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Snax MVP wtf?!?
Brazil gabsbelini 
Yep, flag checks. But pretend im no br and think about what im gonna say. Coldzera had much mlre more kils, much better kdr and slightly better adr ove all the games, why isnt he the MVP? If we go and try to find highlights they basically have the same amount but cold had way more impact than snax. Winning the tournament shouldnt be taken into account when chopsing mvp and i think that made snax the chosen one, anyways imho its pretty unfair
2017-02-20 10:38
cry is free and by your logic if it doesnt matter where you place in the tournament then Niko should be MVP
2017-02-20 10:40
yes he can cry here \_/
2017-02-20 10:40
#24
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Israel Encryp7eD 
(for OP) because the most valuable player in a tournament is the one who mostly(!) thanks to him his team won, and SK didn't win so cold's kills aren't as VALUABLE as snax's.
2017-02-20 10:51
that is the point ffs.
2017-02-20 10:52
As a VP fan i would agree witd Cold being MVP of this tournament. Should be enough to reach semis for MVPs team since it's aleady very good. Also going that way Snax should get Major MVP as he carried VP harder there. Eventually Device would be fair enough but Kjaerbye? lul
2017-02-20 13:10
#90
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Israel Encryp7eD 
VP didn't win the major, therefore snax isn't the MVP (the player with the best KD and etc. isn't the most valuable if his team didn't win at the end because it shows that his kills were meaningless and not impactful on the game as much as the kills that the winning team has got). picking kjaerbye as the MVP of the major is controversial, but the other option is ONLY device and in no way snax.
2017-02-20 13:17
The point is they were impactful in most of the matches, while Kjaerbye was impactful in just one, other games we carried by Device. VP wouldn't get out of group stage without his clutches so thats huge impact. Similar thing is with Device. As it's MVP of tournament, tournament performance should matter, and Kjaer should get match MVP. I got the point that Kjaer performance decided about winning major, but Device gave his team this opportunity by being beast in semis and before. Like with golden shoe, if someone was shooting goals like mad for whole season, why winner of champions league should get it? MVP picked from pool of semi-finalists would be fair enough.
2017-02-20 13:29
#8
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Brazil fuNNa 
cause VP won the tournament its ok he deserved the MVP of this tournament if SK was the champion for sure it was coldzera but this didnt happen congratulations to polish boys theyre good and funny guys see you in katowice
2017-02-20 10:41
#49
RpK | 
France KepleR82b 
I usually hate brazilian scene because they only flame other nationalities, but not you, much respect
2017-02-20 11:15
fake br
2017-02-20 11:17
#53
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Brazil fuNNa 
thats hurts me bro
2017-02-20 11:19
sorry man i didn't mean to... but (as the guy above said) br guys always flame if SK loses a tournament ;(
2017-02-20 11:24
#58
NiKo | 
France Meduza 
man the fuck up. mr "jacked" guy. More like fat sensitive guy. Get some fuckin cojones.
2017-02-20 11:30
hahah nice one
2017-02-20 11:31
#64
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Brazil fuNNa 
its ok many br fans are toxic but never forgot most of them fake flaggers, remember hltv before 2-3 years no brazil but there was a time LG became famous and brazil flaggers run hltv down
2017-02-20 11:38
#59
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Brazil aleszev 
it would be fer, for sure
2017-02-20 11:30
fer should be MVP imo, but i wasnt watching final match
2017-02-20 13:38
#118
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Brazil fuNNa 
its allways same if you win + good stats = MVP if you loose no one care about winning team, good plays = MVP so ye snax deserved
2017-02-20 15:05
That would be true but mvps must come from the two finalists
2017-02-20 10:41
first of all fer was better this tournament. dont just look at statistics cuz like half of colds frags were eco ones. and yeah he was great in the final. but only the final. while fer and snax were amazing all tournament
2017-02-20 10:46
#cry is free
2017-02-20 10:40
Coldzera is always put in positions to make those 2-3 frags but he doesn't make any big plays so I wouldn't consider naming him an MVP in any tournament. Though I agree that MVP shouldn't be always given to a winner.
2017-02-20 10:40
bruh even THORIN's mvp was cold lul
2017-02-20 10:45
Thorin is a jerk, not an argument for me
2017-02-20 10:45
cry here --> \~~~/ cry here ---> \__/
2017-02-20 10:51
#34
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Brazil fuNNa 
FRENCH SUPERTEAM
2017-02-20 10:58
cry here --> \~~~/ cry here ---> \__/
2017-02-20 11:06
#42
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Brazil fuNNa 
there is no reason to cry it was awesome final and match with great persons on both sides
2017-02-20 11:07
obvious mixup
2017-02-20 11:08
Also, imo one of the reasons sk lost it (apart from losing that 1v2) is because they werent consistent as players, taco and fallen too far behind, that disnt happen in vp. Fer and cold had to carrt the whole team
2017-02-20 10:40
#12
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Poland bot_taz 
cry is free
2017-02-20 10:45
that's what happens when your team rotates only one or two players on the gear
2017-02-20 10:52
Yep, you'd totally know about gear.
2017-02-20 11:15
+1
2017-02-20 11:17
+1 for fer's blatant gear
2017-02-20 14:57
Then dont +1 my reply, uneducated bagguette
2017-02-20 15:07
+1 for uneducated brazilian gear users
2017-02-21 07:38
player from winner team gets mvp. period.
2017-02-20 10:40
Thats what i tried to explain that i do not totally agree, anyways too many kids here, /close topic
2017-02-20 10:43
Problem, hltv doesn't give a fuck about how you think the MVP should be selected
2017-02-20 11:19
Actually nobody here gives a fuck about anything
2017-02-20 13:31
You started this childish topic by yourself. Snax was destroying on last major and should be MVP both in stats and clutch plays, but they lost to astralis and the trophy went to Kyarbea or whatever this kiddo's nickname is. It literally happens every tournament and it's a world of sports trend that the winner gets MVP. Plus, you know so little about the game that you pick coldzera even tho it was fer was carrying SK since game 1 of the tournament.
2017-02-20 13:07
+1
2017-02-20 13:31
#7
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Taiwan SCVready 
Remember, cry is free
2017-02-20 10:41
Hltv medal ranking is so weird, just because you won the grand final doesnt mean you should take the MVP Device was MVP of the major and coldzera of DH Vegas
2017-02-20 10:42
keep dreaming loser snax had better rating at major
2017-02-20 10:49
i'm pretty sure that coldzera was the one with the best rating at the major, look coldzera 1.31 hltv.org/?pageid=247&playerid=9216 snax 1.26 hltv.org/?pageid=247&playerid=2553
2017-02-20 16:32
2 maps less, not in final
2017-02-20 16:33
doesn't matter because when SK faced VP coldzera still had best rating than SNAX even tho that VP won the series 2-0. hltv.org/match/2307547-virtuspro-sk-elea..
2017-02-20 16:37
hahah nt
2017-02-20 16:51
are you really slow or something? its a fact that Coldzera performed better than Snax while SK faced VP at the Eleague Major and at DreamHack las vegas what else do you want? if he can be better than SNAX even while his team is losing that means that he is better than snax doesn't it? btw you can't argue against stats just look their match at dreamhack las vegas hltv.org/match/2307939-virtuspro-sk-drea.. Coldzera 77/52, Snax 59-53 and SK lost the match which make his stats even more impressive.
2017-02-20 16:56
snax was best player at major and still he didn't won MVP medal.
2017-02-20 11:04
#80
World B-eZ 
+1
2017-02-20 13:08
not really, coldzera had better rating than snax at the major too, check #130
2017-02-20 16:32
That makes no sense, if winning doesn't matter then Niko should be MVP of Vegas. Since he owned cold in stats.
2017-02-20 13:10
The mvp goes always to the winning team. Its like in NBA finals the other team wins 100-30 and someone on the losers gets mvp. It just doesnt work like that.
2017-02-20 10:47
yep, just figured that, didnt think it worked this way, pretty dumb way honestly. It always go to the winning team, coldzera couldve gone 10.0KDR and still wouldnt get it
2017-02-20 10:49
mvp isnt for loosers
2017-02-20 10:47
Shox doesn't agree with you. xD
2017-02-20 10:55
Niko was the best player of the tournament :)
2017-02-20 10:48
kind of agree with you, imo he is top1/2 player in the world, but I just figured MVP only goes to the winning team, gg.
2017-02-20 10:51
sherlock
2017-02-20 11:00
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Snax | 
Poland soreeeh 
Lol Snax has the biggest amount of kills 237 my friend, when cold is at 231
2017-02-20 10:50
SNAX:Key stats Total kills237 Headshot %37.1% Total deaths179 K/D Ratio1.32 Maps played12 Rounds played295 Average kills per round0.80 Average damage per round84.2 Bait assists per round0.08 Grenade damage per round3.32 Average assists per round0.13 Average deaths per round0.61 Rating (?)1.18 COLD: Key stats Total kills231 Headshot %45.5% Total deaths148 K/D Ratio1.56 Maps played9 Rounds played248 Average kills per round0.93 Average damage per round94.8 Bait assists per round0.07 Grenade damage per round1.29 Average assists per round0.12 Average deaths per round0.60 Rating (?)1.36
2017-02-20 10:56
#61
NiKo | 
France Meduza 
plz coldzero is overrated. I bet u would suck his brothers dick
2017-02-20 11:32
mvp goes to the winner team kid
2017-02-20 13:06
That's because VP played more maps LOL. Poorlak brain.
2017-02-20 10:57
shouldn't matter Cold MVP of dreamhack Snax MVP of Major would be much more fair, don't punish players for shitty team performance
2017-02-20 13:13
VP played 3 more maps and he only has 6 more kills, KDR 1.32 while cold 1.56.
2017-02-20 13:05
A member of the tournament winning team will 99% of the time get the MVP in almost every sport/competition unless the losing team member's performance is legit mindblowing, which Cold's wasn't. If mouz came runners up, then I'd consider giving Niko for example. Fer > Coldzera this tournament anyway... and don't bother showing me the rating. Considering the team is structured to give Cold eco and trade frags, Fer's impact was way higher.
2017-02-20 10:51
+1
2017-02-20 10:57
He got it because he should have got it at the major but was conned out of it because of some Danish pleb having 1 good game after being decent whereas Snax was a monster.
2017-02-20 10:52
Cryisfree gahahha, Coldzera? tier 2 player or what?
2017-02-20 10:54
omg monkey thinks this god coldZERO could win mvp such a monkey cry is free
2017-02-20 10:59
Winning team gets it everytime, if we look at it like you do, then snax would get mvp at the major. Its like that in any other sport, so saying it doesnt make sense is funny
2017-02-20 11:04
Nope even if argentina lose at copa america or world cup still messi got MVP xd But u have right about major and snax mvp
2017-02-20 11:07
??? hltv.org/match/2302648-luminosity-g2-esl.. G2 lost to LG and guess what? Shox MVP.
2017-02-20 11:12
Same situation with snax at eleague major. He should be MVP but they lose in final and 1 of astralis got MVP (kyerbye or somthing like that - dunno how to write his nickname xdd )
2017-02-20 11:05
#44
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Poland misioneos 
MVP must win tournament
2017-02-20 11:11
traditionally MVP's are from winners team
2017-02-20 11:13
of course it should, cold wasn't 'valuable' enough, Snax was valuable enough for his team to win the tournament. Its not about who was the best player, it's about who was the MVP
2017-02-20 11:13
coldzera is not even a top 20 player lol
2017-02-20 11:17
"But pretend im no br and think about what im gonna say. Coldzera dajkfagsdjhashdjahsjkld aslkdashkajsldhlasdhasjdh gagakhgkajghajklghkjflkj fhalshflasjfhalsfhas;lfa gkjahfakjdhakjdaskhdkajsdhkjashdkjash" Thank you.
2017-02-20 11:28
#57
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France MarioReL 
Im not a big fan of Snax being the MVP. If i had to give it myself i would choose Byali who had extremely good tournament. fuck snax :( alaways him when vp win tournaments.
2017-02-20 11:28
#62
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CIS Merlas_mtk 
he was the best in final for VP
2017-02-20 11:35
#87
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France MarioReL 
yes but byali was just behind and had a better tournament overall than snax.. if the mvp medail just count for the final ? i arent think that
2017-02-20 13:14
#89
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CIS Merlas_mtk 
ofc mvp medal is just for final, look on major, device was the best player on major but in final he sucks and kjaerbye got mvp
2017-02-20 13:16
#124
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France MarioReL 
oh yeah i see, that's alright then.
2017-02-20 15:15
#63
Germany mkai 
I agree cold should have definitely been MVP but he was in the losing team
2017-02-20 11:37
Cry is freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. Last major device won the mvp, but snax had better stats, so who the fuck cares about the player which team chocked some big white polish cock?
2017-02-20 11:41
wasn't Kjaerbye the mvp of the last major?
2017-02-20 15:26
#139
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Portugal sarkQ 
y
2017-02-20 16:47
sry Kjaerbye was
2017-02-20 16:53
Yeah, im agree, but Snax brings VP comeback to the victory. And as somebody just writing here talking shit about Device.... "this is just statistics", so.... the statistics of Device is only nothing statistics and statistics of Coldzera deserves MVP?? It's ok, just quit off this bullshit of haters.
2017-02-20 12:49
i think they both were pretty equal in case of consistency and impact but vp won that's why snax got it but you br people can be proud that cold is still the best in the world. ignore haters.
2017-02-20 12:55
#68
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Europe 3MK 
snax played 3maps more so ofc coldzera has better stats
2017-02-20 12:56
#86
FalleN | 
World Vechnyp 
doesnt make sense when astralis literally played like trash for 2 maps
2017-02-20 13:14
I must agree with you - cold had more kills than snax but player from the winning team must earn a MVP. The same history was on eleague major. Snax was the best player but kjaerbye received MVP. Anyway byali was key player in matches against SK and Astralis. He should be MVP of tournament.
2017-02-20 12:59
#70
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Slovakia sanjuro 
nothing in this world is fair, ofc coldzera or fer should be mvp
2017-02-20 13:01
the champions get everything not the losers snax deserve it <3
2017-02-20 13:03
mvp is given for that player whose team won lmao so pretty much expected from brasilian, that wants things sk's way :>
2017-02-20 13:05
Thats how Kjaerbye stole mvp from snax in Atlanta
2017-02-20 13:06
#75
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Argentina roulettesoad 
i remember messi losing world cup 2014 and they gave him MVP lul, so why coldzera cant? i mean, they lost but can be MVP anyway
2017-02-20 13:06
#76
FalleN | 
World Vechnyp 
hltv.org/?pageid=181&eventid=2541 niko deserved mvp more
2017-02-20 13:06
#107
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Finland no_man 
i actually agree but im not gonna check the link cause im lazy
2017-02-20 13:49
if someone else deserve for MVP than Snax it would be Fer, not Coldzera. Cold played very well on finals but Fer was just insane whole DH.
2017-02-20 13:07
#88
bodyy | 
Afghanistan remiska 
this, cold is soon gona be most overrated player ever
2017-02-20 13:16
May be, he makes a lot easy frags. For example while attacking site he's peeking as this second one or vs enemies ecos. Well 5 years of professional scene on high lvl in CSGO but 99% of community sees only frags.
2017-02-20 13:21
#95
FalleN | 
World Vechnyp 
thats why players like taco exist, they throw him in to know where enemies are, taco has clearly worse aim than coldzera and taco's "death" would impact their team less
2017-02-20 13:26
and anyway pseudofans of any T1 team will write after every fail: -PashaBOT +Michu -Taco +Fnx make great SK again ETC ETC but they do not realize that quadras of one player is often work of 2-3 ppl teamwork. Ofc there is many insane clutches 1v4 or aces but i hope u know what im talking about.
2017-02-20 13:33
but to be fair, for example niko gets some insane deags and shit which will make you lose round and eco, meanwhile snax kills you through box and in the end fanboys will say that snax put more effort into it, lol, i am not saying he doesnt deserve mvp i just think people are just too bias tbh.
2017-02-20 13:36
exactly, im VP fan but not fanboy and think that Snax shouldnt be MVP aswell. There was no "Most Valuable Player" (key word - VALUABLE) in VP, they won as a team, everyone of those 5 had bad match. Most valuable player was IMHO Fer or Niko (higher convictionto Fer) HLTV rating, rankings, tiltes are worthless.
2017-02-20 13:57
#82
World B-eZ 
CRY CRY CRY
2017-02-20 13:10
#85
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Poland kurwafa 
CRY IS FREE R Y I S F R E E
2017-02-20 13:14
#92
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Poland kurwafa 
btw cold didnt have more kills, just a higher rating cause he died less hltv.org/?pageid=173&eventid=2541&player.. hltv.org/?pageid=173&eventid=2541&player.. cold: 231 snax: 237
2017-02-20 13:20
2017-02-20 13:19
2 ez
2017-02-20 15:07
3 ez
2017-02-20 15:23
Snax won, coldzera didn't. It's that simple.
2017-02-20 13:25
Snax was by far the best player of the entire tournament.
2017-02-20 13:26
+1
2017-02-20 13:27
Snax played better than Kjaerbye for Major, but Denmark won the tournament. Kjarebye played a great final and was voted player of the tournament. Sometimes one match > all tournament. Snax deserved on Major and now. Cold also played great.:))
2017-02-20 13:39
#105
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Finland no_man 
Snax made map 3 possible.
2017-02-20 13:41
#106
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World ARSONN 
cry more malpy
2017-02-20 13:43
#108
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Slovakia Denysis 
CRY IS FREE
2017-02-20 13:51
Always MVP is from winner team
2017-02-20 13:53
#116
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Germany ToxlC 
Because for some reason the MVP is always from the winner team
2017-02-20 15:05
#117
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Brazil s0nichs 
cry here --> \~~~/ cry here ---> \__/
2017-02-20 15:05
#120
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United Kingdom drackula 
you don't give an MVP award to the losing team you absolute goblin! how can they be MVP if they didn't actually win?
2017-02-20 15:07
if sk would win fer would be mvp anyway not cold
2017-02-20 15:08
If VP won the major he'd have received an MVP award as well. Winning a tournament has a huge impact on who gets the MVP award.
2017-02-20 15:12
#125
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Ukraine take_away 
SK have only aim skill, run and shoot, nothing more just like Navi. Snax is a clutchmaster and mastermind. No one of brazilians can do such a clucth like with molotov on train
2017-02-20 15:16
#127
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Poland eReFKa 
Because winner gets the mvp
2017-02-20 15:24
snax is more important to vp than coldzera is to sk
2017-02-20 15:29
2017-02-20 16:34
#134
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Netherlands Nivex 
Winning the tournament shouldnt be taken into account when chopsing mvp It should to some degree, because it means he was the core player for winning the whole tournament.
2017-02-20 16:36
#136
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Albania Kush9 
cry is free ... monster snax top 1 and mvp for sure
2017-02-20 16:40
>Winning the tournament shouldnt be taken into account when chopsing mvp and i think that made snax the chosen one, anyways imho its pretty unfair then NiKo should be the mvp. he was playing mental
2017-02-20 16:40
Snax was more impactful thanks to him they won
2017-02-20 16:41
Fer is the real MVP to be honest. Imho this tournament Fer > Snax > Cold
2017-02-20 16:48
#144
ISSAA | 
Jordan zordak 
its hard to beat team like sk "Vp WIll played" `Deserved`
2017-02-20 16:59
#145
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Germany FlopoXI 
that he had more kills during the tournament isn't an argument because SK had like 2 more maps than VP did. I dont think cold had more impact specially not in the grand final otherwise SK would have won.
2017-02-20 16:59
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