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is scream making it into the top10?
Twistzz | 
Korea FreezyNadeZ 
thoughts??
2017-01-11 20:10
top 7-9
2017-01-11 20:12
nope
2017-01-11 20:12
no
2017-01-11 20:13
#4
NEO | 
Poland Xachariah 
I'm pretty sure he is. He has almost the same stats as shox so he should be there.
2017-01-11 20:14
#20
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Canada Keiosz 
Almost same stats? Shox has been super impactful etc. Has been better than ScreaM. But isn't ScreaM's ratings much better than Shox, on like tournaments or some shit? He is like one of the highest rated 2016.
2017-01-11 20:40
#24
NEO | 
Poland Xachariah 
Shox has 1.12 stats on LANs. Scream has 1.10 or 1.11 Shox has 1.11 stats on Big Events. Scream has 1.12 I guess that's close :D I woudn't say that Scream was much worse than Shox. They will be within 2 places range IMO (for example Scream 6 or 7 and Shox 5 ;) )
2017-01-11 20:50
#25
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Canada Keiosz 
Haha yeah kinda close :D But I thought about ScreaM having like 0.01 more than Shox on big events so ty :D Yeah I think that aswell, but more like ScreaM,8-9 and Shox,6-7 :D
2017-01-11 20:52
#27
NEO | 
Poland Xachariah 
We will see :D #9 is olof for me. He had SUPERB stats at the beginning of the year but much worse later (he also didn't play much). I think f0rest and Scream can be higher due to very good stats (also in big games) and they also have MVP awards (f0rest 3, Scream 1)
2017-01-11 20:58
#29
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Canada Keiosz 
I think Olof should be 9th for me aswell. Scream 8th place and f0rest maybe 6th or 7th. Cold #1. Then we have s1mple, FalleN and device on 2-4. Snax, f0rest and Shox, 5-7. But we have k0nfig aswell. So maybe ScreaM won't be on top20 at all D: Cause k0nfig must be on top20 right? When I think about it. Or maybe Olof won't make it.
2017-01-11 21:01
#46
NEO | 
Poland Xachariah 
k0nfig was worse this year than Magisk in Dignitas and before Magisk joined he wasn't that great. Magisk is 14th, so I think no k0nfig.
2017-01-11 21:12
#52
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Canada Keiosz 
K0nfig has been way better than Magisk. Magisk was like good for 2 months. K0nfig has been consistent and has had high ratings through out the year. He is a big reason to the teams success this year no doubt. He is definitely top10. If not I think it is unfair cause he has been better than Magisk. I hope you agree.
2017-01-11 21:29
#55
NEO | 
Poland Xachariah 
Look at Magisk article. In all events in which they played together it says (in table) that Magisk was 1st in Dignitas. How could k0nfig be above him then? Don't get me wrong. I value k0nfig high as a player, but i cannot see a world in which he is higher (Especially 5 places higher). Obviously he can't be lower now :D
2017-01-11 21:34
lol no shox started to be shit at the end of 2016 imo ScreaM had the biggest impact and won them many key rounds
2017-01-11 21:45
#5
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Portugal dracø 
yes
2017-01-11 20:15
If magiskboy can make it into the top 20 I think scream can
2017-01-11 20:16
yes in 7-9 only because of his rating overall this year but he will be below shox
2017-01-11 20:16
#60
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Croatia WhoIsRolezk1 
shox is top 5
2017-01-11 21:44
yes that's why I said scream will be below shox, and will be in 7-9
2017-01-12 02:22
#10
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Slovakia B0R0 
f0rest , Coldzera , fallen , snax , shox , Olofmaister , Dev1ce , S1mple and i think Rain should be there aswell and next one ...idk there could be anyone like ScreaM , Apex or Krimz maybe
2017-01-11 20:21
#11
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Germany [99DMG] aasli 
where do you have s1imple? and no, rain is not going to be there. nvm saw you edited just now lol
2017-01-11 20:22
#12
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Slovakia B0R0 
i edited it in last seconds XD yes s1mple must be there aswell ... and rain is so skilled player ...but not every single guy could see that shit :D
2017-01-11 20:23
#32
NEO | 
Poland Xachariah 
Rain won't be there. He didn't win "big tournament" and we already have 2 from 20 that didn't - KennyS and Niko. He can't be there.
2017-01-11 21:03
#36
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Germany [99DMG] aasli 
idc about the "big tournament" but i dont think rain will be there, i like him as a player. but i dont think this is his year
2017-01-11 21:06
#43
NEO | 
Poland Xachariah 
That was given in Introduction Article (18 out of 20 won Big Tournament). Those places are taken by KennyS and Niko. So even if he could be he won't be.
2017-01-11 21:10
#56
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Slovakia B0R0 
yes its true , but it would be so nice to see him there :(
2017-01-11 21:36
olof not making top 10
2017-01-11 20:45
#13
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Austria gex0r 
only thing im sure about is coldzera #1 my guess for the rest would be olofmeister, shox, forest, neo, snax, fallen, k0nfig, s1mple, device
2017-01-11 20:24
#15
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Canada monk1ee 
Konfig is arguable imo I would put someone like Dennis there instead but everyone else you can make a strong case for
2017-01-11 20:32
Dennis was 20th. Regardless, neo and k0nfig won't make this list. The remaining players are: device, cold, s1mple, ScreaM, FalleN, shox, olof, Snax and f0rest. You don't have to believe me, but just watch and see. Also, ScreaM was G2's best player and the 5th best player overall at big events this year. I'm not even going to mention his valuable MVP. He'll 100% be in there.
2017-01-11 20:39
#23
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Canada monk1ee 
I actually didn't even remember that Dennis was 20th, I legitimately forgot LOL. I agree that Konfig and Neo aren't going to be there and I agree with most of your list but I have to disagree with the point that Scream will be in the top 10. How many events have they gone far in though where Scream is carrying them to the title? I think it's unarguable that Shox was their best player over a long stretch of the year and no doubt Scream was a great secondary carry that could get a lot of frags when needed but still I don't think he's going to make it farther than someone like Flusha has in this list because not only was Flusha really consistent over a long stretch of the year but also he was IGLing with many tournament victories whereas Scream isn't even close.
2017-01-11 20:52
#30
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France raaVz 
nt shox fanboy
2017-01-11 21:02
#34
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Canada monk1ee 
Don't like French teams to begin with nor do I like French players so nt Scream fanboy.
2017-01-11 21:05
#35
NEO | 
Poland Xachariah 
Actually Scream has better Big Events rating than Shox ;) And if you look at his stats page apert from 4 first tournaments he was good in every event :D
2017-01-11 21:05
#38
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Canada monk1ee 
LOL apart from his first 4.
2017-01-11 21:06
#40
NEO | 
Poland Xachariah 
What's so LOL about it? Compare shox and Scream LAN stats page and you will se how close they were in 2016
2017-01-11 21:08
3 first* Which is, by a large margin, better than shox, who had 5 poor events.
2017-01-11 21:09
#57
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Austria gex0r 
but .... but ... NO NEO NO PARTYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY :*/
2017-01-11 21:39
he wont, but he should
2017-01-11 20:25
#16
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Canada monk1ee 
I don't think he should tbh
2017-01-11 20:34
#17
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France Fatalis49 
Coldzera, device, fallen, s1mple, snax, shox, f0rest, scream, k0nfig are the last I guess
2017-01-11 20:38
konfig are u crazy dude??
2017-01-11 21:43
8-10
2017-01-11 20:39
#21
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Macedonia kamco 
9th
2017-01-11 20:40
#28
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
Don't think so. G2 was good, but they only won 1 event throughout all of 2016 and that was because of Shox. I think ScreaM had a good year, but I don't think he's in the Top 20 of last year.
2017-01-11 21:00
#31
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France raaVz 
G2 was good, but they only won 1 event throughout all of 2016 and that was because of ScreaM. I******* hltv.org/news/18163-video-scream-mvp-of-..
2017-01-11 21:03
#33
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France MarioReL 
he will not be there for sure. shox will be 9 or device
2017-01-11 21:03
#37
NEO | 
Poland Xachariah 
Device much higher. At leat TOP5 if not TOP2/3 You will see :D
2017-01-11 21:06
lol device sucks
2017-01-11 21:12
#51
NEO | 
Poland Xachariah 
Sure mate, sure. Just wait and see :D
2017-01-11 21:21
top 30
2017-01-11 21:07
if ScreaM won't make it, shox won't either. so pretty much 100% guaranteed
2017-01-11 21:08
#45
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Canada monk1ee 
If you compare Scream to Shox, Forest, Cold, Fallen, Snax, Device, S1mple, Olof, and apEX he probably isn't going to get top 10 over these players tbh
2017-01-11 21:12
apEX isn't even top 30
2017-01-11 21:13
#48
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Canada monk1ee 
I mean he did carry envy for a long portion of the year while they were really shit and if not apEX then Neo because VP won a lot of events and he was exceptional during Eleague.
2017-01-11 21:15
when? I can only remember 3 or 4 games where he was rapex mode and one of them was online. I remember nV being trash but im pretty sure apEX never carried them (kennyS) neo isn't top 30 either. he had an MVP at Bucharest (smaller tournament) but was just average throughout the most of the year.
2017-01-11 21:18
#50
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Canada monk1ee 
ApEX was much better than Kenny during the beginning of their time in nV but Kenny picked it up recently and either way Neo was also great so even he could make it over Scream because of his consistency, in a team where they have 2 bots they need a really good consistent player like Neo unlike G2 where they have God SmithzZz????
2017-01-11 21:22
youre delusional if u think apEX will be in this list
2017-01-11 22:33
Yes he will
2017-01-11 21:34
#58
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United Kingdom Areashi 
For sure.
2017-01-11 21:40
He is 8-9 with olofmeister I think
2017-01-11 21:46
aight aight i see
2017-01-11 22:33
#65
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Germany Lennard 
Lol
2017-01-11 22:34
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