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A Cloud 9 roster change
United States VerySpicyGuy 
If you could take any current player on C9 and replace them with anyone other player in the world to make a potential world class threat. Who would you take for who?
2017-11-18 05:08
KrizzeN | 
United States Trive 
Tarik for hobbit
2017-11-18 05:10
Change the igl for hobbit?
2017-11-18 05:46
Korea KimDahyun 
change the actual best player for Hobbit ?
2017-11-18 09:18
KrizzeN | 
United States Trive 
Hahahahaha best player
2017-11-18 10:06
yea best player for turok
2017-11-18 21:50
tarik is a wildcard. he can be amazing or he can be wildly mediocre
2017-11-18 10:14
Sweden FitDude 
Tarik is a great player, smart aswell. He's to important to c9 atm, since he's the primary IGL.
2017-11-18 15:47
KrizzeN | 
United States Trive 
Smart lol
2017-11-18 21:31
Sweden FitDude 
You listen to thoorin saying he's a peanutbrain? pls
2017-11-18 21:32
bruh how can you contest god thorins comments?? KAPPA
2017-11-18 21:34
he actually is. he does some stupid mistakes like everyone else but it becomes a bigger case when he is doing it because of the peanut meme
2017-11-18 21:42
KrizzeN | 
United States Trive 
No, he’s literally a budget S1mple Do stupid shit but get rewarded because the aim is good
2017-11-19 01:44
Lithuania crittentao 
haha peanut brain meme haHAA
2017-11-18 21:44
chucky | 
Brunei aspexo 
NA world class threat LUL
2017-11-18 05:10
c9 just won against two last major winners, so suck it fag.
2017-11-18 05:12
chucky | 
Brunei aspexo 
<3 stewie2k trash at this game confirmed cbb daunas
2017-11-18 05:17
Just wait for the top 20 players of 2017, I'm willing to bet Stew not only makes the list, but makes top 10 if they continue on the path they're on right now.
2017-11-18 05:45
Coldzera Fer Fallen Adren Kjaerbye Hobbit Rain Niko Kennys Device No chance for stew these 10 players will 100% be above him
2017-11-18 06:26
United States _CMF_ 
how are you gonna say Adren and Hobbit are on there but not stewie when he just man handled them
2017-11-18 06:30
Stewie man handled hobbit? Stewie -6 hobbit +23 nt. Adren got major mvp that alone is more than stewie has and more than likely will achieve this whole year while hobbit has also been a really good player throughout the year. You can say the same about them beating astralis oh yeah just because they win one game stewie should be above device and kjb
2017-11-18 06:38
Gambit is such an outlier having won one event. Maybe you make the argument for Adren, but definitely not hobbit. Astralis' success is mainly within the first few months of the year. We're talking about the entire year of 2017. G2 similarly found the majority of their success very early. Rain really hasn't been the biggest factor on Faze. Olof would definitely be above him. I see Stewie probably making 9th or 10th
2017-11-18 07:51
gambit won a major, cloud9 hasn't won a tier1 event
2017-11-18 08:16
Gambit won with Zeus. How many events have they won since he left? Also not yet, just wait.
2017-11-18 08:17
rankings don't work like that NA Brain
2017-11-18 08:17
How many events did Gambit win before Zeus? How many events did Gambit win after Zeus? You notice how he was a big part of them winning that major. Yeah Adren did good at the event along with Hobbit. But apparently you don't know how rankings work. A god tier performance at 1 event even if it's the major doesn't get you that high of a rank. Every other event those two do decent but not anything like the major
2017-11-18 08:20
"A god tier performance at 1 event even if it's the major doesn't get you that high of a rank." Adren has the major mvp so he will easily be top6 this year And hobbit has been performing so good even in major. And winning a major gets you so high in rankings. Just tell me, what has cloud9 won this year besides tier5 NA Tournaments?
2017-11-18 08:32
tier5? Those events are tier2 and it's more than Gambit's won. I'll agree with you on Adren being ranked high, but not Hobbit. The major is just one event. Stew did good at so many events.
2017-11-18 08:33
so cloud9 2 tier 2events gambit 1 major + 1 tier2 event do you really think that stew will be higher than hobbit?
2017-11-18 08:48
What tier2 event did Gambit win, Also it's not just events won, but placings at big events
2017-11-18 08:52
dh austin teams like g2, immortals, HR, Liquid attending placing good at events won't you get good rankings, only events won
2017-11-18 08:53
But good placements usually means good performance. Most events C9 does well at, Stewie either leads in Kills or is second and close behind autimatic. Lets both come back to this when the rankings come out and see who was right.
2017-11-18 09:09
I'm sorry but you are a bit delusional. Hobbit has been performing way above stew and he is one of the most consistent players in the scene. Adren and Hobbit both achieved more than any cloud9 player did this year. I'm not saying stwie is a bad player and he reallly is a great player but it is almost certain that both hobbit and adren will be ranked higher than stew.
2017-11-18 09:12
As I said in my comment above yours, let's both come back here when ranks come out and see who was right.
2017-11-18 09:14
2017-11-18 09:54
Hatz | 
Korea taun_tatt 
there is no point in aruging with a NA person over a NA player, they pride their players over everyone but infact NA players will achive nothing major in the next couple of years
2017-11-18 15:12
Olof above rain...!? Please
2017-11-18 09:58
Sweden werkaster 
If Stewie ranks higher than Hobbit on any top player list that list is probably made by you. That won't happen. Hobbit is a world class player that won the title as the best rookie in e-sports, ALL of e-sports. Stewie is a good player, but up and down and not someone who actually took his team to big wins (recently).
2017-11-18 12:24
Contradicting yourself, the whole year... Rain has played for faze all year olof hasnt. You cant keep saying said is some mediocre player, he is a consistent player for faze. Im not saying it wont be close but I think rain over Olof due to the second half of the year for rain
2017-11-18 21:54
United States _CMF_ 
gambit was shit before zeus and now after zeus left Astralis hasnt won a tournament in 8 months and poeple still consider them gods its crazy.
2017-11-18 08:56
Both teams won majors this year thus some of their players should definitely be high in the ranking
2017-11-18 12:19
Sweden werkaster 
Gambit won because they had great aimers, Adren, Hobbit and even mou (at that specific time), not because of Zeus as IGL. That myth died pretty soon after he went to NaVi and interviews came out about his legendary IGL calls. It was basically no tactics at all, just screaming at everyone to go A or B. Dosia is calling the same way at the moment and yeah, it looks bad, but that's because all players doesn't fire as hard at the moment. It's about fragging, it's ALL about fragging, in that team at least.
2017-11-18 12:27
United States _CMF_ 
if it was all about fragging then chaning igl wouldnt turn gambit from an insane team to a tier 2 team
2017-11-18 21:57
Sweden werkaster 
I'm not sure it did. After he left they had a few very good results, but the IGL spot is still an issue even if it's about fragging. Adren started out as the new IGL, but his numbers went down so much it wasn't possible. Dosia takes over, and they joked about how simple his calling is, so maybe it's too bad at the moment, but I don't think they need much more. I see Gambit working very much like Fnatic 2016, with flusha calling because he has to and not doing a bad job or an amazing job. The difference is Gambit don't have the same intelligence as the Fnatic players, so it will be harder to get that to work, but they have some insane fraggers that will try to. Replace Dosia with a flusha-like IGL and they are fine.
2017-11-19 12:57
adren has major mvp so he will be at least top6 and hobbit is just a beast
2017-11-18 08:16
Germany r4jzN 
NiKo on 8th place? Bullshit
2017-11-18 08:24
Its not in order
2017-11-18 12:13
Canada RONOK 
Kjaerbye? Sure he has some good plays but he bottoms frags most the time. Probably dupreeh though.
2017-11-18 08:58
He was mvp at the major so he should easily be above stewie
2017-11-18 12:16
Adren, Kjaer and Kenny are not top 10 atm
2017-11-18 10:15
Not saying they are top 10, just that they should be ranked above stew, but kennys should easily be top 10 this year
2017-11-18 12:23
eh i disagree
2017-11-18 12:23
Adren and kjb mvps at majors, kennys 4(?) mvps this year, and stew?
2017-11-18 12:26
to get an mvp you still have to place somewhat high or pretty much win the event so your team needs to play good also. niko just got his first 2 months ago and he's 100% a top 5 player
2017-11-18 12:32
Thats the whole point of the ranking, you cant get ranked high if you solo, just look at niko last year he was only ranked 11
2017-11-18 15:05
No S1mple in top 5 or top 10 brainded
2017-11-18 21:55
2017-11-18 22:21
top 10:D? good one lol
2017-11-18 10:23
damn you are can talk again if c9 will survive the fucking group stage at a major
2017-11-18 10:01
Uruguay quiri 
-felps +Boltz
2017-11-18 05:10
2017-11-18 05:11
Snax | 
United States Freakmode 
-ska +fallen to awp and so tarik doesnt have to igl or +kennyS to awp and let tarik keep igl'ing That or -rush +niko
2017-11-18 05:11
Uruguay quiri 
lol rush is actually the best player in cloud9
2017-11-18 05:16
United States Doge14 
Wot???? Automatic is the most consistent Stewie makes the most big plays So it’s one of those two
2017-11-18 05:23
+1 Rush is underrated as fuck
2017-11-18 15:51
Brazil RauleS 
-shitdoodle + anyone
2017-11-18 05:19
United States STERBENVII 
2017-11-18 05:28
Brazil RauleS 
It would nice. C9 has nice aimers, but sometimes they miss some strats.
2017-11-18 05:32
Brazil Zixye 
- all + Swag
2017-11-18 05:27
Canada Timings 
Yeah swag alone :P
2017-11-18 08:02
Just copy swag four more times, and have him wear masks of the other four guys.
2017-11-18 08:18
United States No5712 
-ska +stan
2017-11-18 05:32
Sweden captain yolo 
- ska + obi wan kenobi
2017-11-18 05:42
How are they not already a threat? They're map pool is perfect for beating Faze, the only issue is Faze has better aim, but strategy can outplay aim. They play well against SK. They're map pool works for Astralis as well. G2 isn't really an issue given that they are struggling right now. Cloud9 is better in terms of the map pool and skill than North. They are world beaters, give them a little bit longer to develop as a team and they might realistically have a shot at the major just like liquid from 2016
2017-11-18 05:43
FaZe has a master strategist in the form of Karrigan whilst Cloud9 has an IGL who has t-shirts making fun of himself (Peanut Brain).
2017-11-18 06:14
"master strategist". Never won a major.
2017-11-18 07:48
Never has ex6tenz, and everyone still hypes him.
2017-11-18 07:57
Everyone still hypes him??? What message boards have you been on? Everyone disowned him like a year ago. Pretty sure it's widely accepted he's not that good anymore.
2017-11-18 08:00
And neither has Tarik so we're all stuck in the same boat.
2017-11-18 15:44
Europe Baitor 
he didn't call tarik a master strategist, you called karrigan a master strategist, your point is invalid
2017-11-18 21:37
I meant he never won a major, so we're stuck in the same boat.
2017-11-18 21:38
Europe Baitor 
the american never said that tarik was a good igl, lmao.
2017-11-18 21:40
"The only issue is Faze has better aim, but strategy can outplay aim" so he's implying that C9 has better strategy than FaZe and who comes up with the strategy for teams? An IGL although then again, he might not think FaZe is that big of a opponent so maybe he still doesn't think Tarik is a good IGL.
2017-11-18 21:42
Europe Baitor 
c9 has a coach, an analyst, and 5 players who can work together tarik is not the sole brains of the operation
2017-11-18 21:43
No of course not the operation, but I'd be willing to say he does the majority of strategy crafting or at the very least half of it.
2017-11-18 21:45
Europe Baitor 
2017-11-18 21:45
I'd be willing to hazard a guess* No proof, just speculation
2017-11-18 21:46
United States Droidd 
-ska +oskar
2017-11-18 05:46
Stewie2K | 
North America Xheng 
No one. They're recently finding stride and you want to change them now? They've been together for roughly 4 months and I say this is great progress.
2017-11-18 06:16
3 months, not 4. Makes their success slightly better even.
2017-11-18 08:00
2017-11-18 06:32
-rush +cold (and give him englando lessons or +pimple
2017-11-18 06:33
United States dougtheduck 
Rush for shroud XD (Actual): Rush for fnx?
2017-11-18 06:34
-rush +swag if he will receive unban on valve tournaments
2017-11-18 07:54
Lithuania dozzah 
2017-11-18 15:20
Mexico romoresp 
-peanut brain +anyone else
2017-11-18 07:57
-Rush + Elige ... Elige can do everything Rush can and more -Skadoodle + Nifty ... Skadoodle is burned out and Nifty is a rising awp talent + IGL This way, the team would have the 3 best NA players (Stewie, Autimatic and Elige), with Nifty as a solid awper and IGL and tarik as a supportive IGL/Lurk.
2017-11-18 08:02
-Rush,Turk,Asian#1,Asian#2,Skatupid +n0thing,seang@res,shroud,swag,Hiko.
2017-11-18 08:17
-shroud +semphis -C9 +coL
2017-11-18 21:46
haha,coL was insanly good team. They always went to semis at majors and was showing a top skill level for 2013 year.
2017-11-19 17:05
Germany Constikdw 
-Ska +Elige and Awp to stewie or tarik
2017-11-18 08:19
2017-11-18 08:41
Jordan human928 
-Rush +Twistzz this guy is a beast for me he is the best na player
2017-11-18 08:54
-rush -tarik -stewie2k -autimatic +dazed +swag +azk +steel
2017-11-18 09:03
2017-11-18 12:33
United States ViKaLiBuR 
-Tarik +NiKo
2017-11-18 10:01
-skanoodle + any decent awper.
2017-11-18 10:01
fnx | 
Estonia PapaJe1s 
-rush +swag
2017-11-18 10:03
Macedonia AstralisGoat 
For sure I would remove Skadoodle and add anyone even Shahzam I mean jesus I get it he's having a decent tournament right now but for most of his career he has been wildly mediocre and not consistent and he's the type of player who has no motivation so you have to push him to even attempt to make a play, main awp in a support role is a tragic thing to see even he himself has given up, he even lets other players take his awp and he goes on rifle & self confidence is for sure very low. He's given up on himself it's pretty obvious, one tournament doesn't change how shockingly bad he's been all of 2017 & 2016, also for Skadoodle fangays out there go have a look at his statistics in majors you would be surprised to find out he has the worst statistics in majors in CS Go history. C9 already shown they are willing to weed out the inconsistent shitters in their lineup (n0thing & shroud) and take risks on other players who don't have as big of names but get the job done way better than the over rated fanboy players. Anyway all I'm saying is now that they are content with their leader, they are playing like a unit, it's not just full out pug CS for them anymore you can tell they are actually putting in effort now, it's time to remove Skadoodle from the team.
2017-11-18 10:34
i arent think thatz
2017-11-18 21:50
-rush +Twistzz or swag if he could play every tournament
2017-11-18 11:42
Poland sitarskee 
Skadoodle for Cerq
2017-11-18 12:14
Sweden werkaster 
Hard to pick only one, I would replace several players, but let's start with -Ska +any decent AWP:er, like Guardian, Draken or maybe even Simple, although he's not a real AWP:er.
2017-11-18 12:21
- RUSH + Elige - autimatic + Twistz Sorry to those guys, they're sick players and all and are doing fine where they are, but Elige and Russ are the two best talents in NA. You can't know until you try because they might not mesh together with tarik, Skadoodle or Stewie at all for all you know.
2017-11-18 12:30
Bulgaria _Hattrick_ 
-RUSH +n0thing EDIT:unfortunately it's impossible l
2017-11-18 12:29
-Skadoodle +JDM/Shazam/Rickeh/Nathe
2017-11-18 21:39
-rush +twistzz
2017-11-18 21:40
-rush +coldzera lmao
2017-11-18 21:43
Any player? then ez. -tarik +FalleN -Skadoodle +kennyS -autimatic +twistzz -RUSH +EliGE -Stewie2k +AdreN AdreN Twistzz EliGE kennyS FalleN -valens +zews(Coach) 100% this team would be top1
2017-11-18 21:52
Russia SP3C73R 
- Skadoodle - RUSH + Nifty + EliGE
2017-11-18 21:48
Kerrigan > Turok ( peanut brain )
2017-11-18 21:52
-Tarik +Fallen
2017-11-18 22:22
Probably just something simple like -Skadoodle +FalleN Solves both the inconsistent AWPer and the IGL issue in one go
2017-11-19 17:10
North America ikskwizit 
-Skadoodle, +Nifty
2017-11-19 17:11
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