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religion studies in school
lynxi | 
Sweden lyNxiiii 
Do you think this should be a mandatory class?
2016-11-15 11:12
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it's debatable , i think the parents should decide if the kid should take the class.
2016-11-15 11:13
#2
lynxi | 
Sweden lyNxiiii 
In swedistan you have to study it.
2016-11-15 11:14
#63
REZ | 
Sweden jackir 
stfu nigger this SHOULD be because religion has been a big part of history and fuck me ancient greek myhology is interesting, and because it gives you a choice if you wish to believe this, and explained from a non-biased position (not from your shitty parents who think they know what is best for you)
2016-11-15 12:54
#67
lynxi | 
Sweden lyNxiiii 
Yeah it has been a big part of history, mostly in negative ways. Qrusades, war, politics, etcetcetc.
2016-11-15 12:59
#113
REZ | 
Sweden jackir 
yep. gonna make a new team called Qrusaders cuz fuck Crusaders amirite
2016-11-18 10:04
wrong. Religion is existing for so long because it had mostly a positive effect on the human's evolution: believing in the same thing and having the same standard of ethics is really important to society.
2016-11-18 10:10
its funny how swedish u are calling your country "swedistan" kill yourself
2016-11-15 13:14
#82
lynxi | 
Sweden lyNxiiii 
welcome to swedistan Khalid, enjoy ur stay.
2016-11-15 13:16
not even in Sweden, thanks for welcoming me in tho. still considering it btw :)
2016-11-15 14:08
You can have my second house, it has 3 bedrooms, a living room, kitchen and toilet with bathtub. Just send me a PM.
2016-11-15 14:09
still considering, i dont wanna live in a country felled with africans.. im not racist but i rather live in peace
2016-11-15 14:13
I will protect my yung khalid, don't you worry my son.
2016-11-15 14:18
thank you, nothing new from a swede. always nice <3
2016-11-15 14:22
That's sad in its own right though, the kid is really unable to make the decision themselves, but the parent shouldn't chose something that could potentially change that kids life at such a young age :(
2016-11-15 11:15
No, the parent should NOT decide that. You are basically taking the kids (non)religious freedom away.
2016-11-15 12:02
The parents shouldn't decide what they think is best for their children?
2016-11-15 12:17
No, they should not label the child with a religion until the child has reached the age of reason and seen the mountains of proof for science. Religious schools should be forbidden.
2016-11-15 12:31
Teaching a specific religion in school should be forbidden, but kids should study about many different religions from historic, cultural or any other scientific way.
2016-11-15 13:41
In my opinion religion shouldn't be taught in school at all. School is supposed to be scientific.
2016-11-15 13:44
Science is one set of subjects you should learn in school. You should also learn about culture and literature for example.
2016-11-15 13:48
#61
REZ | 
Sweden jackir 
nigga parents shouldnt decide shit about their childs religiosity
2016-11-15 12:52
#5
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Belgium Clinternet 
Waste of time religion, move on it's 2017 (almost) Religion destroys the world.
2016-11-15 11:15
Humans are destroying the world/planet and it's life.
2016-11-15 11:16
#62
REZ | 
Sweden jackir 
humans made religion
2016-11-15 12:52
some of them yes, not the major ones nope ;)
2016-11-15 13:14
#97
dv | 
United Kingdom dv-_- 
no they made all of them
2016-11-15 13:38
#109
REZ | 
Sweden jackir 
yep yu're religious alright and stupid
2016-11-18 07:57
>stat a fact >being called stupid by a cuck :o sad life
2016-11-18 12:51
#117
REZ | 
Sweden jackir 
Uh... Are you okay?
2016-11-18 13:09
>2017 >13 yo atheists still here ayyy
2016-11-15 11:17
Anti religion isn't anti god, it doesn't really make him an atheist. You don't have to have any religious status to agree with him either
2016-11-15 11:24
stop trying to act smart, smartass
2016-11-15 11:26
+1
2016-11-15 11:52
Thats why its good to learn about it. I think all religous teachers Ive had in school and high school have been atheists
2016-11-15 13:14
ofc it should be but only up to a point. school should exist to make people less ignorant
2016-11-15 11:16
#9
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United Kingdom trtr098 
In Britain too. Was pretty much boring shit, it doesn't stop people being racist. It exists because the government want kids to appreciate 'cultural diversity'. It's extremely unfair that children are examined on RS as a part of GCSE, as most of us couldn't give less shit.
2016-11-15 11:18
yes should be mandatory. in high school got 4, 4 and 5 from the courses i took
2016-11-15 11:18
#12
lynxi | 
Sweden lyNxiiii 
Explain why it should be mandatory for everyone, I think it should be your own decission as I have no interest for the subject AT all.
2016-11-15 11:21
Religion should actually be taught outside of the school, especially if it is merely Catechism in a public school and funded by the State, that is everyone else's money).
2016-11-15 11:30
+1 johnnyboy knows waz guud.
2016-11-15 12:04
+1
2016-11-15 12:11
I think no, feel free to explore religions in your free time :)
2016-11-15 11:26
Absolutely not, it's like asking whether Harry Potter should be obligatory. It could be argued that religion have such a big influence on today's society that it should be teached from a neutral point of view in order to prepare the children for differences, but in that case I require all the schools to teach about my religion; we believe in a creation of the world by Bigfoot who threw up and accidentally created earth, he is now very angry and is trying to take all he threw up back into his body, but he can't since he feels disgusted when he tries to consume it. This is why he's decided to treat his emeses with respect for the rest of his life. I hope they'll teach that too.
2016-11-15 11:27
Its not about learning to be religous, its about learning different peoples culture. Abd to realize how stupid religion really is. I have no problem with it being mandatory if its an objective class and if the teacher isnt religous
2016-11-15 13:17
I think it should be taught as a part in history classes and teachers should explain all the major religions. Also tell the children of the major atrocities done by the religious people - the genocides in the bible, the rapes, that religion supports slavery and the oppression of women, the crusades, the inquisition, the witch hunts in Europe, the modern examples of people killing other people in the name of deities. I don't mean to tell all this in a hateful way, just like one would explain the holocaust. Then children should decide if they want to be a part of such an organization and if they do, pick a religion.
2016-11-15 11:32
agree. How it was invented to control people. If you don't teach it at all, then people (after generations) might not remember how bad it was for our world. So they might repeat it in the future and come up with a new sci-fi religion type of stuff. Part of history classes would be perfect.
2016-11-15 11:42
I don't think a new major religion can pop. Seeing as how in the relevant societies people are becoming more and more sceptical towards religions warms me inside. Religions can't thrive when confronted with sceptisicm and are becoming a thing of the past as they should have long ago. They've had their part in the evolution of our species. And as people are better and better informed about nature, religions lose their influence and should disappear.
2016-11-15 12:02
Yes you are right. I don't believe a religion will pop up like Christianity, Islam or any other of the traditional religions. However I do feel like there is a danger of a new type of religions. That are not seen as a religion at first, but they are. Examples are like the people who believe in the stuff below: - Sumerian gods (Annunaki) - The Secret ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Secret_(book) ) - New Thought - many more I can't think of rn, but there is a huge list on wiki Sure these are FAR FAAAAAAR less harmful than the traditional ones and these are also more focused on the individual. So it's good in a way, as it helps people achieve their goals or feel safe. However these could easily turn into damaging religions like the old ones. As for example people who believe in Sumerian gods, many of them deny the evolution theory and do not trust science. Or they deny vaccines. The books written about the Annunaki are also crazy af. We humans are idiots, do you know what some people do when they read the following: "One possible answer involves the apparent longevity of the Anunnaki race. Their long lives were consistently and explicitly related to the ingestion of blood. From the viewpoint of ancient civilizations, primarily Sumerian and Egyptian, a substance called Star Fire was considered to be nothing less than the life-giving extract from the divine menstrual blood of the Goddess. In its original form, Star Fire was the lunar (menstrual) essence of one of the fourteen birth Goddesses." I'm not kidding you but some truly believe drinking menstrual blood is good for you. Or they believe that once you fuck your girlfriend during her lovely days of the month and cum inside her, she is the one that you should share your life with. I mean lots of crazy stuff. So imo it's easy for the humans to develop new religions with crazy ideas. And we should prevent that. People can believe whatever they want to believe, but they should keep it to themselves and don't do crazy stuff.
2016-11-15 12:23
Education, science and sceptisicm are the cures for those retardations.
2016-11-15 12:24
true
2016-11-15 12:26
#46
lynxi | 
Sweden lyNxiiii 
Your pointing out really good points. Agreed.
2016-11-15 12:30
#19
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Finland Waari 
Given it is a big aspect of the world I think it should be taught in a historical sense. An ethics class seems like a good option imo where all the major religions are discussed. It would also be very beneficial in countries with high immigration rates so the students that come from different cultures can be integrated into the society they live in and the differences can be discussed rationally.
2016-11-15 11:36
If you discuss religion with a muslim you are basically risking your life. They have very explosive temperament.
2016-11-15 12:07
#66
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Finland Waari 
I think improved discussion would act as a defuse kit.
2016-11-15 12:59
But what if there is 4 seconds left?
2016-11-15 13:01
Well in norwegian schools we have to learn about all the popular and not so popular religions. And it should actually be mandatory having to learn about it, if you don't know anything of any religion how are you suppose to not end up like Trump being afraid of every relegion because you have no idea what they stand.
2016-11-15 11:40
I think religion should be a part of history classes, nothing else.
2016-11-15 11:44
should history class be mandatory?
2016-11-15 11:49
We can learn a lot from our history. So yes
2016-11-15 11:56
#24
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North America Foxaika 
Depends on what you mean by religious studies, really.
2016-11-15 11:51
#30
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Pakistan perth 
We have HASS which is history+religious shit+all that boring shit mixed into one.
2016-11-15 12:05
Next semester i'm having "religion" class for the 1st time in my life (i'm 22). DIS GUNNA BE FUN
2016-11-15 12:13
Why its gonna be fun? They gonna thought u some shit what an old story book said. Very fun. And these ppl are actually believing it what makes it sad
2016-11-15 12:18
i Was being sarcastic. Eventhough it might be fun to listen to al the bullshit and joke about it.
2016-11-15 12:21
You should question everything and annoy the fuck out of your teacher :D
2016-11-15 12:25
#36
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Sweden cute! 
I think it should be, it helps people get more open minded.
2016-11-15 12:21
Do you think this should be a mandatory history class? Do you think this should be a mandatory math class? LMAO, these kids really think atheism makes them cool and smart...
2016-11-15 12:24
#44
lynxi | 
Sweden lyNxiiii 
Math actually makes sense, history are often true stories. But religion? Hell no, just look at flying spaghetti monster for example to prove how stupid it actually is.
2016-11-15 12:27
Your comment actually proves how stupid you are. "Atheism: It seeks to replace in itself the moral power of religion, in order to appease the spiritual thirst of parched humanity and save it; not by Christ, but by force." (c) Dostoevsky
2016-11-15 12:28
#49
lynxi | 
Sweden lyNxiiii 
And religion was created to control people, just look at christianity in europe, how people had to pay the church, based on lies and how much power the pope had ALSO based on lies.
2016-11-15 12:33
>and religion was created to control people Stop reading right here Do you think that you are smarter than everyone and have "critical thinking" or whatever it called? "The essence of religious feeling does not come under any sort of reasoning or atheism, and has nothing to do with any crimes or misdemeanors. There is something else here, and there will always be something else - something that the atheists will for ever slur over; they will always be talking of something else". (c) Dostoevsky
2016-11-15 12:38
#53
lynxi | 
Sweden lyNxiiii 
What happend when Martin Luther translated the bible into a language people understood? xD Why do I even argue with someone living in the past, it's 2017. Time to move forward.
2016-11-15 12:37
Thank for proving my point: atheists really think that they are smarter than everyone for no reason. I bet u are not older than 20 and just finished high school. edit: visited your profile. Guess what? I m right.
2016-11-15 12:42
#55
lynxi | 
Sweden lyNxiiii 
I'm in university, not older then 20, but i'm 19:-) Never pointed out i'm smarter, just that it is based on stupidty. GOD CREATED WORLD BLABLABLA Enjoy ur read en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_M..
2016-11-15 12:43
>it is based on stupidty Thats what you trying to say: I m smarter than you becouse I dont believe in your God. Thank for proving my point x2
2016-11-15 12:44
#57
lynxi | 
Sweden lyNxiiii 
My god? I have a god now? Based on what? I don't understand what you're trying to say now. Maybe the schools in Russia makes you believe that Putin is a god.
2016-11-15 12:46
1. your comment does not make sense. 2. when you dont have arguments - talk about your opponents`s personality or his country. Check Seems like I have make things clean for u: >it is based on stupidty what it actually means >I m smarter than people who believe in God.
2016-11-15 12:49
#64
lynxi | 
Sweden lyNxiiii 
You never pointed out what god you have, so can't really judge. The things I don't understand is how you still follow rules from a book written from decades ago. And a picture of how the world was created, people have already proved how the WORLD actually was created. comments on that? I'm glad to hear your points.
2016-11-15 12:54
>people have already proved how the WORLD actually was created. I guess* you mean Big Bang theory. >theory >proved en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unsolved_p..
2016-11-15 12:59
#72
lynxi | 
Sweden lyNxiiii 
Atleast I believe in science and not some "greater good" sitting up top in heaven creating people with his fingertop. :^) Did your parents brainwash you as a youngster?
2016-11-15 13:03
>Atleast I believe in science and not some "greater good" sitting up top in heaven creating people with his fingertop. :^) Did your parents brainwash you as a youngster? I guess you are done. In this conversation I never stated my relation to religion. But nt and thank you for proving my point x3 mr 19yo with critical thinking. Also your first sentence is: 1. hilarious 2. shows how smart you are lyNxiii 2k17: "greater good" sitting up top in heaven creating people with his fingertop. Rene Descartes: "By 'God', I understand, a substance which is infinite, independent, supremely intelligent, supremely powerful, and which created both myself and everything else [...] that exists. All these attributes are such that, the more carefully I concentrate on them, the less possible it seems that they could have originated from me alone. So, from what has been said it must be concluded that God necessarily exists"
2016-11-15 13:10
#79
lynxi | 
Sweden lyNxiiii 
I think your parents wrote this in ur console "exec brainwaish.exe <insert religion here>" Watch out so your god doesn't punish you.
2016-11-15 13:14
Your last argument was #56. But anyway thank you for representing atheism and proving my point x4. edit: u can also re-read whole our conversation and see, as I said, that I never stated my relation to religion.
2016-11-15 13:18
#87
lynxi | 
Sweden lyNxiiii 
So you're a religion sympathizer. But not actually religious, nice.
2016-11-15 13:20
Can you please show me where I express my sympathy for religion?
2016-11-15 13:22
#90
lynxi | 
Sweden lyNxiiii 
In every comment you've created so far. axaxa beach)) cyka vodka to heevy dunt kn0w wat i wrajt xD xD :P
2016-11-15 13:26
No arguments - instults. Checked. >In every comment you ve created so far. Explain*
2016-11-15 13:28
#94
lynxi | 
Sweden lyNxiiii 
You think you are smart cause you believe in god. Has god told you in your prayers that you're smart or what's the deal? Did he send you as some kind of holy protector of the almighty religion.
2016-11-15 13:31
Ok, now u just start baiting. >You think you are smart cause you believe in god. In this conversation I never said that I believe in God. Why u make such conclusions - I dont even understand. Also I still waiting for some arguments. ps: guy with nickname "FirstHLTVrapper" beat your ass in dialogue with all the arguments - you should be ashamed.
2016-11-15 13:35
#99
lynxi | 
Sweden lyNxiiii 
You just said "ass". I pray for you my friend, god will send you to hell now. Rip in pepperonis meine fruende.
2016-11-15 13:41
Hmm, as much as I enjoy Dostoevsky's talent as a writer, I think this statement is plain wrong. Atheism, at least in the modern sense, the Dawkins way, does not mean to replace religion, nor to save humanity. As I understand it, modern day educated and thinking atheists just want scientific explanations and proof on all natural phenomenons. For people like this, saying "god Jahwe/Allah/Odin did it, no need to research further!" is just not enough. There is dire need for evidence of the god that has done it, that's all. There is no moral high ground no one claims atheism is more moral in itself (although no people were killed for disagreeing that gods do not exist), nor a need to save humanity. There is nothing to be saved from. There is just this basic human curiosity and search of a better life that pushed our ancestors from Africa and into the entire planet.
2016-11-15 14:00
Well at least it makes them look smart? If you belive in religion it's most likely cus your parents brinwashed you.
2016-11-15 13:00
Or maybe becouse its everyones choice to believe or not? >well at least it makes them look smart? Thank for laught mr 14 yo atheist with critical thinking.
2016-11-15 13:02
Am not 14, do you even critical thinking....
2016-11-15 13:26
no...i mean why?
2016-11-15 12:26
You should teach ABOUT religion, but you shouldn't teach religion. A class involving theology, its impacts on society, etc is certainly beneficial - it would easily fit within a history class. Telling a child that there is a God and you must do x, y, and z to go to heaven is wrong though.
2016-11-15 12:49
Thank God someone smart in this thread.
2016-11-15 12:50
+1
2016-11-15 13:09
#70
stinx | 
Sweden günT 
Yes, as a person with strong anti-theist values I very much believe that religion should be taught in school. Religion has had vast impact on every society in the world, it still has and will have in the future as well. Few of you support Nazism, Stalinism and colonialism yet you still think that the youth should have knowledge about the topics. However, as irreligiosity has grown so strong, it should also be taught as it's a perspective that's never introduced in religion classes.
2016-11-15 13:02
indeed m8
2016-11-15 13:11
Basically what I was about to write. Religion is not something historical (yet) and it has a huge impact around most part of the world (even if its hard to believe in Scandinavia). It should indeed be part of the basic education. Well written post of you, cheers! :)
2016-11-15 14:22
Well theism is much more rational than atheism so why not ?
2016-11-15 13:08
VAC religion class plz
2016-11-15 13:13
No
2016-11-15 13:16
#95
Kaze | 
Malaysia Swattax 
tbh its the only reason i get shit grades
2016-11-15 13:31
No. Nobody should be forced to have their religion picked for him. If you want to be a good Christian and take orders from some fucking monkey fuck up there in the fucking sky, sure go on ahead. See, the smart person doesn't need handholding to figure the point of living.
2016-11-18 08:13
Yes. All children should be taught about world religions and what are their religious beliefs. This is general knowledge.
2016-11-18 08:18
Religion is one of the core bricks used in the foundation of the country, so ofcourse people should be taught religion. It's practically history, and knowing where you came from can get you closer to where you are going. An example: religion studies in Denmark told you how christianity has effected the country, and has almost died out. Religion studies in muslim countries usually ends up with allahu akbar and a bomb crater.
2016-11-18 08:24
Nothing wrong with objective study of religions at schools.
2016-11-18 10:13
+1 an objective study of the abrahamite religions in one subject. With a science based statement of their development and effect. Sadly that's not the case. There was no critic confrontation for me in school. We only read the fairytales out of the bible (evangelical course). From what I've heard it was even worse at the catholic one.
2016-11-18 13:53
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