because shit EU and his economic programs
Maybe they just want to be independant because they have their own history/ culture?
its a long story but apparently this has been going on for decades. think it goes far back to the middle age and theyre claiming some lands. kind of like the israeli-palestinian conflict if im not mistaken, only way less violent
please learn spain history before asking stupid questions
Catalonia wanna leave from Spain because of this reasons:
- Catalan people pay a lot of taxes that are going to Spanish Government and Catalonia wants to make their own economy.
- Catalonia wants to have their own government becoming a republic.
- Catalonia is the richer statue on Spain and the spanish government don't hear their proposals.
CATALONIA BEING INDEPENDENCE WILL BE RICHER THAN IT IS RIGHT NOW.
Because we have a stupid central government which thinks every other nationalism apart from the spanish one is a "dictatorship" and "antidemocratic", if you watch the polls four years ago, there were still people who would want independence but it wasn't the biggest majority. What the majority did want was a fucking referendum to decide whether to declare independence or not, Madrid's government said "nah, it's not in the Constitution, and we can't modify that" which is a fucking big fat lie, and now most of Catalonia is united politically and socially against the Madrid government. Fuck, I even think many people like me from other parts of Spain who don't want them to go independent support their right to decide whether or not to be. ALSO, I do get it, fuck, if Galicia was as rich as Catalonia right now I'd actually see in independence a great way out of the AWFUL government we have.
TL;DR Spain's government sucks and Catalonia wants to decide whether or not to go independent.
i realized how braindead you are after reading "The muslims?"
Madrid's government,it's time to pay for what you did throughout the years to all regions of Spain.
this shit is illegal and goes against the spanish law
if want to make it legal ask the uk
" The muslims"
everything is about islam and muslims nowadays.
But how is becoming independent from Spain is gonna make Catalonia rich state? They won't be in EU anymore that means less tourism and you don't have any natural resources or anything. All you have is a beautiful city, great football team, and tourism.
But I'm all for catalonians having their free will and being able to vote for becoming independent from Spain
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Good luck to them, at least the Catalunians will get free from the regime of the EU.
Muslims here Muslims there, enough! we have absolutely nothing to do with it, we don't stand with anyone and we don't cheer to anyone, this doesn't concern us as muslims as we don't have any problems with anyone of them.
spanish goverment doesnt allow the people to give their opinion about their own freedom. As simple as that.
also some country annex Luxembourg, this isn't even a country, they speak 3+ languages and have no history and culture, just a place of foreigners,
they won't get independent anyway, at least no via regular ways. constitutionally is impossible. war is the only way.
It'll be better for all people on Catalonia to be independent tbh, better economy than the rest of the country and a quite a fuckton of people.
Also they share some culture differences that are minor overall but is still a point to consider.
What i'm talking is from a guy that doesn't live on Spain and has barely any knowledge anyway so don't take my word over the one of someone that is more informed.
The Basques deserve their own country more than Catalans imo. But I don't think anything will happen after all.
Reposting from another thread.
Well the separatist movements got a lot of fuel from Brexit. Not only in Catalonia, but a lot of places in Europe. Catalonia is not even the best example, even though they’ve been making a lot of noise lately. Much the same thing kind happened in Belgium and Ireland. The case of Belgium and Catalonia is kind of similar. Both cases evolve around the fact that some parts of the county have their own identity. Both countries are multilinguistic societies, and in Belgium the languages doesn’t even get close to being similar. Flemish is… well Flemish. You have to witness it. Both cases are based on one part of the country feeling they are paying for the party. Of cause this is a simplistic version of a complex problem, but this is what’s at the core of the problem.
It is a really delicate question and despite I respect human rights I do not agree with separation of provinces in any country right now.
It brings war, hatred and isolation. It is not gonna end good for Catalonia
Watch Nato start bombing Spain cuz spain wont let them depart =))
Any ignorant who studied history knows what spain was before the foundation in 15 century, and thats why they want the independence
They are the 4th province in Spain receiving the most money in the country, yet they really think they get robbed. Well I live in Aragon, and we are absolutely eclipsed by catalonian and other closer regions. We could have been one of the biggest eolic energic producers in the world but noooooooo money for Andalucia and catalonia. They wanna be a republica, well, like most of the country. They really think they pay more taxes, well in my case my vote has less value than theirs because of voting system. Independence is just some shit invented by catalonian government so that people forget tax increases just to STEAL MORE. The problem is, even though, comes with the referendum, in their brainwashed head they think it's illegal because government wants. Well no, It is in the spanish constitution. They really think they can just go over the rules, and this makes no sense because they havent tried to negotiate It, It has no based statements and rational ones, it's just useless bullshit that doesnt make sense. They didnt base their thoughts like science would, it's more like a religion, the nacionalism.
HELLO? HISTORY CLASS MAYBE?
because they think they can be a country xd