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United States KinglyFish 
Does anyone find it ridiculous that American students have to pay the equivalent of a yearly salary just to attend school? 60,000+ dollars a year is over the per capita income in the US. How is anyone supposed to afford that? I don't believe in free education, but education should be affordable and available to everyone even if you can't afford it.
2017-08-05 21:50
240,000+ dollars just for a dorm that probably would normally cost 75 dollars a month to rent if divided among 3-4 people and learning from a professor who's also teaching 30-100 other kids at the same time. Education is worth it, but what's justifying this price?
2017-08-05 21:52
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United States sickening 
wait, what? am I somehow misinterpreting here? why did you type $240,000+ for a dorm payment?
2017-08-05 22:47
Didn't Said dorm + education
2017-08-05 23:31
Who the fuck is paying that much to go to college? I didn't pay near that, in 6 years of school I spent less than $120K and I have a master's degree. Oh and by the way, if you can't afford it and you qualify, there are scholarships, grants, and loans available to you. If you're successful in school then you simply pay back the loans... but these claims about the cost of school are extremely dubious. i.gyazo.com/c0e238c63fb5e1bc62e4ef7aed5c..
2017-08-05 21:55
Depends on where you go, if you go to a public college in state it'll cost a lot less. But, if you wanna attend Harvard, Princeton, etc or another private it'll for sure cost this much without a scholarship. NYU probably costs 80k tbh...
2017-08-05 21:55
I don't understand your argument? Everyone should be able to go to Harvard, Princeton or NYU? You know, it's actually far less important the school you go to than you may think, especially for your undergraduate.
2017-08-05 21:56
Cuz only the wealthy should be able to go to best universities.. Burger logic
2017-08-05 22:06
No. There are a lot of people who go to Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Brown etc that aren't rich, because they get in based on merit, but you don't know this because you're not even American. Toilet washer logic.
2017-08-05 22:08
Still nothing like go to university and be buried under huge loans for half of your adult life cuz of it...
2017-08-05 22:10
Sick memes, I make more in a year than I paid to go to 6 years of college. Huge loans half my adult life? I have 0 loans. Point is, not everything requires you to go to school, and a lot of what does, doesn't require a 4 year degree from a Tier 1 school.
2017-08-05 22:12
Because if you don't have loans the statistic is bullshit, i guess going to university doesn't improve your intelligence... $1.44 trillion in total U.S. student loan debt 44.2 million Americans with student loan debt Cmon dude its ridiculous
2017-08-05 22:14
That's because people go to schools for things they don't need to go to school for. Dumb on them.
2017-08-05 22:17
I guess the decision to go to school for something you love that may not be paid well should ruin your life LMAO
2017-08-05 22:19
How does that ruin your life? Don't go to school for 'things you love' if there's no reason to go to school for it. You can study that stuff on the side, things we love that don't pay us anything are called 'hobbies' you fucking idiot.
2017-08-05 22:20
So i guess a person can't look for making a hobby a job, kinda ironic considering it's forum on csgo where we talk about people doing something they love as a job... Besides you need fucking english teachers and i bet they are paid shit salaries and they have to go to university for that...
2017-08-05 22:24
You don't simply decide that your hobby is a job. It either is or it isn't and you're either capable of marketing it or you aren't and that is up to the individual not for everything around you to conform.
2017-08-05 22:25
Wait what, that's retarted af.. What if you love psychology and you go to study psychology cuz you fucking like it and you get a degree but there is a shortage of jobs for psychologists what then it's your fault because you should have known that there won't be any jobs for that, so instead you should for something you hate but is well paid LMAO not everything to conform i just don't want to have a loan for the rest of my life because i decided to persue something i like as a career and it failed LEL
2017-08-05 22:31
Then you made a PERSONAL DECISION to focus on your interests and not what was marketable so you have NO RIGHT to complain. Why are Europeans so retarded?
2017-08-05 22:32
I guess believing that going to university to persue your interests should not ruin your life if it didn't turn out to be marketable makes me retarded...
2017-08-05 22:34
You can pursue your interests without going to University you fucking idiot.
2017-08-05 22:35
But I'm also trying to make it my job, nobody hires psychologists, teachers etc. without degree, so you have try and go to fucking university to have a chance for it to become your job is that so hard to understand ... You go to fucking university because you want to make something you like and you're good at your job.
2017-08-05 22:38
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Canada pokerchip 
So much for the American Dream..
2017-08-05 23:23
u use ur loans to get urself an education, degree, and good payin job. u can easily pay dem back
2017-08-05 22:13
Yes, rather that, than live on low salary rest of my life, like 99% of poorlaks in Denmark.
2017-08-05 22:50
Fortunately i don't need to choose cuz we have free univesities so nt i guess, you failed..
2017-08-05 22:52
Are you retarded? We talk about loans Universities are also free here, so I dont know what the fuck you are talkin about. I've never understood you polaks, nor my friends.. you are nice and kindly, but completly stupid. Against stupidity the very gods themselves contend in vain
2017-08-05 22:58
Sure whatever makes you hard my friend
2017-08-05 22:59
did you tank your car for 4 liters benzin today? i know its the limit in poland pr day
2017-08-05 23:02
Sure whatever gives u a boner my friend
2017-08-05 23:02
+1 I go to Harvard as an undergrad for the class of 2020 (going into my sophomore year next semester) and they gave me a huge financial aid package EVEN though I'm an international student. In fact it's true to say that SPECIFICALLY schools like Harvard, Princeton, Yale all are more lenient when it comes to financial needs since they have such huge endowments earning ridiculous amounts of interest every year. To be fair though, I did go to a prestigious all boys boarding school in England which was mostly for wealthy elites and it seems that most other UK students taken into the class of 2020 (about 20-30 of us) are all from similarly elitist boarding schools. The only problem, at least for internationals like me, is that I'm not too sure what Trump's policies are going to be with regards to H-1B work visas and how easy it will be for firms to sponsor me for a work permit. I heard legal immigration is moving to a points based system where making a high enough salary is key and so if I were a firm like Goldman Sachs (which is where I want to end up) I certainly wouldn't pick someone like myself where they would have to pay me a higher salary to sponsor my work visa when I could just choose another Harvard kid from the US where I'll pay him less and have to go through less bullshit bureaucracy/paperwork . I'm afraid it's uncertain times ahead for me LUL
2017-08-09 02:12
and people in Germany spent what? less than 10k? (beside living expenses) and its equally good if not better except the top American universities lul
2017-08-05 22:19
So what? Going to a University isn't a right, plenty of people pay absolutely nothing to go to school in the U.S. So it's not an apt comparison.
2017-08-05 22:21
haha believe me if it was up to me it should be more privatized in Germany but the quality outcome US universities offer is quite mediocre considering the price, here private universities cost what..600 bucks a month?
2017-08-05 22:23
It's not about the quality of the education so much as the individual utilizing that education and how they utilize it. Don't forget there are people who have created more wealth for this planet than anybody who didn't even graduate from University.
2017-08-05 22:25
yet it puts young people in debt which shouldnt be the point of getting mainstream education, especially because getting a university degree isnt something special that only a few people know about, you can teach almost everything on your own, yet they want shitloads for it
2017-08-05 22:26
Nobody is forcing you to get a University education, that's the point of my previous post. If its worthless mainstream knowledge then don't spend money for it. If it's an education or skill set that gives you marketable knowledge and skills then its worth it. That's up to the individual to decide.
2017-08-05 22:28
considering that as soon as you go to school you get indoctrinated to become part of the system (finish school, go to university, find a job) its "useful" for the most, perfect way to stay mediocre for life, its indeed nothing special to get a degree (unless you study something like physics etc. and you simply need to), mentors are way more important (or learning by doing), but nobody uses that anyway if youre in the system
2017-08-05 22:35
what did u study in uni
2017-08-05 22:21
burgers still cheap
2017-08-05 22:00
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Croatia mds818 
tbh idk,school is cheap as fuck here but i dont really like the system,its too much about grades which are given away for free(literaly) and its 0 about education,so you have shitload of people who're doing highly respected job without having a clue about it while a lot of people who understand the job are unemployed... regarding prices,high is school is like 150$-250$ for books for the all subjects+20$ schoolarship+10$ smth and thats it(plus ofc everyday meal which got nothing to do with school really) while coll. got shitload of discounts for stundents so..
2017-08-05 22:07
i dont like americans being on hltv they remind me of reddit leave this place, this is no place for mortals
2017-08-05 22:09
#54
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United States sickening 
because we don't type like we're retarded?
2017-08-05 22:50
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Turkmenistan Autista 
Half of your people have sex with donkeys or relatives. It's a necessity because of them or do you want these kinds of people to spread their bullshit?
2017-08-05 22:27
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Poland Banan_IDK 
*laughs in european*
2017-08-05 22:28
yup its shit
2017-08-05 22:53
That's why a left goverment is better for students.
2017-08-05 22:59
#68
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Argentina YH!one 
Education is a human right and it should be guaranteed by the State in a secular way in all the levels, it's not only a private business like in your country where people who don't have money can't access to it, thus most likely generating uneducated people that may do bad stuff as citizens in a future. Also the elitist concept of meritocracy is bullshit too, it only favours the rich who are already stablished and specially the banks, even lot of "middle class" students need to get a job to pay for it or take huge loans to afford it, when you're supposed to study so you can get your degree to then work in a future. If you're born in a low resources or poor family you don't have access to college, therefore that generates more poverty and exclusion, and if they find a way to enter in college taking loans or something and fail they will be also in debt for the rest of their lives or till they pay it thus generating even more poverty.
2017-08-05 23:09
+1
2017-08-05 23:05
wat do u mean by fail. fail because dey arent tryin hard enough? too much to handle? disability?
2017-08-05 23:13
Actually the way it is, in the US it is super cheap for a poor smart person to get a higher education, and harder for a smart upper middle class person to get an education. Im lower middle class and Im going to a very good school and will only have to take out about 20k in loans over 4 years and easily be making 60-70k in my first year out of college
2017-08-05 23:18
The government gives loans to everyone which causes tution to inflate, the US government is also #5 worldwide in spending per student yet our eduaction is still way too expensive. Its the fucking loans man.
2017-08-05 23:12
Yes it is surely too much, it used to be much more sensible I hear. Some fees are fine but at this point you might really consider other options if you aren't really smart even if that is not what you want.
2017-08-05 23:21
That's why you go to Europe. 20k per year fees and about 10-15 in dorm fees.
2017-08-05 23:22
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