2016-01-07 07:33
>people still think valve give a shit to CS GO
2016-01-07 06:21
They do, thats why they banned these thieves from ripping people off again
2016-01-07 06:29
But they dont ban dota players for doing the same thing? Shut the fuck up you dumb cunt.
2016-01-07 07:54
they do, maybe you shouldnt repeat bullshit you just heard.
2016-01-07 13:10
#771
ISSAA | 
Greece Swishh_ 
+1
2016-01-07 14:02
they are setting great example by doing this IMO, ofc i kinda feel for u and everybody else hows career was ruined by this but its just how things go in this scene
2016-01-07 06:22
I'm with you Joey, the lifetime bans for both you and iBP are unfair and cruel.
2016-01-07 06:22
#FREESTEEL #FREESWAG #FREEDAZEd #FREEFXY0 #FREEAZK oh wait..
2016-01-07 06:26
Sucks, man. Sorry to hear about the strict ruling. Even good people do bad things after all.
2016-01-07 06:28
''Valve certified that my case would be reviewed in 2016'' they did which is why they are turning your ban into a permanent one. Sry if I dont shed a tear for match fixers
2016-01-07 06:29
Yea cuz u never did anything wrong in u life right?
2016-01-07 06:30
Wrong ye sure did I go to whine about it on a forum, nope. It's Valves game they can do whatever they like .Personally I approve of their zero tolerance approach when it comes to match fixing and cheating.
2016-01-07 06:42
Meanwhile s1mple and m0e can still play after cheating and there are tons of cheating on T2,T3 games.
2016-01-07 06:49
They hosted a blog last year saying that people with csgo vac bans are forbidden from playing the in majors. With regards to simple and moe if they cheated they were caught on 3rd party anti cheats eslwire, esea client valve doesn't own or have access to them so they don't consider the bans as valid seeing as their anti cheat didn't get a positive hit. Valve has all the power and can do whatever the fuck they want at least they told the guys its perma ban now so they can move on.
2016-01-07 07:04
caught cheating is caught cheating valve should have vac the best anti cheat there is but he even that is a thing you can't trust on.... the thing is vac is already from the beginning an anti cheat software that really walks miles behind the cheats. for valve it isn't really hard 2 get better just take a membership to all public cheats out there and you have all the source codes and you can active search on the software. then you still got the private cheats but that's not a big issue for the casual side. the vac waves that are there also always come together with a steam sale..... hmmmzzz why is that ? i think you still can make a lawyer case from it because the boys have nothing to lose anymore so just go balls deep then! and lawyer up and fight it for as long ass possible even get a crowdfunding and support page in the air! just giving up isn't the way you get @ the top so @ steel dazed SWAG fxyo team up make a big case from it and fight for your place back in the pro side again!
2016-01-07 10:14
valve doesn't own csgl either, nor are they affiliated with them
2016-01-07 13:17
rip
2016-01-07 06:29
Really hope Valve reconsider for all of the players. People change, and a year ban is not only good enough punishment, but also a significant life lesson. Solo gets let off, but you guys don't. <3
2016-01-07 06:30
I was a fan, but matchfixing is just as bad as cheating
2016-01-07 06:31
Not it isn't shut up
2016-01-07 06:35
it actually is, but a lifetime ban is definitely not fair.
2016-01-07 06:42
#105
Sweden BBW 
Then how come you get away with cheating in this scene and not match-fixing ? (well, that too lmao) I'm talking about caught players.
2016-01-07 06:46
i think its worse. everyone wants to win. doing everything you can to do so is just a natural urge. throwing however is being as scummy as it gets, a pure act of greed.
2016-01-07 13:14
rip
2016-01-07 06:32
i agree with everyone saying cheaters get a second chance and people like you not getting one. its dumb. its unfair how they told you a year and changed it also. well, good luck
2016-01-07 06:34
It doesn't matter if you agree with the permanent ban or not, but for sure Valve handled the ban poorly and unprofessionally. They gave an indefinite ban to players and left them hanging for almost a year. The statement they recently released, could have been decided within a month of the incident. Also the lack of rules implemented during the throw should have been one of the deciding factors against a permanent ban.
2016-01-07 06:35
+1, respect for fxy0. The permanent ban was the easy half-assed business decision but definitely not an ethical one. Valve seem to not care about screwing lives over but instead earning money. In the end, I have hope true justice will rise.
2016-01-07 06:36
"If I go to the supermarket to steal a lollipop, I would not risk the same as a bank robbery right" It's not about how you risk it's about the act itself. And yes, both that steal a lollipop and a bank should go to prison. "I repeat, even murder do not cause perpetuit" Depends on the country, you know, you could even be legally killed for killing someone. I liked the decision because it makes sure the scene literally got rid of people that did the wrong thing, it will make sure everyone that come with the same brilliant idea, will at least think twice and probably will not do. Also, its a important thing for life... don't chose the wrong way to do things, just don't. You're a grown man, you knew it was wrong, you decided to go on, you let it leak. Wrong, wrong, wrong. The consequence was as harsh as it could be, but I hope you guys from Epsilon and iBP learned your lesson, not only about e-sports, but a lesson for your lives.
2016-01-07 06:37
#86
France fxy0 
It's not about how you risk it's about the act itself. And yes, both that steal a lollipop and a bank should go to prison. I agree with you, but would I stay in prison the same time ?
2016-01-07 06:40
Talking realistically no, because to rob a bank you would probably be part of a gang, would use guns, these things would make you stay in jail for more time, because they are different crimes. But talking about a simple product being stolen from a single individual, with the difference being the value of them: a lollipop and a last gen phone. Yes, in this case I think both should stay in prison for the same time.
2016-01-07 06:49
R_E_K_T gj
2016-01-07 07:28
Thats some fucked up logic you're possessing.
2016-01-07 09:02
Wtf ! You are like this extremist islamistes... You steal ok! We cut your arm. No second chance!
2016-01-07 14:02
Wait what? xD
2016-01-07 14:20
#93
Germany Herp 
well said
2016-01-07 06:42
I think you and ex-epsilon should be unbanned along with swag who was under 18 when he match fixed. But you can't expect the community to forgive you this easily...
2016-01-07 06:37
#92
NEO | 
Poland Szekka12 
He`s right, you know
2016-01-07 06:42
This is like grow you lamb to finally take it to the slaughter, volvo needs a laywer, not themselves to judge some1 from a team (betting = risk, all betting sites advice about this, but this is still inmoral from a pro player like you), gl finding another way to realize your life fxy0; i think that all the banned players need to take legal actions or something of the style.
2016-01-07 06:43
You really think valve doesnt have laywers and hasnt done the research before hand? :D And srsly what makes u think tournament organizers cant choose who plays at their tournaments? If that wouldnt be the case any1 could bruteforce their way into mayor for free 50k then. Cheaters could go 100% blatant but not detected by vac so no reason not to take them in for example...
2016-01-07 14:02
idk, 1 year is a bit too much time for a concrete response i think, but k den, all guys banned, the scene continues with or without them...
2016-01-07 16:34
Valve is playing God again. Except they think the revolver, rifle spray pattern update and perma-banning some, but not all (Pasha, for example) skin thieves are all good ideas.
2016-01-07 06:44
good luck mate, hopefully some league unbans you and some team accepts you, huge wasted talent and it sucks that valve acted the way they did.
2016-01-07 06:45
Welcome to us, the regulars of hltv. One of us One of us One of us
2016-01-07 06:45
#103
Sweden BBW 
Exactly fxy0. I don't know what to do really though. I think it's only a rational thought that this is wrong, but I don't know how to actually take action. I don't believe the community is capable of it. The amount of complaining that R8 took...
2016-01-07 06:45
fxyo, u talk about how much you made. you have to involve the money of every people that bet on you and lost. not only your profit, they lost alot of money
2016-01-07 06:49
It was a 45/55 match, not a 90/10. So I don't know. It was at the end of the Epsilon-era, we were not as good and we played on OG best map.
2016-01-07 06:50
You do realize that the odds should have been 90-10 to Overgaming? Epsilon was starting T-side Nuke and they didn't even practise Nuke so it was already guaranteed they lose regardless of how much they try. So noone actually lost money.
2016-01-07 06:51
valve is fucked up
2016-01-07 06:49
Its valve what do you expect, the only things they ever do for csgo is check out the steam workshop and sell skins and maps made by the community. Valve is a piece of shit when it comes to csgo and the only thing keeping this game alive is the dedicated community that they picked up from 1.6 and source, really frustrating. Anyways best of luck, hope you play with teams in smaller non-valve sponsored leagues.
2016-01-07 06:50
I actually think that if you were to sue Valve (along with some other pros), you'd have a pretty good case. You didnt break any written rules, and Valve fucked you over (by saying 1 year and we will look into it again). To me it always sounded like one year ban was your full punishment, as there were no real frame of punishment as it had not happened before. Actually if you really want to find punishments from other eSports, LoL usually punishes shit with a year ban as well. I think you'd have a great case.
2016-01-07 06:53
They'd have no chance at all in court, fxyo and co.
2016-01-07 09:04
#120
AZK | 
United States Dood 
Can you post a screenshot or something of the email where Valve says that you were banned for 1 year? I remember reading your statement that said "1 year ban" but also reading that you were indefinitely banned from the ESL site
2016-01-07 06:58
Agree fyxo. I hope you can still have somewhat of a carreer! I'm sorry for all the kiddy reaction here on hltv.org
2016-01-07 06:56
It is not about the skins or the amount of money you have earned. It is about the integrity of the game. You lost a game on purpose, that is unacceptable. All of you (the ones banned for match fixing) are viewed the same, because you committed the same crime, regardless of how much you earned from it. Your case isn't special, it is not any different than the case of ex-IBP players or other players that were caught match fixing. What you and the rest of the community don't understand is that the damage you have done to the community by taking their precious skins away is almost irrelevant in all of this. All those people screaming "FUCK YEAH, BAN THEM FOR LIFE THEY LOST MY SKINS" are idiots if they truly think that they and their skins are the reason for these bans. That has very little to do with it, it's all about the integrity of the game. Do I think the punishment is harsh? Yes, I think it is. A year or two would have been enough. However Valve thinks otherwise, they are probably looking into the future and they are of the opinion that they need to stomp on this issue hard now to make their view on match fixing clear. The issue is, if this was the way they wanted to go they should have issued permanent bans last year and been done with it. Taking a year just to say "lol jk, the bans are permanent" makes them seem indecisive now.
2016-01-07 06:57
The problem with how Valve handled this situation was that there was no precedent. It's somewhat unfair to hand people a new set of rules, based on a circumstance which they're partially responsible for (since they aren't trying to mitigate the migration of skins or how they're used until it appears like negative publicity). The prudent course of action would've been to do something akin to a year ban, followed by a statement that clarified their stance on the situation. If a person doesn't know the depth of their transgression they cannot accurately judge their consequences. TL;DR: Yeah, all the players who threw fucked up, but it's not fair to permanently ban them since none of them really understood the severity of their actions. Valve should've done a long, but fair, ban and then issued a statement that mirrored their current stance (ie: if anyone throws a game for a bet beyond this point the repercussions are permanent).
2016-01-07 06:59
You do understand that "none of them really understood the severity of their actions" only applies to retards and young kids. And most countries 17yo(swag) is fully reponsible for his actions.
2016-01-07 14:08
You do understand that without precedent you cannot comprehend the punishment that will befall you, right? What they did was undeniably wrong, and there should be repercussions, but to say it's fair to ban someone when there were no clear guidelines as to the consequences is, frankly, appalling. Edit: I mean, seriously. It's a shit argument to say "well, they're adults so they deserve it." No one knew what their punishment would be, and they effectively made themselves into martyrs for a system which is fundamentally flawed to begin with. Again, they deserve a strong punishment but a lifetime ban to set an example is incredibly unfair since no one knew that would be the situation until well after the fact.
2016-01-07 19:32
Well examples had to be made coz its insanely hard to get proof of these throws. Basically only way is to get the info from the inside and that happens rarely.
2016-01-08 01:21
I don't disagree with that, obviously, I just find it unfair that the punishment was as steep as it was. Had they done it after a rule was established, well, then that was their own fault.
2016-01-08 02:41
Feels Bad Man
2016-01-07 07:03
Gl fxyo, hope you get back into the scene.
2016-01-07 07:04
fxy0 was a beast :( and valve fucked up so bad
2016-01-07 07:06
lmao
2016-01-07 07:07
indeed dude, if you kill a person, it isnt their mother/father that will punish you, why should fucking valve punish someone just because they match fixed on a betting site that has nothing to do with valve itself as they claim all the fucking time?! more, even murder, bank robbery, child molesting, genocide have lesser punishment.. EVEN ON FUCKING FIFA, Blatter and Platini werent banned for life... Who gave fat fucking Gaben that kind of power? They are developers not judges! They dont even know how to play their own fucking game! These people never cheated so it shouldnt be Valve having the last word! FUCK GABEN! (probably will be banned for this)
2016-01-07 07:08
fxy0 i love you, do you love me
2016-01-07 07:10
guys.. lets cheat..valve will give u a second chance
2016-01-07 07:11
What really got me after reading your statement was 'Valve can not be the judge and the jury.' That's so true, If eSports wants to grow there should be a court specifically justified for eSports.
2016-01-07 07:13
azk he is the north american player but the titan he is the french stars
2016-01-07 07:21
gj Valve. Dont listen to this kids supporting him. This is and always has been the game of skill. I wouln't forgive some random guy in mm, not to mention a "pro". Stay low fxyo youtu.be/_4RcXo5PLiE?t=1314
2016-01-07 07:15
It destroys all my years of investment in the eSsport. All these years, training hard to be able to compete with the best. All these years I played every game and I gave everythingg with honor, with only one desire, i didn't want to disapoint the community. ROFL? Why would you throw in the first place and why do you keep saying that you only earned 100€? Even if you didn't earn anything, you still match-fixed and that's what counts. Also VALVe can do whatever they want since its their game and I'd like to see you sue them for this, because your match-fixing won't hold up there m8, you're fucked. I do agree that it was stupid that they waited for the entire year with this perma ban, but lets be real here, noone actually expected you guys to get unbanned.
2016-01-07 07:16
Solo, Dota 2 player threw a match (he bet on egamingbets, we're talking real money not some pixels) and Valve didn't do shit about it. Starladder banned him for 1 year and then made it 6 months. He's playing professionally now like nothing happened. NOTE: Not that i commend people for doing this kind of thing but if you havent set your rules and when something like this happens u give a lifetime ban to someone, thats retarded.
2016-01-07 07:17
yup , cevo should have handled the situation , not valve.
2016-01-07 07:34
#294
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Germany ndr^ 
this made me realize that the league admins should've handed out the bans and not the developer (valve). this is a really weird and fucked up decision making from valve.
2016-01-07 08:47
nah just look it like the real world death and taxes is the only sure thing there is. so lets say valve = taxes you don't fuck with that because then you burn fast and there isn't anything you can do about it because they always win in the end
2016-01-07 10:20
you are right.but valve doesn't care, so you're basically fucked.
2016-01-07 07:21
he cheated and he's right? bwahahahah
2016-01-07 07:23
but the crime doesnt fit the punishment. stealing a shitt tv doesnt warrant life in prison. we have this thing in civilized countries called 'justice' and 'fair trial', not sure if you've ever heard of it.
2016-01-07 08:01
fair and Murica don't go together lad
2016-01-07 08:54
You also have guns and black people dying everyday because cops have shot someone. Very civilised.
2016-01-07 12:01
this isn't kqly
2016-01-07 08:03
Didn't read it all but for me the punishment is too harsh, especially because there was no previous rules regarding throwing.. 1 or 2 years should have been enough, with a promise of perma ban for anybody who do it in next officials :)
2016-01-07 07:25
+1
2016-01-07 08:59
#160
CIS Ume 
you're not the victim here.... keep him banned!
2016-01-07 07:26
These players have been kept in the dark for a year now, waiting for their case to be reviewed and they don't even get to speak their own case? Valve is so pathetic, with the amount of work done, they might aswell have just banned them permanently immediately. And getting a perm ban for 100$ is quite lame, even though what you did was wrong.
2016-01-07 07:30
fxy0 I remember when you made that video response to the throw, you were the only player to give a damn and try to apologize. I really thing your ban should be reviewed and lifted. You bing up many good points, but I can only hope for the best my friend. Good luck!
2016-01-07 07:32
Thank you my friend !
2016-01-07 07:33
my fred* #unbanfxy0
2016-01-07 10:08
#171
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Finland Fherrera 
you were such a good player... sad to see this text :(
2016-01-07 07:32
I think too many people forget how little money there was for t2 / t3 pros only a year ago. fxyo, uzii, gmx, and ibp turned to throwing because the amount of money to be made from this game was, up until very recently, pathetic. That's partially valve's fault, although I'm sure they don't feel that way
2016-01-07 07:35
dazed talking about it twitch.tv/godazed
2016-01-07 07:35
You are right, there were no rules in place to stop you from doing what you did. CSGOLounge isn't linked to valve and betting isn't either. People choose to bet their skins on games, theres no one forcing them to. I think you shouldn't be banned and get a second chance.
2016-01-07 07:36
#300
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Sweden mr-gusse 
Guess what, all online betting sites aren't connected to any particular sports either, but if you are caught match-fixing in spors you get bans any way. And there should not have to be rules in Place, players should use their common sense to understand that it's wrong to do it since others who bet on the same match will be affected, people who has bought their skins for real Money. It's the same thing as STEALING money.
2016-01-07 08:51
FUCK GABEN
2016-01-07 07:38
Valve is handling this whole Situation completley random wich is riddic compared to the growth of esports, isnt it possible to work with the active pros to boycott valve Majors? I know this sounds unreal compared to the money involved but these guys should care about the bigger picture of esports (beside the fact that i dont think valve is able of Running these major without the "Legends" from last year) would be the best solution, but getting these Teams to boycott a valve Majors is a different thing :\
2016-01-07 07:39
yea i agree its too harsh. 1 year is enough .. if you knew the consequences you wouldn't have done it anyways. valve is just harming the pro community by banning so many good players.
2016-01-07 07:40
#304
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Sweden mr-gusse 
They are not harming the pro-Community, they are cleaning it up. Getting rid of scumbags
2016-01-07 08:53
You are the one of all banned players that tried to apologize and make some statements about that so i actually hope that your ban will be reviewed and lifted but until then lets go back to faceit and smash each other
2016-01-07 07:43
no system was in place!?...how about morals?
2016-01-07 07:46
The community needs to understand that valve majors aren't everything.
2016-01-07 07:46
Surely they are not but the players still suffer from that stigma of being Valve-banned from a Valve game ukno. Lifetime ban is just way too harsh. We all make mistakes and if they sincerely regret it they should be given a second chance.
2016-01-07 08:29
Yeah man, I also believe that a lifetime ban is not justified at all, but that's not really the point I'm trying to make. I'm basically just saying that the banned players would still be able to play at a fairly high level in non-valve tournaments (unless all the leagues decides to be jerks).
2016-01-07 15:34
He is lucky he match-fixed in eSports not in real life or he would be sent to 5 year sentence already
2016-01-07 07:47
that's rough tbh VALVe gonna respond to it or ESEA (It was an ESEA match I think) the example of Solo is damn right read the bio wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Solo gosugamers.net/dota2/news/24589-solo-s-b..
2016-01-07 07:49
it was CEVO
2016-01-07 07:50
oh shit my bad, i woke up just like 10 minutes ago when i wrote that so i thought that we are talking bout ibp vs ncg, my bad :c
2016-01-07 09:03
#203
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Serbia whoa!! 
valve really fucked their careers up,one year ban was more than enough.Everyone deserves second chances.
2016-01-07 07:52
#225
CIS Ume 
"valve really fucked their careers up" hahahahahah
2016-01-07 08:06
ye valve did, not the players when they stole money edit : sry wrong reply
2016-01-07 13:33
rofl, hope u stay banned
2016-01-07 07:53
#207
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Sweden Prysak 
Fxyo pls post this in reddit, valve only read there
2016-01-07 07:55
2016-01-07 07:56
#281
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Sweden Prysak 
I really hope that valve listen for once the voice of the proplayers affected, I think that being a hole year in some sort of limbo is atleast a good punishment for what was done. Hope the very best for u and all the others pros being perban.
2016-01-07 08:40
copy and pasting because i'd really like to see all the csgo personalities stand up and do something against what they have said on their twitters is too harsh just replying to a random comment of yours but Have you considered trying to talk with the ex-iBP players aswell on this? You guys could probably get a lot of community support going, if you looked at the compilation of tweets most csgo personalities, they all were in favor of something not permanent, personally i think missing one more major is more than enough punishment already. But if say you got together with some CSGO personalities who supported you and you getting unbanned in some time rather than never, you could easily fight this, players have HUGE power they just don't realize, the only reason people watch big matches is because of the players and competition and if they aren't happy thats bad for valve
2016-01-07 15:39
"Hmmm 1 year ban k lemme think bout it ima contact u l8r k its enough to fuk up yo career m8 lol gl coming back next year" "Nevermind fuck you anyway ban 4 lyfe"
2016-01-07 08:02
The problem that I have is not so much with the fact that you have been banned for life, but rather with the fact that valve can just do whatever they like. "Take nearly a year to decide on whether people should stay banned or if the ban should be lifted? Yes we do!". This is simply unfair and wrong in so many ways. If esports ever wants to get to the point where it could be compared with other sports, there should be atleast some sort of power distribution. There should be a difference between legislative and executive power.
2016-01-07 08:03
I really feel for these players (iBP included of course). This is so fucked up and I hate Valve for it.
2016-01-07 08:04
for real, this guy is perfectly right! Just use your logic one second. you cannot throw someone in prison for one year and then after that year tell him his gonna stay the rest of his life there. Valve is a real joke in those match fixing ban
2016-01-07 08:11
The fact that they made them wait a year in limbo is fucked up
2016-01-07 08:08
hey man, obviously you already know but I've been a fan for a long time, glad you came out and spoke your mind regarding the ban, its terrible and hopefully valve reconsider. Unless if someone has been caught cheating at the highest level during competition or league play they should always get a second chance, but a lifetime ban for this, ridiculous. Best of luck in the future Joey.
2016-01-07 08:09
Well, actually a real cheater doesn't receive any lifetime ban but a match-fixer does.
2016-01-07 08:10
really? thats ridiculous dude :/
2016-01-07 08:11
S1MPLE cheated in ESL and he got a esl ban ( VAC couldn t find that cheat so ..) and he got a 2 years ban for ESL tournament
2016-01-07 10:59
yeah and mOE aswell now that I think about it
2016-01-07 11:07
Valve can only trust vac and all vac banned players are banned. Valve cannot verify if faceit/esl/esea bans are not valse positives. But you have 0 knowledge and 0 brain so is ok to make retarded comments. Hf at mcdonals
2016-01-07 09:03
LOL.... Cheaters will eventually get caught and banned from Pro scene....Some of them might get second chance in pro level.. But you only get banned under Valve Majors..And your decision was to scam community..Now you paid for hardest way from game creator.. What message will they brought to community by forgivin match-fixing? Personally as owner of Valve, I would do the same thing. This is the only way they could make sure people don't even hesitate startin match-fixing. If you *fck with Valve you will get BURNED SON... Enjoy lifetime ban btw..But you should start beggin other orgs forgive you for your SINS.
2016-01-07 09:24
What are you talking about? It's crazy how many of you make no SENSE at all.
2016-01-07 14:21
Lifetime ban is kinda cruel. I'm with you fxy0! Fucking pixels, destroying CSGO from inside
2016-01-07 08:11
FeelsBadMan
2016-01-07 08:11
fxy0 why would you post it here? hltv is just a troll shit stain fest
2016-01-07 08:12
#335
maoaN | 
CIS maoaN 
what else can he do? since volvo communicates with the "vics" trough the same platform?!
2016-01-07 09:18
maybe post it on reddit? On his social media?
2016-01-07 10:33
done and done
2016-01-07 10:34
one of the only legit players in the french top scene, really hope you get to play again, would have loved to see you team up with mSx. good luck!
2016-01-07 14:20
copy and pasting because i'd really like to see all the csgo personalities stand up and do something against what they have said on their twitters is too harsh just replying to a random comment of yours but Have you considered trying to talk with the ex-iBP players aswell on this? You guys could probably get a lot of community support going, if you looked at the compilation of tweets most csgo personalities, they all were in favor of something not permanent, personally i think missing one more major is more than enough punishment already. But if say you got together with some CSGO personalities who supported you and you getting unbanned in some time rather than never, you could easily fight this, players have HUGE power they just don't realize, the only reason people watch big matches is because of the players and competition and if they aren't happy thats bad for valve
2016-01-07 15:24
That's a fight you won't win anyway.
2016-04-15 01:18
i still think the lifetime ban is way too harsh, especially because there were no rules about that back then. i mean a penalty fee and a 1-3 years (or even more depends on the case) would be more appropriate or set up something like a rehabilitation program. what i'm asking myself is why nothing happened to the VP guys, when they played a match vs LDLC (i guess?) and they bet on themself, cause they knew the result. or some other matches that were obviously thrown and the teams got away with it. (i'm talking about RU / NA / asian matches, bad work volvo and csgl). and why did ska get away? i mean he was a part of it and because he didn't receive some skins he's suddenly innocent? he could've said: i won't play if u gonna throw, but yeah it's a difficult situation. everyone should get a 2nd chance, we are all human beings that do mistakes.
2016-01-07 08:13
Interesting to read and I need to say i'am on your's and the other players side. A ban for life in this situation is just to much. People learn by their misstakes so you deserv a second chance. Gl mate<3
2016-01-07 08:21
Even tho I find match fixing very fucking disgusting I still think a lifetime ban is just way over the top. As you said, you would have been ready to pay a fine and I think something like that would work perfectly. You screw people over, you pay back. I'm pretty sure if we all come together on this, all the fans, we might still chance Valve's mind.
2016-01-07 08:24
reading this made me kinda sad actually, i hope valve gives at least you one more chance especially considering 100 euros is basically nothing. i can't help but feel as though hltv was the wrong place to post your statement, but it was a good read. best of luck \o
2016-01-07 08:28
Valve is fucking retarded. Doing something stupid on a website that has nothing to do with valve, in a completely useless match, and no official rule by valve. Braindead. 1 year is enough, I truly hope you will be unbanned fxy0!
2016-01-07 08:37
#309
AdreN | 
United States Butts 
what other matches are they supposed to throw? important majors with tons of money on the line and all eyes watching them? these are the matches people are going to throw. and besides, how important the match has no relevance at all.. match fixing is match fixing.. and players should have integrity in all matches they play. and some things don't need a flashing red notice saying you shouldn't do it... you know, like match fixing, which in every sport is a huge fucking DON'T DO. you can think they don't deserve a lifetime ban, but if you're going to sit here and say 1 year is enough you're a chump. simple as that. if you're a shitty as player living in a shitty ass country making a shitty ass wage knowing you're always going to be a shitty ass player.. if all you got was a 1 year ban it would be worth the risk throwing a handful of games every now and then making more than you would playing legit. they knew going in how fucking serious match-fixing was but did it anyway knowing they can use the "well there wasn't a rule" as a fallback. fuck that shit.
2016-01-07 08:59
The thing is, if something isnt a rule, how can u punish someone for it? The 1 year ban was enough already. Valve is just trying to look badass.
2016-01-07 09:04
#328
AdreN | 
United States Butts 
there probably isn't a rule stating you can't run up to your opponent and destroy his PC and punch the back of his head, but good luck using that as an excuse when they call the police and get you arrested for assault and battery charges.. some things we just know we shouldn't do and don't need a rule explicitly telling us not to do it.
2016-01-07 09:11
its a rule in real life so that has nothing to do with the game itself.
2016-01-07 09:23
Hey fxy0,i rarely reply on this forum but this situation is just terrible. First of all,betting sites like csgolounge has nothing to do with valve,people betting their skins cuz they want you didn't forced them. And lifetime ban is just a joke from valve,you are such a talented person. I really don't care about ibp that much,but you and swag are wasted talents if they don't lift your bans ;/
2016-01-07 08:39
volvo doesnt give a fuck so
2016-01-07 08:40
#293
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Sweden mr-gusse 
Even though there was no ruling against this at the time, there's something called morale and you should have known it's not okay to do so. Even if esports is still small compared to ordinary sports and no ruling was in Place there were lots of examples from sports where players/leaders were found guilty of matchfixing. However, like in for example football there should be an official organisation taking care of these cases, not a manufacturer of a game. It's like Adidas banning people for using illegal performance enhancing substances, it's not right. But esports aren't "there yet".
2016-01-07 08:46
You were honest from the beginning and took responsibility of what you did, and accepted punishment for your "crimes", you deserves to be unbanned. Ibuypower on the other hand, doesn't in my eyes.
2016-01-07 08:50
#310
NiKo | 
Slovakia DRUGI 
If you steal shit-tons of money while you play in the best NA team (and one of the best teams in the world), you're not gonna say you did it. One more year ban would be perfect punishment for all of them - it's strict enough (I don't think anyone is going to risk it again).
2016-01-07 09:00
well I do of course understand that the majority would deny the facts until the very end, but some of the na players did it in a.. Let's say disrespectful manner. Chances are that if ibuypower members didn't put up that kind of scene as they did right after they got exposed fxy0 wouldn't be in this kind of situation as he is in right now. I believe iBuypowers way of handling the situation made Valve respond with a worse, way worse reply, and that is understandable. Sadly fxy0 and the rest ended up in that mess. Let me be clear, match fixing is horrible and I'm not defending anyone, but sadly I don't have time to post all of my thoughts on the subject so I'm just going to end here.
2016-01-07 09:20
#330
AdreN | 
United States Butts 
you don't think those are crimes? why? i'm guessing because you think skins have no value? well tell ya what buddy, i'll take all your glorious cases then :>
2016-01-07 09:15
crimes as in "unlawful act punishable by a state"? no, at least not what I know of. Crime against the community? yes absolutely, and no I'm not one of those ignorant people that keeps yelling "ahhh stfu its only skinzz"
2016-01-07 09:32
see you in the next version of CS fxy0 (8 years or so)
2016-01-07 08:50
#299
AdreN | 
United States Butts 
if i was in some third world country playing for a shitty ass tier 3 team making a few thousand a month... you throw just a handful of games and you've already made more money than your entire salary in one year. and you know you aren't going to be a T1 pro. so what is a year ban anyway? that is why you're giving a permanent ban. match fixing is a fucking no brainer thing that you don't do in EVERY fucking sport ever. why would you think there would be an exception in esports? if you think that it just shows how much you truly deserve the ban because you thought you could fall back on that as an excuse. don't match fix. no sympathy from me. get rekt.
2016-01-07 08:51
These guys were American and Europeans not 3rd worlders.
2016-01-07 09:02
His example still mostly fits, even if I do disagree with a permanent ban. IBP didn't get a salary ever.
2016-01-07 13:24
Wow man honestly i cant not give second chances for the fact everyone does mistakes and u would want 1 too and i cant sta d seeing someone like this im here brotha anything u need im here <3 btw i didnt eveb see u plau but after this statement ik theres still good in u
2016-01-07 08:51
#302
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Germany ndr^ 
league admins should have been the judges in this case and hand out the bans. those matches happened in their league.
2016-01-07 08:53
#303
NiKo | 
Slovakia DRUGI 
smurf + plastic surgery ez katka
2016-01-07 08:53
What a lot of people forget is that if valve don't like you tough luck. You are banned for LIFE from VALVE tournaments ( CS is played every where else though and you keep forgetting this )
2016-01-07 09:01
the funniest thing is that the cunts saying you are scum and should die are the same people wanting to #FREESWAG
2016-01-07 09:03
#324
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Japan Sarada 
#freefxy0
2016-01-07 09:08
Matchfixing in cs = lifetime ban Matchfixing in dota = Well Solo got an direct invite to their previous major )
2016-01-07 09:08
#972
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North America Medusza 
Valve only cares about their shitty f2p point and click adventure. Look at prize money and viewership for it. Valve fucks up csgo constantly and bans our players but dota2 is untouchable. Valve are fucking shutters who shouldn't have the responsibility to run csgo.
2016-01-07 19:33
#327
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Romania dEkO.O 
This whole situation is really fucked up and i hope you will get unbanned as soon as possible. Anyway, good luck on your match today !
2016-01-07 09:10
I agree without. You should have been unbanned its not fair to get banned for life time when there were no rules back then for throwing. As you already mentioned in "real" sports ppl did much worse things and did not get banned for life because this would be ridiculous. I really hope you will be unbanned cause you are a sick awper and it would be sad to waste that talent. Maybe you or some1 else should start a petition, even though i dont think valve will care we should give it a try.
2016-01-07 09:12
There is not much to say about it. You are correct about VALVe handling the situation in a horrible way, but sadly they are the almighty ruler. I think the only hope for banned players is to act like angels and perhaps do some charity related work for the community, then perhaps in about a year, VALVe would re-evaluate the bans if the majority of the community would back up the banned players.
2016-01-07 09:15
Fxyo is not only a scammer . He also proves in his text that he is an idiot . YOU ARE NOT JUDGED ON HOW MUCH MONEY YOU MADE . YOU ARE JUDGED ON THE DAMAGE YOU CAUSED IDIOT
2016-01-07 09:17
Well, let's try to calculate that then ? A 45-55 match on Nuke, OG best map. Hmm, it changes nothing at all.
2016-01-07 09:20
You should be banned for life mate. You gamed the system you call this eSport well as a fan I think you're scum and I don't even bet. What kind of person (likely the one whos never played representative sport) would go to the depths of throwing for money this was a fucking hobby and you've hurt not only the players in your community (if you're good player) but your family now they know you're a piece of shit who does conniving things. I would never trust you again. Seriously we've had cheaters come and go in Aus and even ones who've continued to cheat and represent our nation and people feel the need to pat them on the back and say they forgive them after the 10th time but not me fuck you and you bastards.
2016-01-07 09:25
Thank you, I love you too.
2016-01-07 09:27
Dont mind this inbred fxy0 #freefxy0
2016-01-07 09:37
Attitude of the kids these days no respect for the spirit of the game. same reason why you're banned can't tell right from wrong. Glad it slapped you on the forehead!
2016-01-07 09:42
HOW MUCH ?
2016-01-07 11:00
My dream was(and still is)always to be a pro player.I think that you deserve to be unbanned.1 year is enough,2 years maybe,lifetime is too much especially for only 100 euros. #freefxy0
2016-01-07 09:19
I think everyone that threw a match and got a lifetime ban should be unbanned. It makes no sense to ban them for life. It makes no sense at all. It's unfair. I'm angry as fuck at valve. gonna start with WoW again thanks blizzard
2016-01-07 09:23
First of all any discussion regarding of throwers "stealing from the fans" should be thrown out and not regarded in any decision making of the ban as valve said themselves skins do not represent any monetary value. Only the fact that they threw a match should affect it. Secondly, GMX, you fucked up. You should waited till you've seen the decision valve makes for ibp etc. You just destroyed someone's life. I mean it's not your fault that valve is stupid and you are stupid as well to let some third party control your decisio. Hey if you intend to destroy your ex teammate's entire life then hey dude, you are smart as fuck. Thirdly, its a prank by valve, they are going to release source 2 soon and typically bans don't carry over games for valve. Do hold tight. Compete in non valve sponsored tournaments for now. Lastly, there should be a player coupe to take the upper hand on valve. And it's only going to start after VP gets banned.
2016-01-07 09:32
Source 2 is a different engine that will be implemented in CSGO. It most likely will not become a different game. Just like DOTA2 switched from source to source 2.
2016-01-07 09:49
Thats why we need something like FIFA in esports.. And maybe a esports federation in each country.. To deal with this kind of stuff. VALVE is just a company.. They dont rule the game, they just own it.. Its not like NIKE is making this kind of decisions in football our other sports they support with their gear.
2016-01-07 09:35
#356
truth | 
Norway truthh 
Well, uve had ur 1year bad i think thats enough for such a low winnings but still it was a huge mistake from ur side to throw the game imo i think u should be able to attend everything except majors.
2016-01-07 09:38
To anybody that thinks they got off early because in a "real sport" they would have been fined and possibly jailed you need to check up on your laws. In "real sports" throws the players would face legal consequences due to the fact that real money was involved. According to anybody including Valve skins are not a form of currency that hold monetary value. The second Valve decides to say that they hold monetary value and aren't just pixels the betting becomes illegal in the US. Once the skins have that value then it can be argued that the players profited from the unknowing bettors off on insider knowledge of an event they participated in then it can be a prosecutable charge. So long as skins stay skins and hold no real value and just act as pixels nobody can charge them with anything. They couldn't be charged anymore than a de-ranker in MM could be for griefing. In reality what happened during those games could be chalked up to greifing from a legal standpoint. They simply did not try but there is no monetary profit so there's no legal precedent for a case. In basketball the Philadelphia 76'ers lose games on purpose to get better draft picks the subsequent year. Guess what you can't do anything about it as long as they don't bet actual money on the other team. So in conclusion if you think they got off easy you are wrong. Valve ruined their careers to make a point and this is the worst possible thing that could have happened to them. Valve is acting in a supremely unjust manner by being the judge, jury, and executioner here and hopefully somebody can show them that because they're being children about this. To not give somebody a chance to even speak on their own behalf is childish at best. Seems to me like a bunch of selfish little brats running the show at valve. Regardless of the outcome these guys deserved a fair trial at the very least.
2016-01-07 09:39
wise words. one big problem is that valve is a monopole on the fps-games-market and everytime a company rules a market, they do what they want and they invest the minimum of money to earn a maximum of profite, thats why they apparently only hire fucking idiots to take care of csgo. Now look at dota, they are constantly in a fight with LoL, so they put money, ressources and capable people to take care of the community, because they get pressured by another company constantly. thats why almost every gamechaning step is in synchronization with the community, its a healthy relationship. i hope there will be a similar game as an alternative to cs soon (obv. its not CoD...) to show those valve idiots how much of fucking braindead people work there. i already have a name for this game: how do you like ONEPOINTSEVEN ? :)
2016-01-07 09:48
the problem is the fact that there were no rules or laws set anyway. probably everyone reading this has downloaded or watched a movie without paying for it, so should we all get banned from all cinemas because of that, or get imprisoned because we are stealing? because technically, we stole from the filmindustry too, but the copyrightlaw is a grey area - like copyright-problems, the betting case was a grey area, morally wrong, but - how can you get punished for an illegal action if there was no definition of legality in the first place? if valve wants to play this correct now, they need to: 1.Unban everyone involved. 2.Set up rules. 3.Ban everyone who violates those rules in the future.
2016-01-07 09:40
Hey man fxy0! I am totally on your side. You were the only player that actually seemed to give a fuck when the scandal happened. What you did was wrong but you showed immediate regret and apologized profusely. You made that video. Who else did? iBP denied the facts for ages. You immediately came clear about them. That has to count for something? Yes, you did receive punishment. Yes, what you did was horrible. But it seems like Valve doesn't realize you KNOW you did something horrible, you deeply REGRET doing it. Even in jail for horrible crimes, you can get out earlier based on good behavior and repention (at least in the French and Belgian systems). The thing is, what Valve did was wrong as well. They left you guys in limbo. Telling you you'd get a ban until 2016, and then get further review. They made it seem like you'd get unbanned now. You waited patiently only to get your hopes crushed. What kind of bullshit is that? And, you did matchfixing on a site that barely has anything to do with Valve. That doesn't make it less wrong or less justified for Valve to punish you, but, that site is barely legal as it is. How many underage people that aren't betting legally are on there? What an abomination. You were a true joy to watch. A very cool player. I know that if you've been given a second chance, you'll strive to be the best for the community you can be. And I do know you deserve that second chance. #freefxy0 ps: notice me senpai EDIT: Since your reward in the scandal was monetary, I think a temporary ban and a fine would have been the most appropriate punishment. They should at least have set up decent rules by now. The fine should be relative to how much was gained.
2016-01-07 09:42
Thank you mate ! About your EDIT, i received some skins and didn't even sell them...
2016-01-07 09:47
In any case, Valve repeatedly stated that skins do not represent any monetary value (which is fucking bullshit, we all know it) so in the traditional sense of fraud you can't even be convicted, since there was no "money" involved, following Valve's own definition. Seems like more people here are backing you than opposing you, and this is HLTV, home of the trolls. Let's just hope Valve listens. Thanks for answering btw, love you <3
2016-01-07 09:55
+1
2016-01-07 11:34
Volvo doesn't care the amount of shitty skins that you scammed, so don't try to talk about the iBP guys, don't ever bother, because the mistake is the same. Just think about this as a new start to your life bro, quit CS and find another passion.
2016-01-07 09:41
You fucked the community over and you expect sympathy? I was overjoyed when I saw you and those idiots got banned permanently, get absolutely fucked. No need for scum at the highest level of competition, time for you to switch to Overwatch or something.
2016-01-07 09:42
only thing hes sorry about is getting caught. n1 volvo.
2016-01-07 09:48
I was reading all of those comments for a long time. People say that skins destroy CS. Its not about pixels(skins), its about peoples choices and dumb decisions of Valve. All of those decisions are hard and completely different in every single case. For example - steel(ex-IBP) he throwed a match when he was in IBP and he got banned. Then he created a team with mOE (torqued) and he throwed a game with DISMAY (96%-4%). Just imagine how much money they did on those matches. We are not talking about csgolounge only, we are talking about real money bets. Everyone says "there was no such rule back then, blablabla" and everyone who says that is dumb. Kids know that they can't steal because its wrong and players should know this aswell. You stealed from Your fans and from community. Same thing about "swag's" situation. People say he was young and he deserve second chance because he's talented. No1 gives a single f#$k about his talent but I think he deserve a second chance not because he's young. He was faced with a hard choice and has been influenced by older colleagues. He didn't took almost anything from those skins. fxy0 should be banned for 12 months, after this he should be unbannned and be able to play. Valve should give You some type of community-service or something like that. E-sport is big and its still growing. Police/Court should take care of matchfixers in the future. Otherwise we will never know how much money players made on thowing matches. As I said before - every case of any matchfixer is different.
2016-01-07 09:50
read #357 you will like that post, a lot of interessting things. btw. theres a good point why law is not involved ;) you need to know one thing: valve are MASSIVE scumbags themselves... in the end its all about money, as always.
2016-01-07 09:53
#371
sodaH | 
World PRQN 
oh fuk this its tl;dr
2016-01-07 09:51
#372
maoaN | 
CIS maoaN 
fxy0 confessed immediately after the match fixing took place... unlike IBP who even lied about it 2 weeks after. He took the ban like a man with a public apology video! I think if anyone of all the match fixers should get a 2nd chance, its fxy0. I understand that he is upset about how his case was handled because his love and passion for this game is still as great as before. Now if you would take this match and compare it to rL, the "lifetime"" ban is way to much and will not scare any match fixers. They will just be more careful. Alot of mistakes have been made and just by making a precedent case out of this will not stop others from match fixing!! Clear rules would be a much better start. And yes some people deserve a 2nd chance. People that know what they have done wrong. I think he would take any punishement without arguing for 1 second for his mistakes. Cheaters (nobody knows how long or often they cheated) = 2 Years (prob. made XXXX€ in that time by betting) Matchfixers = lifetime ban Volvo should realize that there are alot of greys between black and white. Yes, fxy0 made a huge mistake and I think that nobody knows how much he really regrets that! He instantly made it public and apologized. He was already banned 1 year. He is one of EU's biggest talents. Now if you are a fair judge you would see that he knows exactly what he has done wrong and what he needs to do to make sure something like this can never happen again. Just give this man his deserved 2nd chance and put him on probation!
2016-01-07 09:52
#395
Xyp9x | 
Czech Republic TiLT3x 
+1111
2016-01-07 10:12
+9999
2016-01-07 10:47
What a load of bullshit. I want fxyo to get unbanned but don't purposely obfuscate the circumstances. GMX sold his team out and Epsilon had no choice but to come clean, especially after how harsh the punishment against ibp was.
2016-01-07 14:59
fuck off, you cost me money, now you pay. i dont care
2016-01-07 09:57
Enjoy the consequences of your actions, cheaters, matchfixers, all are the same shit
2016-01-07 09:59
In this statement i will go like this "+fxy0"
2016-01-07 10:02
U stupid as fuck m8. U showed how greedy you are by throwing a game in order to earn some money for urself and in exchange have dozzens of people lose theirs. And u still talk about unjustified ban? GTFO
2016-01-07 10:06
Courage fxyo! I really hope that your ban will be lifted! De tout cœur avec toi ;)
2016-01-07 10:07
Let me say it once more, no one cares, you deserve to be banned, thats it, im not sure are you for real? did you really thought valve would unban you? you are more delusional than kqly tbh
2016-01-07 10:11
As I said to GMX on twitter, make a petition on change.org and get the community to sign it -> send it to valve. It is literally the best (only) way to have any hope of lifting the ban. I want to see them realize that a one-year ban is long enough.
2016-01-07 10:11
valve made childish decision, but who cares its hltv, so rip
2016-01-07 10:11
+1
2016-01-07 11:31
#397
Australia BCP 
i really do hope valve go back to all the match fixing cases and review them. capital punishment isnt justice. using someone as an example for others is not justice. it is possible to be harsh and fair at the same time, and valve is not doing that.
2016-01-07 10:17
Truly feel bad for the effort you spent going to waste but if you are ready to screw over the community even once you are ready for a ban too.
2016-01-07 10:18
i honestly dont see why your ban should be lifted! sure, you are kind of being mistreated in a way, as simple and others are actually abled to play, but that doesnt automatically mean that you should be unbanned. that argument does not follow any logic. you fucked up big time and now you have to pay the price, thats how it goes! its a pity that valve left you in uncertainty for so long but that does not mean the final verdict is not just.
2016-01-07 10:20
I've paid the price ! It's not like i was still playing since last year. They've told me I would have a year ban as a punishment and my case would be reviewed in a year. I mean, after a year, it can't be worse than the initial punishement if i did nothing wrong.
2016-01-07 10:23
you act like you never did anything wrong. if valve thinks that your actions require a harsher punishment than a one year ban, in my eyes that is totaly understandable. what you did was wrong and if the consequence to that is a lifetime ban you will simply have to live with it, no matter how strict it might seem to you.
2016-01-07 10:29
So why didn't they lifetime banned me a year ago ? Why did they set a year ban as a punishment to change it after ? Did they have to investigate more ? Nope. They had everything in their hands. If they've wanted me ban for a year, they just had to do it. But they can't tell me " We can you for a year, we'll review your case after " and then say " Lifetime ban ". If it was that bad a year ago, they would of just ban me for life.
2016-01-07 10:31
Ferme ta gueule et arrête de pleurer. Vas déposer tes CV à intermarché maintenant. T' as voulu jouer ? T' as perdu maintenant dégage.
2016-01-07 10:49
Ca va t'es correct comme mec.
2016-01-07 12:06
u guys made a mistake, yes .. but u missed the best year of CSGO so far - thats hard enough - #freefxy0
2016-01-07 12:38
copy and pasting because i'd really like to see all the csgo personalities stand up and do something against what they have said on their twitters is too harsh just replying to a random comment of yours but Have you considered trying to talk with the ex-iBP players aswell on this? You guys could probably get a lot of community support going, if you looked at the compilation of tweets most csgo personalities, they all were in favor of something not permanent, personally i think missing one more major is more than enough punishment already. But if say you got together with some CSGO personalities who supported you and you getting unbanned in some time rather than never, you could easily fight this, players have HUGE power they just don't realize, the only reason people watch big matches is because of the players and competition and if they aren't happy thats bad for valve
2016-01-07 15:20
life time ban is imo just fin retarded, even in proffesional sports the penalty is not this harsh.
2016-01-07 11:33
Are you moronic. I will link you pages of wages made on bowling NO BALLS in cricket resulting in LIFETIME bans. Grow up idiot.
2016-01-08 08:31
feel better now?
2016-01-08 11:48
#407
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Brazil Waldemar H. 
i understand you maybe epsilon players will be unbanned. fuck IBP
2016-01-07 10:31
Ecoute frère j'pense que ça sert a rien d'en discuter ici avec tout les mongolos d'hltv vaut mieux essayer de faire une sorte de petition sur reddit les americains vont te suivre a 100% puis t'essaye de faire appel de la décision ou un délire comme ça, en tout cas t'as merdé fxy0 mais jte souhaite bon courage leur sentence est trop sévère je vous aurais banni 2 ans pas plus perso, lache pas le steak BIZ
2016-01-07 16:39
hope you get unbanned ... good luck.
2016-01-07 10:25
I want valve to unban you and the ibp guys. Maybe only you. I mean like on epsilon you were such a beast. It's terrible to have a talent go to waste. I wish the best of luck to you man.
2016-01-07 10:30
"It was a career mistake. It destroys all my years of investment in the eSsport. All these years, training hard to be able to compete with the best. All these years I played every game and I gave everythingg with honor, with only one desire, i didn't want to disapoint the community. All those years swept away in a second, is this fair ?" And then you bet for a fucking 100 euros? Seriously if you were not banned for this bet you should be banned for stupidity.
2016-01-07 10:33
#412
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Finland coswell 
Valve and CSGO are still years behind the other big eSport titles (decades behind real sports). They should draw out clear guidelines and rules. Its a matter of time, that a team gets banned permanently for using a glitch in-game or something. I understand that this makes it very clear: Valve does not allow matchfixing or exploits. Its clear that these two matchfixing cases were just handled like this to make it an example. This type of showcases might work, but its not the right way to handle it in my opinion. I understand that most fans think of this as justice, but the fans are mostly 15yr old kids,. Some lost their weekly allowances on the fixed matches. Yes, its sad. But! Even if it was against every moral guideline: There was no rulebook for any of it.
2016-01-07 10:33
I really don't like fxy0 but man .. That's so unfair what happened to him and the IBP & Epsi guys. Vave are complete retards and have been wrong every decisions they've made (Majors group stage format and prizepool, Updates, R8 ...) and now this, you've been waiting all this time for nothing .. I really hope tournament organisers won't follow Valve's decision and fxy0 you have all my support bro.
2016-01-07 10:36
so fucking unfair
2016-01-07 10:43
Valve are retarded with setting a LIFETIME BAN on matchbetting, as it was new for the community at the time. There is such a nonchalant move by Valve, it's obviously all about the money. They dont want people to have the chance to earn money through other members in the community, or maybe themself more? Of course they dont want that. So now, is the right way to show an example for both iBP and ex.Epsilon by banning them for LIFE? No, at the time there was no rules, therefore you cannot by common sense set a LIFETIME ban, it's shocking HOW they have the power to do it. If the community will not stick together in this kind of actions, we will never have any control of the outcome of other topics. We have seen a few PROPLAYERS that have questioned Valves decision, THAT IS WHAT IS NEEDED. But what I dont like, is that im not seeing any actions by those who REALY can make a difference, those you hear through your eyes and ears all the time you watch this game: Anders,Semmler,Sadokist,HenryG,Thorin,RichardLewis,SirScoots just to name a few. If they talk and discuss the matter seriously so that people hear and understand how serious this is, people will discuss it even more. Its the ego talking from many of us in the community, "I lost $150 during the game, ruin their life I WOULDNT CARE".... Posts like this are just so RETARDED...... I mean HOW DO YOU WANT THE COMMUNITY TO BE FORMED FOR THE FUTURE IN CSGO and ESPORTS? I'm sorry for my english, but I hope that you'll see where im getting at. We need to stay together in the community, otherwise they'll always control the outcome of whatever. And should it be like that in the future? Or are y'all little Kim Jong-Un's? Of course they should be banned 1year,2 years maybe and made to pay money back. But it cannot have the rules set afterwards and say: NO WE ARE THE BIG GUYS, WE CAN DO WHATEVER WE WANT TO. WE DESTROY THESE PEOPLES LIFE. Did they know that this would happen? No Was the rules set of what would happen? No TRY TO SEE THE BIGGER PICTURE, NOT THAT THIS IS JUST A LITTLE GAME, cause it is not... Esport is the future and many of us know it already. Do we want the righthand raised and everybody listens? Or do we want a community where we all can have our voice heard? We in the community set the rules, we are the majority.
2016-01-07 10:44
lol who cares, volvo made skins for us xd
2016-01-07 10:45
#FREEFXY0 #FREEFXY0
2016-01-07 10:46
#FREEFXY0 #FREEFXY0
2016-01-07 10:47
Throwers should be banned for life. Enjoy your life without majors, throwerboy =) Go and do something nice with your life, stop playing video games produced for kids :) you should be happy that volvo saved your life!
2016-01-07 10:48
you have done shit. no go and get a job in supermarket.
2016-01-07 10:53
I'd say that 100% you didn't deserve ban for a lifetime, 1year would be enaugh and that's it since valve didn't have any rules about match fixing etc not like other sports which have their rules and team rules as well. I feel really bad for you to be honest since I remember you till this day, how well you played and how passionate you were about the game. Of course match fixing is wrong what you did, but I agree about what you said, lifetime ban isn't humanly correct to do espesially if you actually only had 1 fixed match and you didn't decline that you didn't cheat, but actually made a video about the issue and apologized which actually looked really true judging by how you spoke and looked. Wish you the best of luck in the future whether it is in cs or irl ;)
2016-01-07 10:53
Just fuck off and your name and honor does not go in the same sentence. First they dont give a fuck about the community and then they cry and say they gaved evrything for the community. Your a selfish prick who had alot but it wasnt enough so you needed to scam yhe people who support you.
2016-01-07 10:54
exaggerated decision from valve
2016-01-07 10:54
The problem about this Whole thing is that there were no rules, but because there were no rules I believe that Valve will take your team and make an example for others. If this is the case I don't see them changing any verdict.
2016-01-07 10:54
A life time ban for professional players that have put so many years into their training is wrong if you ask me.. Sure these guys all fucked up and they do deserve a ban and / or a fine.. Valve have clearly done this to make sure that match fixing is prevented as everyone knows how serious the consequences are but there will always be people who do it. Those of us who care will try our best to get Valve to modify the punishment they have set but if I were you I'd start planning my life for a future without csgo..
2016-01-07 10:54
If 'integrity' were their main concern here, would banning csgolounge not be also in order? A website that permits underage gambling. They're willing to turn a blind eye to that purely because of the viewers it brings...
2016-01-07 10:55
every "thrower" from last year shoud be unbanned. But from now on a throw = lifetime ban.
2016-01-07 10:56
#1091
maoaN | 
CIS maoaN 
+1
2016-01-08 09:12
You should have thought about the possibility of recieving a life-time ban before you did what you did.
2016-01-07 10:58
So if i stealing $100 then should i punished for life? Thats so fucking stupid dude
2016-01-07 15:14
Your sorry you got caught, not because you knew it was wrong.
2016-01-07 11:04
Im 50/50 on the ban/unban topic but the one year wait time just to tell you they won't lift it was a dick move by valve.
2016-01-07 11:10
Undeserved, keep it up. Things can change, especially if you try.
2016-01-07 11:14
I don't know and can't decide what's the right punishment for throwing a game. I just know it's pathetic from Valve to need one year to release a blog post that takes 5 minutes to write. That's a fucking joke.
2016-01-07 11:14
#462
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Turkey ramowarr 
you are in my hearth <3 fxy0
2016-01-07 11:15
Get over yourself. You fucked up and got caught, it's your own fault.
2016-01-07 11:18
I just love the fact how Valves logic works. They banned you for a year (and the rest of Epsilon team) in order for you to understand your mistakes n stuff, and then, after almost 1 year passes, and they spit in your face and say that the ban is permanent. The logic is strong in this one. Anyway, you can still play in non-Valve sponsored events, so you still can compete, if I'm correct? Right?
2016-01-07 11:18
I don't understand lifetime bans at all. 1-2 years is appropriate imo.
2016-01-07 11:21
If it would be GTR, Valve would have banned you just for a year and let you recover right after that, ul u're not GTR ...
2016-01-07 11:23
GTR wouldn't do that in the first place...
2016-01-07 12:10
#720
Sweden BBW 
tbh it doesn't really matter does it?
2016-01-07 13:26
#976
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North America Medusza 
It doesn't matter if you hold GTR to some high moral standard and say that he would never throw. If he was playing on a lower level team and making less money that many people who's to say that he wouldnt. Valve are shitters who don't know how to run a fucking esport.
2016-01-07 19:36
Keep the ban.
2016-01-07 11:23
the point of fxy0 is that, if really valve waited 1 year, just to say ' Hey ! you're now banned for life' it's just unfair at all, they should've say in the couple of days after the match fixing...1 week or 2 are enough to make a decision about this, but 1 year, and after that a perm. BAN ? it's totally stupid ! EDIT: and since Valve don't use specific and basic rules, they don't have the right to judge this in that way, make rules first and everyone is responsible of what he's doing !!
2016-01-07 11:27
xoxo
2016-01-07 11:27
the judge has its jury and that's us the people who put money into the sport, and pros the people who know the players and game better then anyone else, we should have say in this as well.
2016-01-07 11:27
I think that if Valve banned them for a year at the time, it was a fast decision because they didn't know what to do as thoses guys where "pro" players. Now Valve had the time to think about it, probably took them 5 minutes to find a punishment to make sure no more 20yo geek would want to try that again. Valve makes millions with this game, they don't care about banning 10/15 guys, we will be replace by a few thousands kids in the next months. Its not like fxyo's ban was their top topic during their weekly meeting when they have to choose how to make even more money with thoses kid's life & pocket money.
2016-01-07 11:31
I understand the hate surrounding the fact that Epsilon members were involved in Matchfixing and i know what it feels like to lose money in this way. I'm okay with certain types of punishments regarding this unprofessional behavior (yes, there weren't any rules at the time since the playerbase wasn't huge, but it's still unprofessional), may it be a fine (just like in football, or handball as he stated) or a temporary ban. But the fact that Valve took a whole Year to even take a look at this case, deeming it unworthy of reviewal FOR A WHOLE WHOPPING YEAR, leaving a whole bunch of pro players uncertain about their future in esports (and their personal lives as well, since it's their first source of revenue) makes me sick. Not all of these pros can stream, or make content daily to earn revenue, which makes this case too unfair. It sickens me even more when they didn't even consult the players or the community to know how they should react to the case, instead they use the banhammer and consider the case closed. Many of us have forgotten the shit that we lost when the matchfixing occured, and i seriously dont give a fuck about my loss. I would prefer losing that shit, have Valve make this case an example of how pros shouldn't behave, but still have these players play in majors. Valve is losing so much in this case it's incredible, they could use the fact that some of these people are viewed as idols by the community to monteize their game even more, or simply make the playerbase bigger (since wherever there's talent, there has to be a bunch of spectators). Sad to see this shit happen when there are still teams out there who profit from the fact that some matches are broadcasted after they ended (e.g. VirtusPro). Sorry if i RIPed London, not my primary language.
2016-01-07 11:34
Yes mate. That would be great idea if valve look to community instead of making stupid decision based on what they see. I mean i couldnt understand valve logic to wait 1 year to review the ban and then change the ban.
2016-01-07 15:47
#492
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Denmark Fr0nda 
Cant you go to court with this? There were no rules
2016-01-07 11:35
#730
Sweden BBW 
No man you got it wrong. Then it would be a REAL SPORTS. Valve obviously don't want CS:GO to be considered ANY kind of sports.
2016-01-07 13:30
You are an adult be a man and take the consequences for your actions. Stop fucking crying and do something els with your time
2016-01-07 11:37
How can you ask a pro player who dedicated his youth to a game, to just fuck off and start another career elsewhere ? That's like asking a hobo to stop begging, fetch a suit and go get a job.
2016-01-07 11:40
He has made his own choices in life, if he dedicated his life and youth to gameing and he decide trow it away like that, then he is a idiot, He should be happy he don't face legal actions.
2016-01-07 13:10
Guys, why are you looking at the debate the other way around ? I'm not saying that he SHOULDNT get punished, but rather that he should get an adequate punishment. Ok, he made a mistake, should he get a lifetime ban ? no Should they fine him + ban him for a certain period of time ? Yes ! That would be the fucking solution to all of our problems. - fxy0 gets to play again - he can think about the shit he did (which he probably did during the past year) - Gaben gets fat stacks of scrilla
2016-01-07 13:17
1year ban isnt enough for this kind of fraud, then he can keep doing it and get filthy
2016-01-07 13:24
I think that even 1 year is way too much, 1 year can end carriers. Proper response would be cash fine + skip next major or two.
2016-01-07 11:37
Are you retarded or just 15yo? Match fixing should be punished hard! In any other sport they would face legal charges and probably jailtime. They should be happy this don't happen yet in esport
2016-01-07 13:33
Judging by your comment you'r the one 15yo (i would guess 21-23?). For offence to be punishable you have to have law in place for the governing body. That law needs to be reflected in contracts teams and players sign. The fact that they broke moral bounds in compare sent to laws in other sports, does not instantly apply them here (but you will do so anyway i know). All this is one sided initiative by valve on a personal level, that's nothing to do with legality. Do you know why they don't put fines on those players or leagues or teams? Because there is no law to break with Valve. They broke rules of CSGO lounge yes, maybe even rules with their team and tournament they were playing for, but that all depends on the contracts and internal rules, if there's no rule you can't process anything legally.
2016-01-07 15:13
The law is There And for him to be banned for only 1 year it's damn profitable to be scamming and fixing matches
2016-01-07 15:43
#496
denis | 
Nepal sawnnd 
I've played a MM against you like 2 years a ago. FeelGoodMan btw, tldr
2016-01-07 11:37
Nice wake up after a year of sitting on your azz doing nothing to try to convince people that your not a retarded thief.
2016-01-07 11:39
#503
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Romania dEkO.O 
He did make a video right after he got banned apologizing to everyone. The reason he didn't do anything else until now is because he probably thought that he will be unbanned after 1 year.
2016-01-07 11:46
Impressive, thats probably more than rest of cunt pack did. I still can't believe that he just thought: 1 year will pass, everyone will forget, i will just casually find a new org that will pay me salary. Who the fk would pay a single dollar for him?
2016-01-07 11:50
#512
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Romania dEkO.O 
He didn't hope that everyone would forget about it. He hoped that Valve would unban him because they said the ban will be reviewed after 1 year.
2016-01-07 11:54
Yeah, and then what? Who the fk would want to form a team with a thief?
2016-01-07 11:55
#523
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Romania dEkO.O 
He is in a team called Millenium and they will play today. Probably even Titan would've wanted to sing him once he got unbanned seeing shox's reaction on twitter after Valve announced that they will be banned permanently.
2016-01-07 11:58
Really? What a fking facepalm. Read my #527. Well then, time to ban myself from watching Millenium.
2016-01-07 12:03
How can you be so salty about something that happened in the early stages of csgo ? People change after an entire year of thinking about a fucked up mistake they did. The point here is that valve promised to take a look at the case after 2015 was over. But they reviewed the case without even consulting the players concerned aka took a whole year to say what they could have said a week/month after the shit hit the fan.
2016-01-07 11:55
How am i salty? 1. If they would just outright admit that they threw after being accused MAYBE the punishment wouldn't be so hard. 2. If they would contact valve employees or convince community, repay skins for charity or something punishment DEFINITELY would be less severe. That's only their idiocy that earned them that ban. Now they cry tears of innocent kids? What the hell, how naive are you to believe it? They did NOTHING entire year beside of streaming and taking more money from subscribing kids that felt sorry for them.
2016-01-07 12:00
#539
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Romania dEkO.O 
You're talking about ex-IBP here, not fxy0. He admitted that he threw right away and i think he was the only player to publicly apologize but he still got the same punishment as ex-IBP.
2016-01-07 12:06
Well then, he is 50% less of a scumbag than them. What an achievement.
2016-01-07 12:12
#559
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Romania dEkO.O 
50% less of a sumbag but he still got the same punishment as them. Does that seem right?
2016-01-07 12:15
Yes because they did the same thing? Of course not in the eyes of law, but i'm not obligated to listen to it judging my own opinion.
2016-01-07 12:17
#570
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Romania dEkO.O 
Yeah, he did the same thing but on a much smaller scale. Someone who kills 1 person doesn't get as much time in prison as someone who killed 20 people.
2016-01-07 12:20
Of course not in the eyes of law, but i'm not obligated to listen to it judging my own opinion. And they both deserve death punishment, not prison.
2016-01-07 12:21
Oh because you think that Valve would even listen to them ? iBP players tried to contact Valve but they didn't answer to shit. All they wanted to do was end the case real quick. fxy0 released a video admiting what he did, did it change anything, nope. Valve is just a greedy company trying to get rid of any stains that could deteriorate their reputation, which fucking sucks for pros like fxy0 who dedicated their entire youth to their game.
2016-01-07 12:25
What the hell, how naive are you to believe it?
2016-01-07 12:26
To believe what ? That valve didn't even care about contacting the players ? They didn't, every single player affected tried doing it but they dont give a fuck. Try getting vac banned and contact Valve to take it away because 'it was a msitake'. You'll probably get an automated message or whatever. I'm not saying that what they did wasn't wrong, but the way Valve handled the situation IS WRONG, it's fucked up even.
2016-01-07 12:29
So players can make a crime but valve can't make a mistake in PR department. K den. What the hell, how naive are you to believe it?
2016-01-07 12:30
Keep using the term naive, i don't think you know the true definition of the word. Players are individuals bound to make mistakes (every fucking one of us, don't even dare telling me the contrary, even Jesus probably had a load of Bitches in his home while his disciples weren't looking) But Valve on the other had is a multi-million (or billion ?) Company. As a company people check each others work to see if any mistakes are done. The fact that they handled it like a Kebab store next-door would handle my order is humiliating.
2016-01-07 12:40
Then stop playing valve games/using steam/write an open letter to Gaben/sue them/don't be a bitch. We knew from 1.fking5 that valves judgement is bad and that they don't intend to change.
2016-01-07 12:43
That's like sueing Mark Zuckerberg because you 'accidentally' posted pornography on Facebook and got a lifetime ban. Facebook won't give a shit, The judge won't give a shit either because it's you (who ??) vs freaking Mark Zuckerberg. Case closed, you aren't winning the case no matter what you're sueing him for.
2016-01-07 13:00
Well then stop playing valve games/using steam/write an open letter to Gaben/don't be a bitch. Still many choices for you left.
2016-01-07 13:01
I don't see how wanting justice/a adequate punishment is 'Being a Bitch'. You can't just stop playing Valve games when that's what your life revolves around (aka Earning the scrilla). And you can't pursue another career when as easily as that.
2016-01-07 13:04
Lel so if someone is at some point CS player it means that they didn't/can't/are incapable of work a single hour in real job? Hell m8, he can even still become a fking astronaut. Only if he would stop playing innocent and move on focusing all that time he spent in cs onto pursuing other dream.
2016-01-07 13:11
No offence to any pro players, but a lot of them quit school/university before getting a diploma. CS has become their main source of income atm
2016-01-07 13:20
I think the 1 year ban was fair, but perma ban is too much IMO. I'm nearly certain that none of the people who was cought matchfixing would do that shit ever again. Only reason for this permaban is kids crying about loosing skins that they shouldn't bet in the first place.
2016-01-07 11:46
tbh this guy has a point in...Im judedged even there wher eno rules about that thats true how can you get a life time ban or evne punished for something that wasnt written down? Ofc I was mad about the iBP and matchfixing in general thing but Valve is being bullshit about allot. They let 99999 people cheat everyday do a ban wave now and then to let them buy new accounts to get more money but a guy like fxy0 or swag gets banned for life for this? no comment
2016-01-07 11:47
TLDR enjoy your bans. But I do think they are quite silly giving such harsh bans for matchfixers when there are more of them, and ppl like fnatic/envy cheating their ass off in majors and 0 consequence.
2016-01-07 11:49
people who use the excuse "there were no rules in place" deserved to be punished... its like "yeah i stabbed him. but there is no rule in the rulebook which says i cant kill people to win a 1v1 in the grandfinal" (because its common sense you dont do such things... when people cant understand this.. faith in humanity lost (again)) you knew in the first place that losing on purpose is wrong.. high risk high reward... you placed your carrer.. and you lost the gamble.. gg no re.
2016-01-07 11:53
I really feel sorry for you, you were so honest and sorry for your mistakes and even promised to do everything to change into a better person during the 1 year ban. Valve really handled it poorly and it's really sad losing a TOP20 player. I hope you comeback !
2016-01-07 11:52
#511
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India rohansamal 
You cheated. You were banned . Deal with it
2016-01-07 11:53
I think you are right with : "Valve can not be the judge and the jury." For me it's time to create a sort of federation. With a 5-10$ subscription fee (for a year), any player can be officially part of the community with some right. Like the possibility to participate in referendum in case something like that append, to be sure that a majority will be listened. (like an overwatch case) They can even give an in game coin, upgradable with community "action", and use the subscription money to increase the major price pool or do anything community related. By the way i really like you as a player and i hope i will see you in future events Courage ! PS: Sorry if my english is bad/poor.
2016-01-07 11:54
You have my full support. Hope you get unbanned
2016-01-07 11:55
Wall mart vs a bank job? Its the bad conduct/motive that you paid the price for, not the amount, proven or otherwise. Second chances come to picture once you've done something, why not think about it beforehand? I'm not saying you should not be unbanned, but that these arguments will never hold, small mistake or not.
2016-01-07 11:57
yOU HaVe To PaY FoR wHAt YoU dId so PeOpLE ARe DIsSuADDeD FRoM DoInG iT. i WoUlD HaVE doNE tHe SAmE as VaLVe iF iT woULd havE beEn My dEcIsIoN.
2016-01-07 11:57
yOU HaVe To PaY FoR wHAt YoU dId so PeOpLE ARe DIsSuADDeD FRoM DoInG iT. i WoUlD HaVE doNE tHe SAmE as VaLVe iF iT woULd havE beEn My dEcIsIoN.
2016-01-07 12:09
lmao get rekt. Absolute no tolerance is the best way for valve to go with this issue and i support their decision 100%. Maybe you and others shouldnt have been so greedy little shits on the first place. You dont have to be a fucking genius to realize what u were about to do would most likely destroy your csgo career if u'd get caught. Now all of you are paying to price for it.
2016-01-07 11:59
Don't compare the money earned, Valve doesn't care about the skins you got for match-fixing. The offense here is to throw a match, that's the offense. Regardless of how much you earn the impact of the offense is the same, it throws away all the credibility of professional e sport, and understandably so, in Valve's eyes, it's the worst thing you could have done along cheating. There is nothing surprising in the sentence, I don't get the fuss.
2016-01-07 12:03
You sound so silly boy. The higher they profit on their scam the higher the penalty should be.
2016-01-07 13:40
mfw i see people commenting "You fucked up, You were banned, Deal with it". You're not even contributing to the debate so gtfo. We all did stupid shit in CS, whether it was knifing that Cyka Blyat in an MM because you hate him, leading to your teams loss or Rage quitting during a game because you simply dont give a fuck anymore. Either way, these stupid acts have repercussions on the rest of the community (your teammates lose because of you, derank, whatever). But what happens to you, as the guy who fucked up ? You get a 24h/7d/1month ban. That's how Valve should have reacted, give a cash fine, a temporary ban, whatever's just towards the affected players & the whole community...
2016-01-07 12:03
It's not a debate? People on hltv doesn't want to debate. People thats writing "you fucked up, you were banned, deal with it" is actually the few people in this thread that is right. HE fucked up, HE needs to take the punishment, HE should have considered the possibilities of getting a lifetime before he threw a 55-45 game, and earned him around 100$ (was it worth it fxy0?)
2016-01-07 12:45
It's not a debate purely because Valve said so ? You want to continue bootlicking their filthy shoes after all the shitstorm they went trhough ? He fucked up just the way you and anybody else fucked up when they shit their pants as a kid, when you broke your best friends toy on purpose because you threw a tantrum, when you stole that lollipop from the bakery even though it costs only 10 cents. You dont hand a lifetime prison sentence to all of those situations, you handle each situation accordingly and punish them depending on what they did. I don't care if fxy0 won 100 or 100.000$ out of the throw, what i'm saying is that a lifetime ban from one of his major revenue incomes is WAY TOO harsh and that waiting a year to lift the ban hammer is RIDICULOUS
2016-01-07 12:53
From valves' side its not up for debate, thats correct. Doesn't matter whether he stole 10$, 100$ or 10.000$, throwing should, and is thankfully a permanent ban from valves' tournaments. Fxyo is a grown man, not a 12 year old. So your examples is literally invalid. He should have thought about the consequences BEFORE he threw a match. He easily could say to his team "no guys, I don't want to throw a match, thats ridicilous". Instead, he throws a match, gets banned, and apologies. Lol bitch please. Hope you stay banned for a good while fxy0 :)
2016-01-07 13:05
They only recently decided that it's worth a permanent ban. They can always rethink it. I hope they implement this kind of reasoning into MM as well : "You killed a teammate on purpose for the first time ? Hot dayum, lifetime ban for you son.Now now, don't go crying a river because you lost all your skins"
2016-01-07 13:12
Personally I dont play that much mm, works for me.
2016-01-07 13:14
"Yes I am judged, banned for life, while no rules were in place." if you need rules to dont act like a douche you should not be unban.
2016-01-07 12:06
Savage...
2016-01-07 12:06
I agree with some of what fxy0 says but realistically I don't think anyone can be surprised that they got indefinitely banned though. Do people make mistakes? Yeah sure they do. Do people know when they are making a huge mistake? Sometimes yes sometimes no... but throwing for skins is pretty fuckn black and white obvious. It sucks that there were not any rules in place before it happened and the players had to find out without any history of what the consequences could be. But I highly doubt we will EVER see a pro player / team throw a match and risk there career on it. I am sad that we won't get to see a lot of the greater talent pool such as iBP & fxy0 play again, but when you do something like this you deal with the shit that comes with it if you get caught
2016-01-07 12:08
U definitely deserve a lifetime ban. There were a lot of people buying skins with their own money and the way they lose them is a terrible way. Its not only the "100" dollars u recieve as winnings,i doubt its only 100 but okay. I hope ur lifetime ban wont be pulled out. P.S. i lost no skins, and fu*ck u man, u are not needed in this community.
2016-01-07 12:08
#549
GuardiaN | 
Sweden kvNr 
i feel you buddy, but ibp were distined to be permanently banned, and it would be so unfair if you guys were unbanned, but those remained permanently banned. Though i might agree that a lifetime ban is a little bit to rough. But maxfixing is still a shitty thing to do.
2016-01-07 12:09
Valve is just a bunch of morons, they dont want to think so they just ban instantly. Its sad that cheating is compared to match fixing.
2016-01-07 12:09
Gl my friend
2016-01-07 12:12
Do you srsly belive that we just give a single fuck about what you want? You had no respect for professional integrity and therefore should be punished. You decided to fuck over the community, deal with the consequences.
2016-01-07 12:13
im with you man. volvo is such a stupid company that they are interest only to how will get more money from kids with skins that why they not stop that gabling shit and they support it. coz that kids lost skins and they going again buy it new and that cycle continues rip my english hope you to unban or to find a team that will play all leagues exept major tournaments. hope cevo, faceit, esea, pgl isnt braindead like volvo and will let you that space that you want to keep compete
2016-01-07 12:14
#558
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Portugal Zedonp 
Valve is only banning you for life to set a example. Imo you choose the worst time to throw, you guys were the first to do it and get caught and for that you take the full punishment. I don't think valve will role back on this after the statment they did. I know your story is diferent to swag and comp. I belive a 2year ban would be enough for you but for swag and comp that tried to cheat and trick the community even after all evidence was presented at least a 4years or life time ban is the good punishment
2016-01-07 12:14
It's not whether you throw for 5$, 50$ or 50000$, it's about the fact that you threw. Integrity is never about the money itself, but the principle. The only part money has played here was it being used as evidence of claims that you lost the game on purpose. It was a career mistake. It destroys all my years of investment in the eSsport. All these years, training hard to be able to compete with the best. All these years I played every game and I gave everythingg with honor, with only one desire, i didn't want to disapoint the community. All those years swept away in a second, is this fair ? It is FAIR. The only person that you can blame is yourself. You decided to destroy your career the moment you decided to throw that game. Nothing made you. You made you. Even with no rules in place, did you think that losing for monetary gain wasn't something that would come to haunt you later? We all pay for our mistakes. Valve technically lived up to their word. They said they wouldn't REVIEW bans before 2016 which they didn't do. It's beginning of 2016 so techinally, they did review it now and made their decision. REVIEW does not equal UNBAN. Your story might be tragic, you might have had the talent and you might have ended up in a top team if you didn't decide to throw it all away. Rules apply to everyone, regardless of how good or how young they are.
2016-01-07 12:18
someone understands. is this real life?
2016-01-07 12:20
#600
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Portugal Zedonp 
Yep this is a good explanation. IMO life bans are too harsh but valve is setting examples and there is always heavy punishments for the first.
2016-01-07 12:34
#565
RpK | 
France Hoodk1ngz 
Fxy0, tossers get a lifeban, cheaters dont get banned. I think this sums it all
2016-01-07 12:18
fxyo had like 1-3 vaced css account
2016-01-07 12:21
#935
RpK | 
France Hoodk1ngz 
didn't know that but you feel me, what's worse, flusha's obvious cheats in the old days (don't think he's still cheating), or guys who threw a game for money/skins ?
2016-01-07 18:35
want to return my skins and ill forgive you?
2016-01-07 12:23
i think a majority of the community can agree that a year ban for match fixing is enough, and ur ban should be lifted. i hope it is
2016-01-07 12:23
I was a fan of fxyo since he and shoxie played together and both was thirty bombing everygame. Fxyo is world class awper, and its really a shame that he gets banned for life. I hope community and more famous people from the scene could do something about it, maybe reach some agreement. Reverse of the update shows that valve is listening to community, there is hope!
2016-01-07 12:25
I'm okay with the lifetime ban, personally. BUT, making you hope that your ban will get lifted for a WHOLE YEAR is an insanely dick move by Valve.
2016-01-07 12:26
yep they slapped him with a huge baguette in the face :D
2016-01-07 13:21
Well that's a tough decision but Valve has the right to do it. You are loosing your time they won't change their mind.
2016-01-07 12:28
Nobody cares
2016-01-07 12:28
...says Mr Answer #589.
2016-01-08 00:31
Can we Ip ban this cunt too?
2016-01-07 12:29
Can sympathize with the writer.. I feel Valve could've just gave them a warning after the 1 year ban OR + another year to their ban this time, when there wasn't even an official rule set yet. For future they could've just said that match fixing will be causing a permanent ban from now on. I know they did wrong (all of the players), i know they knew they did wrong when they did it, but still, I get a weird feeling that Valve once again miss uses their authority and power and fails solve this situation with true wisdom. Cant help but feel that Valve took the easy way out here (once again) instead of really getting into fighting against match fixing. Its the same kind of act they do with cheating. Sure they give bans, but they fail to really work VAC and create security to the scene. It's causing a lot of questioning and hate in the scene. The easy way out is trying to control with fear instead acknowledging the problem and working through it themselves. The opinions would probably be split whatever Valve would do but I think grace is the more mature way to go. Sad day for the community. Good luck with trying to communicate with Valve, it has been proved to be hard.
2016-01-07 12:29
#595
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Europe Pl4yed 
Considering the case I think here in particular there was no justice done. It is painfully obvious Valve didn't give this thought and certainly didn't review this as a separate case. There are many points in your defense which should influence the ban to be 1-2 years at most. Hope you gather enough support for them to properly review this, good luck.
2016-01-07 12:31
One year is enough, but Valve is a company the only thing they care about is to make money. Why do you think they made the R8 for example? New weapon equals new skins which leads to more money. They dont give a crap about the community, and they only use the pros for publicity. They want to keep Counter Strike big, and for this they need big organisations that sign teams, if there is any incidents that would make organisations get scared or doubt the professionalism in the CS scene they would have to take action. They only care about publicity, they dont give a crap about if a small group of people will get banned for life, they dont want to take any risks that may lead to organisations not being intrested in signing teams.
2016-01-07 12:33
fxy0 should be unbanned, he was far more entertaining and less misérables than the murcans.
2016-01-07 12:33
lol
2016-01-07 12:34
bay bay !!!! love valve
2016-01-07 12:36
[*]
2016-01-07 12:38
TL;DR Anyway, I think life ban is good enough for your kind. If a person kill another, they will die as a murder. The same logic works with you. Got advantage through some illicit way, now deal with it. Be a decent man at least once. Once a piece of shit, always a piece of shit. Best regards.
2016-01-07 12:40
I understand fxy0s point and I think a lifetime ban on him is too harsh. Here is my 10 cents on why you can't compare iBPs case and fxy0s. First of all, iBPs case was deliberate and involved so much more people. The orchestration of that throw alone is almost in proportion to blow up as one of the biggest scandals in e-Sports, ever. First of all, you have DaZeD and Casey who were the two owners of Netcode Guides. The same company also sponsored the CS team NCI that iBP were playing against. So in one end you have the owners who are deliberately influencing an entire team. The same DaZeD was also the leader and IGL of the iBP CS Team where he also could influence his players and talking them into throwing the game. I think a lifetime ban is deserved in this case to set an example. Else you would have owners of entire eSports organizations capitalizing on things like these. DaZeD was a man with power, power over his opponents (who were marketed and sponsored by his company) and his team (that he captained) and he utilized that to full extent by orchestrating the throw together with his co-owner Casey. In fxy0s case he is just a player. Should players take the same punishment as owners & captains who have much more influence over their peers? A 1 year ban is enough for a guy like fxy0. Money and responsibility have to be taken into account here. Did Valve ever investigate into what sort of responsibility each player had? How much money they made on the throw? Why were some players still allowed to play the game and others not?
2016-01-07 12:43
I don't see you talking about the money little kids don't get back. That tell us you are a selfish prick who only thinks about yourself. You're only talking about your investment in CS blablablabla. In the world of soccer/football/tennis/golf or any other professional sports scene you will get a life ban. Your little story about handball, pff, get the fuck outta here boy. GOOD BYE IDIOT
2016-01-07 12:45
i feel you
2016-01-07 12:45
#624
NiKo | 
Poland Jaruzel 
The worst part about this is that you've waited a year thinking that they will unban you and then it turns out they were lying. Feels bad man :(
2016-01-07 12:45
How the fuck valve was lying? Plz explain
2016-01-07 13:08
And have you seen this e-mail? Since fxy0 and ibp posted that after one year there will be one more REVIEW, not ban lift. How you can call them liers?
2016-01-07 14:28
#941
NiKo | 
Poland Jaruzel 
Isn't this enough? fxy0 said: "Hello everyone, today i received an email from Valve in which it is explained that we are banned 1 year from every Valve tournament." So from this text you can say that the ban has an expiration date. Or do you suggest that fxy0 was lying?
2016-01-07 19:00
"When i've accepted my one year ban, Valve certified that my case would be reviewed in 2016 " You see "reviewed" word? One year ago you have read incomplete msg from volvo. fxy0 gave you only this part of msg, which he thought was "the most interesting". Imo they thought that they will get unbanned whatever will happen.
2016-01-07 19:12
fxyo ban for 100 EUR, and flusha earning 200k EUR/year and still not banned for cheating NICEEEE JOB VOLVO
2016-01-07 12:46
flusha is not cheating, fxy0 and all the other guys who got ban don't deserve this ban
2016-01-07 12:59
flusha the real king
2016-01-07 13:23
You pay for your greed. You deserve it. Stop whining, uninstall the game and seek your career elsewhere.
2016-01-07 12:48
+1
2016-01-07 12:48
karma is a bitch isn't it matey
2016-01-07 12:49
i feel you man, i think that it is unfair
2016-01-07 12:50
#643
Estonia rYm 
fair game or ban - very simple
2016-01-07 12:52
In my opinion, a year isn't enough, a lifetime ban is too harsh. Valve kind of fucked up too, turning the throwers to victims, getting a part of the community against themselves. Even though their actions most certainly will decrease match-throwing in CS:GO, which is a desirable thing for the community. Most of the sympathizers forget this while raging at Valve in their righteousness-fever.
2016-01-07 12:53
are you teh real studlock from a.v.a?
2016-01-07 15:33
Nope.
2016-01-07 15:49
try not to throw matches in your next life /close
2016-01-07 12:54
#662
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Syria MalakMaestro 
+1
2016-01-07 12:59
Omg, the crying is unreal from you guys! The ban has been set, get over it! It's fair and we dont want cheaters and liars like you in the community ever again! Start another career and get lost! Bye!
2016-01-07 13:01
Nobody in this community wants you in it, your childish and immature with no bearing on the real world. Please leave and get lost! Bye!
2016-01-07 13:14
Mad because your favourite players are banned? Cry yourself to sleep at night? Fucking child! There are alot of potential stars on the rise. Pushing cheaters out of the way for new talent is just good. We really dont need idiots like they are in the pro scene.
2016-01-07 13:19
He is mad because he will never make it in anything and wants to bring others down on his level. The crab in the bucket in real in this one.
2016-01-07 13:19
It boggles my mind how they can fuck up csgo as a competitive game, but still make this kind of marketing decisions to make csgo looks so serious and esports and sheit. Not even talking of the fact they're massive phonies regarding betting websites. You might end up getting leagues support though
2016-01-07 13:01
#982
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North America Medusza 
They Crack down on match fixing in csgo so people think valve actually cares about csgo and puts work into it. In reality they are the biggest setback for csgo. They add shitty weapons buffs and nerds regularly which ruins the csgo meta. They consistently fuck up csgo and at this point they shouldn't be given the authority to run an esport. The worker who who never shows up to meetings and makes frequent mistakes is not the person who becomes manager, but valve is that very idiot who has for some reason been given all the power to alter csgo.
2016-01-07 19:43
they should unban him omg
2016-01-07 13:09
#683
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France treyz[V] 
fxy0 I believe that one year is enough, a permanent ban is too hopefully Valve will review your case, I liked your results, hope to see you soon in the e-sports
2016-01-07 13:11
i think you should ve executed #nohomo Keepo
2016-01-07 13:13
It doesnt matter if its 100€ or 100'000$. And I like that Valve is taking it seriously. Bye bye
2016-01-07 13:15
The point is that ex-cheaters like jw and simple can keep on playing and the other point is that sports pros who fixed a match don't get a life ban either.
2016-01-07 13:19
fxy0 is an ex cheater tho :D
2016-01-07 13:45
But no other cheater got life time ban except for the guys who threw for skins.
2016-01-07 13:59
kqly, smn, Sf, emilio?
2016-01-07 14:00
Are you sure the bans are lifetime? I thought they had an expiration date. Even if you were right the reason why I stick up for fyxo and swag is because they had the skill to compete and it would go to waste. I don't really care for someone who uses aimbot since they couldn't compete on a high level without it anyways.
2016-01-07 14:06
i am pretty sure kqly and Sf could compete on high level without a cheat. However I don't think fxy0 would make it if he wasn't cheating in css and start of csgo
2016-01-07 14:07
Fxy0 was never caught cheating on pro matches was he? Given the fact even smithzz and rpk can barely compete I really doubt kqly and sf could if they got an unban.
2016-01-07 14:13
never caught isn't the same as never cheated, remember that
2016-01-07 14:19
I know but he had amazing lan performances. Can you link me or elaborate on fyx0 alleged cheating?
2016-01-07 14:25
#717
Sweden BBW 
You're absolutely right man, it isn't about the amount of money. Weirdly enough it's also not about the act. You can match-fix but if you don't take a reward you don't get banned. Weird logic valve :) Bye bye!!! :)))
2016-01-07 13:25
First, it's not only about the 100€ you got, but for the thousands of dollars that are moved on a game being throwed and therefor wrongly given. If you ask someone who placed maybe 2 or 3 maxbets on your game well, h'd be pretty pissed off. Second: the comparision with murder is just demagogy. You can't compare matchfixing with it. And well, I do think that anyone found guilty of matchfixing deserves to be banned for life the same way a cheater or doping is banned for life. It's changing the result of a match in full knowledge of the fact that what you're making is wrong, it changes the result and is basically a fraud. I'm sorry, but I can't feel pity for those who lie and steal on competitions. I used to play handball in high school, and a couple of friends and I got offered a PS3 (it was the thing back then) and 200€ for throwing a match that would mean our team falling off from play offs and their getting in. And guess what? We rejected it and played our best. Because that's what competition means. Giving your 1005 every match and always trying to be the best. Sure, we might end up losing the game, but if that happened at least it would have been deserved.
2016-01-07 13:20
I completely agree with you. It's a big difference between throwing once and throwing many times. Especially that it's not fair that you had been waiting whole year to be unbanned and then you're getting informed that your ban becomes permanent. I hope that Valve will unban you but I don't really believe in it. It's sad considering how well you had been playing in Epsilon. Interesting thing is that I played with both of you on MMs - with you and GMX. You don't remember it most likely but it was cache - we started on CT side, you were premade with B1GGY and Uzziiii and we were playing against cheaters. The match with GMX was weird. I was happy that I met pro player but then I realised he's the one who destroyed Epsilon. BTW he played in his 5-people premade and they weren't that good.
2016-01-07 13:20
I didint read so -1
2016-01-07 13:21
He can always play CoD and be a huge pro, I guess. I don't get all the drama, unban me, unban me, I won't throw again, please. No one in valve cares, get over it already, you fucked up, they decided it's suitable to ban for life, that's done and dusted, just move on.
2016-01-07 13:25
1 year is enough. They should ban them for life only if they will do it one more time
2016-01-07 13:27
#959
HS | 
Iceland MorsAlbum 
+1 Everyone knows the consequences now. From NOW, anyone who throws should get perm ban.
2016-01-07 19:22
#722
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Spain akproxx 
completely agree fxy0 m8 be strong :(
2016-01-07 13:27
First offence = 1 year, 2 offence = Permanent
2016-01-07 13:28
Absolutely agree
2016-01-07 13:37
All of you who were banned needs to stay banned for ever. Match fixing is too mutch, alot of people lost their skins becouse you threw match away. Shame on you fxy0. You will be banned for ever m8 :))
2016-01-07 13:28
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2016-01-07 13:29
it really looks like you regret whatve you done! :> iam on your side fxyo GL (has to be hard when you waste all the opportunities for a year just w vision of unban and then it turn down like this..)
2016-01-07 13:33
people should get over their pixel losses and give this guy a 2nd chance, he's right in every phrase in this statement and honestly if you've literally been training for years you should really be able to play again after just 100eur of skins '-.-
2016-01-07 13:34
#735
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Latvia Ke]R[4u 
be strong mate, life doesn't end on CS
2016-01-07 13:34
Why the fuck do people keep comparing murder to this shit? You match fixed bro, it has happened in several sports before. The teams that are responsible for doing it are relegated to lower divisions and the responsible people are arrested and fined. Since there are no divisions and CSGO isn't an established e-sports like other sports, I think it's only fair that valve gives you the same treatment they gave to IBP. You are no different from them, you decided it was worth getting skin money over having a professional career and Valve is simply showing you guys how they do not tolerate it and if anyone decides to do it they will be banned from all the tournaments that they sponsor. You tried taking thousands' of people's money. Money they might have invested in skins and now you want to be able to participate in tournaments in which the prize pool is mainly coming from the users of this game? NO FUCKING WAY MATE. You fucked up, deal with it.
2016-01-07 13:39
but there are divisions cevo-p -m etc (the league they threw in, tbh it should really be their decision) esea-pro -premier -main -im - open
2016-01-07 15:17
fact is they can't compete in any of those leagues because they all back what valve has said. let's wait and see what other leagues say about it. edit: but I do see your point
2016-01-07 15:21
well ibp guys are friends with spangler(cevo owner) and already unbanned from pugs, most likely will be allowed to play league esea said they will be unbanned from pugs and few(esea co owner or something) said they'd review being unbanned from league play
2016-01-07 15:23
yea, so far it's all speculation but let's see what decision they make. personally I think they are going to support valve's ban because there is much more to lose for them than to win.
2016-01-07 15:33
When i've accepted my one year ban Like if you had any choice, lol. You kindly accepted your punishment, lol.
2016-01-07 13:40
Let´s be real. Childish and utterly retarded by valve. simple.
2016-01-07 13:43
How is that childish or retarded by valve? Care to elaborate since its so simple?
2016-01-07 14:02
its retarded for that volvo make had to do about how the bettor kids will react if ibp unbanned that make them to be not trust anymore at betting skins on profesional scene. with that reason volvo will lost money from bettors because the will stop to buy skins if they will stop betting lost skins > buy new > bet again thats the circle that volvo made tons of money from community shop rip englando hope that undestand me
2016-01-07 14:39
my brain hurts
2016-01-07 17:11
tl;dr you are crying - learn from this and don't be a cunt
2016-01-07 13:44
are you dumb? theres nothing to learn, lessons are given for them to be followed in the future. for the bans the is no future you dumb fuck
2016-01-07 13:45
life is counterstrike I guess xD xDxD "dumb fuck"
2016-03-03 17:24
#753
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Serbia whoa!! 
:(
2016-01-07 13:44
#756
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Canada McMahon 
sucks
2016-01-07 13:47
Banned for 1 year is enough tbh.. its not they got alot of money from it..
2016-01-07 13:52
good luck fyx0 titan needs you.
2016-01-07 13:54
Valve is trying to state something here, sure there wasnt any rules about it at that time, but you need to stop saying that cause no one is that stupid. Just because there isn't any rules about it doesn't make it okay. But im on your side here, to some extent, permanent ban is to harsh, one year is okay in my eyes, but the second strike better be fucking permanent if thats the case.
2016-01-07 13:55
I agree that a thrower should be punished here, but not a lifetime thought. It's also a bad thing what valve did to resolve the case, banning player and wait 1 year just to decide (like it's a sign of hope) and in the end, disappointment happen. In any other sports match fixing will also result to punishment, but not lifetime..
2016-01-07 14:00
#770
kennyS | 
Estonia BlameS 
committing suicide is the permanent result, in this case its throwing your fans skins on purpose, maybe even making someone commit suicide, perm ban is deserved and you should move on with your life as some other pro.
2016-01-07 14:00
Committing suicide over an AK skin in CSGO means a life not worthy living anyways.
2016-01-07 14:08
The people that still thinks they deserved to be banned lost like 20 euros and their monthly allowance on betting skins. how much?
2016-01-07 14:04
I didn't even use csgolounge when he got banned, so approximately £0.00, I've seen you post this everywhere and it just isn't true.
2016-01-07 14:12
Bye bye m8, enjoy your time off CS.
2016-01-07 14:11
how much?
2016-01-07 15:21
#785
2016-01-07 15:23
Matchfixing has already ruined a game I loved. You fucked up, now fuck off.
2016-01-07 14:15
how did it ruin it for you? also why would you have <3 VP, you know they're also involved in a betting scandal or are you just a blind follower because you like pasha's stream?
2016-01-07 14:24
what about golden rule you fangay?
2016-01-07 14:33
+1 Well written and well argued. I agree.
2016-01-07 14:15
Example had to be made because getting evidence of throwing is super hard. Basically only way is to get info from inside. All of you think valve is stupid and doesnt care about you but they clearly care about ur betting skinz.
2016-01-07 14:20
Valve dont care about community..
2016-01-07 14:24
nice tears <3
2016-01-07 14:25
onliner talking <3
2016-01-07 14:27
it's not him
2016-01-07 14:47
Magiskn00b
2016-01-07 14:43
Get some job and start over again. Not in CSGO, sorry.
2016-01-07 14:29
#804
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Slovakia kokotko1g 
Well both you and Ibp trash took a lot of money from me. Nobody will give my money back, and I'm just one of thousands of people you've scammed. Lifetime ban is more than deserved, doesn't matter how much money was taken. Those bans should be an example for others who ever dare to even think about match fixing in the future. Is it too harsh, it's up to community and other pro players to decide, but bans are more than deserved. Consider yourself lucky not to be arrested by police, since fraud (even online) it's considered as a crime. The faster you forget, the faster you will recover. Do something useful in your life, finish your studies, find a GF, get a job, get married, have a child, fight ISIS, vote for Marine Le Pen, etc... No hard feelings, just a honest unbiased opinion. Peace !
2016-01-07 14:31
csgolounge.com/rules rule #23 Bet at your own risk.
2016-01-07 19:11
#805
HObbit | 
Belgium adox3D 
2 many throws... 2 many fckin' obvious throws, Volvo just gave a sign to all teams! A big one.
2016-01-07 14:31
Well, next time dont be that greedy mate, gl in the future, hope you learned your lesson.
2016-01-07 14:45
#812
gob b | 
Germany creaven 
shut up noob
2016-01-07 14:46
you didn't really expect any support from 'hltv' did you?
2016-01-07 14:48
+1
2016-01-07 14:49
free fxy0 :)>
2016-01-07 14:51
#817
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Ireland Intrilo 
You and the IBP guys should get another chance
2016-01-07 14:56
All these idiots saying you deserve permaban are just mad cuz they lost their money on pixels.. #freefxy0 <3
2016-01-07 15:01
#freefxy0 NoKappa
2016-01-07 15:55
everyone should get unbanned after 1 year, what is wrong with valve, clearly they didnt think this through (like most of things they do because theyre completely incompetent) and just put a lifetime ban on these players to be over with, fuck off...
2016-01-07 15:04
#Freefxy0 Valve u suck
2016-01-07 15:07
Nice lies tho, you made at least 1500 euros on the throw.
2016-01-07 15:15
Well you should know that this behaviour can be qualified as a fraud. It does not matter if you made just 1 euro, what matters is how much DAMAGE you have done by it to the others. Sure you should have right to explain yourself etc. But it is not an official (by law) authoritative process and verdict. This is between you and basicaly the civil parties (valve etc.). So you could try solve the problem in front of civil court about your civil relationship between you and valve. Nevertheless it could be worse, if it would be in front of criminal court and u could end up in jail for some time. So far as much it seems unfortunate, you are lucky for the reasons above.
2016-01-07 15:20
ty 4 the skins, oh wait. die in a fire idiot baguette
2016-01-07 15:20
You were a good player, but matchfixing, when there is a lot of money around due to the betting sites, is purely robbery. you both robbed and betrayed the community. You can be happy to have only a game ban. If you were a famous guy in sports ( soccer ,basketball ) convinced of match fixing, you would be in jail. Karabatic did bet on his team's loss because every good player was not playing. He did not lose on purpose since he was not playing. This is a huge difference.
2016-01-07 15:20
It is people like you who destroy the growth in eSport. I hope you will never come back, same for the IBP guys.
2016-01-07 15:24
fxy0, if this ban is really that concerning to you, you could consider getting an attorney and forcing communication with Valve. You probably wouldn't win, but at least you would be able to explain your side of the story and why you think the punishment doesn't fit the crime. Good luck.
2016-01-07 15:25
Its sad dude :( This should be more regularized, and should have a special org, or committee to handle this situations. But 1st of all shouldn't ever be valve to handle this, should be the leagues where they were playing to handle that, just like in other sports like football (ex. Italian league scandal in 2006). We want so hard esports to be recognized, but then we have this poorly made decisions and regulations. Maybe we should follow the way other sports handle this.
2016-01-07 15:26
i'd unban each one of you , 1 year is enough.
2016-01-07 15:29
1 Year is far from enough considering whats at stake, you destroyed so much for Fans and people who actually care about the game .. and you did it all for Skins .. You can compare it to fraud, you got something that didn't belong to you by screwing over others.. I wonder what the Penality is in France for that. Anyhow, i do believe in second chances, but you coming in hear, crying and saying "Isn't a year enough" .. NO. It is definitely not enough. EDIT: I figured out the penalties gyazo.com/3c6aa02d5d3f02f84c10b6da456d4e..
2016-01-07 15:46
#957
HS | 
Iceland MorsAlbum 
Titan don't give a fuck. They'd bail him out at no second thought.
2016-01-07 19:21
when i was 21 i had the best job ever as a bartender... was my dream job atm, i even practiced new drinks at home. Sadly the manager cought me stealing a $10 and fired me. Im 31 now and im still waiting him to allow me back to my job.... is he too harsh on me?
2016-01-07 15:45
It doesnt matter how much they earned. They fucked theyr fans in the ass.
2016-01-07 15:48
Skadoodle did too and didn't get any punishment
2016-01-07 15:49
Good for him.
2016-01-07 15:50
His statement is a waste of time. He is permanently banned from all valve sponsored events. Valve will never go back on their final decision, they don't want to look weak.
2016-01-07 15:53
#871
allu | 
Iceland Vrillu 
Valve isn't the end all for CSGO, there's lots of different big, independent organisers who could go against Valve's ruling. Orgs like DH and ESL have the ability to host tournaments with prize pools that hold a candle to Valve's majors with LESS expendable dollaroos. Honestly a split between big orgs and Valve is preferable to me. For example, DH allowing banned players and using some type of pro-Mod, and lets just say they don't have stickers or anything. Valve makes some stupid decision like not allowing players who play the pro-Mod to attend Valve tournies. Then we'll see who gives a fuck about eSports.
2016-01-07 15:58
#864
allu | 
Iceland Vrillu 
Its sad that gambling is such a strong part of esports nowadays, I don't care if you scammed parrot-brained idiots who bet virtual items and get upset about it. These people you scammed and those who complain are little weaklings with no self control or sense of the world. You however are a person with drive and passion to be the best at something, and not someone under 20 crying about superficial things like money and virtual items. I hope things change.
2016-01-07 15:54
that's what you get you inbred baguetteboy, move on with your life because you ain't got any love here homie
2016-01-07 15:54
actually it seems he has lots of love here homie
2016-01-07 16:36
#868
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Brazil NaScene 
You won't even attend a major. No point.
2016-01-07 15:57
lol 760 comments in one day wtf, noone will read my comment so i can finally say that im a gay and i like to suck really big cocks
2016-01-07 15:58
chat is moving so fast
2016-01-07 15:59
Chat is moving so fast Kappa
2016-01-07 16:19
the chat isnt moving that fast, youre exposed bro
2016-01-07 16:36
haha :D
2016-01-07 16:44
yo hit me up dude ;)
2016-01-07 20:56
#876
steel | 
Poland cm[G] 
u do have a point
2016-01-07 16:22
i dont know what we're talking about here but i'd like to leave work now and go home
2016-01-07 16:39
You should be unbanned, you've learnt your lesson
2016-01-07 16:45
i think that if there was basically no rules for fixing up matches, players that fixed matches should have an opportunity to atone. Perhaps 1000% would be the right number, it can gradually be payed from prize money during 3 years for example. Ban for life - is retarded and making CS scene less competitive robbing more than 5 talented players from scene.
2016-01-07 16:48
If we keep making threads like these and flooding valve maybe they will get annoyed and unban
2016-01-07 16:48
hehe
2016-01-07 16:50
#891
steel | 
Belarus Ruble 
Valve's group is a set of retards. Only what they can do is add new weapons and skins LOL! They should free all the players!! I hope that other csgo tournament organizers do not follow valve.
2016-01-07 16:51
I agree with you man I think its fucked
2016-01-07 16:53
grimy as fuck. you reap what you sew, as they say. good luck in future endeavors, you threw away the dream, idiot.
2016-01-07 16:53
#894
JW | 
Sweden KILLATON 
If you can't do the time, don't do the crime.
2016-01-07 17:04
nobody cares
2016-01-07 17:08
"And you players, who love eSports, I can only ask for your support, " LOL why the fuck should we who love e-sport give support to you when you throw games for skins and to litteraly say "fuck you" to all the fans and people who love and bet on e-sport because you wanted some skins LOOL when you threw for skins its like litteraly "fuck all e-sport fans fuck all supporters i want skins" and now all of a sudden you want our support nice try faggot get rekt bant 4 life <3
2016-01-07 17:17
#902
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Denmark diOnysos 
+1
2016-01-07 17:18
Actually agree, the cases must be reviewed much better. Valve fucked up like everytime they do. +1.
2016-01-07 17:15
#956
HS | 
Iceland MorsAlbum 
I don't understand, didn't valve first say it was a 1 year ban? If valve told them at the very first day it was permanent, it would be a bit more alright. The fact they make them bring their hopes up and think they still have a chance, then at the very end to just crush everything is pathetic. Even for Valve's standards.
2016-01-07 19:19
#900
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Iceland PrTz1 
GL in your life buddy =]
2016-01-07 17:18
#901
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Denmark diOnysos 
Bye bye fxyo, you did intentional fuck over fans/community and must now face the consequences, wipe your eyes and get a day job.
2016-01-07 17:18
Throw = get lifetime ban Cheat = get a year ban valve xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
2016-01-07 17:19
#904
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Denmark diOnysos 
Im sure that if you get vacbanned you get life mu friend (no homo)
2016-01-07 17:20
All the other tournaments should just say fuck you to valve and let the players play. Because we all know there are alteast 2-3 more teams who did THROW a match for skins and they are still playing and earning money. valve's csgo devs are morons
2016-01-07 17:22
#981
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Denmark diOnysos 
Narh people voting for other people who fucked the community and fans are morons.
2016-01-07 19:41
I agree, valve just handing out punishment with no real rhyme or reason. Seems like they want to sweep all bad things under the rug without looking at case by case evidence.
2016-01-07 17:25
What I agree the most with is that you got the same punishment as iBP who stole a lot more money. And even for iBP a lifetime ban is too much, so yeah that's a really harsh punishment. I know you're sincere and you deserve to come back. Courage, garde espoir !
2016-01-07 17:31
fu man
2016-01-07 17:32
Its definitely seems harsh, but Valve is trying to prove a point. Personally I think they should spend more time banning hackers. It sucks to watch pro games without all of the talented players. What even more sucks watching a pro scene with cheaters. I think year was a long enough sentence from playing professionally.
2016-01-07 17:34
I agree you should have a second chance, valve are a bunch of cocksuckers tho so good luck..
2016-01-07 17:37
#UNBANFXY0
2016-01-07 17:41
GL MAN
2016-01-07 17:42
" no rules were in place" i finished the blog here
2016-01-07 17:46
+1
2016-01-07 17:50
fxy0 didn't do nothing wrong, go unban
2016-01-07 18:03
#930
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Spain akproxx 
Agree dude valve are idiots
2016-01-07 18:15
Fxy0 :(
2016-01-07 18:22
I hope that other eSport orgs will shut Valve out and 100% run their own events and look pass the Valve bans. A punishment was in order, and one year seems fair.
2016-01-07 18:24
#936
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Brazil Waldemar H. 
<3
2016-01-07 18:45
2nd chance pls ;d
2016-01-07 18:56
Im totally with you and everyone else banned player in this situation. Hwo Valve is handling thing isnt acceptable, but what can we much do? Stay strong!
2016-01-07 19:01
=(
2016-01-07 19:15
Yeah RIP :(
2016-01-07 19:18
#950
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Iceland xijmplr 
FEELSBADMAN
2016-01-07 19:16
Do professional players sign a Charter of Ethics that gives them access to professional status and the consequences associated with it ? I do not think so.
2016-01-07 19:16
#960
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Germany 'ezpz 
fxyo even if I like you a lot as player, but you did something veeery bad imo. The ban you and the other matchfixing guys got is fair. To say "There was no rules" is so sad (I really hate when people started to say this) because even if there was no rules, there was a moral. You and the other betrayed your own fans and supporter and now you want to get support by them? Isn't this ironic? I hope you get unbanned (You would be an wasted talent if not), but really dude if something like this happens do an charity or community event from your own. peace
2016-01-07 19:23
Lets say on a total hypothetical level someone like flusha (please bear with the example its not about him) was found to have cheated in valve majors, or online, or both. The bans would match!?! I know it's hard for angsty teens to understand and even valve, but this is where you get mediation from a third party. Valve needs to admit to themselves that there is absolutely no way to stop teams from doing this in a discreet manner. To some it may seem like they have taken the moral high ground but it I assure you, it's quite the contrary.
2016-01-07 19:50
nice
2016-01-07 19:24
dude srsly why u do even care, u won't win a single tournament anyway, you are tier100 player, go play random public lans and have fun
2016-01-07 19:25
fxy0 :(
2016-01-07 19:27
Im 100% with you. As I have said elsewhere valve banning people for skin betting when they themselves were picking and choosing which bots to ban, and which sites to extort means it was anything but legitimate at that point (mid-late 2014). Now they try to make it seem like there is no problem with 3rd party betting sites because a few of the exploiters were banned. OK then, what I want to see now is some low level pros (I would lump you in here) use the telephone to take tens or hundreds of thousands from these sites which promote underage gambling then admit to it and quit the game and rub that shit right in valves face. Alternately I would like to see some sweeping action by the courts to close these sites as they did with online poker, then watch the skin market crash. At least then valve could worry more about making games instead of selling skins, which is now their biggest business.
2016-01-07 19:30
#975
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United Kingdom dezmondo 
hope you and the others get unbanned man. such a waste of talent
2016-01-07 19:36
i hope you back. GL :D
2016-01-07 19:36
FREE RXY.I FEEL WHAT U SAY SO DEEP MAN U SHALL HAVE THAT SECOND CHANCHE VALVE ITS HES PASSION HES MEANING WITH LIFE MANNU WANNA THROW IT AWAY FOR A 100 U SIXK MAN U SICK
2016-01-07 19:36
such a pro statement. embarrasing
2016-01-07 19:49
valve are like malaysia law on drugs I don't care which nationality are you, not gonna send you back home I'm gonna execute you, i don't freakin care
2016-01-07 19:58
i dont think they would execute an american citizen
2016-01-07 20:34
#990
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Slovakia crushyou 
n1
2016-01-07 19:59
Personaly I would ban your ip adress so you can't play cs go ever. I would even go as far as hardware ban your pc so you have to move and buy a new pc you piece of trash.. I don't bet and I haven't lost shit but people like you make me sick. Go throw matches on battlefield or shitty CoD series..
2016-01-07 19:59
you pixel lovers are so stupid
2016-01-07 20:23
lmao how much?
2016-01-07 20:28
told you i don't bet. retard
2016-01-07 20:57
how much btw?
2016-01-08 00:58
what's expected from a retarded putin
2016-01-08 11:45
Rip fxy0 and swag
2016-01-07 20:18
gl! hope u will get unbanned soon
2016-01-07 20:25
u stoopid?
2016-01-08 04:10
:(
2016-01-07 20:25
Random comment to raise the number and give visibility.
2016-01-07 20:25
:/
2016-01-07 20:26
FUCK VOLVO
2016-01-07 20:27
#1011
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Latvia gr0wu