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[21+] Marijuana
United States RightWingSJW 
Is it really true marijuana cures cancer? Apparently it's proven that weed doesn't cause Cancer even though your lungs get tar from it. Scientists still don't know why but they theorized that THC in the tar actually kills the cancer causing cells immediately and then you naturally excrete the tar out through coughing, etc. Unlike tobacco which does cause Cancer. If this is true, then genetically modified medical marijuana with no THC and only CBD should immediately be shut down. I think we have to keep an eye out for pharmaceutical companies funding these GMOs.
2016-10-18 22:59
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Why is cocaine a schedule two drug and marijuana is one of two schedule 1 drug, the other 1 being heroin. Btw they legalized Kratom again.
2016-10-18 23:10
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Sweden izverinice
Probably because of religion. Devil's Lettuce and whatever they call it. TBH, they should legalize weed and make crystal meth a class 1 drug instead.
2016-10-18 23:04
Devil's breath :)
2016-10-19 09:02
tobacco industry doesnt let it
2016-10-18 23:16
Its prolly not tobacco industry. Most likely pharma
2016-10-18 23:18
cannabis is an amazing plant, textile industry maybe fucked, paper industry get fucked, everyone get's fucked by this one fantastic plant, can't have that!
2016-10-19 02:31
Not only that, hemp can also be used to make plastic like bottles. And it can decompose very easily out in the environment.
2016-10-19 05:00
Big Businesses like plastics and papers and tobacco would not enjoy a product you could smoke with very few negative side effects, or a plant that can be used for nearly everything.
2016-10-19 07:30
#3
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Sweden izverinice
Marijuana does NOT cure cancer. However, the CBD oil can serve as an antiepileptic drug as well as a pain killer, better than the ones that the doctors can give you.
2016-10-18 23:03
Its just a theor since marijuana doesn't cause Cancer there aren't any other explanation.,
2016-10-18 23:04
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Sweden izverinice
Hence the "can serve" instead of "serves".
2016-10-18 23:05
it obviously isnt a cure, but more research is needed on the matter as several studies have proved that THC can kill cancer cells and prevent tumor growth. your sentence would be better like this: "Marijuana does not CURE cancer"
2017-02-06 12:59
There's no scientific proof it cures anything, the only proof there is, is 'that is has medical side effects'.
2016-10-18 23:03
Yea that's cuz its practically impossible to proof since there is no way scientists can get like maybe a tissue sample that they can predict will eventually be cancerous, as in there is no way to detect cancer in its preliminary stage. So they can't perform the experiment.
2016-10-18 23:09
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Sweden Kasidro
? we genetically engineer mice to have a higher chance to get cancer as well as straightly transplantate human cancer cells in to mice for scientifc purposes all the time. If you could show over and over that a group of mice that should develop cancer by a certain probabilitty does so to a much lesser degree than what is expected (thanks to some kind of weed treatment) you basically have shown it. Problem is that so far no studies have been able to prove it, the outcome have been more or less random in most cases. One study shows it is indeed hepling while the next shows it isn't
2016-10-18 23:55
+1
2016-10-19 00:00
Then it doesn't makes sense, if that GM mice is supposed to get cancer then it will, THC won't work that aggressively. Unless they can predict which body part is gonna get the cancer.
2016-10-19 02:06
You actually made a really good thread considering it's not about csgo. Actually some good discussion going on. +111111
2016-10-19 07:56
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Sweden Kasidro
It is not supposed to get cancer, it is supposed to have a higer chance to get it. If we know that a group gets cancer with a 70% chance we would be able to see improvements on the same group if we had a found a functional treatment. Wasn't the whole point that the Marijuana would kill the cancer cells? If it works more mice than normally would not get cancer or get it at a later point than the non treated mice BTW I'm not against you and some kind of forbid weed guy, just have to look at it in an scientific way
2016-10-19 11:56
I actually found a Harvard study on this. sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/04/070417..
2016-10-19 04:00
#32
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Norway Spooderman
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2016-10-18 23:38
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Yugoslavia bleaq
im not sure, but imma keep smoking just in case
2016-10-18 23:04
^ he gets it
2016-10-18 23:10
reported
2016-10-19 04:46
#8
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Other mikeyjb
do you really think scientists haven't found a way to cure most cancer types? you can't trust the pharmaceutical companies, they just want to make money by selling chemo etc. that don't really help much
2016-10-18 23:04
What about in countries that aren't shitholes and have national free healthcare....? Oh right, conspiracy boy pls be quiet.
2016-10-18 23:09
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Other mikeyjb
thank god i'm german and got free healthcare idiot
2016-10-18 23:10
I was talking about the US but great job on proving you are retarded.
2016-10-18 23:10
#15
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Other mikeyjb
are you retarded? the pharma companies still get the money, whether it's by national free healthcare or by yourself get education idiot
2016-10-18 23:11
Except, only a select few get MORE money under a national healthcare.
2016-10-18 23:12
Free healthcare doesn't mean pharmaceutical companies don't make money.
2016-10-18 23:12
you are retarded, we have free health care because the taxes we pay, The government pays for the health care. The company's that give out equipment/medication to help cure cancer just charge the UK government instead of the patent.
2016-10-19 02:27
Marijuana is [+14] no [+21]
2016-10-18 23:18
#25
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Netherlands JUNG13
lol let MJ be 14+ and you'll grow a bunch of a braindead nolife stoners, smoking pot in the young age can cause serious damage to personality and mental health
2016-10-18 23:28
Smoking from 15. Studying law.
2016-10-18 23:31
^
2016-10-18 23:36
#30
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Netherlands JUNG13
"can cause" obviously you learned you are the only one responsible for your life earlier Some potheads would never learn
2016-10-18 23:36
Its pretty easy to quit marijuana. I was really surprised how easy it was for me. When I used to smoke cigs I couldn't stop until there weren't any available. Like I only use it as a sleep aid.
2016-10-19 01:59
it really depends on a lot of factors. you might have a strong mind and enough will power to stop consuming it. other might be easily influenced and weak minded. i consider myself to be addicted to it, i feel like i can stop smoking it at any point, even though i do not want to. im sure the day i decide to stop smoking i will struggle for a few days/weeks and then it will all be fine. i smoke weed, about 2-3gr/day. wake and bake and before bed are my favourite spliffs, and it is a reflection of addiction imo. the first sign for dependence is consuming it alone (considering you started doing it socially). have you got any tips on how to counter the ganjover effects if you are laying off it? i've been told eating like a pig helps.
2016-10-19 02:22
That's because your mind thinks you need it. It's similar to tobacco addiction, except without the physical. People link stuff to it. For example a joint: - before bed (using it as sleep medicine) - after work (to relax from the stress) - during sex - during movies - as breakfast - etc. Meaning your mind thinks you cant sleep, you cant relax, you cant have good sex or enjoy a movie without some weed. That's because you taught yourself that weed is necessary in those situations, like you taught yourself to brush your teeth every day. Try breaking those links one by one. You need to break them, not edit them. Replacing it with something else can help to stop with weed but it's not healthy(like to eat like a pig)
2016-10-19 02:42
im currently not looking to stop smoking, although i do appreciate the tips as they are probably going to be handy in the near future. the tricky part is probably finding the "substitute". do you have any experience with this? as in, any products/foods that you might think will help? ie, gum/lollipops when you wanna smoke a cig
2016-10-19 03:42
Only thing about quitting smoking weed is eating the right things. For example consuming excess magnesium will help with the sweatting. =) It's like cigarettes atleast for me, if I've consumed alot a day or two of abit "edgy" comparably to not sleeping well for also the sweatting is a bit annoying. Helps if u do alot of sports.
2016-10-19 04:44
Technically I'm against finding a sub for a cig/joint. I strongly believe that if you want to quit, you can quit. However if it's really difficult, the only sub I can think of are vapers. I managed to quit tobacco cigs by using a vaper. And right now the current vapers are pretty awesome, not like 10 years ago. You could try buying a Kanger Subvod or Joyetech Aio with 6mg of nicotine liquid. Smoking that in stead of cigs is healthier. And it's really cheap.
2016-10-19 11:15
AFAIK, weed makes you less physically addicted than chocolate, but a psychological addiction can be just as strong as the strongest of drug addictions. I know you didn't say anything about the "problems" of weed, but if you have issues in your life, weed can fuck you up. Whether it's getting you in trouble with po-po, getting you into a bad environment, making you fuck up your education or maybe just make your underlying schizofrenia or what-do-I-know destroy your mind.
2016-10-19 10:52
You are an exception, use your fucking brain. OBVIOUSLY it would have a negative effect on most kids lives, just as it does with FUCKING ADULTS. the only people that say it is beneficial either 1. Use it as medicine (very few do it legitamately) 2. Addicted.
2016-10-18 23:41
There is no such thing as a physical addiction to weed
2016-10-19 02:28
No fucking shit, there's nothing in there that would make you physically addicted. An addiction doesn't have to be phsyical, aka, most addictions.
2016-10-19 03:16
Are you retarded. A physical dependence to a drug, E.I an addiction. Fucking dumb Americans.
2016-10-19 03:18
Jesus fucking Christ your retardation has broken new boundries. MOST ADDICTIONS ARE MENTAL, NOT PHYSICAL. there is MANY marijuana addicts, just like there are CS addicts, alcoholics, etc.
2016-10-19 05:26
I used to be addicted to playing guitar and jamming with my band. It was horrible. I couldn't get through my day unless I did a three hour practice ritual with my guitar. And I always did that the second I sat down to study.
2016-10-19 11:43
I never said there was not a mental addiction to weed. ahahhahahaha "Jesus fucking Christ your retardation has broken new boundaries." all i said is that there is no such thing as a physical dependency to weed unlike other drugs such as heroin. I was replying to "2. Addicted." LULface typical fat american can even read his own post.
2016-10-19 14:08
weed > all #legalizeit
2016-10-18 23:55
Dude that's far away, at least fucking decriminalize it. As in fine people who are possessing.
2016-10-19 01:55
no. weed is not the pink and fluffy drug that liberal cunts claim. weed should not be legalized everywhere. decriminalize its consumption, yes. make it legal so your corrupt government can make more money from it, no (exceptions apply). weed is not good.
2016-10-19 02:23
for some people weed will not help there situation yes, But for others is can make a massive positive difference to there life.
2016-10-19 02:29
#83
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Korea ka1ske
as in.. cancer patients? weed makes you stupid
2016-10-19 04:25
please go do some research and not listen to Fox news.
2016-10-19 04:26
#85
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Korea ka1ske
I don't think I've ever watched fox news but weed sellers should get death penalty
2016-10-19 04:27
this must be bait
2016-10-19 04:28
#87
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Korea ka1ske
oh yeah, it's so bait that half the countries in asia enforce it. when you sell weed you are ruining lives of people you sell to, and their families, it's serial killing, do you not think that is death penalty?
2016-10-19 04:29
Give me one example where someone has died from smoking weed.
2016-10-19 04:30
#89
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Korea ka1ske
I didn't said died, I said ruined life, which happens to all weed users. Turns you into no life retard, spend all your moms money on weed and can't get a job because you have no memory ability.
2016-10-19 04:32
"it's serial killing," Must have understood. LUL And People being lazy and not getting jobs is nothing to do with the weed its there lifestyle. The reason people are lazy when smoking weed is because its a relaxant drug. What do you think that liqueur does. and +to that what is your view on alcohol cause all the defences you have said against weed apply for alcohol as well
2016-10-19 04:35
#91
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Korea ka1ske
No, drugs is shown to ruin entire countries because it turns you into a zombie. Look at the Philippines, you can see how bad this import makes people retard with bad judgement, no memory to learn, "relax" to not get a job, be useless to your family, allow corruptions to get your weed money, spread this disease to other people, infectious trash. Alcohol is short term but also pretty stupid and unhealthy.
2016-10-19 04:39
"Alcohol is short term" LUL yeah dying of kidney disease. I feel that you are just spitting out some random crap that you found in a 1990's Drug war propaganda, Its 2016 now bro Go! use google do some up to date research then come back and have a reasonable argument. to be honest in the Western world Weed does not Ruin lives and families as much as it might/could in your third world country so that could be a factor. I'm not replying any more so good talk fam
2016-10-19 04:45
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Korea ka1ske
yeah if you want government to bail out your zombies with welfare, I prefer to have the terrorists in prison
2016-10-19 04:46
he's from thailand he is delusional
2016-10-19 05:17
hes probably not even sure what gender he is
2016-10-19 07:32
How does weed make you stupid? That ARGUMENT is stupid. Weed makes you in many ways much more considerate towards others and the world. How could one call that stupid?.. It's like saying people who have consumed LSD are all mental patient loonies, hilarious. What you should understand is weed doesn't fix stupid, but it doesn't cause it. It might cause you to feel stupid but I assure you, it's you - not the weed.
2016-10-19 04:48
#98
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Korea ka1ske
It makes your judgement bad because it juices your brain, and gives you no memory skill to learn stuff, you become a zombie verywell.com/the-health-effects-of-marij..
2016-10-19 04:52
Well, so some studies say. I'd say it has an effect, in some cases positive and in some not. For example it might cause you to be awkward in social situations you wouldn't normally be, but hey.. If you don't want the effects, don't smoke. I know many kinds of smokers, I can't say that for a regular smoker it'd make you a zombie. If already tired or in other ways non-optimal condition, then yes. These things the studies and such mention do happen, yes.. But are far more controllable then what they are said to be. :p
2016-10-19 05:26
And on the other hand, why does it hurt YOU that someone else likes to smoke or prefers to find out if they do and if they don't let others smoke and prefer themselves to opt not to? Why is it always a fight of "You smoke and get stupid, smokers don't work, ganja isn't good for you!".. Most fucking things on this planet ain't good to you, and ganja for fucking sure ain't even close to being the worst one. I bet the food most people here on HLTV ranting about drugs consume is processed shit they don't even consider to find out about, as well as they've got no idea about microbes except as something that the antibiotics work for.. :p There's a case to be excessively worried about, not someone elses recreational or medicational drug use..
2016-10-19 05:30
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Korea ka1ske
It's not okay to worry about other people who make up my economy and social?
2016-10-19 05:40
Obviously it is okay to worry. To tell them what to do on the other hand expecting your ways always to be better without a open mind for obstructive views? No. I won't be telling you why I think you should be smoking cannabis coz I don't know a reason for you. If you like it and don't get negative effects (lasting, meaningful ones which bother your life) just go ahead, otherwise it's unhealthy to continue. Stop it. :P
2016-10-19 05:55
GMO OMG
2016-10-19 02:17
2016-10-19 02:18
Funny I see this thread today. I will actually make some oil (using Rick Simpson method) this weekend or the next weekend. It's for a friend in the hope it will do good for him. And we have nothing to lose in trying it. Never tried it, so I'm curious. I can post some updates here in this thread later on if anyone is interested.
2016-10-19 02:25
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Portugal mrsc
please do it really curious to see the outcome
2016-10-19 02:31
Cool! I will!
2016-10-19 02:43
#76
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Germany L4Ndo
stop this madness! you are killing your friend! read post #75 for real information about this substance!
2016-10-19 03:31
i hope he feels mellow and hungry :D
2016-10-19 03:46
Yep cures cancer, nobody here has cancer.
2016-10-19 02:29
there is correlation between smoking and cancer however correlation does not 100% confirm causation. I heard something about how dispensary grade weed has minimal amounts of tar in it so it doesn't necessarily cause any lung damage in that sense. I believe it does cause a increased risk for cancer but only in large excess amounts.
2016-10-19 02:36
Not even that, apparently even the heaviest of heavy marijuana smoker's don't get cancer, like not even one case. They still dont know why. Hence this thread about the THC theory.
2016-10-19 03:55
And I also theorize that it's impossible to not even have 1 case. So I think it actually reverses the radiation you are exposed to everyday like from gas stoves, soil, etc that can add up to cause Cancer. One Harvard study to show cancerous tumor growth cut in half after the treatment: sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/04/070417..
2016-10-19 04:11
Actually, the tar in cannabis plants is focused mainly on the stem and leaves, not the bud itself. So properly trimmed bud doesn't contain much of tar, ever - to my knowledge. If you want to minimize all damage caused by smoking, start vaping. Best medical effects out of cannabis anyhow are achieved by orally consuming it, not smoking. Smoking is much more recreational then medicating for the exception that it can be meditation-like, mentally refreshing. :P There's a lot we still don't know about cannabis, researchers have only not so long ago found flavonoids and found out a bit about how they act in the process.
2016-10-19 04:56
Dude I'm trying to say even if you smoke the stem whole and get shit ton of tar in your lungs it won't cause any cancer.
2016-10-19 05:03
Undoubtedly, but ontop of that it's not only tar in smoke that is causing cancer. Smoke itself consists of carbon dioxide, which is poisonous when inhaled and toxic in itself. For example this could be the reason for cancer, hard to tell as we don't have even the slightest of actual clues to where it comes from.. What I'm saying isn't in any way saying THC doesn't somehow negate cancer effects to some extent or at some stage. I've read about people getting cured from progressed cancers by eating cannabis oils. There's gotta be something to it, not sure if it's gonna be any miracle cure ever, but I think it's gonna help.
2016-10-19 07:28
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Denmark Notallama
Funny, 21 is just about that time when most people stop smoking and get a job/life.
2016-10-19 04:50
Wut you guys finish college before 21?
2016-10-19 04:56
marijuana is not a cure. It treats symptoms, usually from chemo. it helps increase appetite and can suppress nausea or vomiting. much like these threads created by 14yr olds, who know nothing.
2016-10-19 05:03
Dude how am I supposed to that even scientists don't know?
2016-10-19 05:26
Actually, science is about to prove you wrong. Just google the studies, there are plenty from reliable sources like Harvard. :P Your ignorance about the nature and how it affects people is not bliss, it's only stupidity. :p No-one on this planet yet fully understands how we work in collaboration with nature within our bodies or many other things about the system we call a human. People are little by little only starting to understand that what you eat is what you are isn't just a lil' catch phrase to be honest and you come here claiming cannabis is only a treatment for chemo symptoms? Fuck chemo (albeit it in some cases works, it's painful and really destructive to the body in general and costs a shitton of money), time to find a natural alternative. We aren't made to roam the earth forever and life should be enjoyed to the fullest, but todays lifestyles where we get short time benefits for massive long-time adverse effects isn't the way to live a life to it's fullest to be honest. :P
2016-10-19 06:09
Until it does maaaaaaaan you just keep blazing ok?
2016-10-19 15:14
google 6630507
2016-10-19 07:30
+21 LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
2016-10-19 06:30
Hey man doctor don't prescribe here in Cali to under 21s. Unless you have a clear condition. If ur over 21 if you say you have a cough they'll prescribe you the dankest weed.
2016-10-19 06:33
I often prescribed me this means that I am a doctor
2016-10-19 06:36
why the hell are complaining about something normal? I've heard that weed is harmless if you use it rarely, not everyday. If you use it day a day, your brains will slow down.
2016-10-19 06:52
Listen to this fake science that i use to justify my drug addiction :D
2016-10-19 07:10
Calls actual proven science fake science Kek
2016-10-19 09:01
there are other, healthier ways of consuming weed instead of smoking, you seemed oblivious to that in your post.
2016-10-19 07:28
I obviously know that, I'm thinking from the perspective of people who don't. Nice to see someone actually catch that.
2016-10-19 09:05
alright, i guess you couldve mentioned that. but to stay at least a little bit on-topic - cannabis is a great plant, ive had reoccuring headaches ever since i was 7yrs old, the doctors couldnt find anything,told my parents im making it up and shit... im beggining to believe it could be whats called a cluster headache, and whenever i get one i go and smoke a joint and it relieves the pain enough so i can peacefully fall asleep.. ofcourse the pain comes back a few hours after i wake up so i either gotta smoke another one or be a pill junkie..
2016-10-19 11:49
cures chancer and makes everything better :D
2016-10-19 07:30
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Argentina V4TS3L
+21? lol
2016-10-19 07:58
First of all, cancer is just a name that gathers several types of tumours. These tumours are really different, depending on it's location, ability to spread and such. There are a few types that growth can be slowed down with weed. Although this does not apply to a lot. As long as my knowledge reaches. You can either false me with scientific proves, with link from a legit site, or prove me with the same method. Sorry if my English is broken, 3rd worlder English in science might not work very well. Corrections are welcomed if you can do it without nonsense insults.
2016-10-19 08:14
BLAZE IT 320!!
2016-10-19 08:51
wow you guys smoke weed? awesome LOL!! where can i get?? hehe
2016-10-19 09:03
Check PM
2016-10-19 09:13
where i buy?? lol??
2016-10-19 09:12
One thing that scientists recently discovered is that we, human beings (we are the only species, as we know) have receptors in our body that is only there to take in CBD and THC for the human body's health and wealth. Nothing else triggers these receptors. It is thousands of documents on internet about this, but here is one: tikun-olam.info/Cannabis-in-the-human-bo.. This is actually pretty amazing if you think about it. :-) Stay strong, stay healthy, stay stoned, smoke weed!
2016-10-19 09:13
i know this comment is old, but youre pretty uninformed. we have our own cannabinoid system in our body, we produce our own cannabinoids that trigger these receptors. there is absolutely no need to introduce an outside source of cannabinoids into your system. im not against weed tho, i use it regularly :D
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