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Spain datedoctor 
they always tell us we free to do what we want but then they also want us to wake up and work at 8 o clock is this free ? if u dont work u dont have money u die in 1 month here in albania :8
2017-02-16 19:12
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you free to do every job
2017-02-16 19:13
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Bulgaria BroN
Nop...i wanna be cosmonaut ,but it is impossible
2017-02-16 20:16
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Why?
2017-02-17 09:32
Freedom aint free :(
2017-02-16 19:15
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+11111111111
2017-02-16 19:58
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Sweden cute!
Land of the free is full of freeloaders:)
2017-02-16 19:16
you don't necessarily HAVE to work, it's just that if you don't you have to live with the consequences. If you don't want to contribute to society even if you're capable to, then go and live in a completely rural area in the wild. Just don't make the hardworking taxpayers suffer from you being lazy.
2017-02-16 19:16
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what consequences?
2017-02-16 19:59
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Being homeless.
2017-02-16 20:10
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+1
2017-02-16 20:12
Unless you live in a social democratic country
2017-02-16 20:23
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0/8
2017-02-17 09:52
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not 0/8. I live in a social democratic country (I'm fakeflagging) and here people basically get a free home and free money if you can't find a job.
2017-02-17 13:08
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I live in one to, I am currently studying the national economy. And that is not how it works. At least not in Sweden, Denmark, Norway and iceland
2017-02-17 15:20
ur free to not work aswell, nobody forces you to go and work and survive
2017-02-16 19:16
war is peace freedom is slavery ignorance is strength welcome to the modern world . just deal drugs untill u have enough money and make a world trip and enjoy the rest of ur life . cba taking part in this modern slavery shit .
2017-02-16 19:17
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Lol, exactly how do you feel like you are a modern slave? that's some straight up ignorance if I've ever seen it.
2017-02-16 19:22
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your the one who is ignorant tbh, because you clearly dont understand what he means. His statement is good, whether you agree ot not
2017-02-16 19:25
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Great argument with no substance what so ever. You base your point on feelings. I am going to ask you some simple questions: Did you get forced to work at a certain place by authorities or did you apply for it? Would you get beaten or whipped if you did not work? Can you quite your job after your contract? If the answer is yes to them than you are not a slave. If it is no to any than you are 1 out of 1000 people who are a slave and I sincerely feel bad for you. Our society has become so lazy. Everyone want the benefit of the government but nobody wants to work for it. If you want the benefits you also need to live up to the terms. Im sure you are free to leave our modern society and go live in the forest somewhere without any help from the society, but I would not recommend it. If everyone had your attitude of "Government should pay me but I should not have to work" then our civilisation would completely collapse. Please bring me some arguments with actual concrete points, and I will happily take it into consideration.
2017-02-16 19:42
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Sweden rblg
If you really want to understand their arguments, you have to first understand that world is a very unfair place. Wages don't reflect your real contribution to the society. Employers may treat you within the boundaries of the law but it doesn't mean they treat you right. There are a lot of jobs that are straight out immoral yet still legal. When you understand the points above, you realize that a lot of the freedom in the society is just illusion. There may be a lot of choices but if all of them are the same shit in different packaging, do you really have a choice? And if you really don't have a choice, isn't it essentially slavery? I mean, the slaves don't have to necessarily work, you have to just live up to the consequences as you said.
2017-02-16 19:58
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Treating you bad =/= slavery.
2017-02-16 20:02
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Sweden rblg
Well, if you think about it, treating you so bad that you are forced to either suffer or to work is slavery. The difference is just the level of suffering, obviously the conditions of modern society can be in no way compared to the conditions of the slaves in the past. But you also have to realize that we live in abundance. With the huge technological advances, we really shouldn't have to work hard at all to maintain our current lifestyle. Treating people bad comes with all kinds of negative consequences. For some people it may mean laughing with your friends about your boss being a dick, for others, it can claim their lives. Isn't that bad enough? Just because people are so greedy? Is that right? I work a lot but I don't think I would want to contribute to a society with values like that.
2017-02-16 20:13
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Fine, you wouldn't want to contribute to a society like that. What is the alternative? if you don't work, someone has to work harder in order to provide for you. That does not seem fair to me. There is a big difference between hard labour and slavery. We can't apply slavery as a term just because we don't like our jobs. You are free to quit whenever you want.
2017-02-16 20:16
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Sweden rblg
The alternative is that the people who do not want to work simply do not work. They get basic income / social security which pays for their rent, food etc. so that they can live a humane life. That's how it works right now, at least if you live in one of the Nordic countries... What are the downsides to this? Well, some people who are just lazy might work less because they can still come by just freeriding. Not an ideal situation but compared to something like tax havens or corruption this really doesn't cost the society a whole lot. Your alternative is sending people who don't work to live in the woods and survive without any help from society. Is there any guarantee people would even leave to begin with? Crime rates would go up massively because people have to deal drugs or rob people to get something to eat (there aren't enough jobs for everyone). I think it's also a horrible idea because people who are in control of things don't really have the ordinary citizen's best interests in mind. If you absolutely have to work (if you can't do it alone in the woods), companies would be able to lower their wages massively because there would be suddenly be a lot more people willing to work than available jobs. Of course there is a minimum wage but if you think our politicians are not influenced by money, well, sigh.
2017-02-16 20:36
almost all the slaves of the american south were forced to work for their old masters after their "freedom" due to economic reasons. epic freedom. i dont see the difference, in reality they couldnt move and they got next to nothing in salary. the black community of the south is still poor asf
2017-02-16 20:35
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What happened after lincoln is not comparable to today. You really think that argument is applicable to the society of today?
2017-02-16 20:36
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hm i just showed an example of how wage labour more or less can be the same as slavery. the example highlights the logic of capitalist freedom
2017-02-16 20:38
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You showed an example from after lincoln. 200 years ago. If you can show me some sources of this happening today I will gladly apologize.
2017-02-16 20:39
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"the example highlights the logic of capitalist freedom" other example: everyone who works wage labour
2017-02-16 20:42
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Nice concrete argument of absolutely no substance I'll do the opposite and actually give you some sources: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_wage_in_th.. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_the_U.. Everyone, independent of background, who is an American citizen is entitled to public school and when they apply for job they can at least get minimum wage.' Can you tell me what the alternative is? Im not saying full out capitalism is perfect, frankly I quite like how sweden with quite some socialism. But saying that hard work is slavery is utterly flawed.
2017-02-16 20:47
go to a textile factory of choice in cambodia and will understand, even if the logic is applicable even in sweden
2017-02-16 20:46
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Yes, maybe in cambodia. In sweden, no. Maybe a couple in the whole of sweden. But that's mainly criminal action and is not to blame on capitalism.
2017-02-16 20:48
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ever heard of global capitalism? the textile workers are our slaves dude, kinda litteraly, and they are because of capitalism but in a strict sense the logic is still applicable in sweden. 1. we literally dont need to work this much to have ok lives if we would spread out the wealth, and its ruining the climate 2. we still have to work for rich capitalist because rich capitalist says you are poor if you dont make him rich 3.?????? 4. freedom
2017-02-16 20:55
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1. How exactly would we develop if there was not a drive to accomplishments? You think the technology that has made us capable to work less would be in existence if not for the economic drive? 2. Literally no. If you are smart enough you can start your own business and work any hours you wish. 3. 4. freedom
2017-02-16 21:00
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1. yes capitalism was good for getting dat technology, now lets use it 2. this is just.... braindead sorry im to tired for this. you can feel like you won if you want 3. ???? 4. lets go revolution 2k17
2017-02-16 21:02
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Im not in for winning. I Agree with you whole-heartedly that some people work under really bad conditions, which is unacceptable. I just don't think a word like slavery should be applied in those situations. It's disrespectful to say the least to those in actual slavery, like forced prostitution.
2017-02-16 21:15
and LOL "You think the technology that has made us capable to work less" we work more now than 50 years ago. gtfo. lets use the technology to work less, agreed
2017-02-16 21:12
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Maybe more, but not harder. You really want to compare todays work with coal miners?
2017-02-16 21:16
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but why do we have to have fucking pr consults instead, when we got the tech that enabled us to stop working the mines (in the same way)
2017-02-16 21:18
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I don't understand your point here. You want to make pr consults unemployed? You think they are getting paid to do work that a machine could handle? If that was the case then obviously there would be no pr consults since employers would just use the machine for cheaper work power. Technology may have gotten far, but not that far.
2017-02-16 21:20
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hm i was more into erasing the "job" pr consult ;)
2017-02-16 21:21
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Up until this point you seemed to at least have a good grip on the world, even though we differ in opinion, but thinking that a job should be erased is just plain stupidity. If there was no use for it, than why do you think people pay those people? Charity? Get a grip.
2017-02-16 21:25
im to tired for this now, interesting talk. i really recommend looking up Roland Paulsen tho, a really interesting scholar. you should read his books, but here is a snippet youtube.com/watch?v=CojNStHTi44 ^ the whole show is available in svt-play
2017-02-16 21:24
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Interesting idea I admit, but he still miss the vital aspect of how would we change it? Clearly the video is biased, as I supposed you understand swell. He say that we could start working less hours, or even get rid of some jobs, but it would not work. You are free to not work in any of the business this man puts forward. Noone can ever force you to work if you don't want to. That's the key difference between slaves and workers. We can't start making our own definitions of already defined words. Slavery is, if you look in a dictionary: 1. The condition in which one person is owned as property by another and is under the owner's control, especially in involuntary servitude. Noone owns you. Don't blame the society if you don't succeed. The opportunities are there, you just have to grab them and stop playing the victim role.
2017-02-16 21:39
read my other comment. sorry about that last part
2017-02-16 20:04
if u want to succeed you need to stop caring about ur family, social life, friends what ever I know it ive been there worked in event managment what i thought is my dreamjob for 6 years 60-70H a week and then 50% they take as taxes from ur salary. if u think ur free go compare old slavery to some jobs nowadays . now i do other stuff and gain the same i earned in 1 month in 2 weeks when its ready to sell . but ye its illegal cuz they cant take taxes of it
2017-02-16 19:33
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You know the difference right? In old slavery you were FORCED to work. You are not forced to work hard. If a slave worked 60-70h a week he still risked getting beaten. If you work good on the other hand you might get a promotion or a raise. You see the difference there? It's incredibly ignorant and frankly, quite disrespectful to those who suffered slavery 100 years ago, to say you are a "Modern day slave". Sure the taxes are high, i agree with that, but it still doesn't make you a slave. You can quit your job as soon as your contract ends, and you signed that contract yourselves. You were never forced to work that job if you didn't want to.
2017-02-16 19:36
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well u kinda are , cuz if u dont work u pretty much die unless in some countries where they pay 1.2k social support .
2017-02-16 19:43
a lot of people dont understand that they infact aint forced, but they have been made believe that if they dont do it everything will go wrong and their life will just go to hell or whatever, im sure you know what i mean(thats slavery)
2017-02-16 19:49
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So because people are made to believe they should contribute to society, they are slaves?
2017-02-16 20:03
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working 9-5 is not the only way to contribute to society
2017-02-16 20:04
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obviously not, and there are other ways to make a living than working 9-5 you know.
2017-02-16 20:05
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indeed, but a lot of people are enslaved to belive that thats the only way to survive
2017-02-16 20:06
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Then that is a matter of being very close minded as an individual. If people actually were made to believe that, there are plenty of information to contradict that thought. All I am saying is using the word slavery loose is just like how modern leftists utilize the word "Racism" or "Sexism" so fluidly. It loses all value and meaning. Working a hard job for a low pay is not anywhere near comparable to how slaves used to have it, or how actual modern day slaves, like forced prostitutes, have it.
2017-02-16 20:09
YOU ARE A SLAVE ! one day even people like u will realise it . probably u have 2 parents that earn well and not raised by only a father that passed away when u were young . spoiled brats will never understand it . you probably dont even have to buy food urself cuz ur mom/dad is cooking every day . i saw it with my dad who worked his ass off so just me and my brother could have food and a place to sleep and i can see it clearly myself now.
2017-02-16 19:52
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I sincerely feel sorry for you about your parents, and I mean that, but it still does not make you a slave. You have to understand the difference between slavery and hard labour. What you and your family have been through is incredibly rough and should not happen to anyone, but noone owns your body. Noone can tell you "If you don't come to work today you're getting 10 lashes". You are sadly still not providing any arguments with substance. You dad might have worked his ass off, and he is a great human being for doing that for you, but he was not a slave. Noone had the legal right to abuse him.
2017-02-16 19:59
U have good points dude, and ur kinda right.. But at the same time ur wong. I agree with both of u tbh. What he is saying is that ur not completely free. But what ur doing is comparing what he says to the slaves long time ago. Just bbbecause the slaves long time ago was diffrent doesnt mean the modern day slave has to bbe the same. Im pretty sure theres diffrent type of slaves yeah? U call him ignorant but ur also ignorant. I agree that people are fucking lazy nowdays, including me. A lot of it has to do with the technology and how everything is just instant and faster and easier. More machines less work for humans. Anyway a lot of ppl have the 9-17 job life and thats what i mean with slaves. Ppl are fucking zombies today they jsut drift through life without meaning.. And im talking about people like my mom and her bbf or just any "normal" kinda people.. they're just closed minded people who doesnt look at life as anything big and its just everyday normal problems. They work everyday and come home and watch fucking tv. u can argue with this guy all u want.. ur points are good but u dont understand what the fuck he is trying to say.. all u do is think ur smart cus u can win a fucking discussion.
2017-02-16 19:59
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No, Im not here to try and "prove I'm smart", I don't care about winning a discussion. What I care about is the idea that just because you have responsibilities in society you are somehow a slave. It's incredibly disrespectful who those who actually suffer from modern slavery, like forced prostitution or child labour in china.
2017-02-16 20:02
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its like ur one of those brainwashed naive kids who are smart in thier own way.. but they have no clue about the whole picture. Maybe one day u will open ur eyes a bit. Disrespectful? come on dude.. since when do u care about those people ? what have u ever done in ur life to fucking help those ppl ? and if u actually have then im sorry bbut dude come on. I wish i could help every person in the world and not be disrespectful to anyone but i can barely take care of myself. The world is a brutal place and its always gonna bbbe a brutal place. Suns get born and they fucking die same as people. Animals do horrible things to eachother and humans are even worse. Its fucking cruel and i wwish ppl wouldnt be that cruel but i cant fucking help it.
2017-02-16 20:08
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"since when do u care about those people ?" Atleast I don't compare their horrendous situation to working a hard job. It's like I said in a comment above, when you use a powerful word such as slavery so fluidly, it's exactly like when the left use the words racism or sexism about everything. It loses all it's substance and meaning. Would you honestly say to someone who is forced into sexual labour that "Yeah you are a slave, but so are the people who applied for a 9-5 job!" It's completely unreasonable.
2017-02-16 20:12
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since when did i ever compare them to a hard working job? U ARE THE ONE WHO BROUGHT THEM IN TO THIS DISCUSSION. UR THE ONE WHO DID IT. How can u be this fucking retarded? I used to be a person who would do what i got told to do. I wasnt exactly forced, bbut i didnt know any bbetter i didnt know about the life. SO i did what i was told. A slave does what his told. A slave doesnt exactly have to be physically punished. U can be mind controlled and manipulated. And that my friend is how slaves are today. And ur one of them u fucking moron. IM OUT.
2017-02-16 20:16
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Soooo, because you did what you got a told in a job where you get paid to do what you are supposed to do, you are a slave? Sound. Im using that as a comparison to show what a real modern slave is like. A modern day slave is not someone who freely applies for a job, does what he's supposed to and gets paid what he's promised. From a dictionary: 1. The condition in which one person is owned as property by another and is under the owner's control, especially in involuntary servitude. You are not owned by your boss, you work for him. He can't control you freely 24/7. If he forced you to do something you are not paid to do, you can sue him.
2017-02-16 20:22
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The thing is.. u cant think freely or a bit... how do i say this.. ur not a crazy person like me. Our minds are literally diffrent. U think u have to be a slave like bback in the day and u think everything has rules to it. Meanwhile i think about the fucking universe and it doesnt give a fuck about ur rules. U think a comet gives a shit about our well being? OFC U DONT. Now why am i talking like a fucking idiot? because u dont understand what teh fuck im saying. Ur just trying to be professional, its like u just learned how to do a discussion in school and ur like looking at ur notes n shit and making sure ur doing it all right. u think of the word slave like its written in stone and thats just how it is. Please just dont answer me anymore
2017-02-16 20:30
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please tell me what you are smoking. "Meanwhile i think about the fucking universe doesnt give a fuck about ur rules. U think a comet gives a shit about our well being?" How is that even slightly related to the discussion at hand? Im not trying to act professional, Im just tired of the bullshit notion that hard labour is the same as slavery.
2017-02-16 20:31
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Im acting like a retard cus u dont understand what im trying to say even if i try. Ur too obsessed with following ur dumb rules and bbbeing all "professional" its like ur a fucking politician or some shit i dont know... U dont understand what we're saying cus ur life is diffrent and ur just... id say closed minded bbut i dont know
2017-02-16 20:37
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The only reason Im acting "professional" is because I'm still trying to get some arguments with substance from you. You yet haven't provided a single logical reason to how in any way, shape or form hard labour follows the definition of slavery
2017-02-16 20:41
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sorry bbut ur too obsessed with winning some discussion instead of reading and trying to understand and actually learn something. meanwhile ur trying to find arguments to win. Not to solve and learn anything. Im done
2017-02-16 20:43
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Not trying to win anything, I'm genuinely asking for some evidence or examples of some sort of slavery going on in the western world. If I get some, I am whole-heartedly open to admit i am wrong.
2017-02-16 20:50
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Its like discussing if flusha ever cheated or not. He is not vac banned therefor he never cheated.
2017-02-16 20:51
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Well he never did cheat
2017-02-17 12:39
cringe & triggered :^)
2017-02-17 09:43
its like comparing black and white tv to todays 4k full hd tv :o things evolve wer pretty close to slaves only without the physical punishment
2017-02-16 20:02
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2017-02-17 09:13
Work makes you free like certain austrian said.
2017-02-16 19:19
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Touché
2017-02-16 19:20
2 replies
What is Touché?
2017-02-16 19:21
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touchéscreen
2017-02-17 12:36
Atleast cry is free
2017-02-16 19:20
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Sweden cute!
+10000
2017-02-16 19:21
haha
2017-02-16 19:50
Arbeit macht frei!
2017-02-16 19:22
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kannst du mein wurst essen Kappa
2017-02-16 19:50
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2017-02-16 20:26
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XD kappapride
2017-02-16 21:03
i'm working right now, not so bad, not at all, if u study, u may work in a cozy office were u can watch CSGO while working!
2017-02-16 19:44
Because if you are able to live without working it means someone else is working for you. You are free to choose, not to parasite people or erase away the reality that resources are scarce with wishful thinking.
2017-02-16 19:47
capitalism
2017-02-16 19:49
because capitalism made everything in life about money we live in a materialistic world
2017-02-16 19:49
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bullshit my friend we always lived in a materialistic world. men who didnt went to the hunt and didnt build a house always died/got no wife/dismissed by natural selection. nothing changed. if we go to the hunt at 8 o clock or go in our offices to earn money to send someone else to the hunt...where is the difference
2017-02-16 20:05
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lul you evolutionary psychology-fans are so adorable
2017-02-16 20:06
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evolutionary psychology ? kk bro you hltv low int lifes are so adorable it is neither a matter of evolution nor psychology. it is about the simple fact "Nothing comes from nothing." and there is no freedom which allows you to do nothing
2017-02-16 20:14
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hm actually read something else than you wrote sry lul still a pretty pathetic way of thinking, in the way that you excuse capitalism with literally stone age-arguments.
2017-02-16 20:17
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because its no difference in what you transform your work. if you need to work 10 hours to only get your food etc, you dont need an iPhone and TV.if you need to work 10 minutes for your food, you want more for what you can go for. At no time and no place on earth you ever had to work less than in Europe/NA nowadays. A stadium where ppl lay down after eating and say "well thats enough for today, now i sex my wife and then i go sleep " or these "eating drinking sexing"- happy-animal-life-fantasies never existed and never will exist only pot smokers could live like that. capitalism is no force which cames over the mankind/western society. it is an expression of our development, it doesnt make us materialistic. we are materialistic and we created capitalism to serve these materialistic needs. ps: its not about stone age. there are ppl who have to go to hunt until these days... its about the contrast to materialism, and this is "food+nest"
2017-02-17 09:22
lets say we remove capitalism, we remove the entire monetary system. Who decides how you will contribute to society? Will you be the one managing people in factories? Or the one cleaning toilets? Or the one that works in a clothing store? Or the one that works in a chip manufacturing company coz everyone wants a smartphone? Thats the problem. You have the right idea but its impossible due to our nature. And if we eliminated materialism, we would stop our advance in technology. What would be the motivation to invent new stuff? You get nothing in return (coz we removed the monetary system). It only gives you a good feeling, feeling of achievement. Is that enough of a reward for you to dedicate your entire life to invent stuff?
2017-02-17 10:07
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hm you are saying it like i would want to keep the consumer society which i dont
2017-02-17 12:33
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im just saying you are right and have the right idea. but impossible to achieve
2017-02-17 13:25
that's not materialism
2017-02-16 20:55
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SURE IT IS! THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT IF YOU HAVE TO WORK 24/7 TO SURVIVE, YOU HAVE NO TIME TO CARE ABOUT MATERIALISTIC NEEDS. BUT THAT NEITHER MAKES YOU FREE NOR NOT MATERIALISTIC. ALL THE SHIT YOU SEE TODAY DOESNT MAKE US MATERIALISTIC, IT IS DONE BECAUSE WE ARE AND EVER WERE MATERIALISTIC!
2017-02-17 09:31
capitalism. we got some good technology, one might think we could use it to work less. instead we work more than before wtf is this "progress"
2017-02-16 20:05
u can live in woods like me, in a small cabin living off potatoes and milk, what i hunt and pick of bushes
2017-02-16 20:05
taxes = slavery ! nikola telsa found a way for free energy what they doing ? they hide it from us and lets us pay for energy while they are not paying for it :P
2017-02-16 20:12
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nt ayn rand you are dead
2017-02-16 20:14
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laugh about it but they lie to us about alot of things
2017-02-16 20:15
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nt snowden you had me at american military secrets
2017-02-16 20:21
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Brazil andredr
After capitalism: Enough time to complain, in the internet, about the 8 hours of work. Before capitalism: Worry about hunting so you do not get hungry. Go to sleep before 6pm because you have no electricity.
2017-02-16 20:12
There's never been a time in human history where work wasn't necessary to live properly. Even at the time where we were hunter-gatherer societies, people who wouldn't contribute wouldn't live decently either. People back then were more free in the sense that they had no boss or customers to please or things like that, but they had other kinds of constraints such as the members of their tribe depending on their skills, the will of the leader, the changes of the environment which were affecting their lives much harder than ours, etc, etc... They were not free either, and most of those complaining about lack of freedom in our era probably wouldn't last a few days in their era, breaking down either mentally or physically. Freedom is never absolute and first depends on what your body needs, whether it's food, health, entertainment, happiness, etc... Even if you could get rid of all the constraints of our modern world and went into the wild to live on your own, you would still be dependent on your own work to live decently, you would not be free at all. Freedom is an illusion, there are only various degrees of constraints to choose from, and we've never been more able to choose our own constraints in our time than ever before. In that sense, we've reached more "freedom" than ever before.
2017-02-16 20:14
when u enjoy ur work its fine if u dont enjoy its slavery trust me u only do it to get the dollars
2017-02-16 20:19
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Bulgaria AboveYall
you are free to chose between death and work ? ez
2017-02-16 20:24
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yes total freedom is awesome!!!!!!
2017-02-16 20:25
Coz slavery is forbidden since ppl complained too much. Instead of a stick we now use reward. So now, instead of giving shelter, food and clothes to them we give them money to buy it. They feel free, they complain much less. But at the end of the day it's the same. TL:dr u r working coz u are a slave.
2017-02-16 20:29
Move to finland and albinos like u get every money in the country
2017-02-16 20:41
#94
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CIS sergioff
"freedom" is another term for today's economic slavery.
2017-02-16 21:13
I went to Murica to become a millionair, I still wash some dishes
2017-02-16 21:14
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2017-02-16 21:14
I work because I have nothing better to do anyway. The only thing that would be better than working would be to live on an island with friends, beefy computers and internet access. But how realistic is that?
2017-02-16 21:19
Banana
2017-02-16 21:26
You can either get a job and accept the fact that you always HAVE to do what your boss says or you become your own boss.
2017-02-17 09:33
Im not specialist, scientist or whatever.. But i will try to explain it: In order to make work efficient and prosperous there are processes needed to set. Each process need some rules to follow for everyone otherwise the goal would not be reachable. Keeping the time of attendance is one of many rules to reach the goal. -basics of work, basics of life...
2017-02-17 10:06
to pay for your benefits
2017-02-17 12:38
This is life: Your childhood is taken away by school, you study to get a job later so you can work for the government and they get money from our work and wipe their asses with our money. You live to become a servant.
2017-02-17 13:10
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1.22
Envy
4.50
fnatic
1.25
Dignitas
4.10
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