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Kio - "Aimlock is a common thing now"
Canada grancheffauto3 
clips.twitch.tv/kiocsgo/HorribleOysterPu.. Watching this game is so fucking boring, just aimlocking for info constantly and at big events using it for aiming quite obviously. clips.twitch.tv/proleaguecsgo/AlivePorcu.. clips.twitch.tv/proleaguecsgo/Outstandin..
2016-10-26 23:38
#1
Europe bueR 
he should know, he used to aimlock.
2016-10-26 23:39
he had so many deagle kills back in envy
2016-10-26 23:42
before envy, with kelly apex and co.
2016-10-26 23:49
kellyS?
2016-10-27 00:22
lmao
2016-10-27 00:27
kqly fuck it xD
2016-10-27 00:28
hahaha
2016-11-26 16:05
damn i miss kukli
2016-10-27 13:11
+1
2016-10-27 15:40
kukli vac ban (
2016-10-29 18:00
:C
2016-10-29 18:01
Lul since when
2016-10-26 23:51
he used the same cheat as KQLY, baking bread or whatever. When KQLY got banned, he transferred all his skins and said he got hacked by a german. The funny part is that the IP was located in the same town supex0 lived in(the cheat coder from that cheat). It was pretty obvious kio used to cheat back then, he also shortly after had a MASSIVE performance drop(not necessarily implying because of the cheats but it could be a factor).
2016-10-27 15:48
I dont think he used the same shit as KQLY. But I didnt remember that skin transfer scenario at all, it's always a pretty obvious sign tho xD
2016-10-27 15:56
he transferred his skins to his gf's account.
2016-10-27 16:47
Indeed. Remember when sf and kqly got banned? Remember what kio did at the same exact same time? Moved all his skins from his inventory to another account and claimed he got hacked lmao. Also asked lurppis on twitter the most stupid question: "What if someone has injected the cheats on my computer and I get banned?"
2016-10-27 13:06
fml thats dumb. Poor bloke
2016-11-26 16:32
Not really dumb, IMO he was cheating and was afraid to be VAC banned so tried making excuses early.
2016-11-26 17:07
Oskar left Mouz because of the cheating on that team btw :)
2016-10-26 23:39
source?
2016-10-26 23:41
#12
oskar | 
Ireland sk0ffin 
he doesn't have one because he's full of shit
2016-10-26 23:46
also, oskar cheats himself
2016-10-26 23:48
???wtf
2016-10-26 23:46
No,Csgo
2016-10-27 11:49
2nd play, does that should be an aimlock on window ? Well you can see the top of his helmet at window. Not an aimlock.
2016-10-27 10:05
+1 also konfig can hear hes moving
2016-10-27 11:59
Im almost 100% certain this was an aimlock, the "flick" to his head was way too smooth for it to be legit
2016-10-29 09:32
That's funny. It's actually the opposite, mouz found out he cheats.
2016-10-27 17:59
lmao, niko is the most obvious cheater with shox on the scene
2016-11-26 11:45
+1
2016-10-28 16:17
#3
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Egypt Tywin 
mad cuz bad. lmao. kio = t3 player
2016-10-26 23:39
#72
shox | 
France nic0x 
kio 2 majors
2016-10-27 00:33
#81
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Latvia cr00ked 
Nic0x 0 majors
2016-10-27 00:41
#82
shox | 
France nic0x 
did i say something about me ? stfu faggot latvia kiddo
2016-10-27 00:42
#206
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Latvia cr00ked 
y u so trigger boi
2016-10-27 12:44
because you're retarded
2016-10-27 13:25
#402
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Canada kthxy0 
latvia .. cmon
2016-11-26 14:00
What a fucking retarded post
2016-10-27 11:40
this is so dumb. if someone criticises a pro player then people respond with shit like "who are u" or "0 majors" or whatever why on earth should the person commenting on a pro player be on the same level or better? can't people have opinions on other peoples' skills even without being pro themselves? these kids nowadays....
2016-10-27 13:03
#286
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Latvia cr00ked 
lol people get so triggered, just because im having a banter.
2016-10-27 21:48
nah because you're a retarded troll..
2016-11-26 16:30
#221
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Greece hekzy 
What a fucking retarded post
2016-10-27 13:23
nice bait
2016-10-27 15:31
#95
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Denmark U w0t m8? 
And yet nobody wants him
2016-10-27 00:53
#98
shox | 
France nic0x 
yup rip for him, dunno what he will do after faze hope for him to go back like 2014
2016-10-27 00:56
#141
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Bulgaria AboveYall 
yup bcz he sold his cheats )) since KQLY got banned he is "new player" :D
2016-10-27 01:46
#5
Denmark hyyg 
this rubino clip. wow. How is that legit
2016-10-26 23:42
#8
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Spain akproxx 
is called aim
2016-10-26 23:44
LUL
2016-10-26 23:45
#11
Denmark hyyg 
aim when full flashed and a perfect one tap in the head. ok then
2016-10-26 23:45
is called luck*
2016-10-26 23:49
#32
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Netherlands mlkush 
if u believe that was luck, ur pretty fuckin stupid. it was blatant as it could be, and people still says luck? omfg
2016-10-26 23:57
so you're saying there's no way that couold have been a lucky shot?
2016-10-27 00:14
#43
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Netherlands mlkush 
yea, there's no goddamn way. he's full flashed, and he just presses the trigger key, it's absolutely inhuman. aim at site, gets full flashed, and does a random flick one shot right to the head when the player is mid air jumping out of window, a retard aproachs and says it was lucky, ok now i believe that pigs can ride a bike.
2016-10-27 00:18
so basically, it's not possible to flick and get a oneshot hs while flashed?
2016-10-27 00:19
#49
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Netherlands mlkush 
it was fucking inhuman, it was a robotic move, and i'm just talking about the kill, not talking about the aimkey on Legija right after the kill. but yeah keep lying to yourself, and keep believing in the csgo (clean) pro scene. they were completely awful all the season, and out of nowhere, they come with sick strats, sick reads, sick entrys, even MSL started to play like a real pro LMFAO. c'mon stop plz.
2016-10-27 00:26
why do you reply to me with all this other crap when i strictly mentioned this one kill?
2016-10-27 00:27
u sir, have autism. its one thing to be not intelligent enough to understand cs. thats fine. but what turns it into autism is that u believe everyone is cheating yet u still dont just get out and instead argue on a forum about it. like if u really believe everyone is cheating, whats the point for u to follow the game?
2016-10-27 00:30
#78
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Netherlands mlkush 
yes sir, i have autism. makes u feel better with yourself? gud. i'm being realistic as shit, this scene is full of bullshit, and everyone knows. first off all, not all the teams are cheating. most of them are, but not all of them. u know, money involved, they're doing whatever the fuck it takes to win, and they don't give a shit cuz the rule "no vac=no cheat". even virtus.pro are blatant at cheating, but morons can't realize it xDDD. for me its /closed have a nice end of day :)
2016-10-27 00:39
so ur saying not all the teams are cheating, but all the top teams if i understand right? otherwise it would be even more autistic. bcs if u say rubino can hit a crazy shot while flashed just by pressing a button, surely a team that doesnt cheat would not have any chance to ever make it even close to the top scene, right? i dont even know why im discussing with u. all u cheating conspiracy neckbears really dont have enuff intelligence to warrant discussing with u.
2016-10-27 00:49
you're saying, that rubino clip is legit? if you think so, you are pretty retarded bruh, no offence, but it's obvious even for an autist.
2016-10-27 11:40
so im saying ur autistic for saying this, u say im autistic for saying the opposite lol profit??? look i provided plenty of arguments for why that would be a lucky shot from rubino and nothing more.
2016-10-27 11:56
no you haven't. legit player, whether he is am or pro, he would at least give a burst or a proper spray, not one tap. but he, fully blind, perfectly one taps him in fucking mid air. why would he do that??? i hope you're trolling, because it's hard to believe that person actually can be that stupid.
2016-10-27 12:00
im not gonna have some autist tell me that im stupid. he doesnt tap only once. he shoots twice. he doesnt wanna use up the remainder of his magazine maybe to spray somewhere while blind. i dont fucking know what his thought process was at that moment, maybe he doesnt even know. who cares? the point is: he cant just press a button that will make u lock onto a guy and headshot him.
2016-10-27 12:04
even if rubino did 5 shots through wall, all headshots, all flicks, and with aimlocks, you retards would say, that it is possible. Just because he is pro and he has 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% chance of being able to do it, he is obv legit. "In the world with no actual police, there will always be a crime."
2016-10-27 17:02
good thing this was just a tap while he was flashed, not 5 flick hs thru walls with impossible aimlocks. now outta my face mr silver. and btw: how can u be silver in csgo? ah i know: u prob got autism.
2016-10-27 17:25
Yea, but looking at entire scene doing that type of crazy stuff on daily basis, u will always say that they are lucky. Read at least one court process, and you will see, that verdict is done based on motives and abilities, evidences (that clip can be considered as one). - He has motive to cheat, he wants 200k$. - He has an extremely suspicious video. Evidence #1 - He has been shit for the whole 2015 - early 2016, and now he just reads every movement of his enemy. Evidence #2 - His friendo k0nfig has strange clips as well. Evidence #3 - Is it easy to turn on cheats on lan, too much pros already confirmed it. He has abilities to cheat. - VAC doesn't ban t1-t2 pros for about 2 years, he doesn't fear of getting VAC banned. Motive #2 - When a t1 player gets VAC banned, org of that player gets bankrupt. It is much easier to get an agreement with Valve, so that no one gets banned. - CS:GO scene already has some t1 pros, that have been cheating. abilities #2 We could look further and find more stuff on rubino, if we get a police order to do a research. Check his PC, check his fb. friends in skype, check their teams voicechat, teamspeak, check more of his POV demos, check his mouse, analyse his mouse movements. OOOOH Shit, Valve doesn't provide any of those, LOL.
2016-10-27 17:51
A U T I S M
2016-10-27 17:51
Doesn't read, and goes full retard. NT delusional schoolboy.
2016-10-27 17:52
he's right. so are you. imo: rubino clip is legit, he isn't even fully flashed by the time he hit the onetap. i'd imagine myself doing the same thing (onetapping instead of anything else since he is in the air and i'm almost blind) k0nfig clip isnt, you can actually see the difference in aimlock if you watch closely. in k0nfig's clip before he shoots him, the crosshair goes a little _slower_ than normally towards his head. that's when you know it's an aimlock
2016-11-26 16:31
this is a month old? anyway, its bullshit. im not buying the aimlock thing. how is k0nfig aimlocking and then sucking dick against fucking kinguin and flipside? suddenly next level anticheat at a fucking dreamhack 100k tourney? its just retarded. surely he would just aimlock a few times and they'd be in the semis right now.
2016-11-26 16:52
he's not fully blind, he sees a little which is enough to make a reflexshot which he did and hit.
2016-11-26 16:27
it would make sense, if he wasn't blind. and funny thing that, he wasn't even dueling that guy. he was dueling legija and he managed to flick it :D :D
2016-10-27 12:04
wow, he was dueling the guy on site and just bcs hes blind he certainly cant flick over to window with his crosshair xD its not like the guy has played this game what? like 6k hours or some shit? xD
2016-10-27 12:06
Let me break it down he uses an aimlock 3 times in this clip 1st time is after his teammate gets killed calls out Legija , Rubinho knows were he is but lost vision moving up from short so he could have changed position. Holds right side of the pilar "aimkey pressed " mcrosshair moves slightly to the left (he knows legija still behind the left pilar and didn't relocate. 2nd aimkey pressed mid flash "probably panic reaction but no1 just burst 2 shots full flashed perfectly on a player . 3d lock on legija he holds his crosshair in the middle were legija is behind why it locks on so fast , unpresses it , same time legija steps ou rubinho didn't expect it gets rekt off his aimkey. Thoughts?
2016-10-27 13:03
stopped reading after first line gtfo autist
2016-10-27 13:04
Lmao
2016-10-27 13:06
#226
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Netherlands mlkush 
you're pretty fuckin stupid, let me tell u LMAO
2016-10-27 13:38
same old shit, like i said above. u say im stupid, im sayin ur stupid. i give my arguments, u give hardly any. i tell u to gtfo, u dont gtfo bcs ur a neckbeard blalala it gets real boring.
2016-10-27 13:46
This clip is a fucking argument. You didnt gave a single argument retard. You just keep saying that flicking, and one taping a guy in mid air while being fucking blind is completely normal play. It doesnt even make sense that he didnt even spray. He just one taped him and flicked perfectly while being blind. Are you autist??? Thats just pure stupidity ffs.
2016-10-27 15:00
And he wasnt even shooting against the guy from window. He was shooting against legija, and if he was legit, he would spray the position where legija would peak. However, he just one tsp flicks the guy mid air, while being full flashed. And he couldn't hear the guy in window, cuz flashbangs have a beeeeeeeep sound, that makes you unable to hear anything.
2016-10-27 17:07
You might want to rethink you opinion about autists. They are often much better at spotting irregularities than normal people.
2016-11-26 11:36
You And some paranoic kids=/everyone.
2016-10-27 00:49
#97
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Netherlands mlkush 
what do u mean?
2016-10-27 00:55
exactly what i said lol
2016-10-27 14:49
#252
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Cyprus Swishh_ 
+1 lol
2016-10-27 15:41
#197
chrisJ | 
United Kingdom dv-_- 
"even virtus.pro are blatant at cheating, but morons can't realize it xDDD" Do you realise how stupid you sound?
2016-10-27 12:07
#243
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Netherlands mlkush 
call me stupid, call me whatever the fuck u want, all the things are on the eyes os spectators, only don't see who don't want to see. cheers
2016-10-27 15:28
#247
chrisJ | 
United Kingdom dv-_- 
Ever notice how 99% of the people accusing are new to CS? If you think that all these pros cheat then you either don't know enough about the game, or are incapable of thinking logically. At the very most, 1 or 2 players might have cheated at a LAN and got away with it, and if that has happened at all - it wasn't any time recently.
2016-10-27 15:35
this.
2016-10-27 15:55
haha you have no idea what you're talking about the k0nfig clip is aimlock but rubino clip no. he wasn't even fully flashed at the time he hit the oneshot. those kinds of kills have been made forever (halfflashed onetaps) and if you mean aimlock to legija after grenade, you know he's kinda checking the inside of the bombsite and surprise surprise legija is right behind the wall so it's a fucking coincidence you can actually see the difference in aimlock if you watch closely. in k0nfig's clip before he shoots him, the crosshair goes a little _slower_ than normally towards his head. that's when you know it's an aimlock
2016-11-26 16:23
Apparently not
2016-10-27 00:26
Ofc not. Airlock changes the game environment and makes things like thqt possible. That wouldnt have been possible without airlocking. 0% luck, coz AIRLOCK made that possible. If u go to own server and try to one tap a guy when ur flashed, u will see red error message in console.
2016-10-27 00:38
ah good stuff, ill make sure to send these clips to dan m in the future, thanks bro
2016-10-27 00:38
Wait, you've never had kills while being completely blind before?!? Did you just start playing the game or what? I got like 300 hours in the game and I must have at least 10+ kills while flashed. It's quite common actually
2016-10-29 18:36
#119
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Norway norskeN 
hahahahahahahahah
2016-10-27 01:17
I onetapped a guy in the toilets on overpass while running and being flashed at the same time. The other day my best irl friend got a noscope HS with the awp through a smoke while being flashed. It's common to experience such scenarios once in a while if you play a lot.
2016-11-26 17:19
or maybe you need to remove your tinfoil hat, and realize that some times people are lucky. Have you never had an insane kill, where you thought to yourself "I might get OW banned for this one"?
2016-10-27 00:16
#45
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Netherlands mlkush 
seriously dude, don't try to make me believe that the shot and the aimlock on legija was luck, cuz it wasn't. they're on top2, something fishy is going on Dignitas. First k0nfig, then MSL becomes a god of entrys and strats, and now RUBINO comes with this shit, yea it's all luck on the GLOBALS head that are here on HLTV.
2016-10-27 00:22
Do i deny there is a possibility that there are cheaters in the pro scene? No. BUT: Is this an obvious aimlock? No. If you really do believe that this is obvious cheat, you surely have to be gold nova at most
2016-10-27 00:25
#62
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Netherlands mlkush 
imgur.com/a/XsM65 ofc i'm a gold nova. go back to your cave DMG, only DMG's believe that scene is clean and no one is hacking, and all that happens it's luck or skillwise. plz don't make me laugh more. for me that shit was obvious as it can be, nothing more,nothing less than an trigger and aimkey. /closed
2016-10-27 00:30
Did you read what i just wrote?
2016-10-27 00:33
lol mm ranks as an argument .
2016-10-27 14:52
And you don't even seem to have that type of an argument. Go kys Dig fangay.
2016-10-27 17:11
I need to prove that somebody has no cheats . ok. prove them guilty then sherlock.
2016-10-27 17:13
Read at least one court process, and you will see, that verdict is done based on motives and abilities, evidences (that clip can be considered as one). - He has motive to cheat, he wants 200k$. - He has an extremely suspicious video. Evidence #1 - He has been shit for the whole 2015 - early 2016, and now he just reads every movement of his enemy. Evidence #2 - His friendo k0nfig has strange clips as well. Evidence #3 - Is it easy to turn on cheats on lan, too much pros already confirmed it. He has abilities to cheat. - VAC doesn't ban t1-t2 pros for about 2 years, he doesn't fear of getting VAC banned. Motive #2 - When a t1 player gets VAC banned, org of that player gets bankrupt. It is much easier to get an agreement with Valve, so that no one gets banned. - CS:GO scene already has some t1 pros, that have been cheating. abilities #2 We could look further and find more stuff on rubino, if we get a police order to do a research. Check his PC, check his fb. friends in skype, check their teams voicechat, teamspeak, check more of his POV demos, check his mouse, analyse his mouse movements. OOOOH Shit, Valve doesn't provide any of those, LOL.
2016-10-27 17:55
you are delusional as fuck dude.
2016-10-27 18:19
Nice argument lol, but kys, fangay
2016-10-27 18:22
i cant argue with u since your "evidences" are pure bullshit. so kys, delusional newbie.
2016-10-27 18:31
#296
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Finland D3dust 
nice arguments bro
2016-10-28 15:59
ty delusional loser
2016-10-28 18:08
#309
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Finland D3dust 
hahaha, what has me saying to you "nice arguments bro" to do with me believing in pros cheating or me being a loser. You are so retarded.
2016-10-28 18:10
so dont u found his arguments bullshit? why i need to prove somebody is innocent? it makes no sense just prove them guilty sherlock.
2016-10-28 18:13
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Finland D3dust 
I agree that prove guilty, you don't need to prove his innocents unless there is clear evidence against it, which in this case there isn't any, but your arguments are weak, denying everything makes you look stupid.
2016-10-28 18:15
lol my only argument is exactly the same that you said you agreed.
2016-10-28 18:19
#314
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Finland D3dust 
"so kys, delusional newbie." "you are delusional as fuck dude." signs of weakness
2016-10-28 18:21
do you even read his manners and the pile of shit did he write as an "argument" its sound completely deluded. and i only started with kys stuff because he did it. i still dont get it. why do you even reply me about my arguments when I've only written one and u also agree. then talk about my manners lol . i dont know why im still here wasting my time , keep the last word fella.
2016-10-28 18:28
Well I mean, he is German... <:
2016-10-29 09:31
When you resort to flaming, you lack proper argumentation. You might realize this when you grow up, and also realize that other people realize it as soon as you start your flaming.
2016-11-26 11:41
???????
2016-11-26 23:30
#294
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United Kingdom jMz86 
hahahahahahah what the fuck have I just read. A FUCKING POLICE SEARCH WARRANT FOR SUSPECTED CHEATING....... invade his privacy because a couple of times his crosshair in a fucking game went over an enemy player behind a wall. Honestly, grow up you unintelligent little cretin.
2016-10-28 15:53
OMG, you are even more stupid than i thought first time. Cheating = stealing prizepool = crime. Cheating in any sports = DQ. Esports = Sports. Cheating in Esports = must be DQ. Even some pros and analysts said themselves, that Valve needs cheating expert, who is kinda same with what i said in my reply. But you are too stupid, YOU THINK YOU ARE MORE INFORMED AND COMPETENT THAN PROS AND ANALYSTS?? Go fuck urself. Live with your idiotic conclusions, that you make in your tiny brain.
2016-10-29 09:05
#336
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United Kingdom jMz86 
You don't know my conclusions you fucking idiot, I never told you what I believe. All I said was you want to waist police time for checking someones PC to see if they cheat in a game, fuck off. Honestly, get to fuck with this shit.
2016-10-29 16:28
#378
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United Kingdom jMz86 
Nice edit; Again, you pathetic little imbecile, my comment has zero relevance to what you are trying to prove. I am saying there is absolutely zero evidence to get a warrant for POLICE to invade someones privacy you fucking spastic. Do you honestly think that the Police are going to give you permission to read through someones private e-mails/computer because he once or twice aim locked on an opponent in a video game? I don't fucking think so retard. I do however think they need an expert on cheating, so that fucking idiots like you won't come up with retarded ways of dealing with things rather than; 'aim lock clips' and fucking "police searches" hahahaha. You really are a huge bucket of piss aren't you?
2016-11-01 13:52
or maybe you need to stop living in your little bubble world where everything is perfect and there are no people with bad intentions and realize that these guys playing MILLIONS of dollars every year now so you'd literally be a fucking retard to think they're not going to cheat LMAO. I'VE SAID IT 500X THEY WERE CHEATING IN CSS WHEN THE GAME WAS DEAD AND ONLY 3K PRIZE POT ROFL SO WHAT MAKES YOU THINK THEY WILL PLAY CLEAN FOR FUCKING MILLIONS? Does anyone have common sense here?
2016-10-27 00:31
#96
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Netherlands mlkush 
yea, ur completely right dude, but those guys don't want to believe that no one is cheating. and u know why? cuz they're all fucking newbies, they never seen cs pro scene before CSGO and before CSS. the only scene i remember to be clean, was in 1.6 times, there was no fucking shit like aimlocks, triggers, inhuman reads, and shit like that. it was everything so fucking clean, never heard about a pro player who used hacks on lan or online. oh i'm lying i head about that danish retard coloN. (LMAO) but he got banned instantly, and everyone who got caught got banned without vacban. now if they don't have vac ban, means that they're not cheating. i'm lmao with all the stupid replies i read here xD
2016-10-27 00:54
+100500
2016-10-27 02:09
+1005001337 Valve don't ban pros, because orgs with banned players always get bankrupt. For example, Titan. Tier-1 org is now dead. IMO all tier-1, tier-2 have an aggreement with Valve, so that their players don't get banned. It's good for both Valve and org, but bad for cs community. But lol. Thinking that Valve cares about cs community in 2k16??? HAHA
2016-10-27 17:17
#297
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United Kingdom jMz86 
"IMO all tier-1, tier-2 have an aggreement with Valve, so that their players don't get banned. It's good for both Valve and org, but bad for cs community." "VAC stands for Valve Anti-Cheat, an automated system designed to detect cheats installed on users' computers." automated AUTOMATED AUTOMATED You should probably figure out how VAC works before you start running some bullshit. If a pro player uses a cheat signature that's all ready on the VAC system, they will be banned automatically. Are you really telling me that ORGS are now providing specific coding to valve so they can stop their players from getting banned....... honestly fuck off lol.
2016-10-28 16:00
WHITE LIST WHITE LIST WHITE LIST Don't you remember, when Valve announced, that they provided white lists for all pros when Xantares was banned by OW? Why wouldn't they provide white lists from VAC bans as well, VAC bans are highly dangerous for both Valve and org, oh sorry you know nothing about how business works. Continue living in pink colored world, where Valve cares about community, not about money lol. Stupid.
2016-10-29 08:56
You do know Titan's story about KQLY is bullshit right? They blamed him because they think that since he is a proven cheater that no one gives a fuck about him so it doesn't matter, which makes him a easy scapegoat since people already hate him. There is no way one player can bring a whole organization like that, even Richard Lewis says has dirt on Titan.
2016-10-29 09:34
hltv.org/news/16788-titan-shuts-down The main reason, why Titan was bankrupt is Kqly's VAC ban. From our POV, VAC banned players don't really affect the team's structure or organisation itself. But from POV of sponsors, they are less likely to provide sponsorship to the team, that was involved in cheating. In other words, team with a VAC banned player is DQ'ed from all tournaments and leagues, so that team doesn't advertise those shitty hyperx headsets. Hyperx just cancels all contracts with a banned team, all 4 other members of the team are suspected in covering their teammate's software, and so on. When you don't have that much of sponsors, and you earn most of your money from selling stuff, streams and other things unrelated to sponsorship, your VAC ban will not do that much damage for economy of your organisation. That is what happened to Alternate, Property and Epsilon. But Titan was one of the most popular organisations in the world, their economy was highly tied to their reputation. When they lost all the sponsorship, they couldn't resist to the level of spendings they made themselves. Thus, they got rekt. "Witch hunt" era was the one, where sponsors couldn't be sure, if their players wouldn't be banned 100%. It's hard to give money to an org, that is potentially going to die because of 1 suspected player. Valve realised, that they are about to lose most of their sponsors and community ($$$), and they had to do that shady "white list". Amount of incredible, unexplainable aimlocks from t1-t2 pros is increasing in geometrical progression, but amount of banned t1-t2 pros always stays the same, 3. - Kqly stated himself that he wasn't the only to use that stuff. - Ko1n (the best cheat coder to ever exist) made 2 videos about pros using hax, and he knows much more about cheats, than every one of us does. - Semphis (t3 pro) said in his video, that cheating on lan is easy af. Unlike us, he is pro, he has been to lans. - Yam (t3 pro) said in his video, that he could literally access internet on quals for a major. - Valve themselves always try to show community, that they care about us. Remember those bans of fxy0, IBP members? They are fucking delusional, when it comes to that type of things. VALVE SHOWS, THAT THEY ARE TOO STRONK, CS:GO IS HIGHLY DISCIPLINED GAME. Kappa. - RLewis, Thoorin and some other analysts stated, that cs:go needs a cheating expert. Which is pretty much suspicious, because they have more insider info on cs:go scene than we do. - Ko1n's videos did show us, that cheating is possible everywhere, everytime, everyway and on every type of electronic device.
2016-10-29 16:23
You have yet to prove that KQLY was the reason they went bankrupt, naming some small time tier 3 orgs with no where near the same resources as Titan had is not proof.
2016-10-29 22:35
hltv.org/news/16788-titan-shuts-down Read the first thing in my reply omg, you probably didn't even read and just replied to me random text. I didn't say anything that could be considered as proof about tier 3 orgs. I said that they are "nowhere near the same resources as Titan had", just in other words. You are not even trying to provide some arguments, why you still bothering yourself by replying to me?
2016-10-29 23:09
Ah yes so you just read the Titan press release and took their word for it. Okkkk.
2016-10-29 23:18
Everyone knew it before that announcement, Titan after that kqly VAC was too quite. But nice argument lol. Have you got anything to prove, that my point is irrelevant? Oh sorry, you have nothing. No knowledge on business, sponsorship, organisations. No knowledge on early cs:go scene. NOTHING. Arguments don't appear from nowhere, when you just type random things.
2016-10-29 23:31
Anything to prove? Your the one claiming it was Soley KQLY's fault they went bankrupt, the onus to provide evidence is on you m8.
2016-10-30 01:13
#287
JinNy | 
Thailand fsjp 
+1337
2016-10-27 21:57
why is ur post yellow?
2016-10-27 00:29
#64
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Netherlands mlkush 
if that makes ur life better, and makes ur day being better, i appreciate it.
2016-10-27 00:31
#312
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Romania fluxz0r 
dont try to argue with retards.. for them every pro is clean because they are "pro" ...
2016-10-28 18:15
#172
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Sweden klvmeister 
it is called aimware.
2016-10-27 10:14
#21
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Israel Encryp7eD 
lol
2016-10-26 23:50
its called gamesense, plus fluke 1 tap
2016-10-26 23:56
#39
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Spain akproxx 
this xd
2016-10-27 00:06
nice b8 m8. if you watch the footage he eats the flash, turns right too late to dodge the flash and clearly panics and hits and holds his aimkey. He then proceeds whilst full blind to snap back DIRECTLY onto the player he was aiming at before's head behind the pillar. He holds the aim key down expecting this player to peek during the flash duration... and when PTR jumps through window since he is still holding it down it switches to the target that it knows it can kill (PTR). He never intended it to look that blatant as he was just trying to secure the kill on the player pillar. He wanted it to be a "gamesense" blind kill. But he clearly could not predict PTR's aggressive move and since he was blind didnt get a sound queue and resulted in this clip which at the very least looks 'fishy'.
2016-10-27 01:00
You are wasting your time :) Deluded fanboys would live in denial no matter how blatant cheating would get :)
2016-10-27 10:18
nt byali :)
2016-10-27 17:19
xDd
2016-11-26 16:14
xD
2016-10-26 23:44
Sellout game money rule the world
2016-10-26 23:45
why aren't NA winning then? they have a lot of money and never won anything big. Explain please?^^
2016-10-26 23:51
Because German coders > American coders.
2016-10-27 00:28
ah that's why Germans are winning all the time
2016-10-27 00:29
#218
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Germany Bier 
yes
2016-10-27 13:13
nice
2016-10-27 13:20
#220
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Germany Bier 
ty
2016-10-27 13:20
Because french coders better than german coders thats why they get caught all the time. Oh wait fack.
2016-10-29 22:37
also everyone is cheating so the skill gap remains the same
2016-10-27 00:32
so you mean it is a huge conspiracy where everybody is cheating and the hosts, casters, analysts and security know this, but they don't prevent it, because than everything would fall apart? And frustrated ex-pros or caught cheaters like KQLY or banned players like fxy0 are keeping quite about that, because they are being paid or threatened? And not a single one involved in this conspiracy has broken this agreement? And no insider has leaked this despite possible fame? Wow, everything makes sense now.
2016-10-27 00:39
Obviously when I say everyone I don't mean literally EVERYONE lmao don't be such a tool bag. Also don't bother reading my other posts and refuting accordingly, instead make up some false assumption that I said it's one big conspiracy that everyone is involved in....if that's the way your brain works then so be it. But there's no need for "conspiracy" when it comes to cheating lmao even analysts themselves have said they think there is a cheating problem, also who will believe fyx0 or KQLY because the noobs will say "h3h3h3 they're mad cuz banned" Just use your brain please, simple facts for you here.... -Millions on the line every year and you think people won't cheat? -Some of the same csgo pros playing now cheated in source when the game was literally DEAD in the water and prize pots were as low as 3k Oh and interesting fact about the last point, they were using a fov aimbot which was EASY to use on LAN because it was basically the ventrillo speak logo on your desk top and when you clicked it nothing showed up on screen but it activated silently and this was in 2007-2009 times and only got exposed because of richard lewis.... so please I know you're a fucking 2013 skins noob but don't talk about shit you have 0 knowledge about.
2016-10-27 01:09
Na, I'm just getting entertained by all the nice little stories your brain can make up to make your imagined reality sounding plausible. You guys are really creative, every time one of you gets triggered you telling me a new sweet story to laugh about. But I appreciate the effort you put in your argument, it makes it much more enjoyable.
2016-10-27 01:27
"Na, I'm just getting entertained by all the nice little stories your brain can make up to make your imagined reality sounding plausible." So you've basically just admitted that you are completely deluded and have no interest in looking at FACTS...what to expect from a person with <3 rain in his name, typical fankid lol.
2016-10-27 04:24
The thing is your facts are making no sense at all, as well as your cheating theories. It only sounds plausible because you guys are mixing all unrelated things you consider as "evidence" together and are repeating it all the time so that it somehow sounds like it's true. But it's not. And I know there is no cure for your cute deluded minds. Which is great, because it is amusing how creatively you construct things together to make a totally stupid and unrealistic thing like a truth everybody knows. But the best thing about this is that you guys can try as hard as you want because nothing will change and I can watch great CS matches AND laugh about you. And you can get mad about "cheaters" and additionally function as clowns to entertain people with common sense. It's a win win situation. So please keep it up. I have some additional questions for you: Which pro players do you think cheat? Which team has to most cheaters? Maybe you can gather some nice sources, too?
2016-10-27 09:48
Right back at you lmao. How do my facts make no sense at all? It's literally fucking common sense in every event that offers money people find ways to cheat, in sports, gaming you name it where there is money there are cheats. Also you fail to come up with any real "theory" yourself which can explain that in 2008 fob aimbot was so advanced and you're telling me 8 years later they don't have even better tech? Really are you that stupid? -People in the scene have acknowledged there is cheating going on but of course you know more than them -Pros and semi pros have actually been fucking banned lmao -So many shady clips coming from players which are unexplained -Known ways of cheating have been exposed countless times; hack activated on your phone, the workshop map cheat which if you remember is what was said when smn and co got banned that pros are using a cheat through work shop and then what happens recently, some coder shows us that you can cheat through a fucking SCREENSHOT lmao. -HLTV admin himself writing and article and now denying it So what more evidence do you want? or are you one of those numbskulls who say "no vac no cheat" I'm guessing Lance Armstrong didn't cheat that whole time and only cheat once and got caught right? Don't be a fucking retard lmao and I don't follow the pro scene anymore, recently getting back into it but it's pretty obvious players are still cheating.
2016-10-27 12:54
the funny thing is that you are trying to reason with me and that you think I want to convince you that pros are not cheating, while in fact I just want to trigger you some more. I love tryhards like you :)
2016-10-27 12:58
They do not have to pay them at all its the word of disgraced and humiliated ex-players who cheated and their word versus the word of the other Pro's who have armies of fans willing to defend them without them lifting a finger. It is not some giant conspiracy. It is simply that to have actual physical evidence as proof caught by an ACS is difficult when we are talking about some of the most sophisticated programmers only making maybe 20 copies available of their work if that.... getting a source code becomes nearly impossible. Kqly and smf only got caught because the source code to their cheat was leaked. Without that information Titan could have very well still been an Org to this day and both players could still be competing and cheating unbeknownst to the viewers and organizers today. EDIT: Until they start banning off of demo's... we will never be able to put the fear of god into cheaters.
2016-10-27 02:54
of course! Only noob organizations like the NSA have whistleblowers. Maybe they could learn how to keep secrets if they would watch the pro scene of csgo.
2016-10-27 16:06
+1 cs go pro scene is top notch secret keeper
2016-10-27 16:08
#14
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Europe HLTV70IQforum 
doesn't sound like he's even remotely serious...
2016-10-26 23:47
#16
Germany Mr.C 
it does sound like hes being serious
2016-10-26 23:48
#20
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Europe HLTV70IQforum 
reading chat and saying "everyone toggle man, its a common thing now" ... right buddy
2016-10-26 23:50
Said aimlock is a common thing now xD
2016-10-26 23:52
sounds like you're delusional and can't accept the truth lmao.
2016-10-27 00:33
#224
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Greece hekzy 
What is the truth?
2016-10-27 13:26
It purposely goes on for 20 seconds to show no laughing, smile or anything. Just starts playing again.
2016-10-26 23:49
#27
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Europe HLTV70IQforum 
You don't have to smile, laugh, say Kappa etc. when you are not being serious...
2016-10-26 23:54
Its my perception; did you really just type that to somebody on the internet? What are you doing with your life?
2016-10-26 23:57
#34
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Europe HLTV70IQforum 
Yeah you are trying too hard at this point, think I'll go somewhere else xd
2016-10-26 23:58
#25
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Brazil Mirekz 
hltv member failing to identify sarcasm, whats new?
2016-10-26 23:52
#26
Brazil FLXG 
>gets dropped from last 2 teams >say some shit without proofs to shake community and stay relevent/remembered
2016-10-26 23:53
Or maybe he just feels like he has nothing to protect anymore. Other pro's need to protect the scene, as exposing others, would devaluate the scene, eventually slapping them in their face with a decreased income.
2016-10-27 00:01
do u have autism? like this is a serious question.
2016-10-27 00:27
Nah, I am not like the common HLTV user :p
2016-10-27 02:17
then why do u write a comment that is teeming with autism?
2016-10-27 10:09
You didn't really get the point of my last post, quite contrary.
2016-10-27 15:06
in ur last post u said that u didnt have autism, unlike most hltv users. and i asked u why, if u didnt have autism, u would write such autistic comments. i dont see the problem?
2016-10-27 15:27
You once again missed the point.
2016-10-27 15:29
fine, im not gonna waste my time with an autist. as long as u understood that ur comment #37 is one of the dumbest things i read all day its fine.
2016-10-27 15:30
#298
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France Fran6k1D 
do u even know what autism is ? do u even have a clue that what he says is false ? No lol
2016-10-28 16:15
in come the SJWs...
2016-10-28 16:16
#303
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France Fran6k1D 
in comes the no-answer-trying-to-avoid-the-question-caus'-no-arg
2016-10-28 16:24
#35
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Spain rezpekfull 
he just said that on stream, thoughts ?
2016-10-26 23:59
#36
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Brazil hugoooo 
The Rubino shot was like a 'protection' shot, he knew the guy was coming from that spot, he was on a 1v3 situation, everybody knew he was there, so he just anticipated the CT jump, it was one lucky hs tho, not only gamesense and skill. On the k0nfig clip, you can see tabseN's head by a few pixels, you're looking ridiculous calling that an aimlock.
2016-10-27 00:00
Lol? Why he should one tap then? He wasn't even confused. The normal reaction should be at least a spray of few bullets not just one perfect tap and then he wasnt even surprised...
2016-10-27 00:29
#110
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Brazil hugoooo 
Have you ever played on lan!? There is the adrenaline factor, you're alone vs other players, sometimes when under pressure you also shot by 'reflex' or by timing... shit like that happens one or two times per year with anyone.
2016-10-27 01:11
Yes i did, and with adrenaline factor he should react with burst spray or even longer spray instead of one tap into the head
2016-10-27 01:13
Maybe he didn't want to make it obvious that he was flashed encase they peek him?
2016-10-27 03:47
#349
rain | 
Netherlands Nivex 
You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. He was in a 1v3 and completely open, spraying is exactly what would get him killed. because completely open + no bullets = dead. He would be an easy kill for the guy from site and even if RUBINO survived that, he would still be an easy target from the 2nd guy in market.
2016-10-29 17:30
"he knew the guy was coming from that spot" Quite literally one of the worst counter arguments I think I've ever heard. There's literally only one possible logical explanation for that shot, and it doesn't involve game sense or skill... It was either complete and utter blind (pun intended) luck - or it was blatant cheating. Trying to explain such situations away with shit logic doesn't help anyone.
2016-10-27 00:31
lol +1 when he is full flashed, he can't hear anything too, so he couldnt kill the guy by hearing his footsteps.
2016-10-27 17:27
#288
Monsen | 
Norway Piesso 
He ran before the flash popped though. Could be a prefire towards kitchen door, and ending up aiming to high or something
2016-10-27 22:56
#67
NiKo | 
Austria Phil_1337 
+
2016-10-27 00:31
rubino 1 tap full flashed, so funny
2016-10-27 00:03
Worst bait hltv
2016-10-27 00:11
1 tap on a player jumping out of window while full flashed, even though he's duelling player at rear of site... lmfao, this game and its pro scene is so shit now
2016-10-27 00:22
#57
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Iceland MorsAlbum 
and it's community is a fucking joke too if 2nd clip is aimlock apparently, by hltv standards, im fucking quitting this piece of shit game and community for good how does 2nd clip look anything dodgy AT ALL
2016-10-27 00:29
its just sad, 1 guy cheats and suddenly CYKA
2016-10-27 00:30
Did you see me mention the second clip? As for the first, there's only two possible rational explanations for that type of shot - and neither revolves around 'prefire', 'game sense', or any other bullshit like that. It was either cheating - or it was complete and utter blind luck. Given how often we now see these 'lucky' shots, and after some of the completely unbelievable shit flusha did, I'm more inclined to believe the former rather than the latter. That doesn't mean every time it happens it's definitely cheating. But the idiots who constantly try to explain away these types of events using their shit logic don't help the debate either.
2016-10-27 00:34
How is it blind luck? He knows where the ct is coming from...? It is almost as stupid as when you couldn't understand why KQLY would cheat online in preparation for the major - "why would he cheat in matchmaking lol, doesn't make sense" - classic h4ndocapped.
2016-10-27 00:43
"He knows where the ct is coming from" 3v1 and he's duelling a player at back of site. He then gets full flashed from window and you think he knows where the CT push is coming from..? LOL!, fuck off kid. We're done here. Go troll somewhere else with your shit fanboy arguments.
2016-10-27 00:45
Have you ever watched CS before? It is very common for a ct to flash out of window before jumping out. Suggesting this is blind luck shows a complete lack of understanding of the game, but that isn't surprising coming from you.
2016-10-27 00:47
lol, you're priceless ;)
2016-10-27 00:47
uk cs...
2016-10-27 00:50
Yes, you've got me. I'm quite literally all of UK CS.
2016-10-27 00:51
#106
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Poland Marvelm 
Yeah, I'm full flashed, let me try to 1 TAP SOMEONE CAUSE WHY THE FUCK NOT, MY GAMESENSE IS SO STRONG THAT I CAN EASILY 1 TAP PPL WHILE FULLY BLIND. ANY NORMAL PEOPLE WOULD ATLEAST SPRAY A FEW BULLETS IN THIS SITUATION, ANY PERSON, YOU, ME, H4NDO, ANYONE WHO'S NOT CHEATING WOULD NEVER SHOOT 1 FUCKIN BULLET IN A SITUATION LIKE THIS. There, I've put everything in caps so maybe your brain is somehow able to process this information.
2016-10-27 01:07
I never claimed normal people wouldn't spray. Saying it is blind luck however is stupid, he knows there is a very high chance that a ct will jump through the window.
2016-10-27 01:18
Don't waste your time. This kid trolls every thread with the same bullshit. He honestly believes even while being duelled from site, the T would adjust his aim to one tap a player in mid-air, jumping from the window, even though he has no idea if the CT intends to jump fully out, jump to the window frame, or just spam a flash and some random shots to bait for his team mate who's still in site. There's literally no way that T player could know what circumstances were in play on the CT side - especially while full flashed. At best he just spammed a shot and got massively lucky. Any normal person would just admit that. Unfortunately, idiots like this kid are utterly determined to claim everything is aim and game sense...lol ;)
2016-10-27 01:25
Of course he couldn't know what would happen in the future, we all know that. I never claimed it wasn't lucky or that it wasn't weird, I just told you it wasn't blind luck - he obviously expected a ct to jump out of window. Why he didn't spray I can't tell you. All I have ever said on this site is that clips like these aren't proof of cheating and that we should ban people based on facts and not opinions of random self-proclaimed experts.
2016-10-27 01:33
Nobody is saying ban them cuz of those clips, fucking investigate it. Improve anticheat measures on LAN (last lan with new hardware ESEA anticheat and no aimlock clips throughout the whole tournament, coincidence ?) This is why people bring it up, cuz all those clips are too fishy to ignore the whole situation and believe in pro scene being clean, cuz..... it is clean.
2016-11-26 23:40
dude, even for scream 1tap god standards this flick would be insane - NOT FLASHED! h4ndo is right. even he could have expected one in window/shop the flick is pure LUCK. he "flicked" him full blinded though there was no target. "understanding of the game"...teach me senpai
2016-10-27 02:33
It was lucky but he had a very clear idea of what was going on, it wasn't like he just randomly shot one bullet through a wall. Him being good at the game did help him in that situation but of course it was lucky.
2016-10-27 03:09
h4ndo is a fuckin bot LOL
2016-10-27 02:50
#126
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Iceland MorsAlbum 
it was a rhetorical question, if you have any basic understanding of the english language, you would realise ive been referring to hltv, and the 'community' in the past 2 sentences i wrote, which would indicate how does 2nd clip look anything dodgy AT ALL is rhetorical and/or directed towards the entire community
2016-10-27 01:27
You replied directly to my post, rather than generically within the body of the thread. That's not how you would typically phrase a rhetorical question to 'the community'. Perhaps your understanding of the language isn't as strong as you first thought?
2016-10-27 01:33
#131
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Iceland MorsAlbum 
stronger than my dick tho
2016-10-27 01:33
Interesting riposte...
2016-10-27 01:34
#134
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Iceland MorsAlbum 
i didnt bother to read your post since im fucking tired so i just saw strong and wrote something with my dick welcome 2 hltv
2016-10-27 01:34
You wrote it with your dick?
2016-10-27 01:35
#136
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Iceland MorsAlbum 
god knows
2016-10-27 01:36
Let me break it down he uses an aimlock 3 times in this clip 1st time is after his teammate gets killed calls out Legija , Rubinho knows were he is but lost vision moving up from short so he could have changed position. Holds right side of the pilar "aimkey pressed " mcrosshair moves slightly to the left (he knows legija still behind the left pilar and didn't relocate. 2nd aimkey pressed mid flash "probably panic reaction but no1 just burst 2 shots full flashed perfectly on a player . 3d lock on legija he holds his crosshair in the middle were legija is behind why it locks on so fast , unpresses it , same time legija steps ou rubinho didn't expect it gets rekt off his aimkey. Thoughts?
2016-10-27 13:42
#66
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Romania Zadro 
It's insane how many retards actually think that those are cheats.
2016-10-27 00:31
I dont get it, if so many of you think 90% of the pro scene cheats why still bother to watch the games? I would be so bored and annoyed with the game if all I could see is people 'aimlocking' and cheating all the time.
2016-10-27 00:34
4 teh lulz
2016-10-27 00:39
They have said for years that they would stop watching and that cheating would destroy the scene. They aren't very clever.
2016-10-27 00:48
k0nfig one isnt sketchy at all. but the rubino was one is fucking weirddddddddd
2016-10-27 00:46
#105
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Netherlands HetIsPatat 
Nvm, on one still frame he could just about make out a pixel of the player.
2016-10-27 01:08
and also if he is thinking of backing off from underwindow the first thing he is gonna check is window so its literally not dodgy in any way
2016-10-27 01:09
#114
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Netherlands HetIsPatat 
Of course he would check the approximate area as he was leaving, but there are several angles there so that does not mean he should check that specific angle. I just didn't notice the enemy pixel for half a second as he was moving towards the right, which kind of gave away what angle to hold. But in general, what do you make out of kio's comment? It is out of context though, did he means the pro-scene or did he mean MM? I assume he meant the pro-scene, which would be alarming. Especially with the whole doing away with his skins after KQLY-gate.
2016-10-27 01:14
#91
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Turkey twistzet 
feel the same..they fucked up this game.
2016-10-27 00:49
#94
jleh | 
Finland jleh 
this is coming from a guy who transferred all skins away when his boyfriend got vac. obviously he was cheating himself and triest to justify it by saying everyone else does it (without proof). on top of this nobody would use fucking aimlock in 2016 when there are smooth aimbots for aiming and sound esp for information. these 2 cheats leave no trace like aimlock would. idk which was the context of this but what a guy if he's serious)) lmao.
2016-10-27 00:53
1) Rubino is probably more blind on GOTV 2) Nothing about that suggests aimlock. Sure, it's "inhuman" but it looks natural. It can't be a trigger because he has to adjust to head level. It's also likely not an aimbot because he was able to go back to the original spot he was aiming at (likely because of the first reason), and then very naturally flicks onto the player coming out of window. 3) They're up 5-0 vs NRG. Why the hell would he use an aimlock? What does he stand to gain from winning that situation except an extra round win? Shouldn't they be confident enough in beating a shit team that they wouldn't have to cheat?
2016-10-27 00:58
Watch the demo again. He ate the flash full, and there wasn't enough time for it to wear off before the CT jumped out of window. In that instance I imagine desync between in-eyes and PoV wouldn't matter. It was either total luck, or it was complete bullshit. Unfortunately there's no way of knowing which one. As for the idiots trying to claim it was prefire, or game sense, they're trying way too hard.
2016-10-27 01:11
Even still, I stand by point 3
2016-10-27 01:12
Fair enough. I'm not inclined to disagree. The shot could have simply been a matter of luck. We've all had it happen.
2016-10-27 01:13
True. Also, aside from this clip I think Rubino has been a perfectly clean player. K0nfig is a different story though and it's certainly up for debate.
2016-10-27 01:15
Unfortunately that debate is still too easily clouded - and by those on both sides. (Case in point the k0nfig clip, which while he's looked very dodgy in the past, doesn't in that instance look at all like he's cheating...)
2016-10-27 01:16
Find me some dodgy k0nfig clips besides the one on cache please
2016-10-27 10:16
I honestly don't see the issue with k0nfig, u mean the window "lock" or what?
2016-10-27 01:01
#121
jleh | 
Finland jleh 
yeah there's nothing in that clip to suggest cheating. i mean maybe the way he "knows" there's enemy there but these guys are fucking professionals they should have insane gamesense. however k0nfig has quite a reputation because of the cache clip and many people will never ever believe he's legit again after that. and then they'll post every k0nfig kill as cheats. i personally don't believe he was clean during the cache clip either and if you cheat once in official match it's likely to happen again. but what do i know lol
2016-10-27 01:17
-he is fighting the player behind site -he gets popflashed out of window -predicts someone will follow it up through the window -trys a lucky predicton shot -is lucky to hit it. If he would be cheating why use that thing in a 1on3 u can barely win in a game that u already ahead? makes no sense Its rly sad that all the real cheating scumlords in this scene are protected by plebs that call stuff like this cheats... damages the whole integrity of cheat accusations.
2016-10-27 01:04
Lol and still hits one tap mid air? Wtf you talking about
2016-10-27 01:41
Excatly that! I even had a pretty similar shot yesterday while i predict flick on a player while flashed. And i am fucking DMG so i excpect a pro that plays this game for hours every day to do the same thing. This clip is easy explained by: gamesens (knowing someone will jump out of window) + crosshair placement (even flashed know where he have to aim) + luck.
2016-10-27 01:56
#300
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Finland D3dust 
dmg exactly knows how to explain a clip from a pro match! thats right, a DMG!
2016-10-28 16:17
#116
NEO | 
Poland LGf 
.
2016-10-27 01:16
literally the first thing in the thread.
2016-10-27 01:18
#225
NEO | 
Poland LGf 
how the fuck you know what i wrote. i edited 30s after i posted that and your answer is 3 minutes after that
2016-10-27 13:26
probably cause I opened the page within 30 seconds of you posting it?
2016-10-27 16:19
#281
NEO | 
Poland LGf 
=)
2016-10-27 18:18
2016-10-27 01:16
it all started with flusha, now everyone is cheating. even shox complained in an interview about flusha, claimed he is cheating etc. what makes u think he didnt start cheating too? if a pro thinks other pros are cheating, what makes u think he will continue to play clean?
2016-10-27 01:17
#132
jleh | 
Finland jleh 
i agree with everything except you saying "everyone". for sure some people in top 30 teams think like this and start cheating. but most people are decent enough to have certain values for life. i personally have very hard time to believe that more than 20% of pro scene are cheating currently. more cheating is happening in semipro level because these guys have nothing to lose and everything to gain. pros are pros because they fucking love the game from the bottom of their hearts more than anything. it's not a game for them. it's a form of art. and nobody does arts because of money.
2016-10-27 01:34
cycling was a form of art for armstrong :)
2016-10-27 01:42
#171
jleh | 
Finland jleh 
cycling is not rly compareable to cs. i don't see the beaty of cycling no matter how much i try to look it from different perspectives. i don't have anything against it but tbh it's very simple hobby and the most important thing on it is your physical condition easily. then you need some strategy how to use your energy and that's it i guess? so people like amstrong didn't give a shit about the sport actually and it's no suprise. cs has very good balance of strategy, mindgames, mechanical skill and creativity. and this makes it very beautiful game.
2016-10-27 10:13
As a long term player and fan of CS, to me this is one of the worst parts of the entire issue. Much like you I don't believe everyone in the pro scene is cheating. However, I do think there are some who are. In addition, while this is certainly not a new phenomenon, (pro players have been cheating in CS for years), the problem does appear to be worse in CSGO than in previous versions of the franchise. The result is that there are likely to be genuinely dedicated pro players, who train hard and play well, but are nevertheless denied success by those who are cheating. As a long term fan of the sport, that aspect annoys the fuck out of me. But that's not even the worst part. For me the worst part is that after having seen some of the shit flusha (and others) did, yet none of them were never banned, it left me doubting the things I've seen in other games since that point. It means I can no longer look at a pro game and simply enjoy what those players are doing without thinking, are they completely legit? The lack of action by Valve, as well as others who allowed pro cheating to go unpunished, ruined the pro CS scene.
2016-10-27 01:45
lol everyone playing csgo for money u just too dumb to understand it
2016-10-27 02:08
#167
jleh | 
Finland jleh 
lmao. you have to play for +5000 hours to have a chance to even become a pro (without money involved). and you don't do that for money. yeah i'm the dumb one here. bad bait
2016-10-27 09:59
I agree, can't wait for the documentary on all these teams using aimlock for cs go in a year.
2016-10-27 01:43
#319
jleh | 
Finland jleh 
what is this documentary that you keep bringing up? and how would we ever catch most of the cheaters if everyone has different coder?
2016-10-29 00:34
AFAIK, it wasn't in an interview. It was during a private conversation on teamspeak or similar. Someone recorded it and leaked it.
2016-10-30 12:52
The rubino clip is meh, just a lucky shot really, and the k0nfig clip is nothing, he could hear scoping and see the gun barrel of the awp sticking out from the window.
2016-10-27 01:55
While I don't think the k0nfig clip was cheating, tabsen was using an m4... If you're going to argue one way or the other at least watch the clip properly.
2016-10-27 02:07
There is nothing even remotely suspicious about the konfig clip. The rubino clip is weird indeed, but doesn't really prove anything.
2016-10-27 03:24
The rubino one was suspect I suppose but the second clip isn't?
2016-10-27 03:41
#159
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
Ugh... none of these clips show aimbot or any aim-assistance cheat whatsoever. h4ndo's posts and post #2 have got to be the most stupid thingsI've ever read... No-one in EnVy cheats and o-one in MouseSports cheats. Go and play the game yourself just for a little bit and you'll understand the plays being made.
2016-10-27 04:30
jonty you are super late to the party do you have an excuse for your tardiness young mister?
2016-10-27 04:53
#164
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
It was recently necro'ed. Therefore it appeared in the sub-forum to the left. Doesn't change the fact that my was no less correct.
2016-10-27 05:36
pro kioshima says pro players use cheats pro jonty says nuh-uh
2016-10-29 03:47
Have you ever used any cheat before?
2016-10-27 10:22
Idiot.
2016-10-27 12:37
youtube.com/watch?v=awd6vdaLJis spidii, nex & denis for shuure
2016-10-27 15:37
So that explains how they went from Top 20 into Top 2 in no time
2016-10-27 04:57
#163
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North America eschato 
lol,these retarded noobs dont even know basic cs.
2016-10-27 05:05
whers the logic in not cheating vs navi and vp but cheating vs nrg
2016-10-27 09:56
KQLY didnt get VAC banned sf didnt get VAC banned Kio didnt transfer all his items after KQLY got VAC banned this is not suspicious and not expected (ps: im conveying my point in a subtle way so that jonty wont get triggered)
2016-10-27 10:05
Aimlock every clip of maybe lucky but dude i'm my opinion dignitas was the rebelation team in big events later this evidence all course lost my confiance.
2016-10-27 10:16
Ask Flusha.. He used amilocks and won majors..
2016-10-27 10:42
dunno why they still don't make pros play on brand new steam accounts... That would solve the cheating no ?
2016-10-27 11:21
not really some cheats activated in the steamworkshop and pros could have used it. no inet acces is the current solution, but i dont think its enforced everywhere. also there is the infamous hardware cheat, like in small memory on mouse or whatever. idk how, but some say its a real thing and possible.
2016-10-27 11:25
#186
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Spain rezpekfull 
usually there's an explanation for a fishy clip such as dodging a flashbang or whatever but here its either full luck or pure cheating
2016-10-27 11:45
if you look at it frame by frame it's just sooooo extremely fishy.
2016-10-27 11:58
um this is my theory after get kicking from 2 different teams, ofcourse every player will be quite sad/salty about it. im not saying what he is saying is wrong, but it could be bc of his emotions. please dont hate hehe
2016-10-27 12:04
marry me
2016-10-27 12:33
he won dream hack 2014 and cluj did you just get cs go last year?
2016-10-27 15:38
what does that have anything to do ?
2016-10-27 16:36
#205
s1mple | 
Denmark konner 
"thief thinks every man steals".
2016-10-27 12:38
This is actually pretty huge that actual pro player says it... I wish he would open it up more.
2016-10-27 13:04
Of course that's something the guy that traded all his skins to another account and claimed he was hacked when sf and kqly got banned would say
2016-10-27 13:08
K0nfig is the only clip here that seems fishy to me. Reason: look how his crosshair goes from a quick to slow movement, very similar to how a BOT aims. most people always aim at a constant speed, but k0nfig always seems unnatural to me, I don't even mean him locking through walls, just his normal gameplay. Now for rubinos clip, you can see from the flash icon that he aims past the guy, so unless he has a trigger bot, the shot doesn't look like a lock to me. People here never try to think how a cheater would think. No one would use an aimlock that flicks directly onto someone, they would use something that's smooth/slow, which is why k0nfig looks fishy to me.
2016-10-27 13:49
228 autists in this thread and counting
2016-10-27 13:50
Many pros stated that flusha clips are fishy af and soon everybody forgot
2016-10-27 13:52
its true but many are using other stuff that we will know only later or we will never notice them at all. like offsetting an aimbot with few pixels so it stays unnoticeable but still can help you with aiming. i wouldnt even be surprised if sound cheats are being used now.
2016-10-27 15:09
#238
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Ireland lander1337 
2nd clip ... what's so special there?
2016-10-27 15:13
yeah my bad, thought he didnt see him. defiantly couldve chose better clips
2016-10-27 15:18
#239
Spain SR4 
k1o exposing cheaters, oh wait he used to be one
2016-10-27 15:17
Just like Smn with his list.
2016-10-29 09:24
anyone with more than 2 brain cells knows pros cheat nothing new /close
2016-10-27 16:00
-skins; -aimlockers. +128 tick mm; +esea anti cheat csgo 200x better
2016-10-27 16:07
better for community, worse for Valve itself. Valve doesn't give a single fuck about community
2016-10-28 15:39
I'm still certain pro players could use spinbot in a match and people would still make excuses about how it was legit :)
2016-10-27 18:49
#318
jleh | 
Finland jleh 
no. but it would be amazing if someone really did especially at notable lan (if it's possible). that would prove a point to valve and they would maybe do something about the situation.
2016-10-29 00:28
these clips are terrible
2016-10-28 15:40
can we just go back to the good old adderall days like men and forget cheating...
2016-10-28 15:51
#302
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France Fran6k1D 
2013: No aimlocks 2014: flusha 2015: nV, fnc mostly 2016: dignitas, g2, vp, astralis, sk/lum, immortals and i'm surely missing a lot Damn, pros acquire super luck/aimlock power, just when they win haha
2016-10-28 16:22
Notice the prize pot increase during the years, where there's money there's cheaters
2016-10-28 17:37
haha
2016-10-29 00:36
this is tru
2016-10-29 03:42
how do you know no aimlocks before 2014 maybe nip made their 87-0 with cheats but they just werent as blatant as flusha, who was more obvious than a russian cod player for the entire year 2014, so nobody made a fuss about that. i dont think there ever was a time when people didnt cheat in cs...
2016-10-29 16:34
#339
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France Fran6k1D 
"how do you know no aimlocks before 2014" Read what you wrote again, the answer is quite simple. XD if you think NIP cheated for their record
2016-10-29 16:46
if the answer is simple, why dont you answer the question how do you know? XD if you dont
2016-10-29 16:48
#342
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France Fran6k1D 
if the answer is simple, you should think about it instead of asking Lol, so cheats back in the days were more elaborated than today's, makes sense
2016-10-29 16:51
i didnt say more elaborate cheats, i mean maybe people just cheated less blatantly, they were more careful about it
2016-10-29 17:00
#346
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France Fran6k1D 
lol watch em play, their aim don't look weird at all, they never look at the walls or do some weird shits... before making hackusations you should at least watch the matches and look for evidence
2016-10-29 17:14
they could still use aimlock but only use it to aim and have wall vision turned off i can watch all the demos in the world, but i can not see whether people use aimbot when they flick really fast on a visible enemy so im still waiting for you to explain how you can be sure
2016-10-29 19:28
#373
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France Fran6k1D 
"i can watch all the demos in the world" You haven't watched a single one i'm sure. And you are probably noob if you can't see the difference between aimbot and natural aim
2016-10-30 12:25
if you can see the difference, why havent you answered the question i asked. it should be easy to explain if you can see it so easily. by the way, and this is just something ive noticed, the people on this site who call others noob, are usually baddies themselves who dont want to be found out.
2016-10-30 12:50
#376
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France Fran6k1D 
Man you literally have 0 experience if you can't even see the fucking difference between an aimbot and a natural aim, which means you're a noob I'm so sure caus i already explained it, they ofc didn't cheat, you are the one supposed to find proofs that they cheat, not the other way around lol Not only you're a noob but you are dumb aswell
2016-10-30 12:58
ok then show me an example of a pro using an aimbot to aim (and dont use a bad clip from a really bad cheater like subroza or shox or flusha thats too easy) and an example of that same guy not using aimbot to aim. if its so easy for you. show me what the difference is between a fast accurate straight flick from a human and from a properly configured aimbot.
2016-10-30 13:11
lol
2016-10-29 16:49
#393
AdreN | 
Kazakhstan Aiomie 
Add ustilo. Saw his aimlock at cobble vs kinguin.
2016-11-26 13:48
#348
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Portugal DeadStar 
If he had tried to spray the guy, I would take it, because since the flashbang came from that window it was a strong possibility that some CT would come from there. But 1 tap mid air? After he turned 180º full blind, he goes back 180º and hits the flick.
2016-10-29 17:17
#353
malik | 
United States fafiko3 
Trust me no one is cheating if you dont trust not my problem
2016-10-29 17:59
#382
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
Who necro'd this useless excuse of a thread? No proof exists that any Tier 1 professional is cheating. Get used to it tin-foil hat wearers... You're angry because you cannot prove it, get over it.
2016-11-26 13:38
#387
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
That post is correct, it's immature to flame in anyway whatsoever. Thankfully for the both of us, I did not flame at all. I'll admit, the post is aggressive and it's meant to be. Threads like this should not exist on HLTV as it's destroying the integrity of the pro scene and nothing more. My point holds water however and hopefully people will get the message one day. Good day, Clawss.
2016-11-26 13:46
nope you didnt flame at all you never insult people you arent a condescending prick how often do you get beat up in school?
2016-11-26 13:49
#396
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
See, finally correct. You're slowly learning.
2016-11-26 13:50
youre avoiding the question :)
2016-11-26 13:51
#389
AdreN | 
Kazakhstan Aiomie 
For you even video of person murdering another showing his face is not proof, i guess.
2016-11-26 13:47
it could be gotv bug
2016-11-26 13:48
#398
AdreN | 
Kazakhstan Aiomie 
lol
2016-11-26 13:51
#395
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
Well, obviously the context is much, MUCH different making that comparison daft in every sense.
2016-11-26 13:49
#400
AdreN | 
Kazakhstan Aiomie 
Well yes, aimlock videos are even more obvious. You have POV, you have X-Ray vision, you have no sense flicks into wall. I'm starting to get used to how thick headed people can be.
2016-11-26 13:52
#405
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Brazil adre221 
the thing is you can reproduce the ''aimlocks'' with normal hours of play, its like having a picture of someone holding a knife and arresting him for the rest of his life for murder, a person murdering another showing his face would be like a VAC or concrete proof of cheat in the hardware
2016-11-26 15:54
#406
AdreN | 
Kazakhstan Aiomie 
Actually Jail would be VAC.
2016-11-26 16:03
Nice shots
2016-11-26 13:47
#397
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Croatia worstplaya 
konfig is a kid made from cheats
2016-11-26 13:50
That's why kioshima sucked so much in Envy. He stopped cheating because of KQLY, he got scared, but then he noticed he was still playing against cheaters in other teams, so he just cba, stopped praccing, gave up and cashed in his salary.
2016-11-26 16:06
#409
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Sweden X-rAy 
yeah...french teams always had cheaters...its probably common in france where scream was just too good to be true and other players, who cant do shit these days.
2016-11-26 16:10
author is just bad at cs, scrub, noob whatever u call it.. gl in mm LUL
2016-11-26 16:13
BabyRage Mom, Pros are using aimlock hurr BabyRage
2016-11-26 16:44
Gotta be the biggest bait with the last clip... The guy was running around in window, plus you could see his helmet.
2016-11-26 16:54
online yes ofc it is you retard
2016-11-26 16:56
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