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Germany sryInotspeaklondon 
#1 device: boosting his stats trough eco and bait frags, but has literally no impact in gun rounds #2 happy: always gets the easy frags and leaves the hard work over for his teammates and uses them as bait #3 stewie2k: always makes retarded moves to his own advantages, but to the disadvantages of his team and thats why he often causes lost rounds #4 styko: got and easy role at hr and got a lot of frags, on mouz where he got a harder role, his true skill shows up
2017-11-17 16:44
s1mple, niko, snax
2017-11-17 16:45
yes s1mple is #5, but snax and niko are known for insane carry performances
2017-11-17 16:46
2017-11-17 16:46
Snax | 
Poland Vwash 
I swear you are the only pole i know that hates VP
2017-11-17 16:50
Poland zJe 
Snax is so bad nowadays. Poland Future ~> AGO
2017-11-17 17:06
Austria KnoxtoN 
2017-11-17 17:42
ago is absolute dogshit
2017-11-18 12:14
World Aksel2099 
Just like your country
2017-11-18 12:48
poland lmfao
2017-11-18 12:51
World Aksel2099 
na i'mnot polish
2017-11-18 12:52
nt poorland
2017-11-18 13:09
World Aksel2099 
well i said i'm not polish
2017-11-18 13:44
Ago cannot even make it to the major xD
2017-11-18 15:34
fuck vp
2017-11-17 18:13
He is fakeflagging Russian kid
2017-11-17 19:39
Lithuania IamU 
Lol he says that s1mple is overrated lmao
2017-11-17 17:47
LMAO 0/8 LMAO 0/8 LMAO 0/8
2017-11-17 19:40
Brazil TonimSan 
Snax is a top 10 all time in CS:GO LMAO.
2017-11-18 06:11
coldzera as well but he is still overrated as fuck
2017-11-18 12:56
Brazil TonimSan 
1 and half year without a single negative K/D, including 4 majors and tons of 250k+ tournaments. Highest rated player of 2016, a plethora of individual awards... Cold is not overrated, he is a real beast. NiKo is proving to be in the same league of Cold, while s1mple still has a lot to prove in the tier 1.
2017-11-18 15:25
And thats why he is so overrated. His stats are so flawed.
2017-11-18 15:27
Brazil TonimSan 
It's not about stats, Cold is CSGO in its finest. Positiong, map awareness, aim, teamwork, reliability, clutch skill, plays any role and any weapon...
2017-11-18 15:32
>any role Yeah no and there is the problem.
2017-11-18 15:36
Brazil TonimSan 
Let's fix my post, I don't think Cold can IGL. But the other roles, he can do any of them. In the T-side he can Support, Entry, Second Entry, Lurk and AWP, As CT he can play A or B, he can anchor, AWP, play as rotator...
2017-11-18 15:42
I never saw him entrying. Maybe he is able to be the entry but I am pretty sure he wouldnt br as consistent as he is. Him being 2nd entry/support is letting him playing all the good t-side spots. Also just check coldzera and TACO on CT Inferno. You will see easily why his stats are flawed. Yes he is a top 10 player of all time but saying he is he best/top 3 (yet) is overrating him. fer for example had more impact than him this year.
2017-11-18 15:47
Snax | 
Spain Arzheus 
2017-11-18 10:31
s1mple?!@!?!?!?!?!?!? pls tell me that ure baiting.
2017-11-18 13:12
+1 great post.
2017-11-17 16:46
2017-11-17 16:46
tabsen, happy, shox
2017-11-17 16:46
+1 especially tabsen
2017-11-17 19:32
Happy is not overrated... 2 majors won and he's still insane when he wants to play
2017-11-18 13:42
Brazil oneS2 
snax, shox, kng
2017-11-17 16:47
sodaH | 
Sweden yayer 
kng LUL
2017-11-17 17:30
rain Come at me (:
2017-11-17 16:48
Poland torrmess 
Rain? He is underrated
2017-11-17 16:53
underrated? just no lol...
2017-11-17 16:59
Snajdan | 
New Zealand Ms2Y 
+1 he always have 90+ adr at least this year.
2017-11-17 17:34
United States Top_Ostrich 
2017-11-17 17:50
Not underrated, but overrated. Dont get it wrong, he is great player, easily top10 but there is that 1 thing that annoys me, because its just not truth. Most of the people call him top5 player, even top3 sometimes, some are so delusional that they put him over NiKo as the best player on FaZe.. and u say this about player who is like 7th/8th best player in the world
2017-11-17 17:54
Yeah but stuff like that only comes from braindead hardcore fanboys, every normal CS player knows NiKo is way better than him
2017-11-17 19:33
Brazil TonimSan 
Not "way better", but sure better.
2017-11-18 06:12
I meant at their peak performances, Niko has way more potentional to solo carry a team.
2017-11-18 14:46
Sadly, there is a lot of people like this, people who can see only 1 clutch, 1 map, 1 tournament or they just fancy that playstyle so rain is better in their eyes. Also, that rain hype of how great he is, much greater then he really is, started all the way back in 2015 when he clutched 1v4 against VP on train and 1v5 at Cluj against Envy, thats just irrational and stupid:D
2017-11-18 16:10
L.K.S | 
Turkey xAiakos 
#1 is fucking truee device most overrated player ever not top 20 for me
2017-11-17 16:51
Well u know nothing about CS then
2017-11-17 17:03
name checks out
2017-11-17 17:33
ur mom checks out
2017-11-17 19:29
L.K.S | 
Turkey xAiakos 
u read the fucking "for me" ? its my opinion not ur business
2017-11-17 22:02
such a dumb opinion
2017-11-17 23:32
amk lan
2017-11-17 23:32
L.K.S | 
Turkey xAiakos 
2017-11-18 10:28
Oceania Andrew_Kramer 
2017-11-17 16:52
what????? swag is insane
2017-11-17 17:32
yeah thats why he isnt on any decent team yet
2017-11-17 17:32
b8 or stupid?
2017-11-17 17:36
he got unbanned stupid or stupid?
2017-11-17 17:36
still ban from some competitions, he wasnt ban from all and most good teams already have players under contract
2017-11-17 17:46
only banned from official valve events
2017-11-17 17:51
like majors... so what big team would contract a player that cant play the most important compatition of the year swag would already be in c9 if he could... he already player for c9 this year in summit summer and played very well against SK and NIP
2017-11-17 18:10
btw, even fallen said in summit summer that c9 was very dengerous in that tornament because now they have swag in the line up, and he was the best NA player and fallen already said many times during his streams when he play with or against swag in mm, that swag is the best NA player for me, fallen opinion is enough, even if you dont agree have a good day :)
2017-11-17 18:14
Also Eleague, Epicenter, ECS
2017-11-17 18:20
s1mple Frozen Calyx Shroud Dev1ce
2017-11-17 16:54
Russia AyvaN 
calyx do rly well in last times :\
2017-11-17 17:03
frozen and Calyx are always carrying their shit teams...
2017-11-17 22:07
Brazil MarshalUDT 
2017-11-17 16:56
device is somewhat overrated; i mean he's a world class player, but not top5 material imo, he seems to be quite passive and very reliable. He'd make a superstar support player; if play-makers such as fer or JW were around him he'd be equivalent of krimz (when he was a top3 player in the world).
2017-11-17 16:57
1- tabsen 2- gob b 3- legija 4- nex 5- keev No bug no win LUL
2017-11-17 16:58
Germany VeryNiceGuy #TheCryIsFree #NoBugStillWin #TabsenTheGermanColdzera #KeevTheGermanFallen #LegijaTheGermanFerEcoFraggot Have a nice day! -VeryNiceGuy
2017-11-17 17:10
Brazil pedrohmn 
2017-11-17 17:33
LOL BIG fans are happy when win bo1 in groups SK fans are happy when win trophies and majors :)
2017-11-17 17:34
wow, does it really still hurt so much?
2017-11-17 17:34
do you even know what that word means...? doubt about that
2017-11-17 16:58
2017-11-17 17:00
2017-11-18 07:14
2017-11-18 09:41
2017-11-18 10:01
Mega lul
2017-11-18 10:48
Poland morosek 
Niko Come at me haters
2017-11-17 17:01
fak u
2017-11-17 19:36
Poland morosek 
it's true
2017-11-17 19:37
Serbia wInt3r 
Ehmm no.He is always carried teams that he play in.Faze without NiKo is not Faze.
2017-11-18 11:56
Poland morosek 
And they still achieved nothing. Maybe his frags are not that important?
2017-11-18 12:11
Serbia wInt3r 
VP fangay saying Faze achived nothing. LLULULULULULULLU
2017-11-18 12:50
Serbia wInt3r 
He always carried*
2017-11-18 12:51
African Union BuddDwyer 
aizy, useless since 2015
2017-11-17 17:02
Australia Azula 
Well he's been playing much better recently but he also plays a very supportive role in North so his stats aren't going to be crazy, yet they're still good considering his role.
2017-11-17 17:04
African Union BuddDwyer 
I would be totally okay with him being a support player with average stats if retards wouldnt constantly talk about him being one of the best aimers in the world and calling him a star player
2017-11-17 17:08
KK | 
Denmark s0denone 
Mate Aizy has insane aim, though. He is not always in the best position, but he is really trying. You remember the htc 2v2 tournament where he solo-carried vs people like NiKo and Rain? Aizy is a godlike aimer, just not always godlike decisions ingame :-)
2017-11-17 17:12
African Union BuddDwyer 
yeah he does really well in meaningless matches
2017-11-17 17:23
KK | 
Denmark s0denone 
No, he is just a bit of a choker, I think, and thus can't really be relied on as 1st or 2nd best player in his team. He is like a discount xyp9x atm, but he has much worse spray than xyp (who is one of best sprayers in the world) and worse decisionmaking, but better aim. Obv he will suffer, playing this role - but if you look when he has real aim duels in matches, it doesn't matter who it is against, he ALWAYS has a chance. His aim is nuts, man.
2017-11-17 17:24
African Union BuddDwyer 
and yet if you would ask people who is the better player or aimer out of the two, people would say aizy even though xyp is twice the player aizy is and that is kinda my point
2017-11-17 17:26
KK | 
Denmark s0denone 
aizy IS the better aimer, whereas xyp9x is the better overall player. It's same shit as with Scream. If that guy ever learned to control himself ingame, and not play like a fucking retard half the time, he would be a fucking top 5-10 player. Aizy is genuinely trying to improve upon his intangibles and decisionmaking, but he has a ways to go. Doesn't mean you have to discount his aim because the rest of his game isn't up to snuff.
2017-11-17 17:27
Not overrated, everyone knows he is shit XD
2017-11-18 15:41
Poland zJe 
Bro wtf. U cant say overrated to device. But i agree happy. He is just catching timing. Luckiest guy ever. And agree styko as well. But stewie? Come on
2017-11-17 17:03
Australia Azula 
tabsen swag olof stewie I don't agree with you about device eco-hunting, but he's certainly got less impact with the AWP than he used to when he rifles which is sad, he was my favourite player to watch as a rifler. He's one of the best at getting opening picks with the AWP though. Also the guy hasn't had a rating below 1 at an event until now, he might not always show up as much as he needs to but he certainly never does bad at an event.
2017-11-17 17:06
c9 fanboy hates stew? omg he is absoluteley the best na player in 2017
2017-11-18 09:53
Australia Azula 
I don't hate him, he's just overrated by most C9 fans if we're talking about the best player in NA it's between Twistz and Elige.
2017-11-18 12:23
he can awp he can be igl he has 200iq with smart plays and insane aim compare to elige or twistzz elige cant awp also twistzz cant awp we can call him as top na player and hes not overrated so much he almost always top fragging in his team
2017-11-18 16:15
and hes young like twitstzz and elige they can be better than past just we should know where are their limits
2017-11-18 16:18
lol stewie is shit against tier 1 teams, underwhelming stats, he peeks needlessly and gives away so many frags playing like its a pug.
2017-11-18 16:36
i think the thing why is he overrated is just when i watch him play nowadays i just dont see him doing a big impact like the other players does he is just like the guy that is put into 4v2 and he is gonna find those 2 which are kinda easy and propably any other player on the team would get them while someone like dupreeh made a play earlier to make the round 4v2 just my feeling about device that he is like more stable player now and not that insane guy like half year ago
2017-11-18 13:38
Australia Azula 
I agree he's not as good. He needs to rifle again but I don't think that he's "overrated" people throw around that word too hastily.
2017-11-18 13:40
true definitely not overrated to be somewhere close to the top of the list
2017-11-18 13:43
2017-11-17 17:06
Germany VeryNiceGuy 
#1 fer hes an ecofragger who doesnt get kills in gun rounds and pushes like an idiot! Have a nice day! -VeryNiceGuy
2017-11-17 17:08
Idiot detected
2017-11-17 17:57
agreed with this very nice & smart guy
2017-11-18 11:03
2017-11-17 17:25
Germany peps1mouz 
2017-11-17 17:27
nazi brain
2017-11-17 17:37
Russia AlexMove 
2017-11-17 17:37
i think it is true his showing in mousesports hasnt been good at all
2017-11-18 13:39
France uk_is_my_home 
stewie?? what a joke he carries every game
2017-11-17 17:38
NBK- | 
Europe Totole 
ScreaM probably
2017-11-17 17:40
2017-11-17 17:43
ScreaM = only good aim, no brain.Most overrated player in history.
2017-11-17 17:47
and that makes him overrated?
2017-11-18 11:57
no but some people are overrating him the he is like a very good player but you see him miss many smokes and stuff and he doesnt make any inteligent plays on his own he just needs 5 people running at him and if he is in his moment he is gonna headshot all of them but as a complete player he is definitely one of the worst players on a decent scene
2017-11-18 13:42
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2017-11-18 20:03
1- Device 2- Cajunb 3- Gla1ve 4- Olofmeister 5- NiKo
2017-11-17 17:50
glaive isnt overrated since no one really overrates him
2017-11-17 17:52
it is my opinion, mate.
2017-11-17 17:52
but its a fact. No one says glaive is a good player, so he can't be overrated
2017-11-17 17:53
i've already heard it.
2017-11-17 17:54
No one says that BIG players are good too (it is a fact that they are shit as fuck). So, why didnt you said the same some comments above?
2017-11-17 17:55
tabsen and nex are often considered very good players
2017-11-17 17:56
They arent. Nex top 25-30. Tabsen top 18-20.
2017-11-17 17:58
two danish major winning champs, 3 x world champ Olof Mad no scener xD
2017-11-17 17:55
Olof is shit nowadays. Astralis will not win any champ anymore without rooster changes. Believe me.
2017-11-17 18:00
fer | 
Brazil cadik 
2017-11-17 17:52
"#1 device: boosting his stats trough eco and bait frags, but has literally no impact in gun rounds" Lol go check SK vs Astralis on Krakow again and see if he has no impact
2017-11-17 17:52
Spain Ornitorrinco 
Scream Shitshatriceps
2017-11-17 17:55
You can’t say that happy is overrated because we know he is already bad
2017-11-17 18:00
Japan Balikali 
1º ScreaM 2º ex6tenz 3º rpK 4º kennyS 5º other frech players
2017-11-17 18:05
RpK | 
France xprimental 
Mad cuz no scene?
2017-11-17 19:36
2017-11-17 22:18
Japan Balikali 
No, just saying the truth. france was the old br fans
2017-11-18 05:23
swag he is good, but stupid americanos think that he is a god or something, just good player nothing more
2017-11-17 18:12
doesnt make him overrated
2017-11-18 11:57
2017-11-18 13:15
Who actually rates happy highly?
2017-11-17 19:32
Norway diemoN06 
I agree with everyone except styko and stew.
2017-11-17 19:33
Slovakia ronyES 
2017-11-17 19:35
his showing in mousesports hasnt been good so far i would say he is overrated that much but definitely not underrated
2017-11-18 13:48
swag | 
Brazil Frosthy 
Coldzera, lol this guy just have a good AIM and take obvious kills in sick and noob spots
2017-11-17 19:37
i dont like SK but coldzera is the second brain of the team :D he is the one that helps fallen the most with strats setups and mid round calls
2017-11-18 13:49
swag | 
Brazil Frosthy 
hmm really, I had not thought of that.
2017-11-18 22:26
Device solid top1 flamie just bc he is the most inconsistent player ever Cold NiKo Happy NBK dupreeh
2017-11-17 19:43
Brazil Neegger 
flamie isnt inconsistent flamie is stupid if he gets lucky with timings he kills everybody because godly aim if he doesnt, he gets rekt as usual
2017-11-18 10:41
inocnsistent, stupid whatever mate. He is just massively overrated and he needs to be kicked from Na`Vi.
2017-11-18 11:31
Brazil Neegger 
amen brother, been saying that shit since eleague major
2017-11-18 11:33
2017-11-18 13:14
1 cold = trashzera 2 fer = rushzera 3 fallen = twofacedzera 4 taco = botzera
2017-11-17 22:16
Brazil gamgrave 
mad ?
2017-11-18 13:17
cold is trash, and fer trash too
2017-11-17 23:32
fnx | 
Portugal lovessd 
device dupreeh the 2 usual chokers
2017-11-18 05:38
Olofmeister most overrated ever
2017-11-18 05:58
wtf did u just aaid about device u little piecae of shit go kill urself trash faggot kid sd asd
2017-11-18 06:22
United Kingdom KP995 
scream so overrated
2017-11-18 06:39
fer has alot of impact but his stats are heavily influenced by him getting tons of eco frags, I wouldn't be suprised if he gets like 40% of eco kills in his team.
2017-11-18 06:42
same with xantares. but if a player can get kills against eco and rifle rounds then there is no problem getting eco kills. cuz it gives more confidence
2017-11-18 09:56
Stewie makes retarted moves just so he can make space for his team, to be fair.
2017-11-18 06:43
niko and rain
2017-11-18 09:57
Brazil Neegger 
locker boi
2017-11-18 10:39
Device yes overstated but still good, happy is so underrated!! He is playing amaizng, look at what envy has done recently
2017-11-18 10:41
Coldzera,he always boost his stats on eco rounds,always is last alive player in his team when rest die and gets a lot of exit frags.He is so boring to watch,s1mple is much better but he has shit team,i hope any good team will pick him
2017-11-18 10:46
2017-11-18 13:13
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Portugal ChicoS 
Allu... fails so many easy shots...
2017-11-18 10:53
Poland sitarskee 
i'd say device, adren, coldzera
2017-11-18 12:13
all 4 of these players are beasts in their own right without whom team will collapse. Maybe not styko but rest are
2017-11-18 12:39
Israel asafborger 
2017-11-18 12:44
coldzera, fer, snax, niko can't get why some retards still hyping niko while he can't show anything special.
2017-11-18 13:15
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Poland eMoL1337 
how happy could be overrated if everyone consider him to shit
2017-11-18 13:15
xyp9x olof fer
2017-11-18 13:25
styko is doing well in mousesports... in HR he was openfragger now he is support and he is doing I think more then good job. in mousesports Sunny is the one overrated..... Forgot mention shox, kennys, tabsen, simple Also I dont think Happy is overrated... He is not considered as outstanding player, he is igling and lurking (in his own style...) and overall right now he is doing good job.
2017-11-18 13:53
Morocco Gg2734llolol 
Styko? What... dude is very underrated if anything
2017-11-18 14:07
Brazil Guilherme213 
Fer, only eco frags
2017-11-18 14:12
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Sweden FaZeKennyS 
device is pretty overrated yes
2017-11-18 15:49
2017-11-18 16:14
everyone knows that he has good aim but hes not good player he is not overrated at all nowadays everyone saw shroud keeps underperforming
2017-11-18 16:22
Colombia yvngwonder 
device is the most overrated by far. i see more whiffs than actual hits with the awp alone.
2017-11-18 16:16
#57 and #158 said it all.
2017-11-18 16:18
Coldzera Niko Fallen
2017-11-18 20:04
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