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Renegades 5th
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Spain JasonRacism 
Who do you think will replace Jayzwalkingz I he doesn't step up at Malmo? Remember he is only on trial so he could be gone at anytime ... I think it could be either Naf Pronax Brehze Liazz Zewsy BnTeT Erkast Relyks Hiko Bondik
2017-08-28 08:26
#1
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Spain JasonRacism 
If he * Ffs lol
2017-08-28 08:27
y haff to be such a greammmar nazi
2017-08-28 09:09
#31
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Spain JasonRacism 
Yolo
2017-08-28 09:16
#2
n2g | 
United States n2g 
Probably Naf, BnTeT would be pretty sick though! Imagine him on an English speaking team
2017-08-28 08:28
#3
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Spain JasonRacism 
Yeah Tyloo not being able to speak good English limits BnTeT's full potential
2017-08-28 08:33
- Jaywalkings + Nothing Pretty unrealistic but imagine how good they'd be
2017-08-28 08:38
#6
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Spain JasonRacism 
Eh, I still think Naf would bring more to the team, n0thing really reminds me of aim no brain every time I watch him play lol
2017-08-28 08:48
#107
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Sweden 4Sweeeden 
You mean brain no aim.. right?
2017-08-30 04:58
#12
HenryG | 
Canada Esyx 
n0thing is a terrible player these days though
2017-08-28 08:53
#18
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Spain JasonRacism 
He changed his role way too often on Cloud9
2017-08-28 08:59
#19
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African Union mikecool 
n0thing could igl for them?
2017-08-28 09:00
#20
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Spain JasonRacism 
n0thing being IGL didn't last long in Cloud9 and Nifty seems to be doing fine currently, If n0thing joined he'd 100% have to be a supportive player
2017-08-28 09:02
#21
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Spain JasonRacism 
Still think Naf would be a better option imo but who knows
2017-08-28 09:02
#55
Nifty | 
United States SYMPathy 
Nifty has had some shaky performances recently. Hopefully he can multi-role well soon though
2017-08-29 02:47
#57
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Spain JasonRacism 
1.10 rating last 3 months I think he is doing fine :)
2017-08-29 02:51
#22
HenryG | 
Canada Esyx 
n0thing can't IGL for shit. He's the player that will forget strats and make questionable calls at best. He can secondary IGL on strenuous ocxasions but should be limited to just that
2017-08-28 09:04
#32
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Spain JasonRacism 
Lol +1 all aim no brain
2017-08-28 09:27
haha
2017-08-29 07:53
#83
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Spain JasonRacism 
Lmfao
2017-08-29 07:56
#5
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United States zer0skill 
Not sure if realistic, but +seang@res would be really interesting imo
2017-08-28 08:42
#7
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Spain JasonRacism 
Could happen, Would let Nifty only focus on fragging and that could turn out well
2017-08-28 08:48
they dont need an igl
2017-08-30 05:53
Not Zewsy, he signed with Tainted Minds a couple weeks ago
2017-08-28 08:49
#10
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Spain JasonRacism 
Renegades could buyout any player playing in AU/NZ
2017-08-28 08:51
+n0thing or +Naf would be good imo
2017-08-28 08:49
#15
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Spain JasonRacism 
True true :D
2017-08-28 08:55
#11
aurora | 
Australia omag 
Relyks or kaboose boiiiss
2017-08-28 08:51
#14
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Spain JasonRacism 
Kaboose has potential but I think Relyks would be a better option than him, Surprised Kaboose isn't on a EPL team currently but instead on a premier team
2017-08-28 08:55
Too inconsistent
2017-08-29 08:10
#87
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Spain JasonRacism 
Yeah true, He is still very young though has potential
2017-08-29 08:33
i think his aim is nuts but he never really performed that well against the better NA teams. i think for the time being premier is a good place for him to prove himself again against lower tier opposition.
2017-08-30 05:04
#13
HenryG | 
Canada Esyx 
I think they're lacking solid full time leadership. They've been substituting with players who should focus on other aspects of thier game. A good IGL could be daps or sgares.
2017-08-28 08:54
#16
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Spain JasonRacism 
Don't think SeanGares would tbh, Renegades are all in a team house since they are mostly Australian and SeanGares literally just settled in with his girlfriend and everything, Daps could bring good leadership but my god his fragging is just shocking most of the time ...
2017-08-28 08:58
5 x who?
2017-08-28 08:58
#24
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Spain JasonRacism 
Huh
2017-08-28 09:08
I dont get why they are picking up B grade swedish players like atter and jayz..
2017-08-28 09:07
renegades owner is swedish
2017-08-28 09:09
#29
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Spain JasonRacism 
He wouldn't have much influence on who they get
2017-08-28 09:10
Yeah Kassad would be the big decision maker
2017-08-28 10:48
#27
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Spain JasonRacism 
Atter was just a stand in untill Nexa got his visa sorted and shit, Jayzwalkingz on trial, Maybe seeing if he lived up to the potential and maybe waiting for Naf's contract with Optic to expire so they don't have to buy him out
2017-08-28 09:09
#28
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Australia balworg 
Probably NAF or Relyks
2017-08-28 09:10
#30
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Spain JasonRacism 
Yeah +1 BnTeT would be a huge pickup though if he was committed to moving to NA and could work wonders
2017-08-28 09:11
actually never thought of him as an option. pretty unrealistic for it to happen but that would make this roster so much better
2017-08-30 05:55
#129
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Spain JasonRacism 
Not as unrealistic as you may think, BnTeT can't speak Chinese and being on an English speaking team would favour him, Also being on Renegades planning trips back home to Indonesia would be easy, Just let him go the same time Jks, Azr and Ustilo go to Australia
2017-08-30 08:27
#33
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Kazakhstan dc7 
kioshima has exceptional english
2017-08-28 09:36
#35
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Spain JasonRacism 
If he is willing to move to NA then sure, I know for a fact if I was him I'd miss banging his girlfriend back in EU
2017-08-28 09:41
id like to see crazyguy on renegades. i think he would do well but doesnt seem likely he has the chance to join
2017-08-28 09:40
#37
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Spain JasonRacism 
I don't think they will try get another secondary AWP after what Jayzwalkingz has done so far
2017-08-28 09:42
INS/Malta imo
2017-08-28 09:41
#38
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Spain JasonRacism 
Maybe INS but I don't think Malta is ready
2017-08-28 09:43
I think Malta is ready tbh. He's 21 yo whereas INS is 18. Also if you ignore the beginning of this (where he's clearly had a bit of trouble) and scroll down there's a ton of great performances. hltv.org/stats/players/matches/11485/mal..
2017-08-28 09:47
#40
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Spain JasonRacism 
I wasn't really talking about age but yeah, Do you think they are better than Zewsy, Liazz and Erkast though? Heard Erkast was IGL untill Dexter joined as well
2017-08-28 09:57
I do think they are tbh, I've been watching games from both and INS/Malta have impressed a ton more.
2017-08-28 14:25
#47
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Spain JasonRacism 
Have you seen games from Zewsy though? The guy was SMASHING it in NA pro league last year
2017-08-28 15:45
NA pro league ecksdee
2017-08-29 00:26
#54
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Spain JasonRacism 
? There is a reason the best Australian team left home to play in NA
2017-08-29 02:48
yeah because there's a much bigger scene there than here. not necessarily more skill.
2017-08-29 06:31
#66
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Spain JasonRacism 
Tier 1 NA EPL SK Immortals C9 Liquid Renegades Optic Tier 2 NA EPL Misfits CLG NRG Luminosity Chiefs, Kings and maybe Grayhound would probably sit tier 2 NA
2017-08-29 06:43
I'd put Chiefs/Kings at Tier 1.5
2017-08-29 07:02
#92
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Spain JasonRacism 
I think you're just a little biased, Chiefs and Kings are probably worse than CLG but better than Luminosity, I would put them mid pack of tier 2 NA
2017-08-30 04:20
As somebody who has been watching them closely, I would put them ever so slightly below CLG. Tier 1.5.
2017-08-30 05:37
#42
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Italy NathaNN 
I hope for them NAF, but atter could be a good player
2017-08-28 11:56
#48
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Spain JasonRacism 
I really doubt Atter
2017-08-28 15:46
hiko xd
2017-08-28 11:57
#49
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Spain JasonRacism 
I was waiting for that, Hiko could become a supportive role for the rest of his career and I think he would do well, As long as he doesn't have to IGL like he was in Liquid towards the end of his time
2017-08-28 15:47
#44
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Turkey SSg2K 
why do u post on reddit and hltv at the same time?
2017-08-28 11:58
#50
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Spain JasonRacism 
I don't have a reddit account
2017-08-28 15:47
#52
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Spain JasonRacism 
Reddit is for nerds
2017-08-28 16:16
#46
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CIS FrayZZZ 
SPUNJ
2017-08-28 14:27
#51
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Spain JasonRacism 
Feels bad man, Wouls be nice but he is killing it at his new job
2017-08-28 15:49
#56
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United States Den422 
Bondik and NAF sound good but Relyks sounds most likely because he played with Nifty for a long time.
2017-08-29 02:49
#58
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Spain JasonRacism 
True, Nifty also said Brehze was his favourite team mate he has ever had before he joined Renegades on an interview he had with Ryu on the Selfless YouTube channel
2017-08-29 02:52
BnTeT wouldn't even be a bad choice... Australia is pretty much Asia so it'd make sense as it's closer to his home.
2017-08-29 02:52
#60
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Spain JasonRacism 
Renegades play in NA but he wouldn't be homesick as much because when Jks, Azr and Ustilo go home 2/3 times a year BnTeT can also go home to Indonesia the same time and it would just be easy, BnTeT on an English speaking team makes me hard as fuck
2017-08-29 02:55
#62
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United States ViKaLiBuR 
I can see Renegades going with a highly skilled player like NAF if he doesn't decide to go to NRG to play with Daps. Other than NAF, they can decide to go international again, get Nexa back, or go for lowly-recognized NA player like Relyks or whatever. Whatever happens, Renegades would be 100% better off without BOTwalkinz.
2017-08-29 06:36
#67
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Spain JasonRacism 
I don't see them getting Daps, If they were to get an IGL I see Pronax more of a possibility but Nifty seems to be doing well managing AWPing and IGL for now so they will probably go for fire power, Naf and Relyks are both strong options, I think Brehze is more likely than people think, Nifty said Brehze his favourite teammate before Nifty joined Renegades, He said that on the interview with Ryu on the Selfless YouTube channel
2017-08-29 06:47
NAF or n0thing
2017-08-29 06:36
#70
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Spain JasonRacism 
Both good options if n0thing stops changing up his roles
2017-08-29 06:49
*Nerf or nothing
2017-08-29 08:12
Slemmy
2017-08-29 06:40
#105
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Spain JasonRacism 
Would rather Pronax
2017-08-30 04:57
Pronax doesn't have the fragging capabilities that Slemmy has. Slemmy is a much more consistent and safe pick.
2017-08-30 05:15
#115
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Spain JasonRacism 
Slemmy and Pronax both can't drag, Pronax more experienced IGL and hasn't had far more success, Slemmy against the teams Pronax normally plays could be even worse
2017-08-30 05:47
Lol you say that and Pronax can't even drop 30 against NRG in 3 maps. Slemmy is more dominant in every way and achievements from a year ago + barely matter. Slemmy is creating an up and coming team in the NA scene and will soon be on top. Not to mention Slemmy has a way better pistol than Pronax.
2017-08-30 06:26
Personally, I think Slemmy would be the better pick because pronax is so washed up and Slemmy is leading an up and coming NA team fragging out of his mind (on train), not only that but is he way hotter 2,
2017-08-30 06:27
#123
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Spain JasonRacism 
Complexity is improving heaps and is no longer a meme but they won't be top of NA anytime soon, Also saw a Thorin video where apparently Slemmy wasn't really doing much IGL work for Cloud9
2017-08-30 06:31
tbh pronax would be the dream fit but really its so up in the air if jay fails
2017-08-29 07:06
#77
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Spain JasonRacism 
Jayzwalkingz is on trial so if he doesn't play well at Malmo expect changes
2017-08-29 07:26
Id like naf, isnt too bad at fragging and a solid igl. But i really dont know what renegades needs besides a good fragger because nifty seems do be doing great at igling and awping and i dont know if nafs style will screw things up
2017-08-29 07:11
#78
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Spain JasonRacism 
Naf has never IGL before or at least didn't want to at Optic, He is a very solid fragger though and hopefully could make it work at Renegades replacing Jayzwalkingz
2017-08-29 07:27
Who was igl for optic? plz dont say tarik
2017-08-29 07:41
#81
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Spain JasonRacism 
It went Stan to Hiko to JasonR to Hazed and finally Tarik had a go at the final event he played at with Optic
2017-08-29 07:49
Ahhhhh thats right. ty bby
2017-08-29 07:57
Would be good to see them pick up another player from the Oceania scene such as Liazz, Erkast, Malta or INS. BnTeT would also be a crazy pick up if the team could somehow get him.
2017-08-29 07:14
#79
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Spain JasonRacism 
Yeah true, Tucks would have been nice if he didn't have a god damn previous vac ban ... BnTeT would be an INSANE pickup, Imagine him actually being able to communicate with his team ... The potential would be sick!
2017-08-29 07:28
#88
Oceania cwns 
Ex6tenZ
2017-08-29 08:39
#90
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Spain JasonRacism 
Not sure how good his English is tbh
2017-08-29 09:38
#89
SPUNJ | 
Latvia XYPyra 
My suggestion - bringing back Spunj. He was not so good on fragging side, but now they have world class awp, what they lack of before. Doing analyst job, he has gained huge expierence. He knows cs more than before as he said.
2017-08-29 08:41
#91
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Spain JasonRacism 
Would love Spunj back and I agree Nifty > Yam but I doubt Spunj is ever going to give up being an analyst, He's been getting to do heaps of events and he looks like he is really enjoying it
2017-08-29 09:40
#93
kennyS | 
Ireland koldozi 
brehze will join dazed sooner or later
2017-08-30 04:21
#94
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Spain JasonRacism 
If Naf goes to Renegades (most likely) Brehze probably won't have any better option as of right now
2017-08-30 04:24
#95
kennyS | 
Ireland koldozi 
me personally i think brehze is massively underrated and deserves a better team than nrg. i imagine a team with azk dazed wag brehze and maybe n0thing, moe or ptr if he decides to leave coL
2017-08-30 04:26
#98
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Spain JasonRacism 
Brehze is the only reason NRG is relevant at all so I agree with you, Renegades have been beating teams like Immortals and Liquid literally 4v5, Renegades would be super strong and probably better than Liquid and maybe even Cloud9 with Brehze or Naf replacing Jayzwalkingz
2017-08-30 04:39
the only better teams in NA are c9, optic and liquid. neither c9 or optic would want/need him atm. rng imo are pretty on par with liquid currently.
2017-08-30 06:01
#128
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Spain JasonRacism 
+1 Renegades with Naf instead of Jayzwalkingz could probably be better than Cloud9 honestly, Would have to wait and see
2017-08-30 08:25
#96
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Australia pelican8484 
liazz would be awesome in RNG
2017-08-30 04:31
#100
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Spain JasonRacism 
He looks solid, Kinda seems like he has dropped off a bit since joining Kings though
2017-08-30 04:40
#102
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Australia pelican8484 
i think coz he is a support player in kings not their star player
2017-08-30 04:49
#103
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Australia Jollybeans 
He's not going to be the star in renegades either.
2017-08-30 04:54
#108
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Australia pelican8484 
but he will be a lot better then jayz
2017-08-30 04:58
#110
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Australia Jollybeans 
True.
2017-08-30 05:01
#106
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Spain JasonRacism 
Yeah that's the problem, Renegades are in need of a support player, As good as some Australian players are nobody is going to take the star role away from Jks
2017-08-30 04:58
rickeh , closed/
2017-08-30 04:35
#99
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Spain JasonRacism 
Personality issues
2017-08-30 04:39
BnTeT would be a crazy pickup, this team's mentally weak from what I've seen over the years though.
2017-08-30 04:44
#104
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Spain JasonRacism 
BnTeT would be, Would also benefit him more than being on Tyloo as well, They seem to be better recently
2017-08-30 04:56
Hiko just joined and started the Rogue lineup. Why the fuck would he leave. Bet you $10mil that Hiko doesn't leave rogue for Rng
2017-08-30 05:00
#112
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Spain JasonRacism 
Hiko wouldn't be Renegades first choice either, But all the shit with Cerq and Wardell Hiko must be down in the dumps and I don't think it would be out of this world for him to abandon his project, Again it wouldn't be Renegades first choice so I doubt it too
2017-08-30 05:06
I pray that hiko doesn't join rng, he'd make them worse
2017-08-30 06:02
#120
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Spain JasonRacism 
He's still a good player, Imagine being in Hiko's situation, IGL in Liquid with all the bullshit in the team going around while he is still learning to IGL, Coming to Optic a team that he has never played with any of the players before apart from pugs and is expected to be a good IGL straight away, He is still a good fragger it's just so sad that people only remember him for the more recent times not him being one of the best players in NA literally for years
2017-08-30 06:11
#124
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United States sickening 
GOD naf will carry the aussies to a major final
2017-08-30 06:33
#125
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Spain JasonRacism 
They don't even need a carry, They just need someone to keep up tbh
2017-08-30 06:42
#126
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United States NA_CS_FAN 
naf would be good, doesn't have to move out of NA and they speak english so win win.
2017-08-30 07:06
#127
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Spain JasonRacism 
True, All of Renegades lives in a team house as long as that's not a problem then win win
2017-08-30 08:24
Just disband . I really dont see a reason for them to stick around in one team . They literally havent done jack in 2 years
2017-08-30 08:56
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