Forum thread: Top 20 players of 2017 so far

No Rain in top 20 list , fuck off with your dumb list

2017-07-10 15:44

2017-07-10 15:46

rain is really good but you saw him play godly in els cologne is 3 matches and now he is your favourite and if i dont put him here the list is dumb.... Thats just my opinion about this list what i think

2017-07-10 15:47

One tournament , ahahhahaahha xD

2017-07-10 16:19

Dreamhack Cluj-Napoca was in 2015 , this is 2017 hello?

2017-07-10 16:15

He been insane last 6 months

2017-07-10 17:57

even though you are kinda biased i do agree he should be top 20 but not higher than 15.

2017-07-10 18:28

he's the backbone of a top 2 team, he's definitely top 10 atleast.

2017-07-10 22:14

backbone? just because he has played in the team the longest doesnt make him the most important. Niko>rain, also karrigan is as important as rain. not fragging wise ofc

2017-07-11 00:51

i didnt say he is the backbone because he has been in the team the longest.

2017-07-11 05:35

You're 125% correct.

2017-07-13 11:57

2017-07-10 22:44

dude its just my personal opinion its just how i see players how i see the pleayer spirit in them..

2017-07-10 16:09

+1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2017-07-10 16:10

2017-07-12 21:12

"2. Device , Astralis is on his point now and Device is leading them" That's not true, I've seen so many games where Astralis dominated the enemy and devve was bottomfragging minus k/d and xyp9x just doing his things with dupreeh or kjearbye

2017-07-10 15:45

2017-07-10 15:54

well i did i statistics which player is playing more consistently and better than the others...

2017-07-10 16:19

Can't base everything off of stats though. You have to use a bit of the eye test.

2017-07-10 17:48

yes its almost like if its some kind of trend that awpers/secondary awpers tend to be rated higher than rifle players.

2017-07-10 18:31

Device carries through league play and group stages, then is average during playoffs. Shouldn't be number 2 but still up there.

2017-07-10 18:33

Astralis has just great team, not like device is so much carry, other teammates step up when he is not performing, this is what I meant

2017-07-10 23:05

kjaerbye ? mvp of mlg columbus ? xD

2017-07-10 15:46

oh sorry i meant eleague major

2017-07-10 15:53

what is this shit? guardian before kenny shox kjaerbye? no rain? kek and mixwell 9. XDDDD what the fuck

2017-07-10 15:47

yes??? what dont you like ? GuardiaN is a beast and is better than Kenny , shox and Kjaerbye , rain is really good but i dont think he should be in top 20 maybe top 30 because he has godly matches , and matches where he is at the bottom

2017-07-10 15:49

hltv.org/stats/players/events/2757/Guard.. No Also you're putting Guardian over this guy: hltv.org/stats/players/events/7167/kenny..

2017-07-10 16:06

guardian is a bot yet u put him at #12

2017-07-10 16:00

If you say GuardiaN is a bot , then sir youre oficially a BOT!

2017-07-10 16:04

guardian is a bot, no way this chubby guy is better than kenny XD

2017-07-10 17:21

even allu is better than guardian in the last 3 months

2017-07-10 19:34

where tabsen?

2017-07-10 15:50

only playing t2 and t3 doesn't get u on this list

2017-07-10 17:51

2017-07-12 21:09

This is just a retarded list from the top of your head. No research or work is put into it. Waste of your own and our time. /close

2017-07-10 15:50

dude its just my personal opinion its just how i see players how i see the pleayer spirit in them..

2017-07-10 16:08

S1mple not deserved, he is good and pretty much the only consistent NaVi player but he didnt win shit this year. Max Top11 just like niko last year when he didnt win anything

2017-07-10 15:52

dude its just my personal opinion its just how i see players how i see the pleayer spirit in them..

2017-07-10 16:08

not saying that s1mple as a standalone player doesnt deserver at least top5 but player ranking are always closly related to player achievments which s1mple didnt really have this year but i believe NaVi will win at least one tournament this year

2017-07-10 16:10

2017-07-10 16:11

No bodyy in top 20?

2017-07-10 15:53

haha funny :D

2017-07-10 15:54

lmfao ur stupid, device isnt even in top 10 snipers how do u want he is in top 20

2017-07-10 15:54

device is not in top 10 and you want me to put bodyy in top 20? wow ur soo funny French maybe watch some cs before posting

2017-07-10 15:55

w8 HLTV top 20 stupid faggot lmfao, bodyy is the best incoming player 4 sure with BnTeT

2017-07-10 15:56

ok i can bet that bodyy will not be in top20 list ;)

2017-07-10 15:57

lets go :)

2017-07-10 15:58

think he will be but i dont think he should be personally.

2017-07-10 18:35

+1 But shix deserves to be lower than kenny this year

2017-07-10 16:03

+1 But shox deserves to be lower than kenny this year

2017-07-10 16:03

dude its just my personal opinion its just how i see players how i see the pleayer spirit in them..

2017-07-10 16:08

1. coldzera 2. FalleN 3. NiKo 4. fer 5. kennyS 6. device 7. rain 8. Xyp9x 9. k0nfig 10. autimatic 11. s1mple 12. Stewie2k 13. olofmeister 14. shox 15. gla1ve 16. f0rest 17. kioShiMa 18. Skadoodle 19. Kjaerbye 20. Twistzz 21. ropz 22. oskar 23. JW 24. EliGE 25. Mixwell 26. NBK 27. Felps 28. bodyy 29. Magisk 30. ANGE1 31. tabseN 32. AdreN 33. koosta 34. Snax 35. suNny 36. byali 37. nex 38. HS 39. GuardiaN 40. mou

2017-07-10 15:54

I would put bodyy in top 30

2017-07-10 15:55

39 GuardiaN are you kidding me ?

2017-07-10 15:55

So many players that have played better then him this year.

2017-07-10 15:56

I see no problem guardian being 39. But i think Niko in game was better than fallen. If you consider IGL stuff, ok.

2017-07-10 22:09

Way better list. Even though it's pretty obvious that NiKo is at least top2

2017-07-10 15:55

+1 way more accurate list

2017-07-10 16:05

dude its just my personal opinion its just how i see players how i see the pleayer spirit in them..

2017-07-10 16:07

Good list, I would just put oskar up a bit, definitely top 20 this year

2017-07-10 17:52

AdreN, Snax, Magisk and Kjearbye should be higher, rain and ropz (he is kinda new) should be lower in my opinion. Overall good top40

2017-07-10 18:00

Yeah its super difficult to place everyone

2017-07-10 18:29

Snax 34 and Konfig 9 , seems legit -_-

2017-07-10 18:53

Snax 34 and olof 13 xDDDDDDDD

2017-07-10 22:15

olofmeister in 2k17 lul

2017-07-10 15:56

dude its just my personal opinion its just how i see players how i see the pleayer spirit in them..

2017-07-10 16:07

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2017-07-14 00:46

how come f0rest is on 16 xD

2017-07-10 15:56

Should be first.

2017-07-10 15:58

newfag 16 yo kid tries to make top20 list without any knowledge. this site is a joke xD

2017-07-10 15:59

who are you calling a kid , sir its just my personal opinion its just how i see players how i see the pleayer spirit in them..

2017-07-10 16:07

i'm calling you a kid because you're a kid/teenager, not insulting you or anything thats the fact

2017-07-10 16:47

14 - kennys ? 2 or 3

2017-07-10 15:56

nah not that good so far , maybe later this year hes gonna go in top 7-6

2017-07-10 16:07

I think in the top 5 there will be coldzera, NiKo, s1mple, falleN and fer (not sorted). So kenny I would say between 5 and 10

2017-07-10 16:14

Kenny can easily be included in the game and become the top 3 , I believe it

2017-07-10 16:32

I can't see how he'd be considered better than these guys DKdarKnight mentioned. He can become top 3, but he is not rn.

2017-07-10 19:45

> S1mple > Top 5

2017-07-10 17:57

hahahaahahaahaaah nice joke xDDDD kennyS is not better than Coldzera, Fallen, Device, Fer or Niko XDDD Even Oskar, S1mple or rain is better than kennyS :) :) This your opinion is very stupid my russian friend :D xDDD

2017-07-12 21:33

did you know that Astralis fags ? well, in principle, the same as you

2017-07-13 10:03

HAHAHA Its nonsense :) xDD Astralis is 100000x better than your G2 xDDD Do you mean yourself? I think yes XDDDDDDDD hahahaahahaaahahaa G2 is from France, so did you know that G2 fags? well, in principle, the same as you :)

2017-07-13 11:34

haHAA u 12 btw haHAA

2017-07-14 00:47

haHaa u 12 btw haHAA

2017-07-14 10:36

rain top 1 or bait

2017-07-10 15:57

dude its just my personal opinion its just how i see players how i see the pleayer spirit in them..

2017-07-10 16:06

ahahaha kjaerbye major mvp #19 ahahahahahah gla1ve #8???????? no fer in top 20 ahahahahaahahah kennyS #14?????? 2 mvps so far

2017-07-10 15:59

dont you see fer? are you blind mister?

2017-07-10 16:00

kennyS 3 MVPS

2017-07-10 17:53

guys dont be mad its just my personal opinion...

2017-07-10 16:00

dude its just my personal opinion its just how i see players how i see the pleayer spirit in them..

2017-07-10 17:57

dude its just my personal opinion its just how i see players how i see the pleayer spirit in them..

2017-07-10 18:01

dude its just my personal opinion its just how i see players how i see the pleayer spirit in them..

2017-07-10 18:24

dude its just my personal opinion its just how i see players how i see the pleayer spirit in them..

2017-07-10 22:10

Cold Fer and Niko are all contenders for top 1 atm.... Cold is very, very good but he is always put in clutch/clean up duty positions + he LOVES ecofragging ( ECOZERA ). He will always hunt eco kills like his life depends on it. I would say last 3 months Fer has been better but 2017 is only half way through so will see.

2017-07-10 16:01

do you mean fer is eco killer when he is always playing and rushing with the mac-10? and getting all the eco kills possible ? :D

2017-07-10 16:03

Yes thats true but fer is ALWAYS agressive, eco or gunrounds whereas ECOZERA is only agressive vs eco/lowbuys

2017-07-10 16:04

well yeah , either way both of them is very very good players and deserves both to be atleast in top5 one of em of course top1

2017-07-10 16:05

We just need KENNYS in 2015 goldmode and SNAX in PLOW mode then top5 will be exciting. Right now its Niko + 3 Brazilians and maybe Device or something.

2017-07-10 16:07

I arent think that.Fer is the guy who gets the eco frags and run after It like crazy. And about he being more agressive on eco rounds, everyone is,wtf

2017-07-10 17:41

Cold has the safest role in the team, and he somehow always managed to be the biggest ecofragger of the team. If it keeps this way till the end of the year, cold will be top 1 again, people look at stats first, not at your impact or role, so he will always have more credit than Fer thanks to these ecofrags.

2017-07-10 17:52

In one way its good to build his confidence but in other way his stats are inflated because half of them are eco frags..

2017-07-10 18:44

Yes for sure. Just to complete my statement above, the real number 1 of 2016 should have been Fallen, cold should have been second.

2017-07-10 22:30

I think you didnt see the final of cologne. What he did with that cz was magnific.

2017-07-10 22:11

most stupid list, olfomeister not even top 30

2017-07-10 16:04

dude its just my personal opinion its just how i see players how i see the pleayer spirit in them..

2017-07-10 16:06

are you retardet? i dont care how you see it, wtf u talk about player spirit? go play minecraft, there you can talk about spirit

2017-07-10 16:08

"my personal opinion"

2017-07-10 17:53

Kjaerbye was MVP of EL Major not MLG Major.

2017-07-10 16:08

yeah , i noticed i did a mistake... yet he still got a major mvp :)

2017-07-10 16:09

nice

2017-07-10 16:09

Xyp3x should come in the list.

2017-07-10 16:11

maybe , yeah but we still have half a year of counter strike

2017-07-10 16:12

Top 20 players of 2017 so far -you mean the past of the year not with the future.

2017-07-10 16:13

do you know what "so far" mean sir? its that the list can change because its still half a year left of 2017..

2017-07-10 16:14

It means like "to this point of date" so only for the past of this year not of the future of the year. So you have to check the thing that happend and not whats going to happen sir

2017-07-10 16:15

yes i checked what happened over the past half a year and i did a list with my information , yet the list is gonna change alot because there is alot more cs to come till 2018

2017-07-10 16:17

kjaerbye mvp of mlg columbus hahahaha, what a jeez

2017-07-10 16:11

dude i did a mistake he was mvp of eleague major

2017-07-10 16:12

yeah yeah, u r right =D

2017-07-10 19:25

if isnt a b8,so much shit dont know from where to start

2017-07-10 16:13

1.cold 2.niko 3.fer 4.fallen 5.rain 6.device 7.kennys 8.shox 9.stewie2k 10.k0nfig 11.xyp9x 12.snax 13.automatic 14.allu 15.s1mple 16.felps 17.skadoodle 18.elige 19.taco 20.kjaerbye

2017-07-10 16:17

why is allu here and no GuardiaN here?

2017-07-10 16:22

because GuardiaN is out form , he is best awper ever for me but he doesn't deserve top 20 in 2017

2017-07-10 16:25

2017-07-10 17:36

autimatic not automatic :)

2017-07-10 17:53

yes my fault thanks

2017-07-10 21:23

device better than niko? mate everyone in astralis gives more to team than device, look at kjaerbye and his aim or xyp9x and his clutches, what a fucking retarded list this year kennys,xyp9x,cold,niko,fer,fallen and many others >device imo its 1.allu 2.coldzera 3.niko 4.fer 5.fallen

2017-07-10 16:23

ok gl we gonna see :)

2017-07-10 16:23

Allu have shown he is the best player ever on CS. Those who not agree didnt know cs go.

2017-07-10 22:15

8. gla1ve , just e phenominal igl and a great team spirit made them win mlg columbus , theyr worth it WUT Luminosity get a trophy in Columbus The same Kjearbye, he isn't a MVP of MLG Columbus i think you meant Atlanta Major 2017 in both cases

2017-07-10 16:25

yeah i made a mistake , thanks :)

2017-07-10 16:31

simple > rain, kennys, stewie fer? stfu

2017-07-10 16:26

something that you need to understand, a player cannot hit top10 without winning anything, no matter how good he does. s1mple, olof, mixwell and flusha are just simply not going to be top10 without winning anything.

2017-07-10 16:28

Device should be lower, Push everyone 1 spot down cause fer is currently the best Shox should be lower hasnt done good at all so far this year Guardian, Flusha, Gla1ve, Skadoodle and Stewie shouldnt even be on the list Rain top 7 atleast K0nfig top 10 atleast Xyp9x top 15 probably Bodyy somewhere on the list for sure, him and kenny mostly carrying g2 with nbk stepping in when necessary Try really hard and jw or ropz might be on the list Pasha over snax in the list

2017-07-10 16:31

read the title, cold is #1.

2017-07-10 22:14

Stop reading when i saw s1mple > Fer this year

2017-07-10 17:34

Umm konfig? Rain? Ropz?

2017-07-10 17:41

-s1mple +rain

2017-07-10 17:42

no rain, ska should be higher, no dephh, no alex, no surreal stupid list.

2017-07-10 17:43

Sorry bro but really? You actually think dephh or alex belongs in a top 20 list of 2017, hate to break it to you but what have they accomplished?

2017-07-10 18:27

Dude dont bait please

2017-07-12 19:34

XD nt yellow teeth

2017-07-12 20:15

woah, why you getting hostile? :(

2017-07-13 17:41

Awful list, as expected.

2017-07-10 17:44

edward has a chance to be at the top this year

2017-07-10 17:45

No rain? c`mon son!

2017-07-10 17:48

1 faze player top 2-3 team in the world this year

2017-07-10 17:58

dude its just my personal opinion its just how i see players how i see the pleayer spirit in them..

2017-07-10 18:04

S1mple ahead of fer, no rain. Is this bait?

2017-07-10 18:05

stopped reading at olof

2017-07-10 18:19

1. NIKO 2. FALLEN 3. COLD this

2017-07-10 18:20

Coldzera is 3rd?? LOL WTF XDDDDDD

2017-07-13 21:32

2017 not 2016

2017-07-13 21:51

Niko is not better than Cold or Fallen hahaha

2017-07-14 00:36

Rain????????????

2017-07-10 18:21

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2017-07-10 18:21

2017-07-10 18:24

devve top 5

2017-07-10 18:25

Your "personal" list have nothing to do with reality sadly. Wasted your time posting this.

2017-07-10 18:26

Snax 18 :DDDDDDDDD hltv.org/stats?startDate=2017-01-01&endD.. youtube.com/watch?v=a-BgREkkjcg

2017-07-10 18:30

19. Kjaearbye , probably this year is the best on his carrer , also mvp of mlg columbus major did i miss something?

2017-07-10 18:31

1.cold 2.NiKo 3.fer 4.FalleN 5.kennyS 6.xyp9x 7.rain 8.felps 9.dev1ce 10.Kjaerbye 11.k0nfig 12.NBK 13.Snax 14.autimatic 15.oskar 16.bodyy 17.Gla1ve 18.Ska 19.Stewie 20.f0rest

2017-07-10 18:38

all the hltv newfags getting baited by some third world retard. classic.

2017-07-10 18:39

fallen in top5? s1mple too? he isn't top10. mixwell? gla1ve? guardian and oskar higher than kennyS? skadoodle? what is this? lol

2017-07-10 18:45

nip is still shit tbh, but f0rest is playing well but deffo not top 20 soo far. just becoz he played well for like 5 matches and you put him in number 15 like tf

2017-07-10 18:55

I laughed so much at 5.Simple

2017-07-10 21:32

OMG What a shitty list.

2017-07-10 21:54

stewie is 100% way to low he's igl and his ratio is 1.00+ 95% of events

2017-07-10 22:03

he's igl,thats why c9 will never win anything

2017-07-10 22:34

Xyp9x?

2017-07-10 22:04

no rain no kio nice.

2017-07-10 22:17

stewie,ska,SRSLY ? NA cs(not SK) is a bad

2017-07-10 22:32

worst top what i ever seen xD

2017-07-10 22:34

1-Coldzera 2-Fer 3-Fallen

2017-07-10 22:42

FaZe is 2nd best team in the world, but only 1 FaZe player in top 20?? Makes a whole lot of sense...

2017-07-10 23:34

Kjaearbye mvp of mlg columbus ok... dont u mean eleague major?

2017-07-11 14:36

cringe wheres rain

2017-07-12 20:19

Where the fuck is bodyy ?

2017-07-12 20:46

0/8 ,no AdreN

2017-07-12 21:10

I think olof played shit this year.

2017-07-12 21:12

1. Coldzera 2. Fer 3. Fallen 4. Rain 5. Niko 6. KennyS 7. Dev1ce 8. Felps 9. Kyaerbye 10. Stewie 11. Snax 12. Autimatic 13. Oskar 14. S1mple 15. K0nfig 16. Skadoddle 17. K1o 18. NBK 19. xyp9x 20. Mixwell Not even a fan of SK btw but SK has outperformed faze and cold fer and fallen deserve the top spots imo

2017-07-12 21:49

2017-07-13 11:36

1.cold 2.NiKo 3.fer 4.KennyS 5.dev1ce 6.FalleN 7.rain 8.dupreeh 9.s1mple 10.NBK 11.k0nfig 12.oskar 13.Stewie 14.boltz 15.bodyyy 16.Skadoodle 17.Xyp9x 18.JW 19.Snax 20.draken

2017-07-13 21:44

Elige?

2017-07-13 21:54

Stopped reading at: 20. Flamie , still is playing pretty good

2017-07-14 00:47

1. coldzera 2. NiKo 3. kennyS 4. device 5. fer 6. rain 7. FalleN 8. olofmeister 9. NBK 10. Snax

2017-07-14 00:52

Olof LUL Flusha LUL Glaive LUL

2017-07-14 10:48