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Should criminals have rights?
Aika | 
New Zealand imgur 
So National my countries biggest political party want to pass a law that will allow officers the ability to search convicted criminals (mainly gang members and the crime has to be severe I believe 1 year of jail time) without a warrant What are your thoughts on this I personally think its a good law 99% of the time they will get a warrant this just saves time and might even save lives. Should criminals have equal rights?
2017-09-25 04:02
Of course they have to have equal rights, who's to decide wether someone is a gangmember or not? Law should be the same for everyone.
2017-09-25 04:06
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JW | 
Sweden osnolsson 
After they have served their time they should absolutely have equal rights
2017-09-25 04:07
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Aika | 
New Zealand imgur 
so if a police believes an ex convict charged with assault and is in a gang that is known for violence has an illegal weapon they should need to wait for a warrant?
2017-09-25 04:10
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JW | 
Sweden osnolsson 
They should be treated like every 1 else would be treated in the same situation, if u keep treating every ex-con as a con then they Will never start acting better.
2017-09-25 04:19
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Aika | 
New Zealand imgur 
except they dont they leave rejoin their gang commit a crime go back to prison
2017-09-25 04:21
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JW | 
Sweden osnolsson 
Some do, some dont, if ur country has that high % of cons coming back then something is wrong with ur legal system, sweden where i live has a very low % of cons coming back, my point is that if u label a guy a con his whole life and dont give him a 2nd chance he Will never get better
2017-09-25 04:26
#12
JW | 
Sweden osnolsson 
They 100% deserve equal right
2017-09-25 04:27
#13
Aika | 
New Zealand imgur 
they have 2nd chances but they rejoin gangs
2017-09-25 04:28
#15
JW | 
Sweden osnolsson 
Thats an idiotic comment, u say they like its a majority and IF that is true then as I said, ur countries legal system is garbage
2017-09-25 04:29
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Aika | 
New Zealand imgur 
a lot do how is the countries legal system garbage you implying we should lock them up for longer?
2017-09-25 04:34
#17
JW | 
Sweden osnolsson 
No in saying that if so many people return then they are not getting rehabilitated while in jail. U dont lock them up just to lock them up, u try to get them to brcome better
2017-09-25 04:40
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Aika | 
New Zealand imgur 
we do but sadly a lot just go back to gang life
2017-09-25 04:46
As long as the goal of prison is punishment and not rehabilitation, we will continue to see a high rate of recidivism.
2017-09-25 04:47
#24
JW | 
Sweden osnolsson 
Exactly my point, i wish to see more treatment and less punishment
2017-09-25 04:49
Nobody is going to throw these guys into jail without clear evidence of something they have actually done so I don't get your point. They have their 2nd chance anyway.
2017-09-25 08:26
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JW | 
Sweden osnolsson 
U didnt really understand my point at all
2017-09-25 14:15
Even if the search happened to some ex-criminal it would have practically zero impact in his life. It's not like this law would make their life after prison harder, the things that do are an entirely different matter. If an ex-criminal gets so pissed off by this law that they start to commit crimes just because of the law then they were never stable enough. Correct me if I still didn't get your point.
2017-09-26 11:12
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JW | 
Sweden osnolsson 
well u sort of got some of my point but still not fully there
2017-09-26 13:22
I guess so. I have to say that I see negative aspects in this law as well, but for me the positive things outweigh them. To be honest I personally wouldn't mind if this kind of law would apply to all citizens of Finland, not just ex-criminals, but I doubt I would find many soul mates in this regard.
2017-09-26 18:19
#23
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United States KreVv 
< go back to prison /close
2017-09-25 04:49
#3
Russia Jovik 
Crime should be treated right and punishments should be increased to death penalty and torture in some cases. This law should pass.
2017-09-25 04:09
#5
Aika | 
New Zealand imgur 
death penalty only if proven beyond reasonable doubt
2017-09-25 04:10
#6
Russia Jovik 
Streets should be clean off of a small pest in the face of those gangsta or whoever.
2017-09-25 04:13
#8
Aika | 
New Zealand imgur 
agreed i heard some people were making cocaine look alikes with the intent of killing junkies those people are doing gods work
2017-09-25 04:21
They really are. I believe easily they're dumb enough to get hooked and die from that. No one's gonna miss shit. Hope soon no one left.
2017-09-25 04:26
Yeah everyone in the world that has taken cocaine is on serial killer status for sure
2017-09-25 04:47
#22
Aika | 
New Zealand imgur 
no but they dont contribute anything
2017-09-25 04:48
Well that's a stupid comment... I know people that has done cocaine, and occasionally does. They are just like me who doesn't do it, except that they are a little better at partying
2017-09-25 10:36
#28
Aika | 
New Zealand imgur 
they are low life criminals who break the law to feel good whats to stop them from raping someone to feel good? hell i bet most of them would kill someone for a high
2017-09-25 11:36
kys
2017-09-25 11:46
#32
Aika | 
New Zealand imgur 
why are you mad low life criminal?
2017-09-25 11:47
im not a criminal or a low life but i still think you should kys
2017-09-25 12:21
#41
Aika | 
New Zealand imgur 
why
2017-09-25 13:03
#14
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United States TruthEmbargo 
No. If you commit a crime you forfeit your rights to be a part of civilization for X amount of time, sometimes permanent.
2017-09-25 04:28
If you let the government take away the rights of criminals, what do you do if they change what it means to be a "criminal"?
2017-09-25 04:40
#25
Aika | 
New Zealand imgur 
theyd need to pass a law tochange it it wouldnever pass
2017-09-25 04:49
You basically want the governments to be able to strip rights from anyone they please, as the courts are corrupt as fuck worldwide. Btw....look into what a courtroom really is, and what it means to be summoned to court and all such. You will be amazed that it is quite a different story than the one we have been told through movies and alike. Basically, being summoned to court is an invitation to come and do business with the court. Legalese (which is a language which is indistinguishable from English, has all sorts of other meanings to the words than what English has, and as such, you are getting fooled, as you think you understand what is being written, but it is indeed written in a foreign language.
2017-09-25 11:41
#33
Aika | 
New Zealand imgur 
this law would only be for serious offences and would be aimed at gang members nz courts are different to american courts if youre refernig to that and different too danish ones too
2017-09-25 11:48
Fucking hell, my noflagging means shit when I carry that Fan tag with me :p Anyway, I am serious. Don't give the few even more power over the masses. That's is my basic idea, which I will always promote, until the day I die.
2017-09-25 11:53
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Aika | 
New Zealand imgur 
nah its cause u posted a google.dk link b4 it wont be power over the masses its power over ex criminals and all it does is reduce the wwait for a warrant which would always be approved
2017-09-25 11:54
#30
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Vietnam Oida 
LUL but Australia is 100% criminals, so WTF ?
2017-09-25 11:42
#34
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Australia basim 
the police are actually criminals pretending to be police just so they can have all connections
2017-09-25 11:50
#35
Aika | 
New Zealand imgur 
good thing im not australian china
2017-09-25 11:51
Same shit. You are equally insane (And this time, it is said in the most positive way possible.) I have a lot of NZ / Aussie friends from my 12 years playing EVE Online.
2017-09-25 11:54
#39
Aika | 
New Zealand imgur 
yes but my ancestors were rich people not convicts
2017-09-25 11:55
you seriously cant tell the difference between a Vietnamese and chinese flag? such wow dimwit Lol
2017-09-26 02:00
#48
Aika | 
New Zealand imgur 
You realise I was joking because he mistook me with Australia right?
2017-09-26 04:56
guess i didnt notice my bad lel
2017-09-27 00:04
#54
Aika | 
New Zealand imgur 
fair enough
2017-09-27 00:05
#42
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Netherlands Darkrain 
NZ judging system is as bad as the american one. Might as well do this
2017-09-25 13:09
#44
Aika | 
New Zealand imgur 
how?
2017-09-26 01:40
Imo murder, rape = kill damn motherfuckers all rest time in jail
2017-09-26 01:42
Depending on the crime. For example pehophiles, sexual predators, murderers should have no rights at all. I mean, they should just be taken out of the court room and shot. No sweet nice prison cell, hot meal, etc. Just a bullet to the head and cremated. BUT, that only goes for criminals that are obviously guilty. There should be nothing like "..oh,,but cops found those tapes of me raping kids w/o a warrant so its not addmissible" and bullshit like that..
2017-09-26 01:58
#49
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Greece Phlebas117 
This is a very mild violation of human rights, that can ease the way to more of those. And what about the police, they're gang members too, who's going to check them? No, thanks. In the words of Juvenal: "et quis custodiet ipsos custodes?"
2017-09-26 09:45
Nope
2017-09-27 00:08
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