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Game of Thrones WTF??
United Kingdom calico27 
Can anyone explain to me in Season 7 Episode3, where the 80,000 strong Tyrell army went? How the fuck does Jaime and his army just waltz into high garden with no resistance on the field ???
2017-08-02 23:10
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for the lulz
2017-08-02 23:14
Like whaaaaat??
2017-08-02 23:15
Because Jaime is a god
2017-08-02 23:16
#6
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Poland Jaruzel
Jaime killed them all ofc.
2017-08-02 23:17
Jamie's army is like 10,000 strong. So how does this happen? He like lost no men, and just walked down the rose road with no trouble...
2017-08-02 23:19
every episode of this season was contradictory lmao
2017-08-02 23:28
They have rushed so many parts to this season already :/ no one has an answer, it's poor script and everything else.. Soooo much happened last episode and it sounds great but I was left completely underwhelmed.
2017-08-02 23:24
#98
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Russia razorVJ
Less episodes they said. More action they said. The Night King will ride one of Deni's dragons and ruin the wall with it. That's what we all are waiting for.
2017-08-03 12:49
#150
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Netherlands Bryantjes
maybe just maybe they saved this battle so they have more money to spend on the real battles? I have read all the spoilers for this season and trust me this battle was nothing compared to whats to come.
2017-08-03 14:16
Euron is fast as fuck he's not travelling with ships he's using a jet wtf
2017-08-02 23:27
#16
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France mbl4
He stole Varys transatlantica pass
2017-08-02 23:29
" 80,000 strong Tyrell army went?" ??? where you get that number from?? ???
2017-08-02 23:30
Read 'the reach army strength' in the ASOIAF wiki. Says the reach 'can muster 80000 men' it is also said 'house high tower can muster around 10000 men'
2017-08-03 11:04
But bro you know that Tarlys are with Lannisters and the books aint over yet? Randyll Tarly should've took like 40000 men idk
2017-08-03 11:11
Yes tarlys are with them... but I can name many houses loyal to tyrell who would field an army. .. such as hightower, florent, redwyne (as the lady of the reach was redwyne ) which is still a lot of men
2017-08-03 11:14
Even the shield island houses would still help the tyrell over lannister
2017-08-03 11:16
I thought house florent was done anyway But they were keeping their man in their castles. They didn't know Lannisters going to attack Tyrells.
2017-08-03 11:23
But they would raise an army for daenerys. After scouts saw a lannister army matching on high garden they could have easily diverted there army.
2017-08-03 12:20
Exactly but remember Daenerys' plans Attack Casterly Rock and send others to Dorne and Highgarden They didnt prepared themselves for this i am sorry :/
2017-08-03 12:26
To get to kings landing they would take the rose road. This is also the road Jaime took from Kings landing to high garden. They would have met each other on the rose road. I am sorry
2017-08-03 12:38
Tbh all i can say is jaime will get attacked when he is returning to kings landing. Prepare yourself :)
2017-08-03 12:46
Thanks captain obvious
2017-08-03 12:53
np dawg thanks for the sarcastic comment also xd
2017-08-03 12:54
Because that army was also composed of men from other houses who are supposed to be submitted to the Tyrells (Like the house Tarly) and thoses houses decided to fight for Cersei.
2017-08-02 23:35
Yes but they are still loyal houses to house tyrell. Such as house high tower from old town who would never fight for lannisters. They can raise a significant levy as well.
2017-08-03 11:06
House redwyne and florent would all help tyrell and not follow they fuckin tarly idiot
2017-08-03 11:17
xdddd lannister forces is not 10 000 u dumb fuck they are more than 60 000 and more all the others in kings landing. And u add the soldiers from the Tarly, it can be a pretty fine number moroever its the best army by far in the 7 kingdoms delusional danaerys fangay lul
2017-08-02 23:36
#29
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Slovenia Pitr_d_K
does not matter at all. Cercei is dead. That was leaked a day or two ago.
2017-08-02 23:38
Cersei* Is not dead she is just pregnant
2017-08-03 11:12
bullshit
2017-08-02 23:40
60.000? Okay.. but WHERE'S THE TYRELL ARMY??? THEY CAN STILL FIGHT EACH OTHER WITH NEAR EVEN NUMBERS. they just walked it with no resistance
2017-08-03 11:07
Fuckin frenchies
2017-08-03 11:07
didn't Deni send them to anothor place? and that left old nun ladie vonorable??
2017-08-03 14:56
Perhaps it is me, but this season rush too fast. Creating thing like this, or Euron/Jon teleporting around the seas, etc...
2017-08-02 23:39
first 2 episodes were slow as fuck considering theres going to be only 7 episodes this season they changed gears in ep. 3, and it was too fast indeed, the story telling should be more consistent imo and you can see they cut budget for season ending battles
2017-08-02 23:43
these inc battles gonna be 10/10
2017-08-02 23:50
#46
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African Union ArisA
It never showed Euron, could easily split up the fleet.
2017-08-03 00:14
Possible, exept it seems to have only one uber ship in his fleet, present in both battle.
2017-08-03 11:14
+1 only 7 episode's too. Super rushed
2017-08-03 11:08
It does not really matter tho. The only house that will make it after the WW invasion is the Stark house
2017-08-02 23:48
#36
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Denmark Notallama
There should have just simply been an episode showcasing that battle, it just seemed rushed and ridiculous. But Miguel Sapochnik is not directing anything in this season sadly
2017-08-02 23:46
It is incredibly hard to be creating brilliant plot twists all the time and the show right now is basically consisting of rushed mess but at least is more fun to watch than reading the books, which in itself are also totally pointless in some aspects like the undead Catelyn and Euron's ridiculously overpowered magic dragon horn that stops dragons, stuff that doesn't lead anywhere or stuff that isn't necessarily bad but nothing over the top. The show lost a lot of its brilliant writing after it entirely changed ways with the books because making up stuff is very hard and requires a lot of intelligence and creativity. The only thing i can think of is that the Tyrells respected Randyll more so they could've changed sides, they thought the Lannisters could be defending Casterly Rock and then they got outplayed by Jaime, so they got a surprise assault and the Tyrells as a house was essentially finished because of Cersei exploding that Sept and that ending their lineage, so that could be considered as a reason for soldiers to change sides idk.
2017-08-02 23:48
I agree. But. I still feel though they not every house would have swapped to Cersei though.. such as house hightower who are tyrell loyalists and hate lannisters.
2017-08-03 11:10
Tarley is the biggest Tyrell loyalist in the books, but this is the show and all the lannisters took was highgarden which really isnt that hard with that many men and the tyrell army wasnt there and ready, yes sloppy writing and such but they werent there it just was the castle with some extra men that was close by and could react to defend it(most likely).
2017-08-03 14:43
#44
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Brazil lawzera
that was lame af Highgarden was shit too
2017-08-03 00:12
#45
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Romania rockNoob
Tyrell army was defeated by low budget and screen time
2017-08-03 00:12
#47
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Turkey powergs
this They fuck both Tyrells and Martels cauz of budget and time.
2017-08-03 00:15
+1
2017-08-03 11:10
Lannisters OP.. plz nerf Show biased.. lannister fan boys
2017-08-03 11:11
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France Deadfish
because the fat man wanted it that way. he wanted to make two side equal for more dramatic.
2017-08-03 11:13
+1 there is no realistic explanation for anything in this shit show cuz the fat weirdo has no talent. things just happen just to progress the plot. maybe it was "magic" or whatever deus ex machina device he invents. fat weirdo man is a useless hack.
2017-08-03 11:17
fat weirdo? If you talk about the author dude you might wanna read the books first before blaming him for plotholes of the show that arent present in the book.
2017-08-03 13:51
+1
2017-08-03 11:16
#75
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India Reaper1
Budget issues are real. No ghost, only 2mins of Nymeria, Tyrells got gold but no army.. whaaaats next
2017-08-03 11:26
All the budget was saved for when Jon and the brotherhood without banners travel to East Watch and that big wight walker battle. Sadly I don't think it'll happen until the last two episodes also dragons and I imagine the sea battle in episode 2 also was pretty expensive as it was mostly CG.
2017-08-03 11:44
damn wight walkers xD
2017-08-03 12:48
#164
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India Reaper1
yeah they're spending it all on the dragons and undead vyserion
2017-08-03 16:50
Jaime: "There are always lessons in failures" Tyrell lady: "Yes, you must be very wise by now" She fuckin got him good before death lmaoooo
2017-08-03 11:36
*insert filthy frank you just got roasted clip here*
2017-08-03 12:47
that was pure bullshit to be honest but hookers ?
2017-08-03 11:49
Bump
2017-08-03 12:06
I don't know. After each episode I'm like "but why 842862486?" like 5 times.
2017-08-03 12:47
They had a british accent, meaning they probably had a tea time break. Lannisters said they will honor it, but since red wedding tyrells' should of known better, not to trust them. So, as Tyrell army was enjoing their tea with crumble, Lannisters backstabbed them.
2017-08-03 12:51
Dont wanna scroll down comments so maybe you had your answer aldready but... Tyrells are just one family in Reach The army of 80,000 strong (in books never mentioned in show) is REACH army not Tyrell and strongest part of that army are the Tarlys who started supporting Lannisters. Also worth noting is that the Lannister soldiers are far superior to any other soldiers except the unsullied in terms of skill at the battlefield. 8,000 unsullied = 15,000 lannister soldiers = 25,000 normal soldiers (freys etc) = 40,000 wildlings
2017-08-03 13:02
not really though? they had an experienced well trained force obviously and were better equipped/supplied than the other armies but they weren't elite soldiers at all. at best they were slightly better than everyone else.
2017-08-03 13:06
Tyrells + their bannermen and their soldiers yes Tyrells without allies not so much.
2017-08-03 13:07
what reply was this to?
2017-08-03 13:10
What makes you say they werent elite soldiers at all and at best slightly better than everyone else despite everything pointing otherwise?
2017-08-03 13:14
they were under the command of the best military generals available and were better supplied and funded than any other army. of course they were good soldiers but they weren't elite. they were normal soldiers and didn't have any more special training than any other individual soldier. they aren't specifically chosen or trained from birth they're fucking volunteers just like any other army. there's plenty of times were the Lannister armies get completely rekt or suffer heavy losses to other armies or individuals. the Lannisters are superior in military power compared to everyone else because of many more important and significant reasons such as having the most superior military generals in Westoros, more gold, more men, more knights etc.
2017-08-03 13:39
So you are nitpicking that their skill in "hand to hand combat techniques" isnt elite allthought their armors and weapons make them elite compared to other soldiers? Not sure what we are even talking about here..
2017-08-03 13:41
what would make them "elite" is all the factors i listed above and more which combines into them becoming a well led and trained force. the Lannisters are average soldiers (volunteers, peasants etc) who just serve under good generals, although yeah, many of them would be skilled and experienced swordsman/soldiers and knights, and they probably have more of them than any other army. so, yeah, on average the Lannister throughout their whole army do have higher individual skill than any other army in westoros, but it's not like 1 Lannister = 5 Northmen or some shit
2017-08-03 13:58
Yes tarly has alot of men.. but you forget the tyrell loyalist.. such as hightower (would never side with lannister ) .. house Ashford. House redwyne? These Lords together have an easy levy on 20k-30k.. the tyrells have a levy of prob 10k.. so around 40k men which were absent. Where the fuck were they
2017-08-03 13:21
I mean.... In the same episode we saw unsullied take casterly rock and Tyrion said they have 10,000 soldiers there... Thats not the entire Lannister army Why would a place like highgarden have 40k men in any circumstance ? Also its different to support Tyrells when Margary is to marry the King than be in open rebelion against the Crown when your most valuable allies the Tarlys change sides.
2017-08-03 13:27
Unsullied attacked them from behind.. surprise. It's not as if olenna saw the army as it advanced. Also 40k men in the field. If scouts saw them and relays the info they could fight them
2017-08-03 14:09
So because Olenna saw them approaching he should have texted his bannermen or the few if any that were left, to sprint past the lannister forces to protect the highgarden :D?
2017-08-03 14:36
Brandon stark hasn't contributed ANYTHING until now. So much drama around him but he is totally useless
2017-08-03 12:57
#111
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Sweden s!d_xaxa
Atleast he has seen ramsay raping sansa.
2017-08-03 13:10
Randyll Tarly (Sam's dad) carries a lot of influence in The Reach (Highgardens territory) and the Tarly's are also the one of the best military families in all of Westeros. When Jaime convinced Randyll to turn against the Tyrells and join the Lannisters, it was a huge blow to Highgarden. I'm sure other strong houses in The Reach choose to follow Randyll's lead. Only true Tyrell loyalists were left I suspect, which probably was still a large number of men but no match for the Lannisters who were supported by the Tarly's (Randyll was briefly shown riding with Jaime before the battle).
2017-08-03 13:07
Its not just other houses, if this were the books and Tarly switched sides ALL of their allies would follow him.. Also this war has been going for years and soldiers have died
2017-08-03 13:08
Okay.. that's great and all.. I understand yes, they lost a large portion of men.. but in season 5 (idk when it was) but mace and his army were in King's landing and they have gone home.. The question was.. why was there no RESISTANCE.. as I said Jaime just walked to high garden down the rose road (the road that goes past alot of keeps such as Ashford ) and they encoutered no tyrell resistance until they were inside fucking high garden itself.
2017-08-03 13:11
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Sweden s!d_xaxa
one more thing is it actually requires less number of people to hold or defend a castle against even 10 times more bigger army.
2017-08-03 13:09
Exactly.. and it looks as if Jaime army took no losses on the way there as tyrell army was not paid for by HBO.. so Jaime just walked in and somehow destroyed them.. I mean at least show us some lannister casualties. But all I see is thousands of dead tyrell
2017-08-03 13:13
Maybe you see what you want to see ? I certainly didnt see thousonds of soldiers dead from any army
2017-08-03 13:16
The entire garrison died.. a garrison of a major keep (capital of the reach) would have a garrison of 1000 plus
2017-08-03 13:23
Even if there were 20,000 plus what possible chance would they have had if Lannisters+Tarlys ambushed them ? (the 1000 you mentioned is probably accurate)
2017-08-03 13:31
If they told us about the ambush.. fair play.. If maybe Jaime said something 'we ambushed you' then yeah that explains where they army went and why Jaime could walk in there without a care in the world
2017-08-03 13:32
Thats the thing... Everything doesnt need to be spelt out loud. Fans will pick a narrative that makes sense and in this case very little imagination is needed. Haters will pick a narrative that gives them something to hate on. All of us have the choice
2017-08-03 13:36
Would be nice if we wete told that's all.. Without us being told it raises the question
2017-08-03 13:45
Would be nice if we wete told that's all.. Without us being told it raises the question
2017-08-03 13:45
I see no reason why they wouldnt in the upcoming episodes... Countless and countless of times after episodes have aired the book snobs have hated it because in their mind somethings been missing. For example Robbs head sewed on the direwolf, the hatestorm was insane how they ruined the entire red wedding for not adding that and it was in the next episode.. You would think people have learned by now its 7th season
2017-08-03 13:50
#116
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Sweden s!d_xaxa
I think books will be much better than this tv show. I just wish he could finish them faster.
2017-08-03 13:16
I think there would be too many fight scenes if they would have a long fight scene in High Garden. The biggest fights is yet to come. That's what you want to be hyped for. Highgarden was never known for having a great army so it should have been pretty easy for Jaime's army anyways.
2017-08-03 13:25
Still don't answer the question where there army was ? They just walked into high garden with no resistance what so ever
2017-08-03 13:26
GoT is just fanfic at this point
2017-08-03 13:26
True. Show went to shit after they passed the books, Benioff & Weiss are awful writers.
2017-08-03 13:31
Yeah. Imo the things they changed compared to the books while they were still in that part of the story were mostly poor aswell. But that stannis arc + jon snow stabbed for no reason and revived like some shit circus act... feelsbadman
2017-08-03 14:17
Also, they handled Dorne awfully.
2017-08-03 15:29
I would take well received fanfiction over sinking ships that were the last 2 books any day. Its more likely the upcoming book will be worse too than the opposite.
2017-08-03 13:38
The thing is that the show is not even remotely well written. Logical inconsistency, pointless scenes, pointless deaths, shit pacing and awful character develepment have plagued the show from the start. At this point the redeemening qualities it had at the start arent even there
2017-08-03 14:14
Right. The ever so vocal 0.1%
2017-08-03 14:34
Most ppl who are hyped about GoT are casual plebs who think breaking bad is the pinnacle of storytelling. Popular =/= good
2017-08-03 15:45
You dont make any sense
2017-08-03 16:25
#129
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Sweden Div-\
They had to even the odds between cersei and daenerys so there you go. Also she has three dragons and cersei has euron that literally jumps from one spot to another in the map.
2017-08-03 13:36
#132
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Europe smasherrr
Randyll Tarly was a huge factor in Tyrell army, when he changed his side Tyrells lost like half of their army. But still, it shouldn't have been that easier tho
2017-08-03 13:38
Yes. Its also quite amusing how people pretend there is absolutely no way in hell those other families in that scene werent let say house Ashford and House Redwyne because they didnt spell it out loud....
2017-08-03 13:43
yes they fucked up season 7 big time they have not enough money anymore to make propper episodes. every second character teleports from one place to another without any story in between ...
2017-08-03 13:43
Fucked up? Have you seen the ratings ?
2017-08-03 13:51
avengers 1 had great ratings, but it's still a shit movie
2017-08-03 14:35
Thats your opinion (in which I agree I hate every comic movie not made by Nolan) but He said fucked up not that its shit.
2017-08-03 14:40
ppl like you need to get in their heads that months can pass between scenes. Just like in reallife not every day is filled with battles, political agreements and meetings
2017-08-03 13:55
wtf admins? why you deleted my comment? was there anything In conflict with rules? all this thread is spoiler so i don't understand
2017-08-03 13:56
Probably the comment where you tried to spoil the later part of the season based on the leaks. If you dont understand how thats different than discussing past episodes then shame on you.
2017-08-03 14:44
The show writers aren't as good as George RR Martin, that's it basically. Plus the show is catering for more casual fans who don't really give any shit about continuity and only care about "hell yeah Khaleesi you go girl and your dragons". I still like the show but at this point you've got to abandon all reason and just enjoy the ride.
2017-08-03 14:28
^^ Season 1-4, writing together with george and coping most from books 10/10 all of it, even though the budget was lower than now. Season 5-6, trying to make use of some of georges writing without him kinda messing up, removing a lot of stuff, still worked out fine cuz of the bigger budget which gave us hardhome and battle of le bastards etc. Season 7-8, Now there is zero correlation to the books and its all on the show writers to continue the story with now a MASSIVE budget, but this is hollywood doods, which we can clearly see with some of the shit they doing, especially euron(way he talk etc), but these seasons will still be better than S5-6 I think cuz as I said is all on them now, they can do and make whatever they want and they should be able to create some noice stuff these last episodes with that massive budget thanks to all the amazing characters they have at their disposal. But it will be HOLLYWOOD stuff that we can enjoy now not old style GOT, but hollywood GOT lul.
2017-08-03 14:49
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