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Ksharp | 
United States r3gulator 
I love being right. I said C9 would be sh_t and I was right. Immature kids mixed with introverted kids. Stewie is the problem. He is best suited with no input on major decisions.
2017-10-05 22:55
yes, kick their best player, seems solid to me. while your at it might also remove their 2. best player autimatic and na will never be relevant.
2017-10-05 22:56
#8
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Brazil autimaking 
autimatic is the best player of that team you know that right ?
2017-10-05 23:01
#11
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United States PsychoLogical 
actually stewie is their best player on C9, Autimatic is their second best
2017-10-05 23:04
Not even close. Autimatic is the best player.
2017-10-05 23:07
#16
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United States PsychoLogical 
hes inconsistent if you ask me and stewie is an extremely strong fragger if you have been watching C9 matches and his pug matches in esea
2017-10-05 23:08
You looking at pug and streaming is all I need to hear. No offense but no one is questioning his ability to frag. But there are 20 other players with the same exact ability. His gamesense is shit in comparison to other leaders/igl. Not to mention he failed miserably at IGL. So he is a wasted roster spot when you have a fragger like autimatic.
2017-10-05 23:11
would agree with you pre roster move but after the changes stewie has be most consistent performer followed by rush then tarik
2017-10-06 00:02
Too small of a sample set for either of us to be absolutely accurate. But I did look at all of their career ratings. Stewies is the only one that has moved more than +.2 and thats easily attributed to not haviing to IGL anymore. I never said Stewie wasnt an elite fragger. Just not an elite brain.
2017-10-06 00:08
yea i agree with that, for sure think auti is smarter especially factoring igl style if needed
2017-10-06 00:11
+1 Auti used to be sick , but looks like he is inconsistent. Stew is rarely inconsistent so , that makes him better.
2017-10-05 23:08
Because the position he is having to fill. Tarik as IGL sets spots now. Tarik took over all of Stewies entries. Stewie moved over to Autimatics spots. He said it in a interview. Auti is best served as entry one and lurk. He isnt being allowed to do that. Because tarik and stew think they are better than they are.
2017-10-05 23:13
Although Stewie rarely bombs games he also rarely has stand out games. I don't think I've ever seen him get above 30 frags in a 30 round match this year... I think their problem is Tarik being igl. How can someone who can't make correct decisions for himself lead a team... stewie needs to go back to igl, he's a better mind than he is a fragger imo.
2017-10-05 23:29
Tbh FNS is not bad at IGLing. Stew and Tarik are garbage , they are fraggers.. They need real dedicated IGL that gonna learn them and place them at right positions.Look at Gla1ve , Fallen , Karrigan. Im sure there is someone mastermind in lower NA teams , but sadly NA top teams thinks its downgrade to add lower tier player , bcuz they are selfish af ..
2017-10-05 23:33
I agree. I do not think anyone on C9 currently would be a great IGL, I could be wrong but idk. The best IGL in NA is stanislaw imo but he's having great success on Liquid. NA players in general are only in it for the money and fame and want to put in the least amount of time and effort possible to make that happen. When you're making $150k+ a year and getting 100k+ twitter followers and never winning tournaments there's no incentive to win. European players and some South American players have the drive and discipline to study teams and fabricate tactics because they know it will pay off in the long term. Just my 2 cents...
2017-10-05 23:45
#73
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United States Moon1300 
Personally, I think Ska would be the best IGL on Cloud9, due to his experience with the game. Tarik and Stew are just fraggers, not team leaders.
2017-10-06 00:18
He is too much of a introvert imo. These young men need a alpha personality as IGL
2017-10-06 00:20
Agh Stanislaw said that he's not happy to be IGL , because his best role is Lurker and it doesnt work.Imo he's not that gr8 igl , if u put yourself above your teams needs. I admit he had success with OpTic , but then he did nothing in Liquid. Right now imo Nitro is doin it well , but he's pretty unexpirienced.
2017-10-06 00:22
#81
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Hungary SemjenZsolt 
Stan is no longer igl, he was never great in this way. I don't say he was bad at it, but he never made correct preparation for games. His midround calls was fine, he tried to do less mistake, also invented some EU tacs to NA. Overall, he never had a big impact on igl role. Old optic won over astralis anno, becouse nath and mixwell was overperforming and tarik rush were putting a lot of hour to the game/day. Liquid is got better, becouse with -hiko, elige got a bit more space, and also they got twists, who is talented, and usually have a big impact. ( Also the 2 win over sk was under the igl of Nitro.) I can't follow the lower NA scene, but I am sure, there is somewhere a glave or fallen, with the gameknowledge and with/without the fragging ability.
2017-10-06 00:41
Didn't know that, thanks for the info. I'm guessing someone like twistzz or nitro would be current IGL then?
2017-10-06 04:09
#86
NAF | 
United States EZIBP 
ok thirdworlder
2017-10-06 00:53
U could say he is the best player in their team however you can say the same thing about simple, simple is the best player in navi but he destroyed that team, immature players destroy teams.
2017-10-06 01:20
fake flagger spotted, if you were a true german you would never say that. mousz kicked niko and became better, so what you know
2017-10-06 05:58
I love being right. I said C9 would be sh_t and I was right. Immature kids mixed with introverted kids. Stewie is the problem. He is best suited with no input on major decisions.
2017-10-05 22:56
#3
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Brazil RauleS 
I would kick Shitdoodle
2017-10-05 22:59
Yeah ok, kick the AWPer and replace him with who? Semphis? Shazam? Good joke. Just because his team doesn't utilize him correctly doesn't mean he is shit.
2017-10-05 23:22
#5
swag | 
Philippines SwagZero 
Yeah kick Stewie out of Cloud9 so he can replace Stanislaw on Liquid!
2017-10-05 23:00
Kick Stewie, dumb kid no brain.
2017-10-05 23:00
That moment when a kid calls an adult, a kid. Move along child.
2017-10-05 23:07
That moment when an 'adult' gets triggered by being called a kid and makes it a point to say he is an adult. Move along kiddo
2017-10-05 23:15
Using that logic. How triggered do you have to be to respond to someone, not even writing to you...... :) Heres your L, child.
2017-10-05 23:18
What proof do you have that I am a child. Prove it or I’ll kill you.
2017-10-05 23:22
Using that logic, there wouldn't be a single post on HLTV because no thread is subjected towards someone....... Sorry that I triggered you my little manchild :/ but when you do mature into an adult you'll learn that hltv means nothing:)
2017-10-05 23:22
Youre still here kid? Why?
2017-10-05 23:23
Ahhh the typical "I've ran out of things to say" gg little guy
2017-10-05 23:24
That moment you thought you baited an adult in a childish discussion. NT kid. Move along. Or dont and talk to yourself :)
2017-10-05 23:28
That moment when you need an hltv argument to feel better about yourself. GLORIOUS I SAY
2017-10-05 23:35
+1 /end
2017-10-05 23:51
#70
Jame | 
Portugal gazaev 
+1
2017-10-06 00:08
sorry for swe*aring
2017-10-05 23:01
I love being right. I said C9 would be sh_t and I was right. Immature kids mixed with introverted kids. Stewie is the problem. He is best suited with no input on major decisions.I love being right. I said C9 would be sh_t and I was right. Immature kids mixed with introverted kids. Stewie is the problem. He is best suited with no input on major decisions.I love being right. I said C9 would be sh_t and I was right. Immature kids mixed with introverted kids. Stewie is the problem. He is best suited with no input on major decisions.I love being right. I said C9 would be sh_t and I was right. Immature kids mixed with introverted kids. Stewie is the problem. He is best suited with no input on major decisions.I love being right. I said C9 would be sh_t and I was right. Immature kids mixed with introverted kids. Stewie is the problem. He is best suited with no input on major decisions.I love being right. I said C9 would be sh_t and I was right. Immature kids mixed with introverted kids. Stewie is the problem. He is best suited with no input on major decisions.I love being right. I said C9 would be sh_t and I was right. Immature kids mixed with introverted kids. Stewie is the problem. He is best suited with no input on major decisions.I love being right. I said C9 would be sh_t and I was right. Immature kids mixed with introverted kids. Stewie is the problem. He is best suited with no input on major decisions.I love being right. I said C9 would be sh_t and I was right. Immature kids mixed with introverted kids. Stewie is the problem. He is best suited with no input on major decisions.I love being right. I said C9 would be sh_t and I was right. Immature kids mixed with introverted kids. Stewie is the problem. He is best suited with no input on major decisions.
2017-10-05 23:02
He is sick fragger but sadly teams like Fnatic / Cloud9 thinking IGL issa joke and .. well u see the result
2017-10-05 23:06
Exactly. People fail to realize these players are just people. They tilt and get in their minds. Just like average players. Stewie is known for tilting at his teammates. He is too immature. No doubt he is a great fragger. But thats all he is.
2017-10-05 23:09
Sadly they'll wont find better one.. NA IGLs are deficit
2017-10-05 23:21
Its the truth. No one in NA at the pro level is willing to put in the work. ESEA killed NA cs a long time ago. Kids stopped scrimming. They started pugging. Started playing for frags instead of rounds. Average NA player thinks his kill count in a MM game is equivalent to his skill. Its sad.
2017-10-05 23:22
Egh i mean .. everyone underestimate kills as well. Look at faze 4 insane fraggers but they have one great IGL.
2017-10-05 23:29
Thats a different story. Those are very experienced players who have played a multitude of positions on a multitude of teams. They are the outlier. Plus its not like they have all been considered fraggers in their previous teams. Frags dont win games.
2017-10-05 23:34
#79
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Norway insy 
Frags win rounds, and rounds win matches. But it's not always about a player having a huge amount of kills, he can have a different input on the game.
2017-10-06 00:32
i've been saying stewie sucks forever people changed their mind when he started fragging ,but i knew the truth shitty thing is n0thing and shroud got scapegoated who cares about c9 anyway lol
2017-10-05 23:16
Yes they did. Hard.
2017-10-05 23:16
I dont expect casual players to understand the intricacies of how a successful team works. Players who think Stewie is the best player on C9; are the same players baiting their team for frags, because frags equal skill.
2017-10-05 23:16
Stewie autimatic sgares/fns RUSH tarik
2017-10-05 23:16
Ska Steel Nitro Autimatic Elige #1 NA no question.
2017-10-05 23:20
xd Ska #1 pick one Nitr0 is trash steel I guess could be in top team but then they cant be in majors autimatic is washed up elige is good Stewie-AWP sgares/fns-IGL (or steel if they dont care about major spot) RUSH-Entry Twistzz-Support EliGE-Entry or you could just go the better way and take DaZeD Ska AZK swag steel
2017-10-05 23:22
I think the banned kids will be able to play majors soon enough. Ska can be the #1 awp in NA. He has proven he can out awp almost every other AWP pro in the world. Let alone in NA. He is just too passive and refuses to take aggressive angles when he is good enough to. I think Steel would be able to bring that out in him. I agree he is not the best awp in NA right now. But he could be. Nitro is a very good support player. Very good. sgares/fns are both mediocre IGL Rush is barely a support fragger. Now you want him to entry? Tough luck. Twistzz I might interchange with Nitro. Elige. Obvious choice for entry. And auti washed up? What? LOL
2017-10-05 23:27
#30
United States sxg 
First off Tarik is the "most skilled" on c9. Then its auti and stew tied for second. But far as consistent good player who plays hard spots. RUSH is the best.
2017-10-05 23:22
Tarik being the most skilled on ANY team is a detriment to the team. Only the people who watch his stream think he knows what he is doing. Which are casual gamers.
2017-10-05 23:29
#36
eLUSIVE | 
United States mook_ 
2015 c9 best
2017-10-05 23:25
#44
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North America bloodwolf1710 
How are u right? they have been playing well on lan and seem to vbe getting better
2017-10-05 23:35
Their biggest claim to fame on this new roster? Beating new Optic and Navi. Well they did that with the old roster.....
2017-10-05 23:41
#47
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North America bloodwolf1710 
they crushed nip and envy and wen the hell did they beat optic on lan. Plus they havnt played many lans yet
2017-10-05 23:42
Optic was the closed qualifier. Just like all of their matches besides ESL were online. I didnt mean to elude that those were LAN matches. They did crush nip and envy. So did everyone else. They also got crushed by faze and sk on lan. I only mentioned optic and navi because those are the wins of value. Not to mention losing to north. Sk a few more times. Immortals twice. I can go on.
2017-10-05 23:46
#56
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North America bloodwolf1710 
Online means shit bro
2017-10-05 23:51
I can almost guarantee I am the only user writing on this thread that has EVER competed at a real LAN tournament. I certainly know that online isnt a indication of lan results. I mean shit. You read all that and thats your response.... No one said that online means anything, yet you feel the need to state it. Strictly looking at LAN they got SMOKED by faze and the shitty SK.
2017-10-06 00:00
#83
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North America bloodwolf1710 
It seemed to me that u were counting online games way too much. Plus u still have not given this new lineup that much time and it is undeniable that there performance has been getting better and better.
2017-10-06 00:46
Your realize this is an online qualifier why are you say angry buddo?
2017-10-05 23:46
Using YOUR logic. Youre just as mad as me? YOU spent the same amount of time responding as I did making the post. And you actually spent more time because you had to read the post to respond to. Where I just made a post. So let me ask you..... Are you angry because I am right?
2017-10-05 23:48
Are you ok man? Did someone hurt you?
2017-10-05 23:48
Yes. Your parents did. I told them to abort. They wanted to give you a chance :(
2017-10-05 23:53
My parents are good people but they should've aborted me 100%
2017-10-06 01:13
weak b8 try again
2017-10-05 23:46
#53
suNny | 
Vietnam Oida 
Teamknife happened and autimatic playing without Cloud9 clantag! Incoming shuffle! C9 disbands: Stewie to TL, Tarik to SS or team shrood, Autimatic & Rush take time off. NOTE THIS COMMENT IT WILL BECOME TRUE I HAVE INSIDE INFORMATION.
2017-10-05 23:48
#55
chucky | 
Brunei aspexo 
Been telling everyone that stewie2k is as garbage in this game as he is in 1v1 fights irl but no one believed me LUL they always had excuses like stewie can't perform because he has to igl LUL now tarik is in game leading with 2x stewie frags what now trashs LUL you probably like him because he sucks in irl fights just like you
2017-10-05 23:49
They like him because they watch streaming pug games and associate that with skill
2017-10-05 23:52
#59
chucky | 
Brunei aspexo 
I'll stick to the idea that they are 40kg fgts who get bullied in school just like stew
2017-10-05 23:53
Reality is fun my friend.
2017-10-05 23:53
#62
chucky | 
Brunei aspexo 
it is
2017-10-05 23:54
Why you so mad about stew xD what has he ever done to you?
2017-10-05 23:58
#65
s1mple | 
France Selkom 
You wouldn't kick simple in navi so why stewie2k in cloud9 same shit
2017-10-05 23:59
Oh yes I would. They arent the same player btw. s1mple is a better fragger and wants to learn. He is just so immature. Go look at the announcement thread. I am sure I said it was a bad idea there. I constantly said he would ruin their team.
2017-10-06 00:01
#68
s1mple | 
France Selkom 
oh shit
2017-10-06 00:01
#66
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United States mGm0nster 
-stewie +fox ez top 1 np guys problem solved /closed
2017-10-06 00:00
#75
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Spain Ali3nigena 
stewie was a fucking top fragger igl , and now that tarik is the IGL you pull all the shit to him ??? o F OFF
2017-10-06 00:21
#77
oskar | 
Ireland sk0ffin 
honestly the entire C9 squad is a joke, they have no real talent like Liquid does. Twistz and Elige are on an entirely different level compared to the bots of C9
2017-10-06 00:25
#78
roman | 
Palestine ndr[o] 
all kids and beginners are on his jock and can't get enough of love juice because of the shit they see in rank s "hehehehehehehehehehe so hilarious he's so good omg hehehehehehehe"... i gots to agree immature and introverted kiddos don't mix well
2017-10-06 00:27
#80
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Canada Gumpypoo 
lol ur bad
2017-10-06 00:38
I feel like a swap of tarik and stanislaw would be good if c9 doesn't improve in the next 3 months. Tarik is a good player, but he's not an IGL. Stan is known as a good IGL, but nitr0 is the IGL for Liquid now, so Liquid could possibly benefit from swapping stan for tarik.
2017-10-06 00:41
#85
Stewie2K | 
North America Xheng 
"Stupid immature, introvert kids" "I love being right" -Thinking...
2017-10-06 00:52
WTF is your problem, they just lost to a much better team having more than 10 rounds each map.
2017-10-06 00:56
#88
XeqtR | 
Hong Kong wqnxy1 
they shouldnt kick n0thing and should bring sgares not rush or tarik lul
2017-10-06 00:57
I don't think he should be kicked but I do agree he shouldn't have input on big decisions.
2017-10-06 04:19
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