SK is not even the best team in their country lost to immortrash lmao
Actually there were some good T1 teams back then,
VP, TSM, NiP, Envyus
How many teams do we have for SK today?
FaZe, G2 and maybe Astralis? Thats even less than fnatic had
I know, people here are just butthurt and/or delusional. That fnatic line up would struggle to make top 10 tbf.
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Fnatic clearly are a lot worse now than they were under Pronax. None of them play with confidence anymore, and their teamplay and trust in each other has gone to shit.
Prime Fnatic would actually match up very well against SK I think.
Fnatic was good when csgo was more aim-based than tatic. That also explains the french teams doing good that couple of years.
What happened is that fallen changed the meta in 2016 to a more tatic game than aim-based. That was the fall of lazy-skilled teams.
How do you compare 2015 Era to 2016-2017 era. CS right now is way more competitive. Take a look at G2, Fnatic and NIP. All of them were at the very top a few years ago but now they are not even top 5 apart from G2. Old fnatic was amazing in their time but right now its like comparing apples with oranges...
pronax is returning to take care of FNATIC because GODSENT won't make it to the Major and because of the WESA rule RFRESH will drop them as an org so players will search for anothers orgs
"but when old fnatic was good there was not many good teams to challenge them"
Yeah, because they were miles ahead of everyone.
SK has to sweat for every title.
But yeah, keep up these threads.
fnatic lost their power finally when they failed against s1mple's Liquid, then there has been no fnatic, just their lost memories.
almost every team that exists not existed back then
not many good teams
the reason there weren't that many good teams to challenge them was because they were that dominant
sk won fnatic in their home lul
why are this idiots silvers here? talking about shit they dont shit about.
Stop saying old fnatic old vp old nip old nv
fnatic have the same roster
vp have the same roster
old nv did nothing last year
nip had the core 4 roster changing the 5 since 2014
Why are people now baiting with the "fnatic era wasnt competitive" bullshit? Are you guys actually that retarded to believe that or just new to the game?
when fnatic was the best - titan, navi, envyus, vp, nip, tsm, lg, yes not that much competition..
now - sk, g2, faze, astralis
80K id plebs telling you how it is, gg
You must be challenged. EnVyUs and Fnatic had one of the greatest rivalries in 2015 and Na'Vi was world class and only improving towards the end of 2015 and TSM was always a huge threat remaining a top 5 team year long.
you're not nessesary correct,there was shitload of competition from a lot of teams however the difference was that a lot of them had their own style while fnatic had their unique run and gun,the difference,the thing is that there're a lot of new players which did not really player on that level while fnatic is fairly known now,however if fnatic changes their playstyle(what they're doing now) other teams got something to be afraid,even throught we're yet to see results of that.
There were teams challenging them like TSM, Envyus in their prime, LG (16-0), Navi
Stop with these shitty baits you newfags honestly, 2015 was WAY more competitive in tier 1 than it is now, the only reason now no team can dominate the scene is because all the top teams are inconsistent, they go literally months without winning anything, have a good run where they win 1 or 2 events than go back to months without winning anything.
Tier 1 Fnatic, NiP, VP, Na'vi, TSM, EnvyUS 6 teams, in tier 2 you had teams like Titan & Luminosity just to name a couple. The only difference is Fnatic was consistent as fuck and winning a lot of events because of that.
Fnatic fell out in bad terms arguing etc... competition got better and fnatic got worse they can comeback to a good form i believe
well, tsm, best nip, best vp, best envy, best navi.
the thing is that fnatic destroyed them all event after event
In terms of domination NiP era will always be #1
In terms of consistency and events' importance Fnatic's era will always be #1
SK don't have any eras like that but 1st half of 2016 can be described as SK's playground during everyone's development
And btw you cant compare teams now to teams back then cuz the game itself has changed a lot, the scene has grown and some teams didnt even exist lul
Fnatic fans are so delusional lol
do u want me to link u the 16-0 fnatic vs luminosity or what
you are COMPLETELY wrong. You either didn't watch CS back then or you've forgotten what it was like. Tier one back then was even more skilled and competitive than it is now, and yet fnatic still won tournaments. EnVyUs and TSM (now Astralis) played their best in late 2015, and teams like Na'vi, VP, and NiP often had insane tournaments, but fnatic still took home so many trophies across the entire year.
This is because fnatic's lineup was composed of many of the era's most skilled players. They had olof, undoubtedly the best player of 2015, krimz, a legendary support player, flusha, an incredibly smart player with insane game sense, jw, a player who, while not a star, was a consistent awper who could make risky plays to bring his team ahead, and finally, pronax, a talented igl whose leadership tied the team together. I cannot convey how much of a superstar lineup this was, so I just advise you to watch their matches and see for yourself.
While it's impossible to compare fnatic to SK and Astralis, since they all peaked at different times, the way they consistently won tournaments during the most competitive time in csgo history shows that they are one of the best teams of all time, if not the best.