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Skadoodle has been playing pretty poorly for almost a year now and it is time that C9 switch things up. Maikelele is a good awper that is available and speaks English and doesn't need be told where and how to play every round like Skadoodle does. Opinions?
Well he is a problem and this is a fix.
Ur so fucking dumb like holy shit
Everyone blames Skadoodle when C9 loses, but usually when C9 loses its because Stewie or Autimatic have a bad game. Shroud isn't in a position to top frag so they blame him as well. Skadoodle is a great pistol player, rifler, AWPer, and clutch player. We know him for his big clutches, but when he doesn't win those ridiculously hard 1v4s with the AWP with 5 seconds left chat is like "KICK SKADOODLE"
He wasn't "just holding a nade in his hand all round" thats such a hyperbole it's not even worth countering.
Shroud stepped down from the star player role well before this post, in fact it was right around the time that they won EPLS4 (about 2 months after he joined) that shroud moved to the support role and Autimatic became the star player responsible for closing out rounds. And to clarify it was shroud's idea to move to support, no one elses. Shroud saw that Autimatic was capable of doing his role as good, if not better than him and shroud no longer wanted to be the star of the team.
autimatic is a support player he plays a role very similar to coldzera lmao, hes like 2nd/3rd one in
its more like if stewie has a bad game then cloud9 will start to fall apart, but if autimatic cant clean up after stewie then things get even worse. if stewie has a good game then autimatic doesnt have to play as good. this team is centered around stewie getting picks
Coldzera's role is to clean up rounds for the team, that doesn't make him a support, a supports job is to set up the entry fraggers and get their star players into position/after plant situations, that WAS fnx and is now TACO because Felps is now entry fragging for the team. Coldzera was never a support player but you clearly don't see it that way so this argument is pointless.
However in C9s situation it is a little more less dependent on Autimatic finishing rounds for the team because Stewie is such an explosive entry fragger and they have somewhat built the team around that, however the point still stands that if Autimatic isn't having a good game then they have a hard time winning in end round situations due to the inconsistency of n0thing.
Shroud and n0thing need to go and add a coach :>
n0thing has been playing better than skadoodle and Shroud. He should be the last to go.
n0thing isn't the problem. He plays a supportive role, so his stats seem bad when they lose but he is doing the same thing when they win. skadoodle has been ok recently, with less options, so shroud would be the obvious one, as he could easily be replaced by someone that could do a way better job in his position.
Yeah agree that n0thing isn't as bad as shroud but n0thing should still have more impact and yeah skadoodle has been doing okay recently 100% on shroud needing to go
Skadoodle and n0thing are both inconsistent and have their games and streaks, but when they are not playing absurdly well like they both can, n0thing is more valuable as a support player than Skadoodle as a 5k decoy.
Skadoodle is not adreN, sure he hasn't been amazing in a long time but he's been doing okay recently, and i'm sure an awper is more important to be focused on but c9's performance is dragged down by n0thing and shroud's inconsistency
yeah,if you watch their matches he is doing impact frags
not in December when I made that reply.
didnt notice but n0thing is still doing pretty well with support role as he is still impactful player
that is like saying fnatic is the best team in beginning of 2016, then in 2017 you reply saying hahaha, your dumb.
+1 for elige. he is a god
Skadoodle has been second to top rating or higher (1st) in cloud9's last 5 maps. Maybe try to think before you jump on the anti-skadoodle bandwagon without looking at any stats or watching any games.
The game vs Renegades he was 2nd on the board, but third in frags, and in the tyloo game, he was only second because of two assists, not because of his k-d. He has had a few ok games. He could be replaced by someone like Maikelele who is much better to further elevate Cloud 9. Even if he is not doing bad, he isn't doing well, and he could be replaced by someone that could.
But since Cloud9 wants to stick with NA, Skadoodle is there best bet. And Cloud9's problems go past much more than the skill of the players. There are stuff that go on internally which is why there are many slow starts or having good starts then everyone shutting down. It goes farther than having Skadoodle, or any player for that means, not living up to your expectations, even though he lives up to the teams most of the time.
C9 could look international now though, they could shift their view. In the pst they almost signed get_right. Both of us however have no clue about the internals of c9 ad what is best for them though. They could all be mad at skadoodle for underpreforming, or they could be content, your right. but IMO, ever since Sean left, Skadoodle just doesn't seem to fit in that lineup to me.
Stewie could also be not properly placing Skadoodle on the map, he is just too new to IGLing. I feel he will get much better over time and will probably be really good after the new year. Usually, unless he's off, Skadoodle hits shots, which is why I think that part of Skadoodle's "slump" is because of Stewie's newness to IGLing. Even though you can't really call it a slump, most people are just comparing him to how he used to be, back in Summer 2015.
I think that is the biggest problem. Sean could set ska up so well and Stewie can't. TBH i don't think he will ever get is down as well as Sean did during the summer. IMO, Ska just doesn't fit the play style of C9 anymore.
Completely agree. I feel the only way that Skadoodle could maybe return as a top-tier AWPer is if Cloud9 changed there playstyle to more center around the AWP and Skadoodle. I feel like a good replacement would probably be another rifler. Stewie could pick up the AWP in places they need it, like mirage window, dust 2 mid, etc.
That is why I think Maikelele would be so good. He can play rifles pretty well and he can awp. He also has IGL experience so he would know how to play to get in the right position without Stew's instruction.
He could work, but for me, I can't see it happening anytime soon.
Maikel isnt a good awper
his a good player tho and good with pistols and rifles
sometimes he goes off with the awp, especially in NiP
but for all other teams he has sucked with the awp
and the 2ndary awper taking his spot like right away
If anyone is the problem it's shroud. However I think they just need to get a good coach
I agree that Shroud is a problem and they need a coach, but Maikelele is still better than Skadoodle, and it wouldn't be hard for c9 to incorporate another star player into their system. Maikelele built Kinguin around the a group of incredible aimers with no strats and they did ok. If c9 has Stew, Auti, N0thing, Maikelele, and one other with a good coach and stewie's igling, it would be amazingg.
Shroud's role is the problem imo. The skill is there but similarly to stewie2k who learnt to thrive in a pug environment, he is not suited to a support role. They should either be willing to grant him more autonomy in game to do what he wants or get rid of him. He has the talent but it's useless if you can't get it out of him (imo).
The last few Tournaments even tho c9 has been doing bad skadoodle has been actually playing better. so he could be on the rise. Also I think adding Maikelele wouldn't solve anything because he is not a steady awp he is a impact awper. Which c9 is not in need of because they have stew auti for big impact and when c9 was playing well nothing was the one having some good games and in the games he was underperforming he still got impact kills.
-kjaerbye
+konfig
Maikelele is so fucking bad. Most overrated player in the scene lul. 2017 and ppl still think that he is good loooool maikelele ahahahah ...
Skadoodle is the one you'd take out? Lmfaoo.
they need IGL and shroud to be full support.
so -n0thing
but c9 is a brand, so nothing will happen