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Spain JasonRacism 
Most likely Mixwell leaving for Mouz so ... -Hazed +FNS -Mixwell +Allu Optic also trying to get Jks and or Nifty but I don't think they would leave Renegades since they have been performing better than Optic lately and are on a upwards direction Also Optic interested in Luminosity YeL but he's probably a last option
2017-08-04 04:40
#1
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New Zealand fix_hltv_ffs 
can yel even speak english
2017-08-04 04:41
#2
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Spain JasonRacism 
Yeah, Not as good as FalleN but for sure one of the better English speaking Brazilians
2017-08-04 04:43
#3
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United States kdpetr0 
nah +lowel instead of allu they'll put tarik on main awp, probably wont work out but they will
2017-08-04 04:44
#6
North America Oakz 
u drunk?
2017-08-04 04:46
#7
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United States kdpetr0 
no it will happen, tarik was secondary so it wouldnt be too crazy
2017-08-04 04:46
#10
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Spain JasonRacism 
I would like that but I doubt it
2017-08-04 05:21
#23
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United States kdpetr0 
see Tarik awping in pugs? he is practicing for that role swap and he knows it lol
2017-08-04 06:05
#36
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Spain JasonRacism 
Everybody AWPs in pugs doesn't mean anything
2017-08-04 07:00
#39
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United States TheElegantMan 
to be fair, Tarik has been taking up the awp in matches too, over mixwell sometimes. I think they were in a transition for him taking the awp from mixwell before the break even if mixwell had stayed.
2017-08-04 07:12
mixwell has said that he would like to stop full awping so even if he stays they might swap anyway
2017-08-04 09:32
#69
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Germany al1na 
imapet said they would most likely put NAF as main awp
2017-08-04 09:40
Where did he say that?
2017-08-04 16:08
#144
NAF | 
Germany al1na 
in the interview with thorin, not that long ago he stated that if mixwell doesnt awp again they might give it to naf instead
2017-08-04 18:12
NAF would be a good choice for sure. Either NAF or Tarik honestly would be good, maybe even have both of them share the role as a hybrid, a bit like what stanislaw did with them and mixwell.
2017-08-05 00:28
#25
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Canada L3Ad3R 
Naf is a better awper than tarik
2017-08-04 06:28
That peanutbrain is already igling, do you think he can handle main awp role too?
2017-08-04 08:49
#94
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Spain JasonRacism 
+1
2017-08-04 12:12
#95
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Poland snooze14 
INB4 Let's talk about kRYSTAL
2017-08-04 12:19
#155
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Italy Trova 
+1
2017-08-05 02:48
#143
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United States kdpetr0 
that's why FNS is being added dumbass
2017-08-04 17:33
#154
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Spain JasonRacism 
+1 They could grab Koosta with FNS as a package deal as well
2017-08-05 02:44
nah +lowel instead of allu they'll put tarik on main awp, probably wont work out but they will I dont see + fns in your comment dumbass
2017-08-05 04:25
#158
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United States kdpetr0 
when I say +lowel instead of allu, that means it isnt a -mixwell +allu It was still implying that the -hazed +fns would still happen
2017-08-05 04:27
#160
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Spain JasonRacism 
Tarik or Naf could, They would still get out awped all the time against eu and against players like Ska Nifty Koosta Shahzam and Jdm still in NA
2017-08-05 05:49
#4
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South Africa Hasslegg 
How has renegades been performing over OpTic?
2017-08-04 04:44
#71
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Spain JasonRacism 
Asia Minor, Major Qualifers, Qualifying for Malmo instead of getting invited just because Optic is a bigger brand
2017-08-04 10:45
lol?? u kidding right? asia minor is shitshow tier1500 game,always tyloo and rng 1-2 place there,also rng isnt trying na minor cauz they know they cant qualify. also major qual both team sucked,and one last thing is optic got invite cauz they still have credits from winning el s2 and they are part of wesa. If u dont know about something go research before speaking.
2017-08-04 11:18
#93
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Spain JasonRacism 
Tier 1500? A team that beat North on LAN (Chiefs) failed to make the Minor so nt Renegades can't play the NA Minor, They have 3 Australians if they wanted to play the NA Minor they would have to replace one of there Australian players for an NA player and that won't happen, Do some research buddy, Optic obviously sucked more than Renegades since Renegades beat them, Results without Stanislaw are irrelevant as I said since we are comparing recent results, You're retarded, Learn to use a keyboard before telling someone to "do research"
2017-08-04 12:11
delusional mixwell fan 0/8
2017-08-04 14:04
#161
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Spain JasonRacism 
You just got rekt
2017-08-05 05:50
haha 0/8
2017-08-05 08:50
#113
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Poland flikx 
Chiefs wouldnt make it anyway, since one of their players was vac-banned
2017-08-04 15:33
#119
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Spain JasonRacism 
They had a stand in called Emagine and he actually carried the team in the Asia qualifiers so no blame to him he was very good!
2017-08-04 15:44
#120
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Poland flikx 
Oh, ok then, didnt know that
2017-08-04 15:46
what about k00sta
2017-08-04 04:45
#11
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Spain JasonRacism 
Maybe, Nothing has been said about him joining though
2017-08-04 05:21
he fucks up WAY too much
2017-08-04 06:18
#27
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Spain JasonRacism 
He is top 5 NA AWP but you're right he has loads of brain farts
2017-08-04 06:41
higher highs and lower lows !
2017-08-04 06:58
#37
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Spain JasonRacism 
I could maybe see him going to Optic with FNS but not without tbh
2017-08-04 07:08
koosta best awper in NA right after coldzera
2017-08-04 07:17
#42
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United States kicksquad 
u high?
2017-08-04 07:24
yes 6"8'
2017-08-04 07:25
#44
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United States kicksquad 
ok sure you are
2017-08-04 07:26
#8
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United States MrFaZe 
Optic wouldn't want jks because they don't understand Australian
2017-08-04 04:48
#9
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Sweden Staffan1 
hahhaa +1 xD
2017-08-04 04:49
#22
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New Zealand fix_hltv_ffs 
there was a clip where rickeh looked in the wrong spot due to the callout being different in aus
2017-08-04 06:04
#28
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Spain JasonRacism 
Renegades has to veto infnerno every time because Nifty and Nexa don't understand diggity ;)
2017-08-04 06:42
#12
nitr0 | 
Canada Surs 
idk about fns, but im sure they'll pick up allu
2017-08-04 05:22
#15
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Spain JasonRacism 
FNS is likely, They need a IGL
2017-08-04 05:27
#16
nitr0 | 
Canada Surs 
they do need an IGL, but i think they like how tarik calls, so it might just be -mixwell +allu honestly.
2017-08-04 05:33
#29
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Spain JasonRacism 
Tarik has only called for 1 event, Why in the world would they keep Hazed lol
2017-08-04 06:43
#79
nitr0 | 
Canada Surs 
idk, maybe they like hazed :D
2017-08-04 10:59
#153
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Spain JasonRacism 
Seeing his results I wouldn't, I'm sure he is a good guy in person but he needs to hit the dm's
2017-08-05 02:43
#67
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Turkey HypnoSia 
tarik new igl for optic they not need igl
2017-08-04 09:24
#72
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Spain JasonRacism 
Cringe
2017-08-04 10:46
expected comments from fan of mixwell kys pls
2017-08-04 11:19
#92
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Spain JasonRacism 
Peanut brain as IGL is short term
2017-08-04 12:07
peanut>mixwell look at their careers.dont be delusional
2017-08-04 14:05
#104
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Spain JasonRacism 
Never said Tarik was a bad player just said he wouldn't be a IGL, Mixwell comes from Spain and we barely have a scene so that's why he is "new" for most of you, He has always been dominating cs for years he only just got noticed by everyone else when he joined Optic
2017-08-04 15:24
dominating what?dominatin esea pugs?
2017-08-04 15:33
#123
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Spain JasonRacism 
MSL
2017-08-04 15:49
#108
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Finland Dolmi0 
I doubt allu would move to US because he has wife and if i am not wrong he has or atleast will have kids so i think he will stay in Finland/EU teams
2017-08-04 15:27
#124
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Spain JasonRacism 
He was prepared to when Liquid was looking for a player, Just after he got kicked from NiP he was playing with Liquid in some online games but he was playing with 150+ ping
2017-08-04 15:51
#132
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Finland Slyp3 
He didnt want to join for Liquid for reasons my countrymen said upper. Liquid proceeded and signed S1mple.
2017-08-04 16:08
#133
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Spain JasonRacism 
He considered it since he played a few games with them, If he is desperate he could play with an NA team
2017-08-04 16:22
#13
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Turkey has1 
-mixwell ? bullshit
2017-08-04 05:24
#14
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Spain JasonRacism 
Mixwell is joining Mouz
2017-08-04 05:26
#70
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Other Arubian 
Why lmao
2017-08-04 09:48
he is not joining anywhere
2017-08-04 11:20
#107
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Spain JasonRacism 
2017-08-04 15:25
source:dekay ahahahah
2017-08-04 15:33
-allu +wardell or nifty.
2017-08-04 05:41
#30
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Spain JasonRacism 
Nifty and Renegades are playing better than Optic right now so it'd be more risky than you think for Nifty to leave
2017-08-04 06:44
That statement is so wrong. I'm pretty sure that OpTics ESL run is better than Renegades Dreamhack run.
2017-08-04 09:18
#73
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Spain JasonRacism 
It's cute that you think I'm comparing to just 1 event lmfao
2017-08-04 10:47
With all the change happening around OpTic you can't really do it in any other way ;) but clearly you don't understand shit like that.
2017-08-04 11:04
#81
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Spain JasonRacism 
Renegades changed 2 players 3 months ago? Both teams adapting to new players and Renegades have been better
2017-08-04 11:12
What are you talking about? :D look at the past events over the last 3 months.
2017-08-04 11:46
#91
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Spain JasonRacism 
Nifty and Nexa are new members ... What am I talking about? LOL
2017-08-04 12:07
Useless
2017-08-04 13:44
#105
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Spain JasonRacism 
You're retarded LUL
2017-08-04 15:24
Dude you write "Renegades have been better" and clearly can't see where my comment fits in.... and then you call me retarded... HF.
2017-08-04 15:34
#118
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Spain JasonRacism 
Nope you just edited, Sneaky but NT
2017-08-04 15:42
Once Auti, Stewie2K and Skadoodle sign with EG, there will be some players like shroud left to join Optic. ;)
2017-08-04 05:46
#19
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United States NA_CS_FAN 
wat
2017-08-04 05:48
#26
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Canada L3Ad3R 
yeah cause shroud will fix optic right? Not like he is the problem or anything
2017-08-04 06:30
#31
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Spain JasonRacism 
Shroud wouldn't fix Optic but I could see Shroud joining a Misfits type team and going insane under SeanGares
2017-08-04 06:46
#41
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World lalt 
That would be great news for NA CS, I guess. Isn't EG legit eSports org, unlike C9?
2017-08-04 07:23
#20
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United States Benjii92 
if CLG is breaking up then Optic should just take FNS and either koosta or rickeh -mixwell -hazed +FNS +koosta/rickeh
2017-08-04 05:54
#33
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Spain JasonRacism 
Example say Koosta and FNS to Optic Rickeh to NRG NahtE to Ex-IBP Cuter can make a lineup with Hazed, Ptr (if no bad blood) Ryx and maybe buyout Android? Idk lol
2017-08-04 06:51
this shouffle thing got me fucked up, so many teams and so many players. Optic Cloud9 NRG Rogue new iBP but i dont see CLG making any changes, they are kinda fine at the moment
2017-08-04 17:28
#152
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Spain JasonRacism 
They already lost imapet to Optic, FNS rumoured to go to Optic DaZeD said he'd play with NahtE Rickeh perfect fit for NRG since Ptr left Koosta perfect fit for Optic if Mixwell leaves Cutler sucks and can go suck with Hazed
2017-08-05 02:42
Confirmed Mousesports signed Sunny and Mixwell. Will be joining the team in a couple days.
2017-08-04 06:46
#34
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Spain JasonRacism 
Rip Styko
2017-08-04 06:51
#110
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Finland Dolmi0 
ITS NOT FUCKING CONFIRMED BEFORE MOUSESPORTS ANNOUNCE IT. its fucking rumors if haci or degay say it....
2017-08-04 15:28
-1 QQ +1 BOTH CONFIRMED
2017-08-04 21:03
spanish boy - ed mixvell lul
2017-08-04 07:09
#45
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Zdrica 
why would they kick lowel for mixwell when lowel is way better with riffles than mixwell?
2017-08-04 07:29
#46
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Spain JasonRacism 
They are kicking both LoWel and Denis for SuNny and Mixwell Mixwell is probably better or just as good rifle as LoWel and can also secondary AWP when needed
2017-08-04 07:31
#48
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Zdrica 
no he is not trust me..mixwell is awful with riffles its enough to see today's aim trial of mixwell lul.. and why would they need 2nd awp when they have oskar and chris? i think u r hoping for that just cause u r spanish like mixwell :)
2017-08-04 07:33
#52
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Spain JasonRacism 
slingshotesports.com/2017/08/03/mousespo.. Starting to think you're dumb
2017-08-04 07:39
#53
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Zdrica 
doesnt have to 100% true :) if its true why not relase both denis and lowel together? :)))
2017-08-04 07:45
#57
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Spain JasonRacism 
Maybe because some team decided to buyout LoWel's contract already?
2017-08-04 07:54
Mark my words : Allu isnt joining optic
2017-08-04 07:31
#51
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Spain JasonRacism 
Rip Allu then, He don't find a better team
2017-08-04 07:38
Even penta has brighter future than optic
2017-08-04 07:49
#55
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Spain JasonRacism 
Without SuNny? Eh ... Don't think so HS will probably leave soon enough for a better team anyway
2017-08-04 07:52
Where would hs go? Doesnt require a lot to have brighter future than a team with tarik as igl
2017-08-04 07:54
#58
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Spain JasonRacism 
Allu probably to attempt making all Finnish team again so we can laugh at it, HS future is probably on a NA team
2017-08-04 07:56
"HS future is probably on a NA team" Im pretty sure he still wants to play in majors.
2017-08-04 08:46
#74
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Spain JasonRacism 
He can? Cloud9 made it, Liquid literally lost in overtime not to make it, If Renegades counts as NA then I have them making the next major HS would dominate in Liquid if changes are needed
2017-08-04 10:49
xD he would dominate in esl pro league na maybe
2017-08-04 11:46
there was one NA team in this major..... ONE O-N-E 1 even vega made it. liquid is just overrated, optic is a shell of its former self, Renegades??? top kek if HS has any brain he'll stay in EU
2017-08-04 16:03
#134
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Spain JasonRacism 
Cloud9 made it both Renegades and Liquid choked, HS could play in NA for more money simple as that
2017-08-04 16:24
s1mple as that hehe........ we all know how that went :/
2017-08-04 16:44
#151
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Spain JasonRacism 
S1mple has personality issues, Pimp wasn't good enough, If HS joins for example Liquid and they are making majors I'm sure he would be happy and stay in NA
2017-08-05 02:40
Renegades performing better than OpTic? ayy lmao
2017-08-04 07:34
#50
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Spain JasonRacism 
Ever since Stan left I would say Renegades has been the better team, Renegades had a rough patch when they first made roster changes but since they have been playing well imo
2017-08-04 07:37
OpTic had a bad Major Qualifier but then straight after had an amazing tournament where they beat some good teams When has Renegades ever done that? Going 1-1 with NiP and fnatic at Gfinity 2015?
2017-08-04 08:44
Online match with a Standin. SK have done the exact same thing to Renegades 2 other times. That match is only remembered because SK were meant to be Top 1 at the time and they got 16-0d by a shit team
2017-08-04 08:55
cryisfree #RENEGADESTOP1
2017-08-04 09:01
#78
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Spain JasonRacism 
Renegades is better than Chiefs by far lol
2017-08-04 10:56
Probably yeah. You don't fan a team 100% because of their acheivements otherwise literally everyone would be fans of tier 1 teams like SK
2017-08-04 11:25
#89
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Spain JasonRacism 
Normally you fan the best in your country... Not many North fans not many Immortals fans ...
2017-08-04 12:00
Theres still a few tho :)
2017-08-04 13:52
#109
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Spain JasonRacism 
It's rare, Renegades could literally take any Chiefs player so once a player say INS starts playing well Renegades could just steal him anytime then you're back to square 1
2017-08-04 15:27
As long as they dont pickup another pecks, I'll be happy enough. Im a tucks fan tbh, and he has no chance of going to Renegades
2017-08-04 15:54
#127
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Spain JasonRacism 
He probably would be a good option for Renegades if he wasn't, Ofnu and Erkast are the only other IGL who come to my mind apart from the classic Spunj and Snyper, Do you know who is IGL on Kings? is it Wizard?
2017-08-04 15:57
Lightstep and dexter are 2 more options for IGL Im pretty sure its wizard, but they havent really done much as far as publicity goes atm.
2017-08-05 03:26
#159
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Spain JasonRacism 
Lightstep puts up even worse stats than snyper and winterfox obviously thought Ofnu would be better for IGL so meh
2017-08-05 05:47
#162
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Spain JasonRacism 
Apparently Emagine is according to the ESL casters
2017-08-05 07:40
That somewhat makes sense. He took a crack at it back in his Immunity days but it didn't last. A pretty good Aussie IGL is James tho. He has personal issues with a lot of his past teammates, but since taking the role up in Immunity he got pretty good at it
2017-08-05 08:59
#165
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Spain JasonRacism 
They all seem to be not as good as Spunj tbh, Tucks I would take a chance on but he is banned, If Emagine can prove to be a decent IGL then hell yeah I would take a chance on him, His fragging nearly got him in Renegades anyway, When they removed Rickeh people thought it could have been Zewsy or Emagine joining and Yam back to IGL and AWP
2017-08-05 10:12
emagine's good as far as Experienced Aussie players go, but personally i reckon theres better players available. We'll see how Kings do internationally though and if they can overthrow Chiefs as #1 inside Australia
2017-08-05 10:21
#167
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Spain JasonRacism 
There are more skilled players such as Liazz, Zewsy and INS but as far as IGL go Emagine and Erkast would be the 2 most individually skilled IGL, Both don't have much experience but both could come up clutch if Nexa doesn't step up
2017-08-05 10:28
#76
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Spain JasonRacism 
Winning Asia Minor, Doesn't look like it but they were close as fuck from making it to the majors, Lost all games either 16-14 or in overtime and had a very convincing win over Optic at the event, Good win against HellRaisers and took a map off NV and the series was close all together, That's all in the last 2 months please tell me what Optic has done in the last 2 months? I'm done with Optic, I'm a die hard Mixwell fan and I haven't been impressed with Optic
2017-08-04 10:52
Defeating North, FaZe and SS to make top 8 at ESL Cologne then taking SK to a close 3 map series. You talk about the teams Renegades managed to beat and none of them even managed to qualify for the major. As much as i would love to support Renegades as an Aussie myself, I just cant support a team that refuses to make the changes necessary to actually win. I tried following them for years then gave up around the time Legacy with topguN and Havoc was brought together
2017-08-04 11:29
#90
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Spain JasonRacism 
Refuses to make changes? They finally did? They went outside of always picking up Australians and finally got some talent in NA and EU, Nifty is playing great and is an upgrade from both Yam and Rickeh, Nexa has been very average and hasn't done anything crazy to make me think "wow this was a great pickup it's worth putting up with the language barrier for him!" If Nexa doesn't start showing up by mid-end of EPL then bring in Liazz, INS or Erkast for him, Or another option try get Zewsy to make a return to CS
2017-08-04 12:04
Nifty is good, but he's a bit inconsistent. However he's completely justifiable as he's a good player to replace Rickeh (Who was better could be debated for yonks). Nexa though, was brought in to IGL the team, gave up after a month and has just sucked ever since. There was no reason to bring him in to begin with other than Kassad swearing he was a good player, despite there being better and proven talent still in Australia. The only Aussie team i dislike more than Renegades is Ex-Winterfox. They took refusing to change roster to a whole new level.
2017-08-04 13:37
#115
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Spain JasonRacism 
I would say Nifty is a better AWPer than Rickeh but Rickeh is better with rifles, Nifty also stepping up for IGL makes me give him loads of respect, Yeah Nexa will have to start lifting his game up this season of EPL or they should go for imo Liazz or Erkast, Erkast can IGL so that lifts some weight of Nifty or you can have Liazz who looks like he plays pretty close to how Jks plays who is good in clutch situations and can solo bomb sites when needed, Sometimes making heaps of roster changes isn't going to do you any well, I think Winterfox should have just replaced Moku and Raz with Liazz and Infrequent and see how they go, Even if they did have to play premier in NA with a different org
2017-08-04 15:35
They made a good change when they took RaZ. He was one of the hottest prospects of Australia, but unfortunately he just couldnt play the same in Winterfox. Whether that was because he didnt have the team based around him or because he simply started sucking, I cant say. What doesnt make sense though is why they kept ap0c/Moku to begin with. Ofnu had IGL'd in the past and was a far better player overall. Taking RaZ and another player like dizzy, liazz, erkast, deoxide or numerous others couldve paid off, but they never made that change at the time
2017-08-04 15:53
#128
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Spain JasonRacism 
Dizzy and Deoxide duo looked deadly in Legacy I have no idea wtf is going on for them right now, They play a different roster every match, Yeah Moku was meh and Raz couldn't find any sucsess in NA, Suprised Emagine, Zewsy and even Ofnu didn't get offers or good enough offers to stay in NA, They could have easily played in teams like Complexity and Selfless without any issues at all and Ofnu being an IGL is worth a risky pickup for a lower tier EPL NA team
2017-08-04 16:02
OpTic allu PogChamp would be great I like allu but i hate Faze and i also like Optic
2017-08-04 09:03
#75
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Australia fakedonhaci 
friberg and allu ez win
2017-08-04 10:51
#77
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Spain JasonRacism 
Maybe but I doubt it
2017-08-04 10:53
#96
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Turkey monkeylay16 
-hazed + lowel friend mixwell good player tarik igl
2017-08-04 12:23
#97
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Spain JasonRacism 
Mixwell is leaving Optic for Mouz though
2017-08-04 12:28
i trust monkey
2017-08-04 15:25
#117
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Spain JasonRacism 
Bad
2017-08-04 15:37
#98
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Spain Kauka 
Mixwell not gonna leave, he's getting 2.5k dollars/month he won't leave for playing on Mouz
2017-08-04 13:12
#116
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Spain JasonRacism 
2.5k is nothing dude ... Complexity from NA makes more than that
2017-08-04 15:37
#122
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Other cscrmn1 
And he's sacrificing a role (awper) that he doesn't like. I'm sure he's seeking other chances at the minute.
2017-08-04 15:49
2.5k month ?? LMAO,optic probably pay him over 10k per month.
2017-08-04 16:06
#135
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Spain JasonRacism 
Probably closer to 20k honestly
2017-08-04 16:24
#145
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Spain Kauka 
That said his manager on a stream, about 2.5k dollars/month with all expenses paid
2017-08-04 18:16
#150
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Spain JasonRacism 
Proof? 2.5k is nothing, Optic are for sure getting close to 20k
2017-08-05 02:38
#136
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Romania blazexd 
allu most likely going to ence , if not at least a finnish team
2017-08-04 16:26
#138
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Spain JasonRacism 
Maybe, It'll just end the same way as before though lmfao
2017-08-04 16:39
#139
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Romania blazexd 
lets hope the best for him , he's good guy
2017-08-04 16:39
#149
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Spain JasonRacism 
Looks like a good guy but that isn't going to get you on top teams
2017-08-05 02:37
#137
gla1ve | 
Russia SLX96 
-m1xwell +moose -hazed + stanislaw
2017-08-04 16:27
-shroud +jks actually, this has been considered since a long time ago
2017-08-04 17:15
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Spain JasonRacism 
Yeah I know and I'm pretty sure Jks got a offer from Cloud9 when Seangares left, That's why I don't think Jks would leave Optic he looks very committed to making Renegades a top team and I respect that
2017-08-05 02:36
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