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Is 100 fps an excuse to go 1-16?
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United Kingdom OBLewis 
Title This is what Shroud defenders are saying, 100 fps is 'unplayable'
2017-07-17 19:34
#1
Boaster | 
United Kingdom Macbeth 
but it probably drops constantly, imo that is unplayable
2017-07-17 19:35
#74
ISSAA | 
Lebanon c.dallas 
Well, "playable" in a desperate LEM MM game, at pro level, I support shroud, the whole event should be replayed. It is sure that most players didn't play their max peak because of the shit quality
2017-07-17 19:47
i7 doesn't help without GPU...
2017-07-17 20:00
It's csgo, if you pair a i7-7700k with a 750 you'd get much more than 100fps. And if they have 7700ks on each PC im sure they have something like a 1050 or 1060 to go along with it. If there's a problem with fps it's because PGL doesn't know how to configure csgo.
2017-07-17 20:04
#126
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United States Crunchayyyy 
Fucking PC's DIDNT EVEN HAVE NVIDIA
2017-07-17 20:06
why this fucking retard can't connect his brain with his mouse? PC WITHOUT NVIDIA
2017-07-17 20:14
not with 144 hz
2017-07-17 20:24
#167
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United States TrioN 
They had 240hz LMAO
2017-07-17 21:48
Having a 144hz monitor doesn't affect your fps at all. It's that when your fps dips below 144 or 240 for 240hz that you start noticing the shit performance.
2017-07-17 23:15
+1
2017-07-17 21:43
they need min 200fps constantly as they play on 244hz monitors
2017-07-17 20:05
You mean min 244....
2017-07-17 20:13
#184
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United Kingdom HarryBotter 
Why did he not just change it himself? Everybody knows how to change what your using for your graphics. Or he could have asked an admin
2017-07-18 14:00
#79
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Cyprus Dominiqa 
agreed. even u drop 50fps constantly the game is unplayable
2017-07-17 19:49
#2
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France G2_shox 
meeh.. 100 fps is really shitty. also if you are used to high Fps.
2017-07-17 19:35
#11
ScreaM | 
Turkey AKagNA 
+1
2017-07-17 19:36
#25
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France G2_shox 
but shroud also had alot of fights were he just missed. So I mean his score will not be much bigger if he had good FPS I guess
2017-07-17 19:38
#38
ScreaM | 
Turkey AKagNA 
bro kmon its shroud one of the best aimers in the world, he finished every match as f irst at the last tournament, now he gonna die to some shitty underdog team's players?
2017-07-17 19:39
#48
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France G2_shox 
Well after that reply from you I can see that you are a brainless 12 yo Kid which cant have a Conversation. Have a nice day
2017-07-17 19:40
#52
ScreaM | 
Turkey AKagNA 
ghahahahahah idiot, do you know what is it mean to take fps drops and playing with 100 fps on a 144 hz monitor?
2017-07-17 19:41
Aren't they using 240Hz monitors? But yes, having constant frame drops is not helping. You could see yesterday on Nuke that the computers were way subpar. You could easily see 20-30 fps ingame when watching the stream.
2017-07-17 19:55
thats bs, stream was smooth and irrelevant from what the players are getting also twitter.com/C9shroud/status/886315436677..
2017-07-17 19:59
#156
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United States burgerboy 
that was 2 days ago?
2017-07-17 20:32
It definetly wasn't smooth. The whole fucking chat on twitch was "LOL FPS" when you saw the stream having bad FPS. Don't speak shit.
2017-07-17 20:35
No, only asus has a 240hz monitor. They players are using benq zowie monitors which only support 144hz.
2017-07-17 20:04
#132
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Brazil marcelodkk 
Actually Zowie has 240hz monitors.
2017-07-17 20:12
#60
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Macau Lass3YAOW 
"brainless" doesn't really make any sense. Go back to your niggerish home.
2017-07-17 19:43
shitty underdog team's players................ tabsen is 10 time better then shroud, also big won against faze already and they' re much better then c9
2017-07-17 19:50
#103
AdreN | 
United States tsyuu 
wow c9 beat SK before their number 1??
2017-07-17 19:57
#128
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Canada RNJESUS^ 
no he isnt lmao, Tabsen is meant to be the star of the team while shorud is a support player. Nice comparison feels good man!
2017-07-17 20:08
yeah but why he is a support? because in his team there are better player skillwise that can do the star
2017-07-17 20:30
#170
ScreaM | 
Turkey AKagNA 
nah, he played as entry fragger at last tournament and all of us saw what he can do, it is probably his prefer.
2017-07-17 22:19
he is playing 144hz nonetheless or 240hz im not sure but it feels like shit when you get below 144 fps on 144hz
2017-07-17 19:38
#35
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France G2_shox 
true
2017-07-17 19:39
its the same as a mouse if youre used to a mouse and change its gonna be uncomfortable
2017-07-17 19:46
in a game where you need to be as consitent as possible you want the closest to youre setup at home as possible
2017-07-17 19:47
+1 this, if you are used to 300fps there is no way you gonna be playing the same with 100fps
2017-07-17 19:57
#150
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Turkey powergs 
if you are used to high Fps. This is the real problem.Ofc i can play on 150 fps cauz i am used to but he played probably over 400 fps also all other players play with i assume 300+ fps and u re playing 70-100 this is wrong
2017-07-17 20:26
#4
Brunei Jizzy 
playable in the same way that 30 fps is playable
2017-07-17 19:35
#18
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Spain JasonRacism 
Brazilians poor confirmed
2017-07-17 19:37
What about now?
2017-07-17 19:39
ué! lol
2017-07-17 19:52
#6
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United Arab Emirates difuzioN 
i hate na, but 100 fps is unplayable if its true, esp when ur used to 300+
2017-07-17 19:35
well yes and no. When I was forced to drop down to my old comptuer 300 fps to 60-120 fps my performance dropped quite a bit, but not 1-16. My average kd ratio went from 1.5-1.25 to 1.3-1.1
2017-07-17 19:37
well if u get 5-10 kills with 300 fps then 1 kill with 70-150 fps is fair
2017-07-17 19:37
xd
2017-07-17 19:38
#81
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Netherlands raiiNen^ 
Maybe, but take into consideration you play vs random people. Shroud plays vs pro's, so the effect should be much bigger for him.
2017-07-17 19:51
he's playing in a major with pros not against MM novas
2017-07-17 19:58
well now to be fair I'm level 7-9 faceit and global
2017-07-17 21:36
#8
jOELZ | 
Brazil papitos 
it's excuse, but i doubt he has 100fps
2017-07-17 19:36
#66
United States koth 
He does they didnt install the graphics card in his pc
2017-07-17 19:45
#153
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Turkey powergs 
If this was the real issue i mean not installing graphics card why the fuck he didnt say to admins ? I mean why even he tried ?
2017-07-17 20:27
At the tourney you get on the pc and play. He complained about the fps and im not sure when they figured it out that his pc didnt have the graphics card installed, but its a joke that it wasnt checked before a million dollar tournament.
2017-07-17 20:31
#9
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Spain JasonRacism 
Well he didn't even have nvidia on his pc ... Not defending him but that's ridiculous
2017-07-17 19:36
#141
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World ssong 
Didn't have nvidia cause they have AMD...
2017-07-17 20:19
#10
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Liechtenstein idiynahuyi 
unplayable with 144hz.
2017-07-17 19:36
#14
s1mple | 
United Kingdom Twinaye 
240*
2017-07-17 19:37
Prob had a lot of screen tearing
2017-07-17 19:37
#50
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Portugal LupiPTTV 
true
2017-07-17 19:41
i play with 85fps and iam global
2017-07-17 19:36
#127
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Spain efsI 
Cuz you have 60 hz you brainless
2017-07-17 20:07
#171
ScreaM | 
Turkey AKagNA 
ahahahaha he is fucking idiot what do you expect :D
2017-07-17 22:21
From what I've heard he's playing on fucking hd graphics
2017-07-17 19:36
its 2017 not 2007, if a MAJOR doesn't have the PC's play the game in HD, maybe they shouldn't be hosting a major
2017-07-17 19:40
#120
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United States AdAstrax 
0/8 b8 m8
2017-07-17 20:04
#15
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Norway SannyX 
it truely is because everytime big uses smokes and nades and shit his fps drops and it can even fell down to 50 fps in hectic situations.. i had a pc with 100 fps before i got a gaming pc and when i had 100 i couldnt stand close to a smoke..
2017-07-17 19:37
#16
chrisJ | 
Czech Republic Jurys 
why shroud didn´t copmlain earlier sounds like an excuse for a bad performance to me
2017-07-17 19:37
Exactly. He just wrote in in game chat "low fps" nothing more
2017-07-17 19:38
#29
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Germany ezpzlmnsqz 
Oh shit 1-17 HEY GUYS I HAVE NO NVIDIA HAHAHA NOT MY FAULT THAT I AM PLAYING BAD Shroud should just retire
2017-07-17 19:38
Off course it is impossible to play at pro level with taht kind of FPS
2017-07-17 19:37
if you re used to 300/400+ on 144hz monitor then its really garbage
2017-07-17 19:37
I play with 60 fps on dust2. and im moving to global right now from supreme. Thats why I should join gambit when Dosia will get tired. I'm from Almaty city as well
2017-07-17 19:37
#102
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United States DemiFiend 
The sex god never gets tired good sir
2017-07-17 19:56
haha. Can't argue with that. Maybe I will change with zeus when he will decide to become coach =)
2017-07-20 18:43
70 fps is pretty unplayable tbh
2017-07-17 19:38
#26
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Brazil kurtdeus 
Why do people insist on using the game's highest resolution when it does not give you any advantage?
2017-07-17 19:38
Why do people insist on using the game's lowest resolution when it does not give you any advantage?
2017-07-17 19:39
#83
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Netherlands raiiNen^ 
Why do you question someone's preferences? How dumb are you
2017-07-17 19:52
#93
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Brazil kurtdeus 
For the simple fact that not all the championships support 1920x1080 with configurations of texture at the top with 300 of stable fps, fallen already made a video talking about this
2017-07-17 19:54
So a $1m tournament cannot afford to spend an extra thousand bucks to buy i7's instead of i5's? Give me a break. You're just feeding the cheap fucking companies.
2017-07-17 19:58
#164
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Latvia friii 
There are no differences for csgo i7 or i5. Dont talk stupid things if you dont know.
2017-07-17 21:43
Because it's clearer? 16:9 gives you the full FOV and if you drop the resolution the clarity suffers.
2017-07-17 19:55
He doesn't you dingus His PC doesn't even have a graphics card xD
2017-07-17 19:56
Fuck no, I've gone 40-15 and 37-9 before and I get max 40 fps
2017-07-17 19:38
In high level major, agree
2017-07-17 19:40
and how does you playing against shitters online compare in anyway to a pro match on lan?
2017-07-17 19:41
#77
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United States Vaem 
This +1 "I have no problem with 30 fps in my faceit lv 4 matches :)" doesnt mean shit when you are at the top level of competitive play. If you guys didn't notice like 75% of duels usually are where each person is an inch from killing the other, and one or two duels can make the difference for the next 3-5 rounds. Shroud's fps could be a tiny factor to make him lose.
2017-07-17 19:48
because Im not a pro, called a handicap fam
2017-07-17 21:11
#88
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Denmark dondane 
Literally retarded.
2017-07-17 19:53
#31
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Canada AlexPerec 
LOOOOOL are u kidding me ? He play max 150 fps and this is fucking bad because he cant play vs guys who playing with 300+ fps
2017-07-17 19:38
#33
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Norway xeb__ 
ofc. but brazil players dont have money for anything over 40 fps.
2017-07-17 19:39
If it were an absolute constant 100 FPS, a pro should probably be able to get used to it within a few rounds. However, if the PC is such garbage that it only puts out 100 FPS on CSGO, then it's safe to assume the FPS are going up and down a lot. And there's only one thing worse than bad FPS: inconsistently bad FPS.
2017-07-17 19:39
#37
CeRq | 
Bulgaria v35 
100fps with 144hz hmmm thats a BIG shit
2017-07-17 19:39
Kids, to really use 144HZ you'll need double that in FPS! Must be 288 to be really smooth! This is not bullshit!
2017-07-17 19:39
#41
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Macau Lass3YAOW 
Had under 80fps for years and never had less than 25 kills global/faceit lvl 7-10/diamond. So no you cant use that as an excuse! My friend had around 60 and the same stats so...
2017-07-17 19:39
if you have less frames than the refresh rate of your monitor, in csgo that will create mouse input delay. Meaning he wont be able to aim properly.
2017-07-17 19:46
#75
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Finland Aeronx 
u are clearly braindead xd
2017-07-17 19:47
So now you go play on 25 fps with a 240Hz monitor and when you don't have 30-15 we can burn you. Because that's the point: Playing under the refresh rates of monitors give you input lag. So flicks you have been hitting for years because of consistency on computers cannot be hit because the distance you draw is not the same distance the computers draw.
2017-07-17 20:03
#42
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Lithuania TaigoN 
Very good excuse considering they play on 240hz monitors. This is unacceptable
2017-07-17 19:39
Is it unplayable for us "normal" people who play for fun /semi professional at most? No. Is it unplayable for a pro player who is used to 300 FPS? Probably, yes. Either way, there is no way we SHOULD have to DISCUSS this. We're talking about the most prestigious CS: GO Event. A Major. How can there be THIS MANY problems with the PCs (not talking about internet problems)
2017-07-17 19:39
#58
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United Kingdom OBLewis 
I know it's considerably lower than what pros play with. But 100 fps can't be THAT terrible. Just seems like he should have more than ONE frag, especially after playing 15 rounds as CT in the pit area, where terrorists get pushed towards you and you're like a turret.
2017-07-17 19:42
Well of course he can't blame the PC 100%, but let's look at it from another perspective: - did he only have low FPS or also FPS DROPS? Huge difference - if you know you can't play how you'd play with 300 FPS it's going to affect your psyche and you're more likely to hit easy shots as well. (not an excuse, just stating the obvious) Who doesn't get triggered by FPS /Ping problems. - For 1 Kill he DID have a pretty high ADR (higher than nothing and Legja), meaning he did a lot of damage. I'd say he dealt most of it by spraying which is lowering his FPS further. etc etc etc you get what i'm saying. Should he still be able to frag more? maybe, but for once I think we should cut him some slack in this game haha
2017-07-17 19:48
someone make a shroud wiff comp after this match
2017-07-17 19:40
#49
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Slovakia Zamzows 
If you play on a 240 HZ monitor like they are then you want 240+ FPS at all times or you´re in a disadvantage.
2017-07-17 19:41
Yes, it's unplayable. Imagine the constant drops.
2017-07-17 19:41
#54
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Denmark s0denone 
Do you think while C9 are on 100 fps that BiG are on 5000? No, it is the same conditions for everyone involved. C9 are just whining in classic NA fashion ^_^ Here is the ACTUAL "Gentleman's Agreement": pbs.twimg.com/media/DE82l3-XkAA37pO.jpg They agreed to USE the bug. Go choke on that, amigos! Stewie and n0thing already used the bug in this game, haha. Probably more that weren't picked up on stream. Get real.
2017-07-17 19:41
Shroud's pc didn't have the graphics drivers installed lol. It's not using the gpu. What an oversight by the organizers
2017-07-17 19:53
First off all - I dont care about shroud. Second : Just because there are ppl who are global in ashitty laptop with 80 fps doesnt mean that someone who play with 144 hz and 300+ fps can perform good in that conditions. It's impossible, the human brain doenst work like that.
2017-07-17 19:42
#57
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Poland Rajman 
On 240Hz yes it's unplayable
2017-07-17 19:42
It is like running the Tour de France with a monocycle. It is doable, but not competitive. The strange thing for me is : why this PC have'nt be used already, or even tested.
2017-07-17 19:42
#61
n0thing | 
Poland adiWOW 
Fifflaren just told C9 playing without graphic drivers whole match and didnt realized this, due tech pause.
2017-07-17 19:44
What... I thought it was only shroud's pc. WTF this major. I was just gonna put up the stream due to the ISP and not PGL but now this XD
2017-07-17 19:54
#62
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Germany ffaiden 
I can't even play with 160 rofl it has to be bigger than 250 to be playable
2017-07-17 19:44
i used to play in 150 fps, now i play in 300, when i try to play again in 150 is really fucked up. btw, i dont give a sh*t about shroud.
2017-07-17 19:44
yes . getting 1 kill below 300 fps is almost impossible .
2017-07-17 19:45
People in mm/faceit/esea cry and rage when their fps drops but when on major tournament some pro player has fps issues they say "excuses" LUL
2017-07-17 19:45
#67
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United States NA_CS_FAN 
yes /close
2017-07-17 19:46
#68
nitr0 | 
Canada Surzz 
thats a bad excuse lol
2017-07-17 19:46
playing with 50 fps on lowest over 2 years
2017-07-17 19:46
#72
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United States Tater_Hater 
I think it might not be a good excuse but each player should be on the same playing field. I realize that since this falls on to technology that there must be room for small fluctuations, but if everyone else in the server was playing with consistently better FPS (especially BIG) then there would be a clear disadvantage for Shroud. For the standard everyday CS player on ESEA or FaceIt playing against someone with better FPS then you might not be a big deal, but it might be a big deal for pros used to playing on a certain FPS.
2017-07-17 19:47
i agree that its unplayable. with a 144hz monitor the screen tears are horrible. but at the same time, maybe shroud should learn to adapt to a lower res? he plays 1920x1080... then again its 2017 not 2015 xD
2017-07-17 19:52
#85
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Brazil EnglishMASTER 
Sure it is, this is a professional world championship tournment, they should have.
2017-07-17 19:53
doesnt matter what his score is. its a 1 million dollar competition? everything should be same and perfect so they shouldnt even play any more games untill shit is fixed
2017-07-17 19:53
#89
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Serbia ZAG0R 
144hz monitors so yes that is unplayable
2017-07-17 19:53
You are dumb as shit, they are playing on 144hz and you ask if 100 FPS is enough? Are you mge?
2017-07-17 19:54
i'm down to make fun of shroud but 100 fps is complete trash lol, but is his fault to play on streamer res tho XD
2017-07-17 19:54
yes.
2017-07-17 19:55
#96
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Portugal Zedonp 
Never played with 100 fps and i'm still global , but if the other players dont have this problem neither should he, its about and even playing field and this is a major event. Never seen PGL fuck up this hard before
2017-07-17 19:55
#98
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United States cananigfrag 
he should suck it up and set the max fps to 60 if he wants no drops
2017-07-17 19:55
With a 144hz monitor? that'll work just fine m8
2017-07-17 19:57
#160
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United States cananigfrag 
What else can Shroud do if he decides to stay quiet and not tell anybody about it? He should've spoken up..
2017-07-17 20:39
#108
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Russia turbosaska 
no drops in this case but the game is unplayable anyway just try to set max fps to 60 after few rounds on normal fps i see the difference even on my 75Hz
2017-07-17 19:58
#99
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Russia turbosaska 
i am not fan of c9, and they use wh bug too, but the game should be replayed because of this bug and fps drops
2017-07-17 19:56
The fact of the matter is that his peak is 100 fps, and when you engage in gun fights your fps will drop hard so it's got to be extremely frustrating for Shroud in that regard.
2017-07-17 19:57
#107
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Palestine hevCS 
100 fps in unplayable on 244hz monitors
2017-07-17 19:57
Shroud has been shit even with much more fps So in this case, yes Also, as far as I know their PCs are the same, so 50/50
2017-07-17 19:58
#114
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Russia turbosaska 
> their PCs are the same he was playing on integrated videocard twitter.com/Stewie/status/88699955380691..
2017-07-17 19:59
Must have noticed Its just stupidity that he didnt do anything about This is a level o beta male beyond human
2017-07-18 00:00
#115
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Lithuania SiK_ 
that is an axcuse
2017-07-17 19:59
#116
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Germany Bows 
100 fps is unplayable stfu kid
2017-07-17 19:59
I play on 70 fps and it's actually playable, but also I'm gn4(but doesn't matter) Sroud is fucking pussy, 1 fluke performance at Cologne and he think that he is good
2017-07-17 20:03
Kappa
2017-07-17 20:04
Kappa
2017-07-17 20:04
#129
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Europe Pl4yed 
He should not have under 200 fps in a professional setting. 100 FPS isn't strictly unplayable but it does give you a significant disadvantage over players who have over 200 fps playing on lower resolutions. If shroud really had 100 fps average that is actually a BIG problem xd
2017-07-17 20:09
Yeah, and he probably had alot of drops which makes the game, against other pros, harder than Dark Souls III.
2017-07-17 20:13
its not like he has drops but he is constantly getting more mad couse of that he cant focus on game anymore. I mean he is playing a major with a potato pc. How depressing is that. I would fucking smash the pc in from of cameras and admins
2017-07-17 21:54
Yeah, low fps is almost as bad as bad internet. Very true.
2017-07-17 23:02
#133
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Poland jantomx 
List of excuses used by C9: -jet lag -bad pc -n0thing had a cold so he couldn't play properly -immortals didn't wear headsets -teamspeak comms are in English, other teams can easily understand our strats but we can't understand theirs (ESL used to stream and upload all teams' comms but C9 complained so they removed the feature) -train blocked smoke in overpass
2017-07-17 20:12
#137
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Armenia gr1nch 
everything can be reason on pro level, stop crying about ur shit.
2017-07-17 20:14
yes its a excuse everyone has 300fps and 240hz you have 100fps shitty lag
2017-07-17 20:15
I'l play on less than 100 and i'am LEM so i guess pro players should easily make 1-16 plus they all have same computers so this is shitty excuse
2017-07-17 20:16
Yes, 70 is unplayable.
2017-07-17 20:19
yes unplayable in his situation
2017-07-17 20:20
#143
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Korea kaiske 
impossible to win a fight but should get some in the back or through smoke, difficult with his role though
2017-07-17 20:22
#145
SmithZz | 
Turkey KidaR 
240hz dude and input lag..
2017-07-17 20:23
im supreme master and i play on 80 fps so there should be no excuse what so ever
2017-07-17 20:24
#148
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Brazil SUVAKO 
It is not. I play in a favela, with shitty internet, coconut computer, iPhone earphones and mic, tube monitor, with relatives yelling and my dog licking my feet and still top fragging global. Shrod should stop being a pussy, he's getting at least 10k per month to play cs... git gud
2017-07-17 20:25
#149
World xm_ 
with 144hz monitors 100fps is unplayable
2017-07-17 20:26
yes 100fps is unplayed for most people. especially if you have 120/144hz monitor.
2017-07-17 20:27
So i think it certainly hindered him from playing better, however most of his deaths were just stupid and getting caught off/playing in bad positions
2017-07-17 20:33
As if i7 made any difference comparing to i5 in CS:GO. CS:GO uses up to 4 threads, so even if you use a 16-core CPU, it will make no difference.
2017-07-17 21:38
#166
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Latvia friii 
Thank god someone is smart enough here.
2017-07-17 21:45
it is unplayable because they are most likely not playing on 60hz monitor Shroud might have to drop down to like 720 or something idk
2017-07-18 00:01
Reminding, that is in professional proportions, so they usually plays with +200 fps: so 100fps + 144hz = feeling a bit laggy/stuttering, that is = poor performance.
2017-07-18 12:26
Shroud complains about lag on his $10k pc at home. Guy is an overrated diva
2017-07-20 18:44
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