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SADOKIST ROASTS VIRTUS.PRO
World stileish 
2017-04-19 22:35
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nice to see someone with a voice in the scene actually calling bullshit. good canadian boy with a moral compass. just accusations of course, but gonna bring more attention to something very plausible
2017-04-19 22:36
It was sarcasm, he wasn't serious and you're an idiot for thinking it could even be remotely plausible.
2017-04-20 00:34
#119
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Finland jayss 
he's not saying VP is match fixing, he's saying they're not trying to win these online games hence they're throwing. the reason why IBP got banned was not because of match fixing, but match fixing was a proof of them throwing. why do you think VP has a reputation of sucking online? team of their caliber shouldn't be losing fucking 16-1 to a t2 team on one of their best maps, sadokist is being 100% serious here
2017-04-20 01:56
+1 Thank you for spelling this out for the idiot
2017-04-20 02:48
+1
2017-04-20 11:16
#137
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Poland LGf 
i dont see nothing bad in "throwing" when you dont gain anything. i bet you played many matches not trying so hard because you didnt care "because it was MM" maybe for them online matches are like that. I doubt it since they get rekt on lan too but for sake of argument.
2017-04-20 11:24
#144
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United Kingdom FullSpe3d 
+1 its like banning football teams for not using their first team lineup in cups (FA cup, league cup etc)
2017-04-20 11:42
#146
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Sweden Kasidro 
except that the team on the pitch actually tries to win :P
2017-04-20 11:48
#147
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United Kingdom FullSpe3d 
im sure VP are trying to win, they just arent trying very hard. its not like they're going into an online game purposely trying to lose, they just dont prepare for these matches as much so they obviously arent going to play at their best. its the same as in football, eg if a team is fighting relegation in the league or something, the manager will field a shittier team to rest the first team players, and they are more prone to upsets and losing to lower teams.
2017-04-20 11:55
#165
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Sweden Kasidro 
yeah I agree
2017-04-20 12:19
#195
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Poland LGf 
coach was throwing xD
2017-04-20 13:50
the reason why IBP got banned was not because of match fixing, but match fixing was a proof of them throwing. idk if i miss understood but "throwing" a match is not a reason to ban teams but if you get money from doing it you will get banned (ex. betting skins to your opponent and losing)
2017-04-20 11:36
exactly IBP was banned for life for betting on their own matches, matches they were throwing. Valve is American organization. We have a huge precedent here in the USA for what happens for betting on your own games. His name is Pete Rose, he was one of the best baseball players in history all time leader in several categories, but he was caught betting on his own games, some of them he was winning and having huge impact. He was banned from baseball for life. even banned from ever getting into hall of fame. That is how betting on your own matches is handled here, you are banned forever, and if they didn't know that then that's on them, because pete rose being banned for life is a huge story, as are his unsuccessful efforts to be unbanned. And pete rose banning for life was the response to the chigago 'black sox' fixing a world series like in 1916 or something. We have a history here of throwing games for money (usually the mob involved)
2017-04-20 16:21
+1 I hope VP guys will hear it but... do they even care?
2017-04-20 11:57
This is not true, valve only banned those which received skins from the throw. That's the only reason they were banned.
2017-04-20 11:59
#194
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Finland jayss 
no, that was the proof of them throwing, it's in valve's statement
2017-04-20 13:37
#2
Romania deni! 
he got payed way to much money to just yank his mouth around and now hes a cocky little tird
2017-04-19 22:36
lol, a tird.
2017-04-19 22:57
+1
2017-04-19 23:00
#126
KHTEX | 
Brazil madruuu 
he got cocky over the time, but i agree with him talking about VP, no way they can lose that much, i mean, the "VP golden rule" exists since 2014 and still true.
2017-04-20 02:41
What you dont understand? Sadokist is obviously stepping up and trying to wake VP up. If you understood what he said correcrtly you would know he didnt mean anything against vp.
2017-04-20 12:23
#190
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United States CWalker 
S A R C A S M
2017-04-20 13:19
Very curious what would happen if they could get ban as they are a HUGE part of the community and they have the biggest fanbase.
2017-04-19 22:38
the rest of infinity would have #freevp #freesnax etc as the fan boys lament at valve's unjust decision.
2017-04-19 23:24
harsh, but true.
2017-04-19 23:35
#4
flusha | 
Netherlands davin 
just the truth vp been throwing for years
2017-04-19 22:38
You see, all these big teams have owners, who owns big betting sites. So obviously, just like in football, basketball, baseball, american football, hockey etc, throws is not far away. Can you imagine how easy it is to get away with it, if you have everyone in a big organisation backing you. I mean, they can earn some free money from it. As much as we might hate it, it is a smart tactic, kids belive in fairytales, why not write books about it ;)
2017-04-19 22:40
+1
2017-04-19 23:16
And the funniest thing is that these kids are mad bcs of wesa rules lol
2017-04-19 23:44
Truth is that most of us would do it for money. No consequences, big money. Why not? Personally I would chose money over morality. Wouldn't you?
2017-04-20 12:25
If it would be my profession, of course.
2017-04-20 12:35
So if you were a doctor you would convince people to get their kidneys removed to make more money? So on top of being a vegan faggot youre also a cockroach? Expected.
2017-04-20 13:06
No, as a doctor, i would help people, that would be my profession. Imagine, there is actually doctors that do their job, which is to help people. Expected from an montenegrin..... Oh, yea, i have read your history, so i know how you guys are, barbaric fucks that pretty much ruined every country you came to. Just like many serbs, bosniaks. The Croatians are fine imo.
2017-04-20 13:11
how long did you think on that kid, this is so stupid comparing cs go match fixing to "convince people to get their kidneys removed" retardness level 128
2017-04-20 13:11
#6
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Ukraine hYDROPONYQUE 
free ibp
2017-04-19 22:40
#7
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Finland ginbay 
I must agree scripted games I hate them too..
2017-04-19 22:40
Who cares. He's gay
2017-04-19 22:41
flag checks out
2017-04-19 22:43
#19
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Luxembourg Hargreaves 
Flag checks out.
2017-04-19 22:46
#29
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North America B0bbutttoast 
Flag checks out.
2017-04-19 22:57
#33
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Poland Drunkenstein 
Who cares. He's gay
2017-04-19 23:00
#57
fnx | 
Brazil Beicom 
+1
2017-04-19 23:17
#187
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Czech Republic Prevodovka 
Flag checks out.
2017-04-20 13:14
czech flags out
2017-04-20 23:17
#223
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Poland kapoo 
Out flag checks gay.
2017-04-20 23:59
#52
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France France98123 
flah checks out
2017-04-19 23:16
expected 1800s respond by a pole, flag checks out.
2017-04-19 23:21
#66
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Europe Vallon 
Flag checks out.
2017-04-19 23:24
Out checks flag.
2017-04-20 00:11
#96
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Argentina CrayZ 
Out flag checks.
2017-04-20 00:15
HenryG & Sadokist KappaPride
2017-04-20 01:53
#208
f0rest | 
Argentina Nawll 
Flag checks out.
2017-04-20 16:27
#9
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Saudi Arabia OG_Donald 
LOL he just telling the truth vp online = ibp
2017-04-19 22:41
#13
Zeus | 
Other Chuckeee 
He needs to keep his opinions to himself only and respect the players because if not for the players, these casters/commentators would be jobless.
2017-04-19 22:44
#32
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Germany AngiMerkel 
he is damn right to finally say it... without the casters there would be a fkn lot less people to watch csgo and there are a lot of other teams that would attract viewers other than vp
2017-04-19 22:58
Sadokist is an unthinking loudmouth who got to top of the scene too fast
2017-04-19 23:03
#44
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Germany AngiMerkel 
lol him and henryG are by far the best commentator duo, who would you want to see instead? the only other alright ones are james and ddk, but they work for faceit not for esea
2017-04-19 23:10
James and ddk, machine, moses, anders and semmler, those b stream guys on ESL, metuz, even pansy. HenryG is excellent, he could even cast as the main caster.
2017-04-19 23:12
#51
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Germany AngiMerkel 
as I said james and ddk wont happen, machine is a desk host, anders and semmler are by far the worst as the major part of the community has confirmed (totally faked excitement and ear blasting screams)... b stream guys, really?? pansy is total cancer and doesnt understand shit about the game (typical grill) and metuz is alright and on the right track, but not half as exciting to listen to as the main duo henry and sado <3 (im sure 80% of the csgo community would back me up on this one)
2017-04-19 23:15
You mean 80% of the reddit circle jerk would agree with you on that one? :D I have pretty clear criteria for good casting that is: good spotting of great plays and shots; not only hyping up certain players (kennyS, OMG NIKO); know something about the game; witty small talk and chemistry is extra (DDK James). Seems like your 80% enjoys neverending gay jokes, awkward silences combined with semi-ironic boasting and edgy commentating.
2017-04-19 23:19
#63
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Germany AngiMerkel 
MAN ARE YOU BRAINLESS? HOW MANY TIMES DO I NEED TO TELL YA THAT FKN JAMES AND DDK WONT WORK TOGETHER WITH ESL???????? and you suggested "P A N S Y" and want to have someone knowing stuff about csgo??? what a retarded bait, proves how stupid you are!
2017-04-19 23:21
Wtf is your problem? I thought we are discussing the casters, not if James and DDK are in ESL or not LOL. Pansy doesn't pretend that he knows some next level shit, and does her job as a play by play caster (and i luv pansy). My points stand. Turd
2017-04-19 23:24
#72
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Germany AngiMerkel 
well I asked you to suggest someone... obviously as I now tell you for the 4th time, james and ddk DO NOT WORK! Pansy constantly says wrong things. She makes plenty of mistakes and anything else about her is just annoying! Sado and Henry are pros, sado might change the topic sometimes, but as henry stays focused on the game, thats a perfect balance!
2017-04-19 23:30
"Pansy doesn't pretend that he knows some next level shit" Wow, either you never seen her cast or you are silver 1 who can't tell when she is saying complete nonsense. Pretending to know next level stuff (and average semi-pro level stuff) is exactly what she is doing constantly, and she is failing hard. Which is the reason why she irritates so many people.
2017-04-20 11:37
#217
f0rest | 
Belgium Qker 
Good spotting of great plays and shots; not only hyping up certain players (kennyS, OMG NIKO); know something about the game Yet you call Pansy anders and semmler good casters.. How hypocrite are you? (This doesn't mean i like sadokist, he just doesn't disturb me as much as those three)
2017-04-20 22:40
Anders and semmler used to only hype gtr, shox etc but nowadays they're more neutral. And ok, i just like pansy.
2017-04-22 09:19
i already told this, when they trwe a game against pride on WESG
2017-04-19 23:17
#60
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Germany AngiMerkel 
thats good my slowakian friend :) or any republic whatever
2017-04-19 23:18
sadokist would still have a job if vp didn't exist. your point is non-existant
2017-04-19 23:11
#110
Zeus | 
Other Chuckeee 
You didn't get my point. By players i said all of the pro csgo players and by casters commentators i meant the whole group of casters commentators. He doesn't have the right to accuse a team of cheating/throwing. Certainly not VP because they are the oldest non broken lineup csgo has ever seen. They made this game watchable by giving their entire life to practice it to perfection. You are just a caster who doesn't have any idea about pro csgo and you accuse a great team of throwing. Childish.
2017-04-20 01:01
Almost NOBODY would watch those players without casters. And casters would not be casters if there was not any game. They are complementary, they both depend on each other. To cast is as much a job as playing csgo on top level. You do not need to be a professional in game to know stuff. Sadokist knows perfectly what he risks and we all know that what he said is true. Even if it was not, it is not normal as VP 'best team in the world' or at least top 5 loses 16-1. They have to tryhard, they have to respect the org that allows them to play in their championship. It's mutual respect and right now VP are being highly disrepectful.
2017-04-20 13:27
#154
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Denmark donfrankie 
If the players don't respect the game, then just say no to being a pro and earn money.
2017-04-20 12:04
I don't really think they're throwing on purpose, it's been like that for years, long before it was possible to bet on CS games. Even at golden 5 times, they used to perform superb on lan, only to lose the next online game versus some swedish mix or some new upcoming team
2017-04-19 22:44
this is what people don't understand xd. even 1.6 times they were trash online
2017-04-19 22:46
#122
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Finland jayss 
sadokist is not talking about match fixing, he's talking about throwing. are you seriously trying to say that VP was trying to win their games against Heroic? if so, then VP is just fucking garbage
2017-04-20 02:00
I would pay to him, so he can shut up and not having to hear this bullshit everytime.
2017-04-19 22:45
wrong reply
2017-04-20 16:15
Sensitive about other opinions, haha triggered cuck.
2017-04-20 11:37
nt brazilian, but you dont even have money for food
2017-04-20 16:15
#17
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Finland ELEGVNCE 
Yust replying so i can watch it later
2017-04-19 22:45
LOL
2017-04-19 22:51
Whoah dude nobody has EVER made that joke in the past 3 years :oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
2017-04-19 22:52
sado obviously wasnt joking but i guess youre just living up to your name CaptainAutismo
2017-04-19 22:54
nice to see a roast on a thread about roasting
2017-04-19 22:56
Says a lot about the low count of chromosomes you have with that reply kid, go crawl back into your favela haHAA
2017-04-19 23:06
#23
Denmark cyb1 
Its time someone said it.
2017-04-19 22:54
Whats new? this is common knowledge...every team does it from time to time...VP does it frequently. Proof ? 0
2017-04-19 22:54
"best team world" losing to shit kids 16-1 doesnt just happen
2017-04-19 22:55
Nuke was a obvious good pick for Heroic and the quotes were dumb as fuck but i never expected such a dominating performance. I never go on VP because i dont trust them anymore at all
2017-04-19 23:14
#69
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Europe Vallon 
VP aren't the best team in the world, lmfao. Not now, not before they started throwing/sucking ass.
2017-04-19 23:25
you are so stupid... please just let normal ppl discuss and limit yourself to reading only.
2017-04-20 12:53
#34
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Germany AngiMerkel 
ahahahha its the consistency of them losing online...
2017-04-19 23:00
VP do this shit every year and most people forget about it everytime they go back to the top
2017-04-19 22:57
hahahahahaha
2017-04-19 23:01
if they get f*cked on train as well, i wonder what sadokist will have to say.
2017-04-19 23:01
#38
FalleN | 
World Vechnyp 
sado reads hltv PogChamp
2017-04-19 23:03
#42
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Poland Drunkenstein 
Actually he said true i respect him for that but im really surprised that people are still betting onine matches with no stake i do not even feel sorry for those retards
2017-04-19 23:05
it doesnt matter if you bet or not. if VP is throwing (which they obviously are) thats shitty and they should be banned. It takes the "competitiveness" out of "Competitive gaming" for fucks sake
2017-04-19 23:11
When the autism is too much
2017-04-19 23:12
#115
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Sweden Froxez 
this shows that #25 actually triggered you
2017-04-20 01:44
<3 DaZeD Love people who matchfix and risk the integrity of the entire scene <3 swedecucks lmfao
2017-04-20 01:56
#121
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Sweden Froxez 
told ya triggered
2017-04-20 02:00
triggered haHAA 12 btw
2017-04-20 02:14
#74
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Poland Drunkenstein 
but they have life and family taz and pasha have kids they will not play cs 8h every day, snax has 88h in battlegrounds, played even today so they are just not prepared and not preparing for match should not be consider as a throw (other thing if they bet on oponent but it didnt happen since its not proved)
2017-04-19 23:37
#123
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Finland jayss 
THEY HAVE LIFE? WOW, I GUESS VP IS THE ONLY TEAM WHERE THE PLAYERS HAVE LIVES OUTSIDE GAMING, WHICH IS BY THE WAY THEIR FUCKING JOB don't be stupid, there are no excuses for VP, they just don't give a fuck
2017-04-20 02:02
#134
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Poland Drunkenstein 
#133
2017-04-20 11:10
#142
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Poland LGf 
yea deal with it battlegrounds is good game if they want to lose some matches because they rather play it than practice in cs it's their choice. why are you so mad you lost some skins ?
2017-04-20 11:38
Tell me they tried to win that 16-1 game. They didn't, at no point. And that is basicly the definition of a throw.
2017-04-20 02:53
#133
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Poland Drunkenstein 
Do you really think in easter holidays they were playing counter and watching demos? You must be really stupid if you think they lost on purpose. They just didnt practice few days and of course main event this year for them is krakow so they dont care about this match
2017-04-20 11:09
By that logic, Heroic should have done the same right? Also no reason to call me stupid. What I am stating is just that VP are not too full of competetive integrity.
2017-04-20 13:10
#189
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Poland Drunkenstein 
I didnt know that heroic have legend status and they are inviting for most of highest tier tournaments without qualifying
2017-04-20 13:18
That doesn't justify not trying to win. Let me say it once again: they were not trying. Go watch the VOD, it is a shitshow. It doesn't matter how legendary a team really is. Throwing is throwing.
2017-04-20 13:32
#197
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Poland Drunkenstein 
They played shit doesn't mean they lost on purpose. And no, im not as bored to watch online matches
2017-04-20 14:51
please dont make fun of poland XD you can't be just dumb "they got kids they cant work 8h per day" are you retarded? ppl have 5 kids and are working 10h per day out of home, especially polish ppl, they are sitting at home most of the time and they get so much money that their wifes dont have to work at all XD you are dumbest hltv person ive ever met
2017-04-20 12:56
#185
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Poland Drunkenstein 
Are you trying to bait me or what? They have to spend easter playing cs because other people work 10h per day? They get so much money from org even without wining all tournaments. They will prepare well for krakow and everyone is happy why would they care about random online match with zero stake your statement is illogical and you calling me dumbest hltv person I hope you are baiting
2017-04-20 13:12
Its not about easter. Its about 2 months. Even if they win krakow then what? again 2 months without passing group stages? Losing to tier 4 teams online? No way Im buying this. I hope some hard working team wins major, who deserve it.
2017-04-20 13:13
#49
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Argentina juanme555RIP 
Funny roast and he looked like he actually meant it for a second....but what if he is right? :O
2017-04-19 23:13
wasnt roast he was serious
2017-04-19 23:18
#111
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Argentina juanme555RIP 
xD
2017-04-20 01:13
#54
720 | 
Germany felixlulz 
how much did he lose?
2017-04-19 23:16
#55
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Germany Merkelistan 
respect for Sadokist, because he said the truth.
2017-04-19 23:16
#59
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Other HaZaaR_ 
He's right though, people's only argument to this is that he should stop running his mouth and show some respect, not that he is wrong. How does it happen? How can a team that wins huge tournaments lose so incredibly unless they aren't trying? Going out last at LAN is bad, but at least there is some degree of effort put in. People say stupid things like 'Anything can happen online' as if it is some sort of mystical force that just enforces itself on online play only. Shit like that has nothing to do with the fact that a team that calls themselves the best team in the world continuously shit out in games that should be at least competitive, if not a blowout for a team of this calibre.
2017-04-19 23:18
#70
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Europe Vallon 
+1
2017-04-19 23:26
It feels like Taz saying "we are number 1" and then losing every single match against any single team (expect space soldiers) he just wanted to make better odds against vp :] I just dont understand it, your team has biggest fan base ever, all polacks following your results etc and you simply make huge POOP on them. How arrogant vp guys have to be, i just cant understand
2017-04-20 12:59
#62
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Europe BanMeIfYouCan 
Sadokidt unprofessional af Lost all respect
2017-04-19 23:21
#65
Stewie2K | 
Thailand nBz 
I gained more respect for him, cause he's calling it as it is. !
2017-04-19 23:23
based sadokist people mad at him are mad at the truth
2017-04-19 23:30
This is not the first time and VP is not the only team that throws. maybe sado didn't get and banana today.
2017-04-19 23:39
#76
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France ColonelAnders 
Very good question to bring on the table, I gained all respect for Sadokist
2017-04-19 23:44
also making false accusations publicly on "screen" is quiet illegal. hope he has to sell that sports car to pay for lawyers
2017-04-19 23:45
?
2017-04-19 23:48
he basically called VP thieves without any proof on a live channel covering the teams game, with their fans watching, what dont u get?
2017-04-19 23:49
what sports car
2017-04-19 23:50
#218
f0rest | 
Belgium Qker 
nvm
2017-04-20 23:03
#98
FalleN | 
World Vechnyp 
false accusations? show any any other team which will get away from playing like trash online and playing decent on lan? there is none except vp, everytiem they lose online game instant excuse is either too many lans, too many bo3 in one day, just online game nothing important and many other
2017-04-20 00:17
how does them being unique make his accusations TRUE?...
2017-04-20 00:20
because there is no other team play this bad lmao
2017-04-20 00:19
so that = vp are throwing? I don't see the logic
2017-04-20 00:21
They are not throwing they just don't give a shit about online which only they can get away with. It would be cool to remove invites for events and see if VP ever got through to the actual tournament.
2017-04-20 16:40
in case you didn't know some of the top teams have the same owner, sooo as a tournament organizer you kinda have to invite them, coz otherwise none will show up.
2017-04-20 23:08
#116
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Sweden Froxez 
well vp are known for betting in their matches but on themselves, as well the situation that happened a few years ago when they played offline and won just to bet on themselves when csgolounge "opened" the betting for the match a few hours after it was played when it was shown on stream
2017-04-20 01:51
I can only assume in the next 24hours he will post an official apology for this on twitter
2017-04-19 23:46
#83
Stewie2K | 
Thailand nBz 
Sure AF don't hope so, man speaks his mind, and speaks the truth, should do the same with NiP though.!!!!
2017-04-19 23:50
he gets payed to comment on the live action not make conspiracy theories live in front of a teams fans imb4: this will not remain unnoticed
2017-04-19 23:52
#86
Stewie2K | 
Thailand nBz 
He gets paid to comment on the live action?... No he get paid to comment on a game, whilst they're live, he ain't even remotely making any conspiracy theories. If people are mad at him for speaking out, thats because they're a bunch of sad fucking retards who can't take the truth, its kinda like the girl that cannot handle the truth about her butt being MASSIVE in that one FUCKING PAIR OF JEANS!
2017-04-19 23:55
m3n, really, read what you just wrote. it makes no sense. put your mind to it dude... how can you say its not a conspiracy theory when the guy has no proof? those are false accusations
2017-04-19 23:58
he didn't say they are matchfixing he just said they are throwing as in they don't give a fuck which is undoubtely true.
2017-04-19 23:56
did u even watch the video wow
2017-04-19 23:58
throwing = not playing to your full potential on purpose = cheating = matchfixing
2017-04-19 23:59
do you expect them to give 100% for every meaningless online game? LUL
2017-04-20 00:07
DUDE, watch the video! he starts by comparing them to IBP
2017-04-20 00:08
#91
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Hungary hardrise 
Jesus christ they are also humans, they can have day-offs and they can shit into a game whenever they want. It's their schedule, it's their life. If you are stupid and betting on esports, where is a lot of priority-questions with all the big offline and online events, quals etc., it's your fault. I don't care if VP getting raped a couple of times, I know when they really want to compete, they can. Let them live what they achieved already. ;) PS.: Does this mean they are not professional? Yes, or rather they are human beings at the first place with possible other desires then winning the stupid fuckin Pro League match you bet on.
2017-04-20 00:07
#120
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Sweden Froxez 
It's still a league with qualifications and money on the line. I would agree with you if this happened to a team which were "just" in a slump but this is vp. They have always been doing this. They should always play their best and care about the game, otherwise they're not professionals.
2017-04-20 01:59
#125
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Hungary hardrise 
Then they are not. I don't think they care about this though. I don't think they should.
2017-04-20 02:35
#127
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Sweden Froxez 
Thats exactly the problem here lmao "they dont care"
2017-04-20 02:43
#202
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Hungary hardrise 
It's your problem, not theirs. ;)
2017-04-20 16:05
are you braindeaded? Thats what sadokist is takling about and you are using like an excuse for throwing the games
2017-04-20 11:59
#201
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Hungary hardrise 
They don't need excuse, especially not towards any of you guys. :D
2017-04-20 16:04
you sure? Just threw the game infront of 40k people, ok gg
2017-04-20 16:11
#214
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Hungary hardrise 
So what? Should they ask for your apology? :D Keep ragin lads, nothing's gonna change though. ;)
2017-04-20 22:20
i am not raging i am just calmly asked you if you are braindeaded and still no answer..
2017-04-20 23:51
#224
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Hungary hardrise 
Then sorry, as far as I know its living. ;)
2017-04-21 00:21
So other teams are not humans? Somehow other good teams don't do things like VP do. Other good teams dont lose to tier 3 teams. And vp lost 16:5 to envyus. They can when they want? KATOWICE is my answer.
2017-04-20 13:01
Why are there so many naive people who are calling him out on this? Part of what he says has merit. VP are one of the best teams in the world, yet they have shown time and time again that they don't even bother trying in some matches. They aren't throwing on purpose, but to not even give a damn is inexcusable for the scene. Taz keeps posting all this crap about them being #1, but VP's extreme inconsistency and apparent lack of effort say otherwise.
2017-04-20 00:08
lol what you expect? they think they can get away with it because in poland they are raised on crime. it is #1 source of income in a rat riddled 3rd world country.
2017-04-20 00:17
i gained all respect i didn't had for sadokist
2017-04-20 00:25
100% agree
2017-04-20 00:28
#106
Dosia | 
Croatia Veelo 
i agree
2017-04-20 00:32
well said. at least 1 with ballz
2017-04-20 00:33
#109
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World nouman 
agree with sadokist. just because everyone including vp themselves know them to be a much better team on lan than online doesnt mean they can just continuously not try in online games.
2017-04-20 00:35
Everyone knows vp are throwers since 2015. Free IBP. At least sado said it. Not like the rest of this pussified PC scene.
2017-04-20 01:18
Vp is my favourite team but i still agree 100% with sadokist lul,u can throw by loosing 14-16 or smth like that BUT NOT 16-1 ON A MAP THAT U WON IN A MAJOR FINAL FFS
2017-04-20 01:21
#114
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Finland kappaboi 
+1 they didn't even try
2017-04-20 01:27
so true
2017-04-20 13:08
its funny bc vp has been shit online before csgo even existed and there were no skins/betting sites....sadokist is a loudmouth fgt that is way too full of himself. He needs to be knocked down a peg or 2
2017-04-20 02:45
he is right. its so obv they just dont care they get invited anyways lol
2017-04-20 02:51
i mean.....
2017-04-20 02:52
#136
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Europe kennyBeast 
Vp is trash. Sadokist is completely right.
2017-04-20 11:22
>Vp is trash. >Sadokist is completely right. pick one nobrainer
2017-04-20 16:31
#213
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Europe kennyBeast 
Who let you off the toilet?
2017-04-20 19:03
Almost as bad as when moe roasted koosta.
2017-04-20 11:30
Sadokist is right
2017-04-20 11:40
dayuuummm
2017-04-20 11:48
finally someone with balls to call them out wouldn't imagine someone like anders calling them out semmler I think wouldn't but can
2017-04-20 11:58
I support sadokist
2017-04-20 12:00
i think that virtus pro can't defend themselves and therefore they will perish in fleames and let FaZe won
2017-04-20 12:02
#155
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Denmark Astralis_no1 
If you're going to throw a game against a T2 team, surely you'd get more rounds than one?
2017-04-20 12:04
ya even nip won 2 rounds against vegas squadron to make it look like they were somewhat trying
2017-04-20 12:07
#157
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Denmark Astralis_no1 
i dont do betting on games myself, but maybe some sites you can bet on the score? imagine the odds on 16-1 Heroic.
2017-04-20 12:08
ya im sure you can, they have all these random strange things you can bet on xD these odds would be nuts
2017-04-20 12:11
lul :D You think that NiP throw major qualifers? NA :D
2017-04-20 12:08
maybe they knew they wouldn't get anywhere with their current roster anyway
2017-04-20 12:13
hahahaha :D n1 Kdg90 - 90 is your iq? hahahaha
2017-04-20 12:19
maybe you didn't get the memo - they changed their roster since lol
2017-04-20 12:22
#215
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Hungary hardrise 
+1 :D
2017-04-20 22:22
this is how it works throw the games -----> get invites to every LAN event -----> play like shit in group stages -----> repeat -----> profit
2017-04-20 12:15
#172
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Poland Klenny 
+1
2017-04-20 12:47
lost all respect for vp
2017-04-20 12:44
lost all respect i had for VP
2017-04-20 12:58
Vp probably lost all fans nowadays, too stressfull to cheer for them too much lies and dissapointments. Too much unfulfilled promises. We are number 1. Then they got smashed 2:0 by top 40 teams.
2017-04-20 13:10
everyone who is betting consistently, he knows that vp are one of the biggest throw teams in csgo. no one is talking about it, but they are throwing so many games. and why not? they have a bet site in the background, before they had csgolounge who was owned by polish guys.
2017-04-20 13:18
You seriously think they need money from blackhat betting...Just a phase with worse results. Chill
2017-04-20 14:58
In 2014/2015 they throwed imo. In 2016/2017 since they get 20k/Month or more, they are not throwing directly, they are just not playing serious online.
2017-04-20 15:41
I gained all respect for Sadokist.
2017-04-20 13:35
#207
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Brazil Smartzilian 
lost all respect I had for VP
2017-04-20 16:23
gained all respect for sadokist
2017-04-20 16:29
EXACTLY! I never liked Virtus.Pro anyway
2017-04-20 22:24
#222
f0rest | 
Belgium Qker 
lost all sadokist for respect
2017-04-20 23:54
16:00fnatic vs Liquid
fnatic
1.37
Liquid
3.02
14:30AVEZ vs PACT
AVEZ
2.96
PACT
1.30
22:00paiN vs DETONA
paiN
1.52
DETONA
2.45
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