i don't care about level, if it's second division in europe don't care. best crowds ever are here, best songs are here, and boca juniors win interncontinental cups against madrid and others and have 18 international titles with milan.. independiente avellaneda have 16 titles.. better than real madrid, brazil it's 5 times world champion argentina and uruguay 2 times. and the passion is here :) look images and videos of la guardia imperial, torcida nacao rubro-negra, la 12, los borrachos del tablon, la banda del parque & barra amsterdam, there's the passion ;) so looking in boca juniors and independiente international titles.. are you sure that south america it's equal to europe's second divisions ? u kidding, btw u r from canada, do you know anything of football history ? brazil best of all the world :) last best football players 3 from south america, ronaldinho, kaka, messi. ranking fifa national teams, uruguay its 3rd! record! so shut up please.