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Stan mentioned bad attitudes in the team in his statement.If you read the whole statement you know for a fact that its not nitr0 and russ because he said specifically that he enjoyed playing with them and hopes to in the future. That leaves jdm and elige but given elige's track record it seems hes still has a bad attitude. stans statement-
2017-11-14 22:46
World Raphe 
none cares na tier3 teams
2017-11-14 22:47
Tier 2*
2017-11-14 22:49
Sf | 
Turkmenistan Autista 
elige looks like albino monkey, he has to be toxic
2017-11-14 22:48
Rofl. His apehead and white fluffy hair is cute tho
2017-11-14 22:54
2017-11-14 23:09
United Kingdom Fizzled 
keylogger lost my chair
2017-11-14 23:44
ok then.
2017-11-14 23:45
France BadGones 
understandable... how many time did elige loose because of stan perf? how many time did elige carried him for nothing? Sure unmature way to react, but understandable.
2017-11-14 22:49
Its not understandable to have now 2 or 3 proven times where he has been toxic in a team
2017-11-14 22:50
well reading this made me think zews is a bit of a bitch
2017-11-14 22:52
yeah i also got that vibe. Its like why even bother getting an igl when ur not gonna let him implement his own system.
2017-11-14 22:53
yeah sad, stan could have worked
2017-11-14 22:54
Brazil dbobz 
I don't know, cause I wasn't there, so I can be wrong on this, but I feel like if Zews was the issue, he would be the one getting kicked, like usually happens with coaches, since it's easier to get a new coach than a new player, from a practice and team chemistry point of view. Also, he wasn't IGLing anymore, so he should just play the calls instead of trying to apply a gamestyle to the team
2017-11-14 23:53
yes well i have no clue, only reading stans words
2017-11-15 00:58
Brazil dbobz 
sure, me too xD maybe stan was wronged in many ways, I wouldn't be surprised I just really hope Zews publish his version so we can cross some info
2017-11-15 01:04
2017-11-15 08:35
Brazil Eneas56 
you've gotta remember that's stan's version of the story
2017-11-14 23:39
yes ofcourse, but from stans perspective he was bitchy
2017-11-15 00:57
Canada Surzz 
makes sense. most likely elige but it could be jdm
2017-11-14 22:53
yeah or it could be both.
2017-11-14 22:56
4sure its not jdm lmfao, jdm himself being a bot wouldnt flame some1 else
2017-11-14 23:48
yeah i doubt its him but ig u never know
2017-11-14 23:49
When he talks about bad attitude inside team I think he means Zews. Such bossy coach is included part of a team.
2017-11-14 23:02
I dont think so. I think he meant a player also.
2017-11-14 23:13
Brazil dbobz 
He is probably mad that elige and jdm supported Zews's ideas about the team, cause Zews wasn't kicked, so he had someone backing his side of the story
2017-11-15 01:07
Brazil Roufas 
Zews might even legit just suck their dicks to hype them up, he does a very good coach job, at least according to Pimp when comparing peacemaker and zews, I remember that interview.
2017-11-14 23:38
Brazil nicknameBR123 
well, you're using troublemaker as a comparison standard so...
2017-11-15 01:32
Brazil Roufas 
Nope, Pimp said peacemaker was a pathological controller while zews lets the players mostly do things they wanted and work on improving their natural talents.
2017-11-15 01:34
Stan was already kicked from Optic, them left them when they were on their best period, already had other ruses. Doesnt strike me as a nice fella, seems really really stubborn.
2017-11-14 23:22
CIS Merlas_mtk 
he wasnt kicked from Optic
2017-11-14 23:25
He was, sort of kicked, they benched him with the intention to kick him, but then reinstated him, google it kiddo.
2017-11-14 23:43
s1mple | 
United Kingdom Twinaye 
they kicked him, i dont blame him.
2017-11-14 23:57
They didn’t kick him. They benched him for tarik but when daps left Stan went back to main roster. But then after eleague he turned his back on optic thus making his nickname snake
2017-11-15 08:58
s1mple | 
United Kingdom Twinaye 
optic turned their backs on him, lmao yall are retarded, cant go benching a guy then later hope he wont leave for a better team.
2017-11-15 18:29
I don't think its elige, he spent almost the entire time talking about zews.
2017-11-14 23:36
North America SweatyBawlz 
I'd be toxic too if i had to play with bots like nitro, stan, and jdm. He's gotten better because at least twistzz is capable of not being shit
2017-11-14 23:40
2017-11-15 00:21
Im dumb
2017-11-15 00:23
Brazil nicknameBR123 
expected from rain
2017-11-15 01:33
of course zews is the problem, he is no peacemaker and the fact they are bringing in a Brazilian player who isn't that good and was the worst player on immortals shows his preference, Liquid needs him and steel gone or they will only sink further
2017-11-15 00:28
I dont think steel is that bad of an addition ,he is pretty much on the same level of fragging as stan but yeah they are gonna remain a shitty team
2017-11-15 01:06
NiKo | 
Montenegro G1EX 
Ofc he is toxic,that's why simple left.Elige was toxic and bullied him,and he had to leave.
2017-11-15 00:33
United Kingdom INGEMARSSON_ 
Lol, elige isn't "toxic"
2017-11-15 01:00
almost clicked
2017-11-15 01:03
United Kingdom INGEMARSSON_ 
100% clicked
2017-11-15 18:27
i didnt actually
2017-11-15 21:10
oh it's already known he's an asshole player. great, but an asshole in game. "oh he's just e m o t i o n a l" since when was emotions more important than us being taught to keep our cool and to be sportsman like?
2017-11-15 01:05
-ska +stan . elige is a toxic little vagina
2017-11-15 01:06
While most people agree that Elige is toxic, Zews is the issue with this team now. The way he controls the players is BS and almost child like. He needs to go.
2017-11-15 01:29
why do you think elige (statistically probably the best NA player) was never picked up by C9 in the many opportunities they had?
2017-11-15 01:32
cadiaN | 
Denmark megz 
Sometimes it's not about a player being toxic or not, it's about that feeling you get when a specific player doesn't live up to his or her potential and because of that, applies shackles to the rest of the team. The result is frustration, and it happens in all sports, on all levels. Now it doesn't necessarily mean that the guy underperforming is the worst player on the team, his underperforming is triggered by something, and it might as well be that he just doesn't fit in, playstyle or personality - both elements are equally important.
2017-11-15 09:16
Turkey emiliosantos 
i don't like elige
2017-11-15 18:29
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