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Czech Republic exi77 
What is the point of it? I dont get it? Why the hell would i believe in something that doesnt exist? I can maybe after 2g of weed. I am proud of being atheist Czech Republic is apparently most clever country because of atheism :-) No hate, just explain it to me It is my opinion, respect it and i will respect yours :)
2017-02-17 17:22
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United States Aceus 
LMAO
2017-02-17 17:25
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Czech Republic exi77 
Religious apparently "LMAO"
2017-02-17 17:25
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United States Aceus 
Atheism is a religion, you believe in not believing a god. "LMAO"
2017-02-17 17:28
Atheism is a religion, as bald is a color of hair.
2017-02-17 17:41
Atheism is a lack of belief in any form of supernatural superior force. That doesn't mean that atheists have no beliefs whatsoever, any human being has beliefs, but that does mean that they don't have any belief in god.
2017-02-17 17:43
i think they have belief in science and they are sure science will find out 100% proof of god's not exist
2017-02-17 17:51
Those people are unfortunately incorrect and misunderstand what science is and what it can do. Science is just our current most effective way to understand our world and explain things, nothing more, nothing less. It can be wrong simply because it's made by humans and humans can be wrong. It can change simply because knowledge can change at any moment. Science (or anything else) will not find proof of the non-existence of God. You can't prove something doesn't exist. You can only prove the existence of something, and even something proved many times over and over again can be doubted in some way or in some context, or even re-interpreted as something else. Science will not prove the existence of God either (at least not the man-made gods that most humans believe in). Science is not the way of certitude, it's the way of uncertainty, and that's exactly why it's so effective.
2017-02-17 18:16
I think you forgot that you are in Hltv with these non-shitposts.
2017-02-17 18:21
I didn't ^^.
2017-02-17 18:23
actually i agree with you but evolution theory, earth is 4.5 billion years and it cannot be doubted atm, when bible saying other things which is cannot be proved so this is a reason of atheism, but as you said human can be wrong, even if he not how stupid it's can sound but i actually think god is exists
2017-02-17 18:29
It can be doubted, anything can be doubted in science. But for something to be doubted in science you need to provide something that explains things better than what you're trying to disprove. Scientists do not currently doubt evolution (for example) because it has been observed many times directly, explains how the fossils are what they are, explain current animal behaviour, etc, etc... Evolution could very well be put to the trash one day, but it would require another model to explain even better how things happened and are happening, which is unlikely, but could still happen. Same deal for the age of the Earth, it has changed a lot ever since it was first analyzed by scientists, we have a lot of evidence for this current number, but something some day might completely change what we know (but again, it's very unlikely).
2017-02-17 18:58
why believe in something not existing? better to be agnostic m8
2017-02-17 17:26
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Sweden cleve 
agnostic is like 50-50 right?
2017-02-17 17:27
i guess so, not sure what it exactly means these days i guess you could say it means "doubting" whether something does or does not exists, because nobody can be sure that seems cool to me
2017-02-17 17:27
i think i have same point of view
2017-02-17 17:31
For me being an agnostic person is like "fuck, i don't care. I don't have an opinion" Kinda stupid for such important thing
2017-02-17 17:32
obviously you have some kind of preconception about what that means, so no point in talking about that more
2017-02-17 17:36
There's a difference between deciding to not conclude anything and not caring about the matter. You can have very intense discussions about god with agnostic people, they can care about it just as much. People who don't care about something usually don't even bother mentioning their position on it. Furthermore, you can have people who are atheists regarding any man-made gods but are agnostics regarding other possible forms of supernatural and superior forces. It really depends on what you're talking about.
2017-02-17 17:49
Got you're point. Changed my mind a little bit
2017-02-17 17:56
I'm agnostic in a sense that I respect the fact its more probable that our universe is a simulation than it is probable that this is based reality.
2017-02-17 17:30
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Czech Republic exi77 
yeah and Earth is also flat, isnt it?
2017-02-17 17:27
and earth exists 10k years lul
2017-02-17 17:29
wtf? The earth exists 2017 yrs, kinda clear lul
2017-02-17 17:47
LUL
2017-02-17 17:48
You don't know it doesn't exist
2017-02-17 17:29
no, it does not.. Do you have any sources?
2017-02-17 17:35
You also have no proofs for that, that it doesn't exist Jesus was a historcial figure. The rest is debatable
2017-02-17 17:40
tell me 1 source besides the bible that talk about jesus.
2017-02-17 17:42
Talmud, Toledot Yeshu, Titus Flavius Josephus, Philo Judaeus
2017-02-17 17:46
its in the Quran too
2017-02-17 18:25
what is your source for the existence of world? how did the world become what it is now? there is no novel without a writer, no building without a constructor, how can u explain a world like this, billions of kinds of animals, people exist, without anyone behind it? let alone the world even a fly can't become exist with random reactions, explain how a human can? there is so much you don't know yet you can easily say "how can I believe something doesn't exist" how the fuck do you know anything exists or not? how do you know afterlife doesn't exist? did u die and comeback? before religion you need to understand that there is a creator, and if u know how to look, evertything you see in the world is a proof that a creator exists.
2017-02-17 19:42
before religion you need to understand that there is a creator that is what i am talking about there is no creator
2017-02-17 20:15
I don't need to proof to say that unicorns don't exist..
2017-02-17 17:48
But 99% of people that ever existed didn't believe in unicorns so I agree you shouldn't. However, not only does your existence and happiness depend on His existence (Pascal's Wager), but 99% of people that have ever lived believed in some kind of ultimate, perfect power. So, when atheists make the argument that they don't have to prove that he does not exist, I do not think it is that simple. The question we should ask ourselves is am I sure that he does not exist? Because if he does and I did not care to look into it, I'm fucked. So from this it seems that arguments about theism and atheism should naturally be much more important to atheists than theists.
2017-02-17 19:16
There's a small detail which you seem to oversee, we now have advanced to the point where we can explain a great deal of things and we have theories and some proof that lead us to believe that certain things happened in a specific way which is, in my opinion, more believable than what any religion has to offer. This is why atheism is 'flourishing'at the moment, we know so much more stuff now than what our ancestors did and thats why we are starting to doubt the beliefs that they passed down on us. You are right that a unicorn is easy to disprove because it is something that noone ever took seriously, but why does it make more sense that there's a celestial being that's watching over us and is responsible for the creation of the cosmos and everything there is to be. It made sense back then because it was the only explanation we got, it still is in a way but we're on a path where we're solving many questions at a speedy pace and this is why we're starting to doubt that millenia year old belief. As for the question you say, i cannot say with certainty that there is nothing out there but if i am 99% sure that there is not, and if there is and i am to be judged on sometime then i would ask God why did he put so much effort into hiding from us, and if me not believing in something i had no proof to back up my belief is enough to 'punish' me then that's that. I don't need a religion for a moral compass, i try to be the person i can be everyday of my life. If that's not enough, then i have no need for such foul God.
2017-02-17 22:33
germanistan and swedistan most clever countries kappa all muslim rapefugeees
2017-02-17 17:31
North Korea is atheist aswell. Indeed Czech Republic and North Korea are clever countries.
2017-02-17 17:35
It doesnt make any sense, bruh.
2017-02-17 17:37
czech republic arent smart because of that. what made them seem smarter is the fact they knew better to give up in ww2 before anything happened.
2017-02-17 17:38
apparently you dont know anything about czechoslovakian history, there was a betrayal from UK, France and someone else(dont care). What could we do?
2017-02-17 18:35
im not calling you out for anything. i just said your country was actually proper rational during ww2 and knew when to quit. look at prague. the city is just as beautiful (the actually good looking bits of the city at that) as it was while warsaw got double fucking penetrated by russia and germany xd
2017-02-17 20:45
"Why the hell would i believe in something that doesnt exist?" do you have a proof?
2017-02-17 17:38
If you say there is a god, you have to prove it If i say there is a magic invisible dragon on my garage, can you deny it?
2017-02-17 17:44
proof? answer my question ill answer yours ;)
2017-02-17 17:45
that's the point, you have to prove not me.
2017-02-17 17:46
you can't prove that something doesn't exist and you can just say it doesn't exist until someone proves it to you, it's that simple
2017-02-17 17:51
whats his name?
2017-02-17 17:47
Do you have a proof, that there is no god?
2017-02-17 18:00
because you cant prove that there is a god ?
2017-02-17 18:12
because no one can proof that there either is a god or there isen't :)
2017-02-17 18:14
god is known by brain you dont have to see him to prove or disprove him :)
2017-02-17 18:27
I don't care if people believe in god or not. But i absolutely hate when People act like they have a superior way of thinking and they are smarter just because they are atheists. I mean yeah there are atheists out there who are rly into the topic and after some thinking they decided hat Religion doesnt make sense to them. But most atheists are just stupid cunts who have no plan about life and just believe another theory which they cant proof is right. They didnt think of it themselves but they just believe in what everybody around them believes in. And that my friend doesnt make u smarter especially because both theories are absolutely ridiculous when u think of them. Life is ridiculous when u think of it so how do u know which Theory is right and which isn't? :/ oh wait u never actually thought about it ur just some motherfucker who acts smart and thinks hes modern because he calls himself an atheist lol. And why whould czech republic be the most Atheist Country?? It's a fucking 3rd World Country so no.
2017-02-17 17:41
Most atheists don't feel superior at all but there are always some dicks who are just being dicks. Also, atheism is not an ideology and it does not explain how the universe works. So there is nothing to prove. :)
2017-02-17 17:44
it's hard not to feel superior when so many people believe and base their lives around imaginary gods and other religious figures. us atheists are the sane level headed ones imo.
2017-02-17 17:50
ur proving me right now ur too blind to even consider looking at the other side lmao
2017-02-17 17:54
You are both making ridiculous generalizations. It's useless using statements like "most atheists are..." and "most religious people are...", or even worse "all atheists are..." or "all religious people are...". There are a multitude of people having very different beliefs, there are radical differences from one religious person to the next, even from the same church, and it's the same for atheists. I know it's reassuring to put everyone in the same box, but it's really inaccurate.
2017-02-17 18:01
ok, so u belive in big bang or what? And then everything just fell into place? like gravity so we can live and the photosynthesis so we dont run out of oxygen? The perfect discante to the sun, so it's neither to hot or cold?.. I just dont think that something random could create this.
2017-02-17 18:06
you make a good point
2017-02-17 18:09
ty, i know that it is hard to belive for many people, but imo it is more likely, that this was thought through by a god, and not just randomly came to exist after a big explosion
2017-02-17 18:18
thats actually exactly my opinion bro. Ive thought so much about it and i rly think that all this being created just randomly is just more unlikely than a smart intelligent "creature" who created all that. This is what most atheists dont see lol that their believe eventhough it is "scientific" is just unlikely and ridiculous aswell ..
2017-02-17 21:43
totally agree :)
2017-02-17 21:47
Well if it doesnt exist why can you think about it? doesnt the fact that we can think about it and that we create an image in our mind of a moral code make it real for us? and if you believe in it doesnt it become reality to you?
2017-02-17 17:44
By that logic Harry Potter and The Lord of the Rings are just as real. Personally when I think about the concept of god (or any superior entity, make your pick), moral and ethics are not part of the discussion. I know it's something that comes up a lot for many religious people when I talk about it with them, to them god is intrinsically linked to our moral and our values, but it's really not to me.
2017-02-17 17:57
You need to trust in god, if you don't do it you're going to hell buddy..
2017-02-17 17:46
i'm a deist
2017-02-17 18:05
If you believe there is no God then why bother asking others if you are wrong? just live life on what you believe and stop posting shit threads
2017-02-17 18:10
Hey guys, I am Jesus Christ and if you don't believe me, then you are wrong because you have no proofs =D
2017-02-17 18:12
what a fcking dipshit, reported
2017-02-17 18:16
It's funny cause maybe in some time we'll be able to create AI and create our own world just as a simulation. You dont even know if you're more than some code and you're crying about someone's belief... Let ppl think what they want as far as it doesnt hurt anyone, what's the problem?
2017-02-17 18:18
We are smart yes
2017-02-17 19:32
just respect people who are religious dude
2017-02-17 19:45
ok but if anything goes to shit we got this duud on our side https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/jesus-christ-king-of-poland-876
2017-02-17 20:16
At the end of the day no one is gonna convince anyone to convert. The only thing we can do is live are lives and once we die, we will find out who was right.
2017-02-17 21:52
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