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f0rest x cold IEM 2016
Brazil roleckor_ 
f0rest the MVP - cold - not the MVP just cuz lost in the grand finals - conclusions ??? you got to win to be MVP, otherwise you can perform good as fuck but wont win MVP!
2016-11-22 19:44
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Not really, scream got the mvp once when G2 loses to Sk
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2016-11-22 20:09
I think in ESEA pro league idk when
2016-11-22 20:28
thanks !
2016-11-22 20:31
But G2 won that torunment, and Scream performance was insane, worthy of that MVP.
2016-11-22 20:35
I remember to see a snapchat of him when they loses to SK on the finals "at leats I won the MVP"
2016-11-22 20:36
No. G2 won ECS 1000%
2016-11-22 20:38
hmmm ok
2016-11-22 20:38
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2016-11-23 18:22
it was Esl pro league finals think
2016-11-22 21:15
yeah something like
2016-11-23 18:00
There wasn't any HLTV MVP Award back then, you can win MVP without winning the tournament if it's another org that decides like fallen that won the ESLPL Brazil MVP n'y ESL but automatic won the hltv MVP
2016-11-23 18:12
hmmmmm ok
2016-11-23 18:46
Anyway f0rest better. Everyone know it
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Bulgaria kr9ptonn 
didnt knew youre supporting SK and coldzera
2016-11-22 20:25
He's a notorious NiP hater. His hate towards the NiP players is stronger than the hatred he feels for SK.
2016-11-22 20:38
Bulgaria kr9ptonn 
hes my brother))
2016-11-22 20:39
And a notorious NiP hater unfortunately.
2016-11-22 20:39
Bulgaria kr9ptonn 
I don't like NiP too
2016-11-22 20:39
That's not the point. I was simply explaining why he commented the way he did.
2016-11-22 20:42
hey thats not true I am not a notorious NiP hater
2016-11-22 20:40
Infamous NiP hater then?
2016-11-22 20:44
I would say legendary.
2016-11-22 20:45
Yeah, well. It's like being a legendary child rapist, not too much to be proud of.
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Finland Clang 
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Norway Karll 
true story
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Albania kev1K$ 
2016-11-23 18:10
Sri Lanka Coman 
1. f0rest 2. TACO because both of them made so many important kills which gave their teams a round. f0rest had the biggest impact on many games compared to TACO, cold etc. so he deserved it 100%
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2016-11-22 21:23
dude I understand if someone think cold was better, but its like, f0rest had so many impact on many games before the final, and did good in the final, and nip won, so... if sk would won = coldzera for sure, the problem with that scream mpv was, basicly him and shox alone were the reason they almost won the series, 1 player alone had so much impact, this tournment now if you think about sk and nip, f0rest and cold had a lot of impact but it wasnt like they were carrying hard single handed, scream and shox were on fire godmode supersayajin on that bo5 against lg, and lg was just playing perfect as a whole
2016-11-22 19:49
On this tournament Taco>Cold Taco had more impact than Cold.
2016-11-22 20:19
I can see that, but cold still killing too much people with dying only few times... but taco played crazy this tournment, he was even killing everyone with awp LOL like wtf, great tournment for taco, but the thing about cold is isnt surprise anymore, so as cold did same shit and taco stepped up seems like taco was better, but cold somehow still grinding like crazy
2016-11-22 20:32
Let me do the opposite, but with your logic behind it: conclusions ??? you got to have the best stats to be MVP, otherwise you can win the 1st place but wont win MVP! I have an idea. I'll get in the tournament, do 16x saves and get 16'0ed, but hey. I'll have 5+ rating and get the MVP since MVP = ratings, amirite? Grow a brain.
2016-11-22 19:51
you went full retarded, what a shit analogy. lets be realistics you faggot.
2016-11-22 19:52
Oh really? You're mad because cold didnt get MVP and he had best stats. And i'm the retarded one? haha
2016-11-22 20:17
im not mad, i dont give a crap about them, i putted here just a refletion you know, so we can discuss a little bit, you got mad btw ;D
2016-11-22 20:26
You clearly do since you took the time to post something about it. I'll repeat the main point. Why would cold get the mvp? Just because of the ratings?
2016-11-22 20:27
Netherlands installwizard 
you rekt him good son
2016-11-22 20:37
You seem to be pretty mad tbh.
2016-11-22 20:40
no im not, im having a beer here, laughing at you guys getting triggered.
2016-11-23 00:04
there is nothing to discuss
2016-11-22 20:54
look how many replys that shit took, nothing to discuss ? pretty dummb hey.
2016-11-23 00:02
almost everyone agrees that f0rest was the mvp, except some salty guys - by coincidence from brazil. dno who's dumb here
2016-11-23 00:09
when i said that cold should've been the MVP?
2016-11-23 01:07
where did i say you said it?
2016-11-23 01:07
nice kkk so we both are just arguing for nothing, good night, bye.
2016-11-23 01:36
World mackzim 
stats are not everything, f0rest had so many impacting and important plays and to be honest most of cold kills are made by baiting taco and fer.
2016-11-22 19:51
stats doesn't mean anything, forest got more impact plays, that's why he is mvp
2016-11-22 19:54
Getting exit kills, eco kills and non factor frags will not boost you that high.
2016-11-22 19:54
you guys aways say that stats are not everything, but when a guy gets -1 rating even with the team winning you came here and start BOT BOT BOT ... i dont get it, make up you mind aready
2016-11-22 19:55
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Turkey koshmar 
f0rest got the MVP award before the final match, Didn't he?
2016-11-22 19:55
yes i are think that too
2016-11-22 20:16
he got some g-fuel bullshit mvp award. he didn't get HLTVs before the final
2016-11-22 20:21
France Wyrd 
If you really carry your shit team to a final and lose to a team where the 5 players all played good, you can actually be MVP. f0rest carried a supposedly worse team than SK to the title while coldzera was the better player in a (#1/2) team that reached the final. It's that simple. Add the fact that fallen was the best in their 1/4 and fer was the best in their semis and you get your conlcusion.
2016-11-22 20:00
Yes, f0rest carried NiP almost every single match.
2016-11-22 20:26
Brazil Charizaldo 
There is one thing you need to consider. Coldzera's ADR is not always the highest on the team which means that many of his kills are just completing the damage done by his teammates. He's a killing machine but SK work as a whole is essential for that to happen.
2016-11-22 20:02
cold= eco fragger
2016-11-22 20:03
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Other flynttt 
i think taco did a better job then cold on iem, u would say mvp would fit better on him this tournament but f0rest totally deserved
2016-11-22 20:07
cry :DDDD ez f0rest <3
2016-11-22 20:07
coldzera is better than f0rest in practically every aspect but MVP is getting chosen from winning team so
2016-11-22 20:10
the mvp vote was BEFORE the grand final. to me as an impartial observer coldzera was the best player on the server throughout the whole tournament. noone has to like several players personalities but you can't deny his skills.
2016-11-22 20:16
Im a fan of forest and I always found coldzera to be overrated and I still agree with you, coldzera was a BEAST this tournament and had a huge part in why nip almost lost the finals (which they should've done). I can understand why forest got it, stats doesn't say it all and forest had many huge impact rounds. But coldzera was the better player this tournament.
2016-11-22 20:16
i thought he got the mvp before the final. atleast when they gave it to him the stage host said that you have one more game, so the nip vs sk game doesnt have any effect to it
2016-11-22 20:17
heg | 
Slovakia B0R0 
none cares about faggotzera
2016-11-22 20:19
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World Vechnyp 
if you look stats, valde was actually the best player of that event, getting 1.24 rating while his entire team had 0.92 average rating
2016-11-22 20:23
Brazil Summitk1 
F0rest > coldzera #FALLSKG
2016-11-22 20:28
Portugal dracø 
Taco was the real mvp of this tournament tho. Neither cold nor f0rest had the amount of impact that taco was able to pull
2016-11-22 20:30
Poland Drunkenstein 
Cold best eco fragger
2016-11-22 20:30
I can't imagine who the MVP would be if SK didn't fuck-up in the round 27th of cobble, where they gave three easy kills to f0rest in danger. After that SK forced in the next three rounds and lost the game, they were in shock. f0rest had near no impact after that 27th round where mistakes were made. Or even if SK manages to win the force in the next round and break NiP's economy with a 15-13 scoreline and win the series with a normal execute using all utility on B or A site, would f0rest still be the MVP of the torunment? Don't get me wrong, he is definitely the best player in the history of CS behind Neo, but this MVP, in my opinion, was not deserved. Not because I'm brazilian or because cold had a better performance overall, but because his performance was not stellar, not worthy of a MVP in this torunment, I know how good he is, I know how good he can be, but I feel like in this torunment he didn't show all he can do. I watched almost all SK's game and I know that cold didn't farm on eco frags and had tons of impact kills and clutches in the torunment. Again boys, this is my and only my opinion on the matter.
2016-11-22 20:32
To be honest if NiP lose the grand final taco deserved more than cold, entryfragger, crazy clutches he played better overall, cold is always the last guy to die. PS : cold is a beast
2016-11-22 21:11
Because HLTV understand that if they give any recognition to SK whatsoever, the retards among their fanbase run around screaming their little furry heads off about how great and unmatched their team is, despite the fact they havent won a tournament since the last major.
2016-11-22 20:34
Sweden X-rAy 
coldzera stats are a is that.. beast
2016-11-22 20:35
Denmark Baitvice 
idiot brazilians like you think only rating matters, please uninstall.
2016-11-22 20:38
shox | 
Portugal NAOverEU 
2016-11-22 20:43
but he didnt
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shox | 
Portugal NAOverEU 
? He did bro. LOL look at his twitter
2016-11-23 01:13
not the offical one
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shox | 
Portugal NAOverEU 
he won the official tournament one, this is the HLTV award lol
2016-11-23 21:22
that was a fucking fanvoting who cares
2016-11-23 21:23
coldzera is overrated. his stats are high no matter if SK is winning or losing. Taco on the other hand gets the important kills so he's the real MVP in SK. f0rest > all of SK though.
2016-11-22 20:46
coldzera is finishing of targets doing like 50 damage on every kill. when he clutches all the players are already low. also alot of eco kills.
2016-11-22 21:10
brazilians put your tears in this \________/ for the thirsty children in africa
2016-11-22 21:20
f0rest got mvp before game even started... btw fallen got mvp in sao paulo, should've be autimatic
2016-11-22 21:29
Not the case at all, f0rest and Coldzera both played very well and consistently. I give it to f0rest because he hits incredible figures whilst not being the centre of NiP's strategy. Coldzera is the centre of SK's strategy, he is always set up for plays, clutches and other frags.
2016-11-23 00:13
Brazil ztxizhan 
fnxNTC > f0rest even in 1.6
2016-11-23 01:13
Sweden ShageN 
nice b8
2016-11-23 23:17
i guess so
2016-11-23 01:21
F0rest > coldzera F0rest > SK NiP > NiP
2016-11-23 18:06
Dominican Republic fernandieftw 
2016-11-23 18:13
who cares about stats? f0rest earned the MVP
2016-11-23 18:23
dude you've been in this site more than anyone else here, u should be used to those nerds. cause according to hltv : stats > everything else gud states means best player. thats how everyone's mind works in here
2016-11-23 21:27
I know I know. I can still correct people :)
2016-11-23 23:10
Coldzera is an eco hunter, always padding stats with eco kills. No shit he will have a good rating when that's his role in SK
2016-11-23 21:30
Sweden ShageN 
2016-11-23 23:18
f0rest got mvp in dh winter 14 and the lost
2016-11-23 21:32
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