Forum thread: zowie mouse

logitech g403 bestest

2016-12-10 21:52

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for claw or fingertip bruh?

2016-12-10 21:53

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Logitech g403 is perfect with palm... but for me CLAW > Finger. It depends on you

2016-12-10 23:08

Just buy the g pro.

2016-12-10 21:55

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do you try it with claw grip m8?

2016-12-10 21:56

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G Pro is a great mouse its more like Zowie FK2.

2016-12-11 15:35

Look up how coldzera and s1mple holds their za mices and become good I have Zowie fk2 and ec2. Fk2 is really flat though so won't work good with claw. Ec2 is too small to hold full palm but it has its own unique grips, claw works on it

2016-12-10 21:56

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But why new mouse though Im thinking of getting the ZA13

2016-12-10 21:57

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i got za 13 now and its not "most comfy" for claw grip i play godlike on claw compared topalm

2016-12-10 21:59

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i have za12 and its perfect for claw/fingertip grip ;d

2016-12-10 23:33

some photos i try find it and i cant..

2016-12-10 21:57

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I'm sitting here imagining that the shape of ZA with it building up towards the end of the mouse should fit me good. Doesn't it feel accurate and stable to hold? Even with claw? I mean since you can have that round end in your palm it should be tracking every move perfectly

2016-12-10 22:00

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i played one year on palm grip with it my aim was great one day another bad but i changed sensitivity too often now i play second day on claw grip and i cant believe how big difference it is you can make far more accurate moves with it btw za 12 would fit better for you

2016-12-10 22:02

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Why za 12? I own a fk2 which is the smallest version of fk series and I think it might be too small but the smaller the easier and better

2016-12-10 22:04

should i get fk1 or za 11? using palm grip

2016-12-10 22:45

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hmm I would say each Zowie mice, ec. Fk, za is unique in its own way so it's really all about a risk to take when buying one From my experience the EC2 is a great accurate small mouse that lets you use various of different grips. I have always felt confident when playing with the EC2 mouse, when you hold it good it feels like it tracks every single move. My experience with the fk2 is that it's a really flat mouse that (I find) quite awkward to claw grip. But palm good work but it feels too small for that. But one thing I gotta say is that the fk is naturally better for precise aiming. With the fk I always hit the first shot, while on the ec i never fail the spray and always play consistent. They're too different mice but I gotta say ec2 feels amazing to hold. You shouldn't get a too big or too small mouse either, I heard the smaller the better since it's easier to aim. But I'm not able to fully palm the ec2 or fk2 without having to rest on the mousepad/fingers going over past the mouse (18,5cm hands when I checked in June). I recommend watching rocket jump ninja, 10/10 simple professional reviews of all Zowie mice. youtu.be/E_jkIWCyvE0 youtu.be/WKJ5Cqk0IrI

2016-12-10 23:00

But I'm also going to mention that I have both the fk2 and ec2 plugged in and I can switch in game and basically play the same. I'm also curious to get a ZA mouse to try out. So just go for one and use it for few months and then go from there if it was bad

2016-12-10 23:03

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thanks :)

2016-12-10 23:08

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np :) Just wanted to get the words out there since I've been buying a lot of mice and don't want others to buy something that's totally wrong

2016-12-10 23:09

youtu.be/zBFhjIOeTiA youtu.be/x_P1tBi8hZA

2016-12-10 23:06

if you have pig ha... I mean big hands go for ec1-a with palm imo

2016-12-11 00:23

Buy your self an Rival 300...

2016-12-10 22:07

I palm on ec-1a and claw on g403...

2016-12-10 22:09

SS Sensei is the best!

2016-12-10 22:11

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Zowie fk2 == ss sensei with a better sensor

2016-12-11 15:42

best zowie claw mouse is fk2 source: me I tried all mice.

2016-12-10 22:13

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Really? Using it right now it's flat af only works with like finger tip

2016-12-10 22:18

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yes it's flat, that's true and I love it. dunno it feels best for me. Maybe I have some sort of claw/fingertip mix but I bascially claw very hard I'd say. My palm doesn't touch a thing, my wrist keeps the pressure and grip tense (backside). I have the ZA13 as my 2nd choice but it's not comfortable for CS somehow, at least I haven't as much CONTROL. First I thought it's too small but the ZA12 is too big, can't get a tight grip with it. I use the FK2 only for CSGO and the ZA13 for everything else. If I had a palm grip I would go for ergonomic mices like g403, ec-2a or DA for sure...but sadly I'm not or can't get used to them/it. I had them all btw except the FK1+ I played with the G502 for a while but this thing is just too heavy (as the Finalmouse Ergo is too light). The Logitech is a wonderful mouse though...

2016-12-11 00:19

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I see, You don't feel like you got control on the ZA? The reason I might get it is because it feels like I will have more control. It looks like a FK but with a round ending towards the back so you can hold it like a ball, should be insanely comforting? My hands might be too big for the FK2, I just can't hold it in an consistent way so everytime I pick it up I need to find a new way of holding. The reason I'm looking into the ZA mouse and trying out the FK is because I've recently been having pains with the EC2 (been using it constantly for 2,5 years now) so it should probably be the time to get something new. But what are really the main differences between the fk2 and ZA13? I would use the FK2 if I could just grip it better and hit more flicks with it, I'm only good at ak 1 tapping with it lol You think I can improve that with ZA13?

2016-12-11 13:56

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the shape my friend esreality.com/files/thumbnails/2015/1052.. ZA is also palm grip friendly, the FK is made for claw (official statement from Zowie) did you consider to try out the FK1? it's just slightly bigger than the FK2 but could fit for you better? but if you feel comfortable with a mouse and can hit the flicks everything else will come in time I'd say. just go and get used to it.

2016-12-11 21:31

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1 hour after I wrote that I actually went in town and tried out a FK1, weird coincidence. I thought you only could buy them online. Yeah the fk1 shape felt magical, but I soooo so bad wanna try out a ZA mouse. Maybe I can find a store that can let you try ZA, this store didn't have it. Well I'm going to play during holidays with fk2 and if it works but too small I'll go for fk1 and if it sucks I'll take a risk and go for ZA thx for the link

2016-12-11 23:44

Have you ever used the MS 1.1? Which zowie mouse would you say is the closest to it? I've used a 1.1 and MS 3.0 in the past and now I'm using a Rival 300 but would like to come back to a mouse similar to the 1.1, not really sure which one tho.

2016-12-11 19:55

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I had the MS 1.1 once but I cannot remember how the shape actually feels in the hand therefore it's hard for me to compare. From the look I'd say Zowie ZA series (or Steelseries Kana but those are pretty average).

2016-12-11 21:27

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The kanas are average or the ZAs also?

2016-12-12 00:19

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no! sensor is great, buttons's are pretty solid/good and if the shape fits for you it's a great mouse imo.

2016-12-12 19:15

ec2-a

2016-12-10 22:14

thanx so far

2016-12-10 22:17

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just check what most of the proplayers that use claw/fingertip use..... you will see that ec2-a is the most used hands down..... the 2nd is the deathadder

2016-12-10 22:26

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f0rest use like fingertip etc and he have g400 right

2016-12-10 22:27

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he is using ec2-a

2016-12-10 22:36

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thanx a lot m8

2016-12-10 22:40

ec2-a has been amazing for my claw grip. Logitech g303 close second really amazing mouse aswell

2016-12-10 22:43

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i will buy it probably thanx a lot

2016-12-10 22:45

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youtu.be/zBFhjIOeTiA youtu.be/ug9ZoNB1UNk youtu.be/x_P1tBi8hZA

2016-12-10 23:05

2016-12-11 19:14

i use g303 with claw grip. but you should buy it only if you dont have so big hands

2016-12-10 23:35

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weird mouse + the chord is too stiff.

2016-12-11 00:21

ZOWE EC3-S

2016-12-11 00:24

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the dream

2016-12-11 15:44

they say zowie has fucked up scrolls. idk tho..

2016-12-11 13:59

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Got 3 Zowie mice, all 3 has perfect :D (even the one still after 2 years)

2016-12-11 14:01

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they say so many shit about them. which models you prefer?

2016-12-11 14:02

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No dude they're all perfect :D I own 2x EC2 (1 old version 1 new) and fk2, they all have good mouse wheel, perfect. I use mouse wheel to jump and they work after long time gaming as good as they were when new. I can't really recommend any specific model, they're all unique and it comes down to your grip and hand size. Last time I measured in June my hands were about 18,5 CM and my hands has for sure grown since then. Right now I feel like the FK2 is too small for me to be able to use it. I was just at the store and tried a fk1 and felt amazing, so much control. Find mice that looks like the Zowie models and go to a store and try them out and then just go for one. 65 euros isn't the end of the world if it was wrong. I suggest searching "Rocket Jump Ninja Zowie" on YouTube and you'll find 10/10 professional Zowie mice reviews of all models. He also recommends which hand size you should have for each mouse

2016-12-11 15:34

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thanks so much for the advice, man.

2016-12-11 17:58

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No problem bro :) You should really check him out Btw, played with my FK2 this whole afternoon and it turned out decent, maybe I can use this mouse. I'm planning to use it during the holidays and switch back to my EC2 if my performance was bad :) But if you're interested in the FK mice and got bigger hands than 18,5 CM, maybe FK1 will be safer to go with since its bigger and more comfy to hold

2016-12-11 18:40

the older models wheels are mediocre, the new BenQ ones have good ones, they feel more mechanical and crisp rather than soft and quiet like most other i have the new Za13 benq and it's great

2016-12-11 14:04

Get another Za. best mouse on the market for claw grip. Za13 is what i have, but i honestly would like to change it to a za12 or 11, the 13 is just a bit too small.

2016-12-11 14:05

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Could you check your hand size lmao? I got 18,5 cm hands and interested in getting the ZA13 but I don't wanna be like you thinking it's too small

2016-12-11 18:41

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it's not so small that it's unusable, but i would prefer it to be just a bit bigger. I have 19.5 ish hand size

2016-12-11 19:24

G303 or GPro

2016-12-11 15:37

s1mple playing on zowie za13 csgopedia.com/players/s1mple/ Look how he’s holding his mouse youtu.be/ETdtedDhZE0?t=7s

2016-12-16 00:39