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PGL CEO insult pro's
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Portugal dixy234 
PGL's CEO calling pro players crybabies for complainng about the shit conditions and technical issues at the major twitter.com/ssilviu/status/8868838313027.. So unprofessional. Hopefully PGL never has a major again
2017-07-17 13:40
he has a point and he's also right also you're a crybaby
2017-07-17 13:41
+1.
2017-07-17 15:04
#144
RpK | 
Germany lloyd6077 
xDD +1 so true
2017-07-17 15:31
+1
2017-07-17 19:43
#4
FalleN | 
Brazil iagozv 
Make the worse major ever and call 99% of the pros crybabies, wtf ?
2017-07-17 13:44
#69
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United Kingdom HarryBotter 
Why is it the worst major ever? Good quality stream and less issues then esl one last week
2017-07-17 14:54
#78
fer | 
Brazil Ze_Pequeno 
Good quality stream? Did you watch it yesterday at all???
2017-07-17 15:00
#82
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Denmark thekr4k3n 
are you kidding me? yesterday the stream went off for like 15 minutes during a crucial round between Astralis x Noobimmortals, this major is a fucking joke
2017-07-17 15:02
#86
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Romania Zadro 
This never happened in a major before, did it?
2017-07-17 15:03
But it was twitch fault i guess
2017-07-17 15:07
#106
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Denmark thekr4k3n 
no, it was an internal problem, even the GOTV went down
2017-07-17 15:13
#193
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Norway SannyX 
YES DONT BLAME PGL BLAME TWITCH.. hope this CEO gets fired and that they never is allowed to do majors
2017-07-17 19:48
#109
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United Kingdom HarryBotter 
Sorry what i meant was it looked good. the stream itself was awful. still better than esl one
2017-07-17 15:13
the esl one wasn't a major though, was it? thats the whole point....
2017-07-17 19:43
#196
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United Kingdom HarryBotter 
Yes
2017-07-17 20:37
are you talking about cologne this year? that wasnt a major lmfao
2017-07-17 21:19
#204
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United Kingdom HarryBotter 
That's what I said...
2017-07-17 21:33
"Why is it the worst major ever? Good quality stream and less issues then esl one last week"
2017-07-18 00:27
#207
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United Kingdom HarryBotter 
Ez b8
2017-07-18 09:20
15 minutes in overtime + 5 minutes at the 2nd pistol
2017-07-17 21:21
what stream were you watching? There were fucking FPS DROPS on Stream on MAJOR, HOW CAN YOU AFFORD SOMETHING LIKE THIS
2017-07-17 15:04
#108
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United Kingdom HarryBotter 
ESL worse. Stream always breaking and always technical timeout.
2017-07-17 15:13
#168
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Finland DesHis123 
Also 500 ads after games and in halftimes
2017-07-17 15:49
Welcome to 2017, crybaby. there is even a counter in a corner, showing when is the stream coming back. You can mute the stream til then, you can do something else. Is a 5 min break every hour too much of a price for you for high quality entertainment?
2017-07-17 16:41
10 FPS is good quality LOL
2017-07-17 15:35
#152
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United States STERBENVII 
Still a lot of issues. And the PCs should be up-to-par with the pros' needs. This is a major tournament, not some slightly better version of ESL One events.
2017-07-17 15:36
8/8 :)
2017-07-17 15:37
People are so easy to pick sides...probably the truth is somewhere in the middle. For a 1 mil tournament it's a bit "weird" to not have the best PCs...but then again, there's nothing wrong with i5... It's more about the optimization of CS GO if you ask me...and the players' settings...
2017-07-17 13:45
#8
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Portugal dixy234 
PGL = Romania you = romania keep defending their shit major
2017-07-17 14:21
you = dont know shit about computers you = need to shut the fuck up
2017-07-17 14:24
#102
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Andorra TYZ4 
+1 gj. rekt him
2017-07-17 15:10
#136
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Poland Commonwealth 
You spited at that niggah and rekted him. Good job.
2017-07-17 15:27
#156
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United States STERBENVII 
CS:GO is mainly based on the central processing unit. The graphics card just adds some frames, but you need a good CPU if you want your frames to be consistent in this game.
2017-07-17 15:38
csgo (like pretty much all games) cant even utilize the extra threads that come with the i7. An i5 is all you need for gaming. techpowerup.com/forums/threads/gaming-be.. -
2017-07-17 15:43
#169
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Finland DesHis123 
+1
2017-07-17 15:49
#171
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Finland DesHis123 
+1
2017-07-17 15:49
#16
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Romania Zadro 
He's making a call for objectivity (thus admitting that both side can be right and wrong) and what you make of it is that he's defending PGL because he's Romanian? Holy shit you're genuinely mentally retarded.
2017-07-17 14:25
#37
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Portugal dixy234 
i'm not a gipsy
2017-07-17 14:32
#39
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Romania Zadro 
Neither am I and 97% of Romanians. You're still a subhuman tho
2017-07-17 14:32
#67
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Romania xnup 
no but you are completly fuckin retarded lul
2017-07-17 14:54
#103
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Portugal dixy234 
triggered
2017-07-17 15:11
#107
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Romania xnup 
not triggered , just letting you know how retarded you are :D maybe you'll get some help , if it's not too late for you
2017-07-17 15:13
#143
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Portugal dixy234 
it's ok
2017-07-17 15:30
I'm not defending anyone, I'm actually trying to be very objective here. I couldn't care less that PGL is Romanian, but it's really annoying to see threads like this, where you have no clue about the conditions there, yet you are fast to point fingers... Everyone's playing on the same PCs, and probably knew the specs before the tournament...why not petition this before? Why aren't all players crying? Just my 2 cents.
2017-07-17 14:25
#181
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Denmark qwedsa 
While I respect your opinion, I'd suggest following up on things before actually make statements like that. twitter.com/C9shroud/status/886315436677.. I think this ends the debate about i5 @ PGL
2017-07-17 16:38
There's a issue with i5's as their baseclocks don't reach even close to most of the i7's. For CSGO to run smoothly around 300 fps (which I agree with most of the pros with is what you need to properly play the game.) you need a core clockspeed of around 4,4-4,5GHz and a GPU better then 780GTX. I don't see a reason to have the highest-end graphics cards but not enough insight to either get overclockable processors and clock them to sufficient speeds or get processors that'd do the trick without overclocking. Having 170 fps in a Major tournament is ridiculous, albeit the biggest thing at fault here is the game itself. The organizer SHOULD be aware of these kinds of things like where the performance of the PCs stems from on the platform used. On the other hand I agree that people could've handled it a bit more professionally but even as players I am guessing they're just there to do their job - which is play - and they don't really know or care to know the organization running the tournament thus easier to just tweet. Young people don't always have the life experience to behave correctly or to take everything in account and I realize this kind of publicity hurts the brand.. Best way to not make it happen: TAKE THESE THINGS IN ACCOUNT BEFOREHAND.
2017-07-17 14:39
Before anyone takes the non-existent bait: I do not think you need a supercomputer to be able to play CSGO but when you take it to a high enough level those milliseconds and every kind of possible stutter, jitter, lag or anything of the sorts should be eliminated or minimized to the very brink of eliminating it. 170 fps is not this for people used to solid 300. I can already notice the difference in gaming whether I have my i7-6700K overclocked to 4,4GHz or running on the 4GHz clock it ships on.
2017-07-17 14:42
Well that is case solved pretty much, now expecting positive feedback from the players likewise to what shroud posted. I earlier already said that the way both sides worded their tweeting was bad but good that the issue at hand was adressed. Atleast I would've handled the situation a bit more discreetly. :P
2017-07-17 19:37
#54
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Romania Zadro 
Great comment I agree with most of it. However if you're criticizing the tournament organizers on social media, you should at least have a clue about how these tournaments are being run. It doesn't surprise me that the crybabies are players who only attended a few majors while the more experienced ones like taz are keeping it cool. The PGL CEO is most definitely referring to cold and niko who have a reputation for being crybabies.
2017-07-17 14:44
#105
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Portugal dixy234 
cold, niko, shroud, nbk all complained, but you only talk about niko and godzera get a life probably a pgl employee, gipsy
2017-07-17 15:12
#112
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Romania Zadro 
Shroud thanked PGL for upgrading to i7s. NBK also applauded their work. Fucking EU favela, you're too dumb.
2017-07-17 15:14
#141
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Portugal dixy234 
and complained before fucking gipsy, you're too dumb
2017-07-17 15:29
YOU ARE dumb, really.
2017-07-17 15:39
#175
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Portugal dixy234 
i'm not from brazil
2017-07-17 16:17
#179
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Denmark mikyb 
Your stupidity continues showing off.
2017-07-17 16:30
OP is partially trolling anyway, but you're right... Valve has its own fault for not making certain specs mandatory, especially for majors; CS GO itself has performance issues, and finally PGL should've invested more into PCs... That being said, I'm sure those PCs run fine if you don't go to max settings/resolutions...hence I mentioned players' settings... Does anyone know the exact specs and settings for the PCs at this major?
2017-07-17 14:44
Well, I can say for sure most professionals play at resolutions below 1980x1080. The biggest commonly used one is 1680x1050. Anyhow, any of these resolutions shift the power requirements even more to the CPU instead of the GPU. The players can mostly just affect their FPS by changing settings that are anyhow GPU-based features and don't do much if your bottleneck is the CPU. Am I the only one who thinks a organization which wishes to be "the standard" of e-Sports events should know the requirements of the game they're hosting and prepare equivalently? In my opinion - Poland, Finland or USA - this is the one thing especially expected from the organizers. If the game you've organized the tournament for doesn't smoothly run on the event PCs how can you expect high-level from players that haven't been used to such? R I D I C U L O U S.
2017-07-17 15:27
There is nothing wrong with fps 150 fps(in certain cases) in a MAJOR LOL And yes,csgo isn't optimized that well,but the tournament organizers have to adapt to the situation But they fixed it so it doesn't matter
2017-07-17 15:40
#6
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Europe jUN^ 
he shouldn't be a PGL CEO with this kind of tweets... apparently everyone except 3 VP members are crybabies... well done(NOT)
2017-07-17 13:48
Read his tweet again plz... Well done(NOT)
2017-07-17 14:26
#19
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Turkey dogboi2001 
Ofc vp is happy. The more technical delays the longer vp will not get knocked out from major
2017-07-17 14:26
#29
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Nepal hpbaxx 
and Trump shouldn't be president with his kind of tweets.. so what
2017-07-17 14:29
He is 100% right.
2017-07-17 14:21
#11
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Romania Zadro 
He's most definitely referring to coldzera and niko who are a bunch of crybabies, nothing new there.
2017-07-17 14:23
#28
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Estonia driffu 
two csgods
2017-07-17 14:28
Good players but crybabies, so the CEO is spot on
2017-07-17 14:31
#36
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Romania Zadro 
Yeah they're godlike players but that doesn't change the fact that they have huge issues regarding their attitude.
2017-07-17 14:31
#40
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Portugal dixy234 
keep defending them you look pathetic PGL only thing Romania can be proud of in cs no cs scene lul
2017-07-17 14:32
#45
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Romania Zadro 
I myself have made a call for objectivity since I don't have enough evidence to see who's right or wrong. And you're still claiming that I'm defending PGL... really... You truly are a subhuman, your stupidity went for over the top.
2017-07-17 14:35
#125
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Portugal cufwipe 
Ignore that brazilian fakeflagger
2017-07-17 15:22
actually nexus would win any portuguese team atm xD
2017-07-17 14:40
He has a point, so.
2017-07-17 14:24
#20
Magisk | 
Europe Totole 
will i be considered as a crybaby if i want to play/cast in good conditions why does poland still host events w t f
2017-07-17 14:26
#30
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Romania Zadro 
ESL's Major production sucked until they hired PGL for their last major. ESL have hosted themselves events in which the talent lineup was burnt out. DH have always had huge security issues at their events. And literally every single event has technical issues. And it doesn't matter which country is hosting the event, that has nothing to do with the hosting country, but the organizing company.
2017-07-17 14:29
#38
Magisk | 
Europe Totole 
and then we have fucking pgl????
2017-07-17 14:32
#42
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Romania Zadro 
Fucking PGL who pioneered top quality CS production. I guess that you miss ESL's GOTV production with delays between the commentary and he in-game footage? Go jerk off to ESL Cologne 2014 and 2015 then.
2017-07-17 14:33
Hes right. WHAAA 170 FPS IN SOO BAD WHAAAA EWWWW I5 NOT I7 SHIT EVENT SO BAD!!!! Or like normal adults Id really prefer the I7 processor over the I5 since the performance is slightly downgraded
2017-07-17 14:27
#33
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Russia YaD_ 
They are retards if they try to fight the conditions than accepting it and trying to fight a way out. Only dumb and weak people do this. Edit: Conditions which they can't fix in their advantage.
2017-07-17 14:31
he's right man, who cares what some nerds think
2017-07-17 14:28
#43
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Hungary plummie 
PGL always did better tournaments than almost any other organiser. The CEO is right. Mature people (like vp with their 30 avg year lol) acknowledge that. PGL = best. Most of the players = crybabies. #Cryisfree
2017-07-17 14:34
#60
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Romania Zadro 
Well ELEAGUE are doing a better job to be honest, but for obvious reasons: they're being run by a top mainstream media company. Since ESL and DH have used PGL production in the past, I think that this criticism is mostly unfounded.
2017-07-17 14:47
Im actually surprised this comment is coming from a romanian :p I think PGL and ELEAGUE are neck and neck
2017-07-17 15:16
#84
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Europe jUN^ 
so you like the delays and tech issues every game? then PGL is definitely the best.
2017-07-17 15:03
#132
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Hungary plummie 
No i dont like them. But what i like is that there are no retarded casters (except semmler he has become really irritating), Great production crew (good camera transitions, Great stages [ have not seen here yet i base that on previous events that looked good]. It feels like people acutally know the game and what the viewers want. Ofc the technical part is not perfect yet. Still i would take PGL over ESL anytime. The point is that they can fix tehcnical issues, and avoid them in the future. What you cant fix is a production crew that only knows the basics of CS and they only make an irritating sidelane for a good match, while PGL even though has its flaws, actually adds content that you can enjoy. TL DR: PGL has some flaws, but also has superb potential especially compared to ESL.
2017-07-17 15:26
Must be a bait
2017-07-17 15:07
#47
kennyS | 
Estonia BlameS 
I'd go back to DreamHack Winter 2014 any day over a Polish major.
2017-07-17 14:39
no on reddit yet... dafuq? edit: ohh found it
2017-07-17 14:49
90% of pros are crybabies posting everything on twitter instead of talking about problems in private
2017-07-17 14:44
going public is the best method
2017-07-17 14:50
No lol You try to get things fixed in private first. If it obviously doesn't go anywhere then you build pressure by going public.
2017-07-17 15:09
#149
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Finland raivokkuus 
Do you honestly believe no pro has brought up issues with the PCs, for example, privately too? Yet it only got fixed when the issue was publicised. Going public may not be the "best" method, but it's the most effective. Tournament organizers only care about providing a good environment for their players and talent so that they can maintain a good reputation, and it isn't just PGL that have proven time and time again that they won't lift a finger to help unless it's deemed necessary to defend their rep. As soon as that's under threat, though, shit actually gets done. People will probably forgive all of these oversights if the playoff games happening in the arena have no such issues, but I can easily see stuff remaining the same way as it is now and this major being written into the annals of history as one of, if not, the worst ever.
2017-07-17 15:34
Yes, I believe that they don't try to get things fixed in private before. A ton of pros, especially those that are the first to cry on Twitter, act like babies. They're children that will whine until they get what they want without trying to discuss in private in a reasonable manner. And it gets even funnier when they bring up a player's association like it's going to fix all of their issues and in the end the whiners do shit about it and wait until their mommies help them.
2017-07-17 16:27
+1
2017-07-17 19:59
HAHAHAHAHAH wtf xDD this is worst major i have ever seen and this guy talks about "cry babies" xDD XDD
2017-07-17 14:52
#64
nitr0 | 
Canada Surs 
hes right
2017-07-17 14:54
#65
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United Kingdom HarryBotter 
Respect gained for PGL
2017-07-17 14:54
i gained all respect i already had for PGL. stfu crybabies
2017-07-17 14:54
#94
chrisJ | 
Czech Republic Jurys 
expected from a fnatic fan
2017-07-17 15:07
Lost all my respect for unreal ones
2017-07-17 15:08
10fps on twitch stream
2017-07-17 15:14
#128
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Portugal Shion 
he is fucking right althought i agree he shouldnt tweet about it
2017-07-17 15:24
The players who made the subject public were right imho, albeit they should've not tweeted about it. He is not right in accusing the players, he is right to tell them that it could've been handled differently. HE himself could've also handled it differently in many situations and he has chosen not to: 1. Getting proper PCs, he SHOULD know what CSGO requires from a PC to run smoothly and 2. Talking with players personally and not tweeting in a passive-agressive manner with blame.
2017-07-17 15:32
#131
FalleN | 
Brazil iagozv 
Romenia org make a tournament in poland. well...
2017-07-17 15:26
Idk how Romania or Poland is at fault if someone was a idiot and didn't have the sufficient knowledge of CSGO to understand that the PC's need CPU processing power instead of a high-end GPU..
2017-07-17 15:28
expected from poorlaks. cry is free
2017-07-17 15:28
lost all respect
2017-07-17 15:28
#145
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Brazil jia 
not bad at all, but cmon, its the most important event of the year, why they don't provide a good structure like epicenter does?
2017-07-17 15:31
The event otherwise seems to be proper. I've been a part of organizing a 300-400 person LAN and there always arise difficulties no matter how professional you are about it. Some you can prepare for, others need to be dealt on the fly. I don't understand why this issue got to the live tournament phase and wasn't dealt with. That to me is straight-out laughable.
2017-07-17 15:33
Lost all respect
2017-07-17 15:32
2017-07-17 15:36
OMG IM NOT GETTING 500fps constantly :(((((((((((((((( CANNOT HIT ANYTHING:( what a shiitty LAN with i5 xd
2017-07-17 15:36
ELEAGUE was better even though it was in America
2017-07-17 15:41
Its a fkn major, of course the players are right to complainning if something is bad. You have the time to work on it.
2017-07-17 15:49
#172
fnx | 
Portugal lovessd 
he is right & should kick coldzera from the tournament for flaming toxic !!
2017-07-17 15:51
They obviously never tried going to a 1.6 "pro" tournament, and if you managed to win the damn think you could be sure never to get paid. Its all coming down to the new "Millennials" generation of egocentric smugs.
2017-07-17 16:03
most retarded comment I've seen in years
2017-07-17 19:55
ok I put it on my Resume
2017-07-17 20:49
But you do understand, that today if everything is not 110% perfect, people will complain and cry like little bitches cuz their feelings got hurt. The older and more mature players understand that not everyting in the world will be perfect all the time. The VP players who where also commenting on the tweet, comes from a time where players had no union or was not organized in the same way and tournament host took advantage of that and the players had to play under bad conditions. You where not even sure you would get your prizemoney. the young players take it fro granted how good their condition is today and they need to appreciate it more and also give thanks to PGL for actully fixing alot of stuff.
2017-07-17 21:05
Problem is this is the most prestigious event in the scene, and they don't even have the basics down. If something can be done and should be done of course there's going to be complaining.
2017-07-17 21:12
yea its a big problem if the players doesn't consider it a "major" anymore
2017-07-17 21:16
what did the tweet say? he deleted it...
2017-07-17 16:30
#180
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Germany tschenneck 
+1
2017-07-17 16:31
#183
s1 | 
Armenia gr1nch 
where is screeeeensjot
2017-07-17 16:39
Send screen
2017-07-17 19:39
#187
cAmyy | 
Brazil ToRu 
print?
2017-07-17 19:41
hahahah insult pros for crying about shit tournament now playing games of stream because they cant even fix internet :D:D:
2017-07-17 19:42
i agree with him .
2017-07-17 19:44
#192
s1mple | 
Azerbaijan rip3x2 
hltv community is cancer
2017-07-17 19:45
#205
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Germany GeoRg___J 
xD
2017-07-17 21:36
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