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Top 5 Empires of the world
Sweden mohamed_gustavson 
5 - Ottoman Empire Yes.. They changed Europe back in the Renaissance. Everyone feared them. And they conquered anything they want. 4 - Qing Dynasty/China With 10% of the Earth, you cant ignore this empire that existed in the 20th century. 3 - British Empire The empire where the sun never sets... Fros east to west of the planet.. The last "big empire" we had in our world... God save the queen. 2 - Mongol Empire Again an Empire that changed the world. Almost 25% of the Earth was theirs.. They had superior tactics, and razed and raped more cities and womans than you can think. 1 - Roman Empire You really cant compete with them. SQPR was and still is the greatest empire ever. We still hear about them, like they were here yesterday. They were so dominant and so much better and powerful than other nations back in the time.. A lot of factors made them crumble, but they still live until today. Half of the world still speak their language and their costumes. Ave Caesar!
2017-01-09 13:42
Mongol empire only destroys I think Ottoman top1-2-3
2017-01-09 13:44
Russian Empire = top1 rest isn't relevant. /closed.
2017-01-09 14:14
+1
2017-01-09 15:56
lol, Russian empire achieved nothing. Just raped and pillaged Siberia
2017-01-09 16:23
"achieved nothing" that what ur politicians say in estonJJJaaaaa won mongols won Napoleon won 1 ww won 2nd ww space thechnology kalashnikov great writers great scientists great composers first radio sry don't have enough space to write all achievements
2017-01-11 04:53
u forgot architecture ^^
2017-01-11 08:18
Winlands empire always rules yall going down on me 2night so; wagwan piffting whats ur bbm pin
2017-01-11 14:13
I'll continue TETRIS Chernobyl (may sound bad but if it weren't for this better safety protocols and redundant features wouldn't have been implemented.)
2017-01-11 08:20
hahahahahahahahah
2017-01-11 13:35
only wasnt russian empire in ww1 and after then it was soviet
2017-01-11 13:41
winter won napoleon ;) russians were running like cowards
2017-01-11 15:51
like the rest of europe, idiot...
2017-04-11 15:31
Well, the Russian Empire lost ww1, the rest is right. Saying they won is like saying France won ww2.
2017-01-11 22:53
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I Russia and France did most damage towards enemy in 1ww in 2ww Soviet did almost 80 damage of all towards Germany, 75% native rus 25% kazakhs,ua's, belarus, kyrgyz, uzbekh, armen
2017-01-11 23:17
you forgot vodka putin cyka blayt
2017-01-11 23:20
Russian empire didnt exist after 1917 when it became soviet union so it couldnt achieve anything after defeating napoleon.
2017-01-12 00:01
+1000 long live Russia.. seriously
2017-04-11 15:15
*lost ww1
2017-04-11 15:30
+1
2017-01-10 16:12
2017-01-11 02:42
ottoman's empire coulndt move any further as they came to croatia xoxo
2017-01-12 03:41
OTTOMAN AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA ALREADY STOPPED READING
2017-01-09 13:45
Well then go read some history books
2017-01-09 13:45
no need i destroyed the whole shit empire in battlefield 1 already
2017-01-09 13:46
1914 ottoman lmao
2017-01-09 13:48
yeah a joke since 1914
2017-01-09 13:50
+ I agree
2017-01-09 13:53
Not a joke as big as "third reich" lul. Mad cuz all your empire attempts failed miserably.
2017-01-09 15:38
im happy they failed, world would be horrible today if they didnt. also i dont get why you make fun of the country that gives your countrymens and familymembers the possibility to survive
2017-01-09 15:39
LUL +1
2017-01-11 13:42
that's precisely why you should go read some history books, Empire ottoman was already 600years old in 1914..
2017-01-09 14:11
a joke since 1314 then
2017-01-09 14:12
poor boy..
2017-01-09 14:15
im rich actually
2017-01-09 15:40
but poor mentally XD LUL
2017-01-11 22:59
so? i can buy happiness
2017-01-11 23:19
And you retreated in 1914 LOL
2017-01-09 14:53
In fact that's exactly what they did NOT in 1914.
2017-01-09 17:35
Wait yes that's what happened have you not heard of the initial German success invading through Belgium and basically pushing the French forces to the Marne? I think it was the Marne where with British help they managed to halt the German attack and after that the trench warfare started to basically be a thing as both sides dug in.
2017-01-10 10:05
The French main army was set up for an offensive strategy, plan XVII en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan_XVII They launched multiple offensives en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Fron.. The tactical retreat to the Marne was the result of important Belgium fortifications being already cracked open, the remains of the Belgian army having to retreat to their national redoubt in Antwerp and Northern British and French units being pushed back. If the French main army had not given up on their offensive and "retreaded" to their own heavily fortified line, there would have been a huge risk of the main army being attacked from two sides or even cut off (not to mention that the Germans could just have marched through the Northern corridor and threatened Paris). That "retreat" was a simple tactical maneuver that became absolutely necessary to stop and finally even defeat the Germans. 4 year of war ahead, where they held their lines. With the French army doing the absolute majority of all fighting. But keep up the good old "French only wave white flag" bullshit, nice internet meme spread by people with no understanding of history.
2017-01-10 13:29
Ok you need to chill first of all I have learned in my school what I typed but since you are from France or a nearby country you have probably learned way more then I have. I am more of a 18th century line battle and ww2 guy and yes i know history it's my favorite subject in school and no I do not only listen to the teatchers I look up things myself. And my first comment was a joke I'm actually the one that usually comments on other people that are hating on the French. I hope I didn't offend anyone excuse me. Viva la France or however you spell it xD
2017-01-10 23:23
Then before commenting shit you should learn history by yourself its better than school, or get a better teacher lol reference.com/history/won-world-war-ecee.. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hundred_Days_Off..
2017-01-11 08:14
I hope you do know that the sole reason that France wasn't conquered was in fact that Belgium lasted longer than the Germans did expect, causing them heavy losses and shortage in both food and material. And the Belgians mainly retreated behind the Ijzer river where one of the biggest parts of the war was fought next to Somme and Verdun. But as you said, the French didn't retreat, but they lived because of the Belgian and we lived because the Britains with the rest of the Commonwealth like Canada, Australia and Ireland. Tyne Cot Cemetry isn't a joke within our small country
2017-01-11 04:52
You are so stupid, but so ridiculously stupid, The whole westfront reached from the harbor of Seabruges over Somme over Verdun to the swiss border. The Battle of the Marne wasn't even fought at the Marne but at another river close. They never managed to break through neither did they do in Belgium.
2017-01-11 04:48
Look at my comment no.154 and calm down....
2017-01-11 06:56
I saw that but if that is all you know then I don't understand why you put up a statement like that. "It's on the Internet so it must be true" sorry it really pisses me off, here the war is still very actual, in west-flanders they revover each year insane ammounts of bombs and we're forced to visit a war cemetry with school in last grade. And when it comes to betraying in WOII, people shouldn't shit on the grench just blindly, your country helped the Germans and our king even talked to hitler. There is a lot more that people don't know, but the internetmemes those are the truth am I right?
2017-01-11 13:38
No they didn't, you idiot, they retreated in WO II not in WO I. And at least they weren't cowards like your country selling shit to the germans. Worst is, if you guys wouldn't have sold and helped the germans than Sweden would have been a pigscountry to this day
2017-01-11 04:41
Well again I just go on what I have had learned but as the typical HLTV user you don't give a damn about my other comments explaining and of course uses my country as an example of being cowards. There are reasons why we didn't join in both ww1 and ww2 you know other then trading with the Germans. Who was one of the wealthiest country's during the 50s and 60s Sweden becuase we used the wars to become richer and profited from the war instead of fighting it.
2017-01-11 06:59
french gov were cowards in ww2 deporting jews (not saying that is bad) and many french helped the nazis, germans asked them 5000 jews but they sent 13000, made camps, fought in their side etc... But well the french defeat was obvious, fighting with horses against ger tanks in th start of ww2, lebel gun from ww1, the only thing we had was the number we had 5.000.000, germans 2.000.000, the battle of france was one of the biggest defeat in french history But for me, the frenchies that collaborated were cowards, and it was most of them
2017-01-11 08:19
I know but he was talking about the french being white flags in wo I, while that's where they got their fame. Sadly the war heroes of the first one collaborated with hitler during the second one. And besides that, even if he'd talk about WO II it's indirectly due to Sweden that the Germans managed ro conquer so much.
2017-01-11 13:42
Hahaha yeah right becuase swedens iron helped Germany conquer basically all of Central Europe don't really think so think it was more becuase of Germany's blitzkrieg tactics and their great generals. And yes I'm not going to deny that the iron didn't help it kinda did a little bit but not so much that if we had stopped trading with the Germans they would not have been able to conquer Central Europe.
2017-01-11 22:56
It wasn't only that, they made use of the swedish railnetwork to retreat or bring troops to the frontline, to add supplies. If you guys would have stopped sending iron they would have just invaded you as well, Sweden was as well on the "to conquerlist" of the Germans. Btw they didn't really conquer central europe, it was more like, Austria yeah we take that, part of Czechia, yep we take that too etc till they split up Poland with the Russians
2017-01-11 23:18
Wait you do realize that the Germans only used the rail network against Norway and it was not used that often. And yes it's true with the iron but what I meant with my text is that it isn't swedens fault that Germany conquered much of europe. We just did what we had to do to survive and it turned out to be the right call. And yes Germany did conquer Central Europe all the nations in Central Europe was basically allied to the Germans or under German occupation Poland France Czechoslovakia Romania Hungary the Netherlands and Belgium and that's pretty much Central Europe xD
2017-01-11 23:44
Central Europe is Austria, Hungary etc not the fucking Netherlands, France or Belgium. That's considered to Western-Europe and they just steamrolled that. And the yeah I did know that, it's kinda hard to use the Swedish railnetwork to conquer Britain you know ...
2017-01-11 23:47
Yeah I forgot xD yeah you are right my mistake and the thing with the railway it sounded in your last comment that you thought they used it every time to transport troops xD
2017-01-11 23:49
aight let's leave it here? Peace treaty of HLTV? ;)
2017-01-11 23:51
Yep agreed :)
2017-01-11 23:52
Ottoman were a giant empire back in the 15th - 18th century. Half of the Europe had to coallition against them, in order to keep them in check.
2017-01-09 13:47
only because they made 10+ kids to get more ahrtz iv from germany. if they were so great why is turkey such a "shitty" country nowadays?
2017-01-09 13:49
We are shitty now because of education. Ottoman sucked cuz of this as well
2017-01-09 13:51
Well, they made the janissaries.. Wasnt the best moral act, but it worked back in the time. And your last sentence makes no sense whatsoever. The balance of the world always changes.. What is Mongolia now a days?? Does that means they werent a big empire??
2017-01-09 13:52
Yes but then some bad sultans fucked it as always in history of turks
2017-01-09 13:50
That's such nonsense. Please tell me about that great coalition. There were even times when the Ottoman Empire was allied with France and Sweden (mainly because of a common enemy).
2017-01-09 17:38
Yeah Russia xD
2017-01-11 23:50
#4
Germany Nova2 
ottoman empire gotta talk to the austrians lel
2017-01-09 13:46
This
2017-01-11 04:29
ottoman empire lmfao
2017-01-09 13:50
we fucked all europe and africa man and u r sayin lmfao gtfo BULLshit
2017-01-09 14:06
Look at the present. Erdogan is raping turkey.
2017-01-09 14:56
maybe man, but we re talking bout past
2017-01-09 15:05
Still what did ottoman empire conquer? Balkan lul
2017-01-09 15:06
only balkans?
2017-01-09 15:06
a dead roman empire and a rapedd muslim world from the mongols
2017-01-09 15:24
what u talkin bout fucking spagetti ? ur country got his national unity in 1800s stfu
2017-01-09 15:28
dont know why so butt hurt, i mean with this the countries you conqured were already destroyed recently by another empire
2017-01-09 15:36
'all europe' nt
2017-01-09 15:32
Never got past vienna though
2017-01-10 23:25
wtf is this
2017-01-11 15:26
Ottoman ahah Hes mohamed though ahah
2017-01-09 13:53
Oh. Right. I should post Portuguese empire #5. Better yet, Brazilian Empire #5. Since they were better than you. And still is more relevant.
2017-01-09 13:55
Stfu, Portuguese Empire was great. I'm not saying top5 because there are many opinions and I respect them all I just laugh because I'm so sure you're fake flagging shah
2017-01-09 14:03
Enlighten me. Where are I from.
2017-01-09 14:07
Portuguese was getting slaves, thats their empire.
2017-01-09 14:48
Actually, the Portuguese were the first ever global empire and the leaders of the "Discovery Age" (that period where the whole world was charted out by Western Europe). They were one of the most influential civilizations in history, far more than the Romans, for instance. They were also one of the biggest and wealthiest of all time, and they lasted the longest out of all the recent Western European Empires, even outlasting the British. Underrated because Poortugal tho, lmao
2017-01-09 15:03
kid... pls.... learn
2017-01-09 15:01
ahah thats the reason why there are 290-300 million people talking portuguese as native language? thats why there are also 100-150 million people learning the language as 2nd ? (4th, 5th top language) we were not only the one of the biggest and wealthiest of all time but also the longest and we were also one of the most influential civilizations in history
2017-01-09 21:16
Speaking your language makes portugal the best empire? they occupied colonies in africa and south america which pretty much at the time being was slaves. They didnt get any land from europe in their whole empire.
2017-01-10 15:51
thats not true portuguese empire was actually great xD people underrated their empire cuz poortugal but they were rly big at some point
2017-01-11 02:17
thats not true dude lol they are underrated because they're poortugal but they conquer so many lands and now portuguese its 4th most spoke language in world
2017-01-09 21:22
They only gained land in slaves countriese though. who carese about language?
2017-01-10 15:52
I thought Sweden provided good education, and smart people, stop embarrassing yourself. If you don't know history, just don't comment.
2017-01-11 02:23
what country did they gain land from? Tell me.
2017-01-11 14:27
did you learn history in sweden ? LOL
2017-01-11 23:10
what country did they gain land from? Tell me.
2017-01-12 15:34
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_Empire#.. how can people underrate Portugal, im serious, i work in history here in hungary and we take like 1 year studying portuguese empire not kidding. They were the only one that reached Japan, India, Greenland, Australia ( dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2637371/Did.. there are many historians still studying this theory) they won so many wars against Spain with low number of soldiers, i cant give you an example en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Aljubarr.. Lagos for example is the most populated city in Africa and its name is portuguese because it was a colony some time 8.000.00 people but there are also many more cities in portuguese around the world Atlantic Ocean was controlled by Portugal for like 300 years every ship that wasnt british (portuguese allies) could cross Angola, Brazil, Mozambique, Cape Verde, Equatorial Guinea, Macau, Goa and more than these countries You cant just say "They only gained land in slaves" because thats not true, they gave many good things to our world What i wrote is just some points in portuguese history... There are many others achievements. People usually underrate their history and thats is unfair imo
2017-01-13 02:28
British empire Best Empire. Pull roman out and put russian in there
2017-01-09 13:55
Ottoman empire before spanish empire or french empire ? pls
2017-01-09 13:55
The fact they had colonies, doesnt mean they were strong. Spain owned half of the new world. But they would win a war against the Ottomans back in the days. Not even a close fight.
2017-01-09 13:57
SQPR ???
2017-01-09 14:05
Senātus Populus que Rōmānus
2017-01-09 14:27
...or senate
2017-01-09 14:39
I know, I was just saying he wrote SQPR instead of SPQR.
2017-01-09 14:51
Mongol Empire #1 Ottoman Empire #2 British Empire 3 Roman #4
2017-01-09 14:09
stfu Roman Empire is ez #1 and your ottoman empire got rekt everytime by russian empire
2017-01-09 14:13
no
2017-01-09 15:24
check ur history ;)
2017-01-09 15:39
Crimean war?
2017-01-10 16:11
ottoman empire got rekt by russians in 19-20th century doesn't mean that they always rekted us. There have been so many wars between Ottoman Empire and Soviet Union, and some of them were won by Ottoman Empire and some of them were won by Soviet Union.
2017-04-11 15:12
#26
Romania Tise 
No persian empire ?:(
2017-01-09 14:11
Sorry. No egypt and Greece as well.. :(
2017-01-09 14:17
Roman British Mongol China Persian
2017-01-09 14:14
My List: 1. British Empire - Largest Empire in History - Established English as the 'de-facto' global language. - Controlled much of the worlds trade for an extended period of time. - Creating advanced technology that were vital during both World Wars. - Remained stable politically and the monarchy exists to this day. 2. Roman Empire - The first "Western Empire." - Conquered most of Europe. Something only one other empire has ever done. - Many of their methods used for warfare and building are still used today. - Arguably the most influential Empire in history, essentially becoming the cause for European dominance worldwide. 3. Spanish Empire - Controlled large portions of The New World and at one point, were the richest Empire in the world. - Converted much of The New World to Catholicism, expanding Christianity. - Spanish is still widely spoken today throughout South America and the Carribbean. 4. Third German Reich - Conqured mainland Europe alongside Fascist Italy. - Formed a new style of warfare known as; "Blitzkrieg." - Propaganda tactics used by Adolf Hitler were very effective and one man essentially fooled an entire country. - By causing WW2, Germany caused the United States' rise to become the sole superpower after Germany crippled the British Navy & Economy. 5. Qing Dynasty - The last Dynasty in Chinese History, who originated from Manchuria, which was under Japanese administration leading up to WW2. - Ruled China for 300 years, a tough feat considering their rough history. - Essentially controlled the spread of Confucianism and caused it to become the largest religion in China. - Brought peace and prosperity in the early years of their reign. Honourable Mentions: - Mongol Empire (Not included as they were short-lived and unstable. Management of their empire was poor and once Genghis Khan died, it collapsed.) - French Empire (Not included as although they were very influential, they didn't do enough to make the top 5.) - Soviet Union/USSR (They would've made it in instead of the Qing Dynasty, however while they were one of the two top-dogs of the late 20th century, they weren't too stable and their eventual collapse was from the self-destruction of their economy. - Persia (The Golden Empire from the Middle-East, if Persia had successfully conquered Greece, we may have never seen a Roman Empire, should they have invaded the Italian "Boot." If not for their inability to conquer a Greece that fought eachother for sport, they might've made my list.) Thought I'd pitch in. EDIT: Added Persia
2017-01-09 14:22
This list is better, not sure about german reich tho
2017-01-09 14:21
Eh, I wasn't too sure who to put in 4th. Possibly move Qing up and then put the French after the Revolution maybe? Idk.
2017-01-09 14:23
Dude, Spain owned half of the new world. But that doesnt mean they were strong. They wouldnt win a 1x1 war against Ottomans. Not even close. They had gold and influence, but Spain wasnt the biggest nation back in the days. German Reich?!?!?!?!? And empire that only lasted what? 3 years?? Geez...
2017-01-09 14:24
The German Reich were more influential to World History in 3 years than many empires that laid claim to Europe and the World. The Ottomans would've been floored by Spain if it came to an all out war between the two. Besides, we're talking World History where the Spanish and Ottomans never had to go 1 on 1.
2017-01-09 14:38
Thank god they would never go 1 on 1, otherwise half of the world would be speaking kebabian now...
2017-01-09 14:39
So you take that last bit out of the shit i said lol
2017-01-09 14:52
3 Years? Dude open a history book...
2017-01-09 15:53
+1 Gud list
2017-01-09 14:57
"(Not included as they were short-lived and unstable. Management of their empire was poor and once Genghis Khan died, it collapsed.)" Mongol empire collapsed after death of Kublai Khan (5th great khan). Third reich collapsed after death of Hitler (1st and last fuhrer). Mongol empire lasted almost 100 years. Nazi germany lasted barely 10. "Third German Reich conqured mainland Europe alongside Fascist Italy." Mongol empire conquered literally whole asia. "By causing WW2, Germany caused the United States' rise to become the sole superpower after Germany crippled the British Navy & Economy." Lol.
2017-01-09 15:06
Thanks mr mongol. Oops Mr finnish.
2017-01-09 16:07
Y'know the German Reich were more influential to world history in a decade than the Mongols were in nearly 100 years. Lol.
2017-01-10 00:29
Portuguese Empire as honourable mention imo
2017-01-09 21:23
Not enough to be in a top 8
2017-01-11 15:20
well i have been studying colonial empires since 2010 and i have to tell you Portugal was not only the fist discovering the world but also the greatest at its begining but then ofc spain and england started to conquer and portugal with such a small population didnt had any chance
2017-01-11 23:08
Swap out the Third Reich with the first Islamic caliphate. People say Qing Dynasty but the Tang and Han were the true Chinese dynasties that made China number 1 in the world. The last 150 years of the Qing Dynasty is one of the biggest reasons why China is so backward even to this day. I do think the rest of your list is great.
2017-01-11 23:48
Thank you, my commonwealth friend, for including the best empire; the British Empire! Long live the Queen
2017-04-11 15:37
US of AMERICA is already one of the majors Empires (if not the greatestest). I'm not americano but can't deny they power. If world start a WW3 my country should ally with them ASAP. List of countries by military expenditures 1. 596.0 (US of A) 2. 215.0 (China) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_..
2017-01-09 14:21
They're not really an Empire and they're far from the greatest, but they are powerful and that's why they're unmatched in many fields.
2017-01-09 14:24
what define an "empire"?
2017-01-09 14:34
An Empire is Traditionally run by the Monarch and their Military, as most historical empires were ruled with a "Fascist" styled ideal, but if the United States is an Empire because it has a large influence in its surroundings and is a sovereign country with a head of state... then countries like Australia or Brazil are too. Because both have a Head of State and are sovereign. "An extensive group of states or countries ruled over by a single monarch, an oligarchy, or a sovereign state." That's what google says is an Empire so by definition, the United States is an extensive group of states ruled over by a sovereign state (USA). But, Australia is also a group of states ruled over by a sovereign state, so does that make them an empire? Nowadays, it's hard to classify as such because countries like Australia and Brazil by definition are Empires, but they don't have enough international influence to become an "Empire." Regionally though, both countries are Superpowers so... you never know.
2017-01-09 14:50
well explained, i asked because i didn't understand why you said that USA is not an empire but i think it is since the model of ruling today is mostly republic/monarchy, we have to adapt from history, so considering the world today, there's the head (president), the state, the army (not belonging to the head but serving the interests of the state) and the power advantage, though, we have a "modern empire" (although not called that way), so as AUS/BR in terms of their continents.
2017-01-09 17:13
Best in which field? If we're talking about size some known empires that were huge : 1.Mongol 2.Macedonian 3.Roman 4.Ottoman 5.Persian If we are talking about quality and advanced civilization empires like Ottoman and Mongol should not be included.
2017-01-09 14:23
Why wouldnt they be "advanced"?? They rekted every other nation back in the days....
2017-01-09 14:26
Military power and tactics is not everything. I mean science , culture , philosophy , education ...Ottomans and Mongols were military advanced but they were just conquerors and oppressors.
2017-01-09 14:28
Well, Ottomans made several progress into astronomy, music, maps, roads structures and etc... Of course western nations dont hear much about it. But they were relevant as any Great Power would be. As for Mongols I cant say because I really dont have the knowledge. But Im pretty sure you shouldnt underrate a God Tier Empire such as the Mongols..
2017-01-09 16:05
+1
2017-01-09 14:36
1. Holly Roman Empire of German Nations Thanks for saving Europe for over 1000 years. Fuck the Muslim-Mongol-Turk hords from the East. And no stupid enslaving of the 3rd world like these other so called "Empires" did. 2. France Thanks reforming all of Europe, ending the long reign of inbreed monarchs and unfair systems that hindered progress in Europe. Also stopping the first Muslim invasion.
2017-01-09 14:26
Dude Mongols would never have stayed in EU. They left the rest of Asia after like 80 years. Holy Roman Empire is meh in that it wasn't united and that it brought forth little technology or culture. (They also didn't win many wars since they lost to the Mongols in Hungary). France is good but max 8. Can't be too eurocentric
2017-01-11 23:51
Absolutely nothing you just said made any sense. I never said anything about "Mongols staying in Europe". I was referring to all the hordes coming from the east, most of them actually Turk or other central Asian tribes and not mongols. Like the Huns, then the Avars, then the Magyars and their Turk tribe friends (Kabars and Onogurs), then the Pechenegs, then the Kipchak, then the Mongols, then the Tartars, then Ottomans,... we know how some of them completely crushed the Eastern-European "states" (Rus counries, Hungary,..) and Balkan "countries" and hindered progress in these regions, and if it wasn't for the HRE (and in some cases also Poland and Lithuania) all of Europe would have been at risk. In most cases it was the strength of the HRE that allowed none of these hordes to enter Western Europe (except for the Huns 300 AD but they were eventually crushed and driven off), just look what happened to Rus states during the 300 years of Mongol control... People completely fail to understand how important the 1000 years of the HRE were for Europe, especially for Western Europe. It wasn't united? It was a federation, and that was for the good of Europe. So many things we think of today as "typical European" are the result of that system and the cultural influence the HRE had. It brought little culture? Yeah sure, except that pretty much all old European cities are from that time, that many of our traditions have their roots in that age, ... oh please, shut up. "They also didn't win many wars since they lost to the Mongols in Hungary" What the fuck are you even talking? "They" won countless wars, in fact they never lost to any invader or outer threat, the thing that brought the HRE to the brink of its existence were inner conflicts (especially the 30 years war), but it were these inner conflicts that shaped large part of Central and Western Europe to how we know it today and lead to important reforms that allowed Europe to progress. Lost to Mongols in Hungary? The HRE never even fought a direct battle against the Mongols of the Golden Horde. Beside the many battles in Eastern Europe between the Mongols and the Rus states, Lithuania and the Kipchak, and the battles on the Balkan, it only came to two battles in "main Europe": In the first battle it was the Polish Kingdom (supported by Bohemia, Silesia and some crusaders from the Templar order, the Teutonic order and the Johanitian order) and in the second battle it was the Kingdom of Hungary (supported by some Bohemians (basically Czechs), Serbs, Vlachs (basically Romanians), Kipchaks (a Turk folk, previous invaders, had to flee from the Golden horde though many actually already joined the horde) and a few crusader knights from the Templar order and the Teutonic order) who fought and lost against the Mongols. The HRE actually prepared one of the largest army of that age to stop the Mongols but it never came to a battle as the Mongols already turned around and left Europe (except for the Rus states). Both, the HRE and France played extremely important roles in the history of Europe and if it wasn't for the reforms, "stability" and political structure that came with these two Empires Europe wouldn't have been able develop the way it did and take that dominant role in the world. Many of the later "empires" people mention here would have never been possible, it was that time that gave Europe the important advantage over the rest of the world.
2017-01-12 02:12
The advantage which set Europe above all others was trade and the industrial revolution (England). Yes the HRE and France were impressive and I spoke in an edgy way but there is no way that these two empires contributed more or were as impressive as many other empires. What saved Europe for 1,000 years was the Byzantine Empire and the southern city states which kept out Islam from the eastern side.
2017-01-12 02:12
The capabilities to trade world wide and the industrial revolution weren't just presents sent to Europe by some kind of God, they were made possible by the conditions Europe was in at that time. E.g. if it wasn't for the ending of the feudalistic systems or the ideas of the French revolution, which were spread over all of Europe by Napoleon's military campaign and ended the long reign of systems (ancient regime) that hindered progress for a long time already, none of this would have ever become possible. It were these "empires", that were "modern" for their time, that created the necessary conditions for such changes. "What saved Europe for 1,000 years was the Byzantine Empire and the southern city states which kept out Islam from the eastern side." What the actual fuck.... The Byzantine Empire was isolated and overrun by Muslim hordes, and one of the reason for its downfall was that it did exactly NOT progress in the same way Western and central Europe did. Southern city states? Who do you mean? The Balkan that got occupied for many hundred years by the Ottomans? Spain that was also occupied by Islamic invaders for a long time? Sure, most of the Balkan fought brave and also won some impressive battles, but they ultimately failed (one of the reasons being that they did NOT federate like the HRE did) and it was only the HRE and the Polish Kingdom who would set an end to the Ottoman expansion. In the second case it was France who set an end to the Islamic invasion (the Berbers made it all the way through Spain to France). edit: The thing is that people here rated empires according to their sizes, I chose mine according to the role they played for the modern Western world (and thereby also for the whole world).
2017-01-12 02:42
Yes but the men who stopped the Berbers weren't even "french" by nature... They were more Germanic and have little connection with modern day France and the French Empire of the Colonial Days onward. I really doubt that Napoleon spread the wealth of knowledge abd technology when he conquered and even if he did it was a small side effect. By Southern States I meant the Balkans and the Italian City states which were instrumental to the European Renaissance. The renaissance happened because the knowledge of the East came to the city states after the Byzantine Empire started failing. Europe was still far behind in terms of technology before the Renaissance. I'm just saying that France and HRE are great but not comparable to England, China, Ottoman,... etc
2017-01-12 02:41
"es but the men who stopped the Berbers weren't even "french" by nature" They were pretty much what the French are today. Mostly romanized Celtics, mixed with the Germanic tribe of the Franks. The Great Migration Period was already long over at that time. "...and the French Empire of the Colonial Days onward" That's why I never said the "French Empire" but always just spoke of "France". The "thing" that was first a big feudal state in Europe, became the first great republic, a very dominant nation in Europe that enforced the conditions for progress in all of Europe and then a world wide Empire played an enormous role in the history of the "western world". "I really doubt that Napoleon spread the wealth of knowledge abd technology when he conquered" No, but his social and governmental reforms (e.g code civil) allowed for progress and economical prosperity. Modern state structures, separation of powers, modern education systems, secularism, civil rights, ... Again: It's about who or what created the CONDITIONS for such change to happen. Calling the effects of French revolution "small side effects" is just ignorant and plain stupid. Oh please, explain me how the Balkan states were important for the European Renaissance when they actually didn't play any role in it. "the renaissance happened because the knowledge of the East came" I'm not sure why you jumped from Napoleon to the Renaissance now (300 years back)... Anyways, that's right, but only half the truth. There are multiple factors that played a role. One was indeed the re-discovery of knowledge from the classical antiquity (Ancient Greeks, Romans,...) by the Italians and the Spanish (re-discovered mostly because the Byzantine Empire was collapsing and many cultural goods as well as Greek schoolars escaped to Italy, and Italian sailor saving what they could). The other very important factor is the social and political situation in the Holy Roman Empire and Italy (small states - in case of Italy even republics - with urbanized regions where people enjoyed a lot of political freedom, leading to scientific and artistic progress; in Italy the wealth that came with the expansive trading added greatly to this progress as it allowed for greater scientific and artistic projects and for more and better education). A third, though smaller factor was actually the black death... Italy would have btw. been my #3 (together with England, but for totally different reasons). Especially for its role in the renaissance and the trading (trading empire).
2017-01-12 03:45
ottoman empire LUL.
2017-01-09 14:26
All the Ottoman Empire managed to conquer in Europe are the small and weak Balkan states. A couple of well trained German Landsknechte and latter also some additional Polish Hussars were enough to stop that "Empire". Most of Europe didn't even take the threat of the Ottoman Empire seriously and just kept fighting their own war against each other.
2017-01-09 14:32
They did manage to conquer Eastern Roman empire (at its decline but still was a major power for 500years).
2017-01-09 14:33
It literally took them forever to conquer the capital of an already dead Empire that lost any support from the rest of Europe and was already completely isolated. Constantinople withstood so many attacks, often completely outnumbered...
2017-01-09 14:37
I know , many dynasties of Byzantium / Eastern Roman Emp were of greek origin so... It's kinda part of our history.
2017-01-09 14:41
The Orthodox Christian world betrayed Constantinople. Such a shame.
2017-01-09 14:55
The Byzantine Empire was weak and dead before they even conquered it, it was just a dying lamb waiting for it's final hour, they were cut from the world.
2017-01-11 04:56
Because half of the Europe had to unite to hold them back.
2017-01-09 14:38
What the fuck are you talking? The sad part is that they did NOT unite. Not only did the states that were enemies/rivals of the Austrian Habsburg Empire not help, even most of their "allies" refused to send troops (in the hope that the Habsburg Empire gets weakened and they then have the chance to overcome their influence in Europe). During the first attack it was literally only some Austrian troops plus some German Landsknechte (professional mercenaries) from Southern German states. At the second attack it was the Austrian Habsburg Empire again, they failed to get support from pretty much all the states of the Holly Roman Empire, even when the Pope asked for it, the rivalry was too big and the hate against each after the 30-years-war (in which 2/3 of the population died) still very present. Not to mention the ongoing war with France that made it impossible for many states to help out against the Ottoman threat. From all the German states it was basically only the catholic state of Bavaria that helped the Austrians out. But at least the Pope managed to convince the catholic Polish king to help out. But ez win, ez life. Seems that was enough.
2017-01-09 14:54
Just take a look at the amount of wars they had to fight in Europe: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_wars_in_Eu.. It might not be a formal coallition made by the europeans, but obviously they knew they had to fight together to hold Ottomenace back...
2017-01-09 15:56
lul they only won against weak nations like serbia etc.
2017-01-09 16:18
Yeah, some smaller weak Balkan countries, that failed to form a proper alliance, and a former Empire that was already in the process of falling apart for the past 400 years.
2017-01-09 16:52
You forgot the islamic caliphate, which the ottomans were kinda apart of.
2017-01-09 14:35
OTTOMAN EMPIRE< SOME ARMENIAN KID TOP LUL
2017-01-09 14:36
nt guys
2017-01-09 14:39
woo british empire woo
2017-01-09 14:53
Swedish Empire anyone?
2017-01-09 14:54
it was quite big actually, and powerfull during the swedish empire. They won many wars. But at the end of the vasa era we pretty much stopped fighting in wars.
2017-01-11 15:43
Yeah i know wish we where as big as back then
2017-01-11 22:51
yeah back then we were known for being one of the best millitary countries in europe, now we are known for immigrants.
2017-01-12 15:37
Yeah pretty much and what I hate the most is that you get called out as a racist for wanting sweden to be how we where during the stormaktstiden. Even bands with no racist or nazist connections sabaton ehm ehm gets called out for being racist by singing a simple song that sounds awesome.
2017-01-13 09:21
Darth Vader Empire
2017-01-09 14:58
Mongol Empire is shit, lasted what?? Not even 100 years, sure the military was great but it sucker at being an Empire. My post: 1- Roman Empire (thats not even debatable) 2- British Empire 3- Greek Empire 4- Ottoman 5- Egipcian
2017-01-09 14:59
Where's Portuguese Empire? Did you all get brainwashed in school?
2017-01-09 15:01
PortuWHO?
2017-01-09 15:11
portugese its the most spoken language in the southern hemisphere they actually had a great empire biggest than ottoman tbh xD en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_em..
2017-01-09 21:26
What? Even the Spanish empire was better than the Portuguese and it doesn't enter my top 5
2017-01-09 15:11
Lol... Read #71 You idiots started globalisation. Do you even know you have the most spoken language in the southern hemisphere ?
2017-01-09 15:14
I know what we did don't try to teach me my history but all the empires that I listed were more important to the humanity history than Portugal, we got kinda "unlucky" when our king died fighting and the Spanish king took our crown (because he was the heir due to family marriages) and from there it was a downfall. The Spanish kicked the Jews out of our country and since then there were no more financial control, then the 1795 earthquake happen destroying our capital and then we had napoleonic invasions followed by a civil war that destroyed our country. We were at the top for 40 years but that's not enough to change the world like the nations I listed changed.
2017-01-09 15:18
Nah, you changed the world a lot more than all of those empires, except for the British. You effectively changed the life of everyone on the planet, their culture and lifestyle. Forever. Conquering a big landmass is nothing compared to that. Imo, ofc.
2017-01-09 15:21
All the Spanish did was kill a bunch of Indians already dying by smallpox, you established colonies all over the world, America, Africa, Asia. First to establish contact with Japan after they shut themselves off from the world, first to establish relationships with India (from Western Europe), first to start dealing with African slavers, spread Christianity all over the place, etc etc etc. But then again I'm biased, I wrote a paper about you in college, so. But I wrote it because I was tracing back the beginnings of globalisation. You had massive impact, imo.
2017-01-09 15:19
persian empire should be second....and mongol empire not even on the list
2017-01-09 15:08
If you include all of the empires in the area then yes but the aechemenid or the golden age dynasty would be around like 6/7
2017-01-11 23:53
Gotta agree i think
2017-01-09 15:09
no no ottoman definitely top 1 u know it
2017-01-09 15:38
+1 Make ottoman great again
2017-01-09 15:40
Ottoman empire is top 5 and Russian Empire is not even in the list, dude pls.
2017-01-09 15:13
+1 turks never won a war vs russia
2017-01-09 15:17
Brazil never lost a war in history. So, Brazil #1 of all time.
2017-01-09 15:47
putin vodka balalaika cyka
2017-04-11 15:28
Ottoman Empire lol? Yeah, very difficult to take over empty land and desert pre-modernistic era. Current Empire of the United States is the most powerful and frightening power the world has ever seen. (The Emperor is a puppet of the globalists and the multicultural manpower represents the "nations"). Kappa
2017-01-09 15:18
hizliresim.com/p02Bp0 yes, it is really small terrority.
2017-04-11 15:31
OttomanEmpire, Russian Empire, Prussia/ German Empire, Roman Empire, Mongolian Empire, Persian Empire
2017-01-09 15:22
No state has ever came close to the firepower and influence of todays America. And given that states are inherently violent and expansionist i'd say that there is no bigger threat to the world nor has it ever been.
2017-01-09 15:36
Somehow I are think the Romans were way more influentional and powerful. USA is indeed impressive, but its arguably they are not an Empire. If they are an Empire, then Brazil and Australia are empires as well. Obviously not as big and powerful as USA(which is influentional around the world)... but they fit in the same category of empire(a powerful and important enterprise or holding of large scope that is controlled by a single person, family, or group of associates).
2017-01-09 15:54
Frankish Empire - the successor of a stable empire after Rome. -Established Christianity for Germanic tribes - Stopped Muslimic expansion - Later became Holy Roman empire / Germany and France Made the Galo Romanic people name themself after a germanic tribe who once conquered them - priceless :)
2017-01-09 15:46
3th Reich we would be conquering galaxies today
2017-01-09 15:50
1. Polish Empire stratfor.com/sites/default/files/main/im.. 2. Polish Empire stratfor.com/sites/default/files/main/im.. 3. Romaan 4. British 5. Spansh
2017-01-09 15:51
And I wonder where are you from......
2017-01-09 15:57
stfu just get fact straight
2017-01-09 15:57
What that sweden beated you're ass several times XD your little shitty commonwealth didn't work out as planned ;)
2017-01-13 09:25
Polish_Lithuanian commonwealth was not empire
2017-01-11 23:04
Mongols empire then Russian Empire. British Empire built on beating defenseless niggers lul
2017-01-09 15:52
lul he said it guys Cx
2017-01-09 15:55
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2017-01-09 15:56
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2017-01-09 15:58
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2017-01-09 15:59
I just pasted wrong link
2017-01-09 15:59
nt polak
2017-01-09 16:00
nt polak
2017-01-09 16:00
nt Muslim polak
2017-01-09 16:00
racism in 2017 LUL
2017-01-09 16:05
gay porn in 2k17 LUL
2017-01-09 16:05
I was don't know this details))
2017-01-09 16:06
I aren't think that
2017-01-09 17:04
In term of pure military power roman empire was the shit, then germany and france, british not the most powerful but smartest
2017-01-09 15:59
holy roman empire
2017-01-09 16:10
"Neither holy, nor Roman, nor an empire." -Voltaire
2017-01-09 16:22
neither intelligent, nor worth the air he breathes squirrel monkey on mohamed gustavson
2017-01-09 16:42
He's not wrong you know. HRE was just a bunch of fragmented states. If you just include Charlemagne (Who was more towards France) then HRE would be around 12. Prussia Germany would be like 11
2017-01-11 23:55
There is no absolute truth in this subject, difrent views make difrent opinions. Ill go for the time they lasted, so heres my list. 1st Persian Empire 2d Roman Empire 3rd The Calpyphate (Yes the Arabs, sorry) 4th Mongol Empire 5th Brithish Empire edit: the fifth place is highly contested by many others
2017-01-09 17:02
+1 definitely subject to opinion 1) British 2) Roman 3) Old Egyptian 4) Mongolian 5) Babylonian
2017-01-11 08:24
British is one absolutely no doubt about it. Ist changed the World alot more than the Roman Empire if u think about it it will never be beaten. Second is Third Reich cause Germany rules
2017-01-09 17:03
Yet they cant form a pro team in Cs:Go. Nice empire you have...
2017-01-10 12:41
1. British 2. Mongol 3. Roman 4. Islamic (Abbasid / Umayyad) 5. Qing
2017-01-10 00:35
-Ottomans +Austria-Hungary (bashed Ottomans a few times) -Qing +German Kaiserreich (Strongest Military in 19th century)w
2017-01-10 15:59
Portuguese British Roman Islamic Ottoman
2017-01-10 16:15
"5 - Ottoman Empire Yes.. They changed Europe back in the Renaissance. Everyone feared them. And they conquered anything they want." Well they failed to conquer vienna twice.
2017-01-10 23:27
You srsly forgotted The Swedish Empire from DOOM and HELL?
2017-01-11 02:22
AMERICA BEST EMPIRES ARE FOR PEASANTS FREEDOM VOTE TRUMP 2020!!!
2017-01-11 02:29
a list without the portuguese empire, lul 0/10
2017-01-11 02:33
I don't like empires. If I can't rule then I really hate to be citizens in empire.
2017-01-11 02:44
Hellenistic Empire ?
2017-01-11 02:52
Yeah.. I thought of them, but I think other empires were more relevant... There is no Egypt on my list as well..
2017-01-11 11:57
1. Islamic State of Iraq and Syria
2017-01-11 04:48
5- British Empire 4- Ottoman Empire 3- Qing Dynasty/China 2- Mongol Empire 1- Roman Empire
2017-01-11 04:50
Russian empire u AZK why? Still exists
2017-01-11 04:54
The Iberian Union empire
2017-01-11 05:14
Pfff.. HAHAHAHAHA
2017-01-11 11:55
Y'all niggas just want to include your country in this list isn't it?? British empire who???? conquered deserted island Australia?? and don't compare those small tribes like Romans Qing or whatsoever with Mongolian empire
2017-01-11 07:51
nt
2017-01-11 15:48
What about Fallen?
2017-01-11 08:16
stopped reading at ottoman hahahah
2017-01-11 13:36
SPQR*
2017-01-11 14:20
Russia, Egypt, Greece
2017-01-11 22:58
Where are "the mayas" ?
2017-01-11 22:59
prolly 16 alongside the Aztec at 15
2017-01-12 00:12
Alright in terms of battles won, size, and culture/tech: 1. Roman Empire (way ahead of their time and fielded an amazing army that protected a very advanced empire) 2. British Empire (Yes they conquered the third world but that isn't easy and the rest of Europe were too powerless to do it anyways. They spread English and Christianity along with infrastructure. England led the industrial revolution and fielded the worlds greatest navy) 3. Han/Tang Dynasties of China (conquered massive territories and influenced the culture of what is now Korea, Japan, Vietnam. Greatest inventors of the ancient era. Had 50% of the worlds population with great cities and incredible wealth.) 4. Persian Empire (Well ahead of their time. They introduced organized governing systems and had a powerful army. They were cultural greats and influenced much of Alexander's Macedonian Empire.) 5. Islamic Caliphate (Spreading like a storm, they conquered much of the near East and subsaharan Africa. They introduced Islam but were also advanced in the culture and arts (chess and artwork). 6. Mongol Empire (They were the best at fighting and near the worst at ruling) 7. Ottoman Empire (Truly a huge empire of later history which was advanced and strong. They are more powerful and cultured than Mongols but the Mongols are higher because they were just too damn good at war.) 8. Spanish Empire (Conquered the New World and defeated many powers of the old. They took massive amounts of gold and silver and created the culture of modern day South America) 9./10. Portuguese/French Empire (The former had a great overseas trade empire and great inventions in naval technology while the latter was the giant of Europe and greatly influenced EU culture combined with the conquests of Napoleon.) Honorable Mentions: Russia USA (I would have put higher put didnt want to be nationalist)
2017-01-12 00:12
it's funny reading what ignorant low IQ shit kids like you all post on HLTV when you try to talk about serious topics. France is Top 1 by far. i.imgur.com/Aba8Emt.jpg British / Roman Empire are 2nd. It's not just recent history that counts, it's throughout last 2000 years
2017-01-12 02:10
What about USA empire? it's quite big at the moment
2017-01-13 09:37
Wtf, how is the Ottoman Empire great? They never beat another great power in all of their miserable history.
2017-04-11 15:31
Byzantine ?
2017-04-11 15:40
The Byzantine Empire wasn't a great power since 1200, nt.
2017-04-11 16:36
So, which great power was defeated? Hungary - not even close to a great power, and no other participant in these commited even close to their full force. The Ottomans got crushed everytime they challenged a European great power, be it Austria, Spain, or Russia. European military prowess will has never been matched by the turks. They may have won some battles, but they were almost always outnumbering their opponents by far, and even then they often lost - you should stop being nationalist and start thinking rationally.
2017-04-11 16:42
Ottoman empire sucks lost so much wars versus Russia.
2017-04-11 16:49
Lel Ottomans tookover what was left from former Empires . Thats it . What did They conquer Balkan ? Whole Europe had to allie ?. More like Vienna + Poland. They were never realy relevant outside of the areas they controlled. How can a regional power be in the top 5 empires. And wheres the perisan empire ? Portuguese and spanish colonial Empire ? Also British empire > Mongolain empire.
2017-04-11 17:02
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