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Karrigan haters
Denmark fm100 
So fucking tired of you gold novas ( still playing Mm saying Karrigan is shit. He is fucking the one who is bringing the balance in faze. He is a World class ingame Leader and you are a bashing on him for fucking KD And stop conparing him for fucking TACO Ty
2017-11-20 04:08
#1
Denmark fm100 
Comparing*
2017-11-20 04:09
#11
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India MONKS 
Right but he has to increase his map pool. Mirage, overpass and inferno are his only good maps, 1 more would be great
2017-11-20 04:19
They are good on every map except for cbble. Wtf is wrong with you. It's just that nip was better. Nip would have won both overpass and inferno if they were the deciders, that s how their magic works
2017-11-20 04:32
#30
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India MONKS 
Bro, every map is a decider in a grand final, you can't assume things.
2017-11-20 09:53
if you really think anyone can beat nip in that form you're delusional. but well, they just proved it. i am 100% sure that if the maps were played in a different order nip would still win 3-2 every time
2017-11-20 12:34
#81
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India MONKS 
What about overpass? NiP are in great form though, you're right. Love seeing them play this way.
2017-11-20 15:29
same for overpass, they would rekt rain like they did to fer if it was the decider, i am sure about it
2017-11-20 17:00
#99
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India MONKS 
they lost on purpose?
2017-11-20 17:08
no, it's their mentality.
2017-11-20 17:55
#161
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China ToTheStars 
"if you really think anyone can beat nip in that form you're delusional" sk beat nip on cache in the semifinals lol. don't give me an excuse saying that nip have bad history or wtv cuz they seemed perfectly of winning the decider against faze. just saying
2017-11-21 17:29
well, yes, thanks for proving my point. nip sucked on every map this event and yet didn't lose more than 1 game
2017-11-22 07:37
#100
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United Kingdom iiTrixo 
No they wouldnt have faze are so much better than nip on inferno and overpass
2017-11-20 17:12
they can't beat nip in that form even if they play mirage inferno and ovp in a bo3 it's how it works, especially since nip gave them the dick even on cache which is their most overrated map
2017-11-20 17:57
#119
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United Kingdom iiTrixo 
are you retarded? a bo3 with those maps wouldnt go to third map it would be a quick 2-0 lan or online. NiP clearly cant play mirage as they banned it against faze and they lost inferno and overpass. and it was a bo5 and the k/d ratios just show that either A) NiP clutched alot of rounds or had better team plays
2017-11-20 23:06
2-1
2017-11-21 05:44
#103
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Europe Totole 
no don't be delusional they are absolut trash on cobblestone and nuke
2017-11-20 17:17
You can only garauntee one of those three maps in any series, and you can still lose on them (especially overpass cars SK, Kadri fan has always struggled against fallens teams on overpass)
2017-11-24 04:15
he not even canning speak tongue rightly, lol
2017-11-21 00:12
comparing him to*
2017-11-21 20:08
#2
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Netherlands Tensors 
even though he is the brains behind faze you still expect him to get some frags
2017-11-20 04:10
#122
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United Kingdom AnnoyedAndy 
he could get 0 kills every game for all i care his only goal is that Faze win, if they start losing all the time then you look at roster changes FaZe is still #1
2017-11-20 23:12
not just the fact that he is the brains... but he is the backbone. he made them stabilize. the only reason they have won all the tourneys they have is because of him.
2017-11-20 23:17
#3
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Brazil -ASAP- 
World class igl but he fucked up the calls on this one.Zero gameplan on t side on cache.
2017-11-20 04:11
#12
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United States sku1 
+1 went full retard on t side cache calls
2017-11-20 04:22
Yep i agree on that. But 1 map... 1 fucking map
2017-11-20 04:25
#35
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Brazil -ASAP- 
1 fucking map which cost you the final and a bad map veto, leaving cobblestone in.Would have a better chance on nuke.
2017-11-20 10:18
You have seen NIP on nuke right?
2017-11-20 12:37
#87
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Brazil -ASAP- 
Just because NiP is good on Nuke doesn't mean Faze doesn't have a chance, considering they have played the map in the past, while they never play cobble and always ban it.Better to have even 10% chance of winning than 0.
2017-11-20 16:05
They definetly had a better chance on nuke dont know what iam trying to tell you
2017-11-20 16:13
#59
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Denmark Xipingu 
NiP > FaZe on Nuke lmao, Wtf are you talking about :D
2017-11-20 13:04
#88
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Brazil -ASAP- 
Just because NiP is good on Nuke doesn't mean Faze doesn't have a chance, considering they have played the map in the past, while they never play cobble and always ban it.Better to have even 10% chance of winning than 0.
2017-11-20 16:05
#132
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Denmark Xipingu 
I suppose. But honestly it's still kinda suicide vs NiP - unless you are SK or Astralis, then it can work.
2017-11-21 12:21
ehh.. u dont go for Nuke vs NiP.. are u crazy?
2017-11-20 15:09
#89
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Brazil -ASAP- 
Just because NiP is good on Nuke doesn't mean Faze doesn't have a chance, considering they have played the map in the past, while they never play cobble and always ban it.Better to have even 10% chance of winning than 0.
2017-11-20 16:05
This guy is retarded, Nip is by far the best Nuke team
2017-11-20 15:12
#90
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Brazil -ASAP- 
Just because NiP is good on Nuke doesn't mean Faze doesn't have a chance, considering they have played the map in the past, while they never play cobble and always ban it.Better to have even 10% chance of winning than 0.
2017-11-20 16:05
You have no idea what they prepared whatsoever, Karrigan wouldn't pick it without telling his team and making the necessary preparation. They wanted to surprise Nip, and considering the fact that it's their permaban AND it's a good map for Nip, FaZe did a pretty good job on the map.
2017-11-20 16:11
#96
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Brazil -ASAP- 
Karrigan has said in the past that he leaves cobble in because he expects the other team to ban it.In this case knowing NiP plays cobble he maybe thought because they did good on prac or something they can be good on it.You can clearly see they were no way prepared to play that map.I'm just giving my opinion on what i saw, i don't claim to know if they prepared or not.
2017-11-20 16:16
You claim it cost them the final, everyone else claim they would've lost nuke even more. #Opinions
2017-11-20 17:13
#102
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Brazil -ASAP- 
Yes precisely #opinions.No need to call someone a retard for having one that differs from yours.
2017-11-20 17:15
If someone claims that the sky is purple I would call them a retard as well, some opinions are simply too stupid, sorry to say.
2017-11-20 17:22
#117
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Brazil -ASAP- 
This was far from that, but it is expected and i dont really care, hf.
2017-11-20 22:31
#82
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India MONKS 
Nuke vs NiP is 1-0 to nip without playing, rofl
2017-11-20 15:30
#91
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Brazil -ASAP- 
Just because NiP is good on Nuke doesn't mean Faze doesn't have a chance, considering they have played the map in the past, while they never play cobble and always ban it.Better to have even 10% chance of winning than 0.
2017-11-20 16:06
its like karringan let the star player do they own thing and wating utilities for taking bomb site.
2017-11-24 03:52
#4
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Spain KetKit_ 
so u are saying that an igl with 47 kills in 5 maps +100 rounds its good? patetic
2017-11-20 04:12
Everything is rounded up in kills for you guys. You dont know what really lays behind this guy and how he manage this team. Try kick him. They will run around like chickens
2017-11-20 04:27
#25
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Spain KetKit_ 
lets keep a player with 10 kills per map
2017-11-20 04:31
Omg you are stupid. Wont even try to argue with your MM brain
2017-11-20 04:34
#53
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Finland Karri 
Oh my fucking god you are so autistic XDDDD Yes he is a good IGL on some maps, but he went full retard on cache. By your logic IGL could just afk in spawn as long as he makes good calls. Thats not the case. IGL has to have good enough aim and mechanical skill to carry his own weight atleast. You are proving that u are a fucking moron by using the good old argument "OMG MATCHMAKING BRAIN OMG OMG!!!!" I bet u cant even fucking make it to supreme-global and u blame the system and your mom got you esea a few months ago you fucking moron. Please just shut the fuck up
2017-11-20 12:59
Take it easy. Thank you.
2017-11-20 15:44
Lololo rekt by Jonathan, ur on thin ice MR
2017-11-22 08:31
#60
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Denmark Xipingu 
Look, FaZe without Karrigan as a IGL = no finals. Proven time and time again.
2017-11-20 13:05
pls look up what 'proven' means
2017-11-21 12:34
#139
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Denmark Xipingu 
Nt. The loose style doesn't work, you stupid cow. Without structure which Karrigan brings, FaZe would be all about the loose style, since they would bring in a worse IGL that might be able to frag, sure, but what is frags worth without tactics? No tactics, no finals. It's been the meta for the entirety of 2017, get updated.
2017-11-21 12:36
pls look up what 'proven' means...
2017-11-21 12:38
also lol, what do you mean loose style doesn't work? youre supporting karrigan but don't even know what type of igl he is... (edit- i like how started this with an insult and basically just ended up saying "i don't know anything about what i talk about...)
2017-11-21 12:40
#145
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Denmark Xipingu 
The loose style like Fnatic used before they broke up, obviously... What Karrigan does is a mix of both. I know very well what type of IGL he is lol, he has been on television several times in Denmark telling his story, and in a number of interviews as well. Don't act like you know better. Maybe for you, but I know.
2017-11-21 12:46
lol, i wasn't... you were jesus youre so angry its made you stupid. and i thought "The loose style doesn't work, you stupid cow"... you contradict yourself especially since i thought karrigan wasn't a loose igl... and once again pls look up what proven is...
2017-11-21 13:19
#155
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Denmark Xipingu 
You make zero sense boy. He is using both styles to create a hybrid style, Jesus, do you even watch interviews? He don't want to limit his players doing anything which means he lets them be free to do what they want - but he also draws in tactical aspects that suits that style, which means he creates a hybrid style that will catch many off guard, since it hasn't been initiated successfully very often. I obviously meant the loose style on it's own. There is no contradiction, only bad explanation, which I admit I sometimes happen to do. Sorry men. Stop telling me to look up proven, I know what it means. It's autistic to repeat yourself 400 times - just look it up, bro, it literally takes 2 seconds to find evidence for my claims via Google.
2017-11-21 13:27
i know what it means... (english is my first language) im saying you used it wrong "Proven time and time again." - don't believe this lineup has existed without karrigan.
2017-11-21 13:30
#162
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Denmark Xipingu 
It has not, but any lineup really without him. Even with this lineup, if they didn't have a good IGL like Karrigan, they wouldn't have reached any finals still. 4 superstars is useless if they can't play perfect CS, and perfect CS includes tactics. You can argue they could hire pretty much any IGL since they are willing to spend X amount of money, but I do believe they would have to get a pretty good one to replace Karrigan like Fallen or smth, not any IGL is good enough. Tarik (example) wouldn't work.
2017-11-21 17:30
im not saying they should kick their igl, or that 5 superstars is what they should have... im merely arguing against your use of the word 'proven'... i don't know how/why youre still arguing with me, about shit i haven't said... pls just google 'proven' and you'll see its not (i feel like im not asking much, here: 'demonstrate the truth or existence of (something) by evidence or argument.' now then please provide me evidence of this lineup failing without karrigan)
2017-11-21 18:14
eh
2017-11-22 07:45
i think i managed quite successfully to piss him off, thank you very much.
2017-11-24 03:50
im just replying randomly so my profile gets leveled up lmao
2017-11-24 19:10
#194
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Denmark Xipingu 
Just go back in history mate. All you need to do is listen to what Olof, Guardian and Niko has said. They all say that they trust in Karrigan because he's a really good tactician. It's also proven through results that Olof and Guardian especially in the latter years after 2015 (Guardian kinda peaked in 2016, but still) needs to be lead correctly in order to be effective. Niko is kinda meh, but leading him means more effective fragging, contra Mouz where he couldn't do shit with 4 bots. I don't know why you insist on the word proven when all you need is to google a bit, it's pretty easy. Interviews left and right. Now we're at it, it's clear to me you are just a Karrigan hater, so you'll never see the truth. That's your loss :)
2017-11-24 03:45
lol you really missed the beat... im an msl hater, karrigans been top 3 igl for me since dignitas... im just failing to see the evidence of when olof, guardian, rain and niko failed without him.
2017-11-24 03:50
#199
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Denmark Xipingu 
Everyone hates MSL, no surprise. Bald failure. All of them except Rain has said they needed a good IGL to perform. That's the point. Which means the evidence is clear that without, they would kinda just go around doing their thing without a bigger picture to connect, just like the old FaZe lineups.
2017-11-24 03:51
never said they wouldn't... i just said you didnt have evidence.
2017-11-24 03:52
as far as i can tell, you've spent this entire time assuming what i do and do not know, and what my opinions are.
2017-11-24 03:53
also, ive seen plenty of interviews with karrigan (he's one of my favourite players) i didnt comment because i have a problem with karrigan (though he does have some massive flaws and brain farts). i commented because of your incorrect use of 'proven', as i said below.
2017-11-21 13:32
and maybe just blind fagboy...
2017-11-21 13:19
also can you point out when i said 'a loose style works'...? id find it very interesting if you could.
2017-11-21 13:24
#156
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Denmark Xipingu 
You clearly had a problem with it since you commented. Without Karrigan they would be running a loose style, which was the point.
2017-11-21 13:28
no i had a problem with you being incorrect about the concept of facts.
2017-11-21 13:30
#160
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Denmark Xipingu 
Then show me when FaZe was in any finals before Karrigan, including the former G2 team which was later formed as FaZe. Pls. It has to be more than 3 times to be relevant.
2017-11-21 17:27
don't believe this lineup has existed without karrigan.
2017-11-21 18:12
#193
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Denmark Xipingu 
Irrelevant. The old FaZe lineup with Allu and Kio started to perform slightly better after picking up Karrigan, where they started going deeper into tournaments than just the group stages again and again. This lineup though wouldn't either, Guardian needs leadership, Olof in general needs someone to call because he can't himself, Niko shouldn't ever call (starplayers with such a talent would be wasted doing IGL), and Rain could I guess, but would be stupid to waste his clutch and high impact power on having to use brain power IGL'ing as well. That means they have to get a high profile IGL better than Karrigan, which consists of small choices like Fallen, Stanislaw (limited what he can do better), Glaive, etc.
2017-11-24 03:41
its not irrelevant, and we will never 100% PROVEN know unless karrigan is not on the team. 100% facts scientific
2017-11-24 03:58
#210
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Denmark Xipingu 
W/e. I know they wouldn’t.
2017-11-25 01:58
thank you for being one of the few people that understands what a word means. I get kinda frustrated when i clearly tell people to look up a word they poorly use, but they just get very angry and started typing a fiery rebuttal.
2017-11-24 03:57
we live in an interesting age, where people have forgotten a most basic necessity for communication is for words to have an agreed upon meaning, and these meanings can be found in the dictionary, not whatever comes to your head.
2017-11-24 03:58
#5
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United States sku1 
Not gonna lie, Karrigan's performance lost FaZe the finals but he isn't anywhere near a "bad player or igl" he just had a bad tournament thats all. He did really good in Eleague grand final and he just needs to be more consistent.
2017-11-20 04:12
Karrigan isn't a good player by any means.
2017-11-20 10:04
#52
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Denmark ardes 
Well, he isn't a great aimer, but he sure is a great in-game leader.
2017-11-20 12:57
Yeah that's why Astralis kicked him, right?
2017-11-20 13:00
#56
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Denmark ardes 
Astralis kicked him, because they lost trust in his calls.
2017-11-20 13:01
#61
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Denmark Xipingu 
Yeah so what if Astralis kicked him? He didnt fit in with that team. You think any player fits with any team or what? L m a o
2017-11-20 13:07
They kicked him as they wanted more structure than what he provided. His loose style of calling fits a team of superstars perfectly, giving them a lot of responsibility. If you brought in a type like Fallen or Gla1ve, it could easily create a lot of tension which will eventually be the doom of the team.
2017-11-21 00:27
forgot to reply with this to whatever you kept saying before in your obsessive depression. sad
2017-11-21 12:37
You are a strange fella, trying to impose shit upon people you communicate with on the internet. You will get exactly the same in return, sadly.
2017-11-21 20:04
ur fucking delusional if u dont think this loss aint karrigans fault -38 and the way he calls under presure today was so fucking bad that yes a mm player would have had better calls, fucking danish pleb
2017-11-20 04:13
Haha a fucking retard just like you. The calls today was bad i agree. But how about the other tournaments (french pleb)
2017-11-20 04:29
if u can read ive only stated things from today wich made him a useless IGL i dont care about any other touney. and lets face it he is the most carried player out there atm as he only do good on 1 map and its mirage, and when it goes so far that u have -38 in a fucking bo5 with bad calls he deserves shit and the loss was on him end of story
2017-11-20 10:47
1. Most carried player ATM is TACO. but that is another story 2. If they kick him they wont go anywhere cuz they need him 3. Look at G2 hahahahaahahahahahahha. They even said them self they need Structure and balance. Just what karrigan makes. So pls pack your shit up Faze need him, he played bad but does not deserve that amount of hate
2017-11-20 12:40
#170
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France NeoNIcoN 
How is karrigan making balance ? Faze is a skill based team, and he lowers the skill of the team cause bad fragger That’s how he balances the team cause igl is useless for them and he is not that good anyway
2017-11-22 08:06
Listen G2 guy. You realize what NBK just said right. We do agree they are bunch of aimers and skilled players "we need structure and balance" just what karrigan brings. Faze would not be anything without him. /close
2017-11-22 11:14
#190
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France NeoNIcoN 
How is Karrigan bringing that ?
2017-11-22 18:14
#62
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Denmark Xipingu 
Yes a shitty average MM player (even 90% of all globals ffs are shit) would bring better structure and balance than Karrigan does to FaZe. Holy shit you are retarded. How to know nothing about CS, great job baguette
2017-11-20 13:09
IM TALKING ABOUT 1 TOURNAMENT READ fucking retard
2017-11-20 13:48
#131
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Denmark Xipingu 
That doesn't change that your comment is wrong, you stupid fuck. Use common sense instead of whatever you Frenchies use.
2017-11-21 12:19
what? im just stating the facts. and that ur to invalid to understand isnt my problem
2017-11-22 13:28
#196
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Denmark Xipingu 
Yeah facts that doesn't matter in the big picture. You're telling me that no one can have a bad performance ever in a video game? One tournament. Gotta say, if you want to make invalid points, at least try to make it about something relevant.
2017-11-24 03:48
#118
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United States ItsImpact 
It was karrigan fault to an extent but if u look at guns Karrigan always will give the other players the rifle and he will take the smg because he knows his team is better with it than him. If he didn’t sacrifice his own guns than he would’ve done slightly better in the tournament
2017-11-20 22:37
#171
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France NeoNIcoN 
You have some of the best SMG players in the world, how is it a good call to not count on that and overall lowering the firepower of the team in those rounds ? Karrigan with smg instead of Niko for example is basically playing the round 4v5 when niko Is the s good as most other players with rifle when he is on SMG
2017-11-22 08:11
+1 Giving the weaker gun to the better player helps the team in two different ways. It improves their chances of winning the round, and in your example it would allow for the stronger player to potentially gain some significant cash with the SMG.
2017-11-22 08:56
#183
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France NeoNIcoN 
Yeah and it also keep a better firepower balance in the team. Niko with SMG is allmost as good as any opponent with rifle while Karrigan with Rifle can bring alot more than with SMG. + Karrigan with Rifle can support the SMG player better than he would with the SMG himself I dont see the logic there. And certainly not the excuse to have so bad ratings.
2017-11-22 09:16
#7
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Canada PyroOOF 
He is a great player, just had a really poor series, it happens but this was honestly the worst time for it to happen. You can't be averaging <10 kills per map in a grand final, that's extremely poor.
2017-11-20 04:13
It is. Everybody fails.
2017-11-20 04:30
He isn't a great player. His average rating is something like 0.95
2017-11-20 10:05
Another KD slave HE IS IGL He brings structure and balance when do you guys get it.. jesus
2017-11-20 12:44
#74
Dezca | 
Canada PyroOOF 
Today in "People who don't understand CS roles".
2017-11-20 14:14
#8
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Germany Jpanthr 
+100 you are correct fm100
2017-11-20 04:13
Ty
2017-11-20 04:31
#9
shox | 
France jadonP 
karrigans fault they lost
2017-11-20 04:15
Probably tonight on that cache game yeah. But what about the other tournaments?
2017-11-20 04:31
#31
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Slovakia ypsylonnn 
Probably on the whole bo5
2017-11-20 10:03
#63
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Denmark Xipingu 
Lol no xD
2017-11-20 13:10
correct but karrigan cost them the final map no arguments...hope they sharpen up for blast series
2017-11-20 04:16
Yep he did because there... let me say.. 1 time i saw karrigan break. They where just running around like chickens
2017-11-20 04:32
#13
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Norway duffz00r 
There's no hate, just famous robot's talking in this thread. Karrigan is love, but he's not TerminatorX. #Equal #cakes n ruff life' #Oakland straight up.
2017-11-20 04:23
#14
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United Kingdom Newm1 
All teams or players have bad games , I don't have a favourite team so there is no bias in this . Imagine when you play sometimes you have awful shit games. Now imagine playing against god like players having the pressure of leading your team and the pressure of it being a final, sometimes you have to empathise with the player and imagine it from his view.
2017-11-20 04:23
Karrigan brings so much to faze and is the reason that they are good as they are but he honestly did lose the last map for faze he whiffed so many easy sprays in key moments
2017-11-20 04:27
Agree
2017-11-20 04:32
#172
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France NeoNIcoN 
Don’t you think that firepower is why they are good ? How dellusionnal
2017-11-22 08:14
That's FaZe fans, one bad performance and you'll be crucified. karrigan is a great IGL and he has his good games as well. This was just a bad tournament for him, poor fragging and poor calling, especially on NiP's picks and the decider.
2017-11-20 04:28
#21
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United Kingdom Newm1 
+1
2017-11-20 04:30
#135
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Denmark Xipingu 
+1
2017-11-21 12:31
+1 people on hltv dont know what goes on but likes to think so
2017-11-22 08:36
Flag checks out
2017-11-20 04:29
#80
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Finland TuoPPi 
jepjep
2017-11-20 15:19
He'll be the next one to get kicked.
2017-11-20 10:05
No he wont. you guys just dont understand because you play MM and dont know shit
2017-11-20 12:47
Link ur steam
2017-11-22 08:37
why should i link my steam lol
2017-11-22 11:16
Hello George!
2017-11-20 23:13
#36
ANa | 
Turkey Kumay 
"He is fucking the one who is bringing the balance in faze" Who is he fucking exactly? i tink we got something interesting here xd
2017-11-20 10:21
karrigan noob who cant aim and cant igl
2017-11-20 10:22
another MM player
2017-11-20 12:47
expected from DK
2017-11-20 15:06
#64
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Denmark Xipingu 
Silver detected.
2017-11-20 13:10
expected from DK
2017-11-20 15:06
#133
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Denmark Xipingu 
Expected from BRA71L.
2017-11-21 12:22
nt asstralis fanboy sk>asstralis
2017-11-21 13:06
#147
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Denmark Xipingu 
Wow, the typical 12 year old monkey answer when all else fails. Sorry bro, doesn't work. Enjoy being silver :)
2017-11-21 13:08
#149
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Denmark Xipingu 
Also, tell me how FaZe wins ESL NY and ELEAGUE Premier without Karrigan? Can't? Understandable, have a nice day.
2017-11-21 13:11
han er jo bare en fucking abe
2017-11-20 15:10
#134
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Denmark Xipingu 
+1
2017-11-21 12:22
47 - 85 sry, but that ratio is not good enough
2017-11-20 10:25
no it was horrible but blame him for one series out of so many. He made faze great and there is no discussion. Without him they will run around like chickens. Just like G2 or optic
2017-11-20 12:48
#40
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Sweden lawflezz 
karigan trash worst igl should kill himself
2017-11-20 10:50
#49
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United States FaZeMeister 
Calm down there buddy
2017-11-20 12:50
#66
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Denmark Xipingu 
Good luck with karma dude
2017-11-20 13:11
#47
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Brazil SUVAKO 
sk has taco and faze has karrigan, every team needs a bot
2017-11-20 12:47
#50
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United States FaZeMeister 
Yes karrigan is a great igl who has won faze their past tournaments through his team structure and calls but this BO5 was a huge fuckup imo and a window into how faze can’t beat sk as well. 1. Karrigan fucked up the veto should have vetoed cbble and taken a chance on Nuke. I get nip is great on Nuke but ffs why play your permaban and guarantee nip a 1-0 start. 2. -38 Frags in BO5 3. Those t side calls on cache made me lose brain cells
2017-11-20 12:53
that is so true my freind. Could not describe it better. 1 series but he does not deserve all this hate ( he did poorly not to mistake me)
2017-11-20 13:01
And btw the nuke point. Huge fuckup to not ban your permaban
2017-11-20 13:01
+1
2017-11-20 12:56
#58
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Sweden PyjamasKING 
world class IGL who crumbles in big games. who only needs to use a loose style on faze due to the individual skill and still fails, lets be honest a coach could do this job on faze, they would be better with a less tactical but a better fragging IGL as they won't be playing 4vs5 every game.
2017-11-20 13:03
#65
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Finland xcel 
Karrigan is just a decent igl with best players in the world around him. When he first came to Faze he got way too much credit for their success, any decent igl would have done the same to the team with 4 great players in it, especially after Niko joined in. He only provides decent strats with shit fragging power and bad mid round calls.
2017-11-20 13:11
#67
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Denmark Xipingu 
It’s sad he crumbled for this matchup but he is indeed not deservant of the hate. He has done well in so many other tourneys. +1 sir
2017-11-20 13:12
karrigan is a honeymoon caller, faze only relying on individual skill, they dont have a go back execute, nothing innovative. I havent seen a nice execute from faze since karrigan is the IGL, even with the old lineup incl. kio and allu there was nothing.
2017-11-20 13:14
#69
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Sweden mixlax 
Xizt had -34, not that much better by NIPs IGL. Also Karrigan made a descent team with Allu and Kio as well. IMO he is a good IGL that could be better at fragging, but there is only one Fallen.
2017-11-20 13:26
#70
swag | 
United States ToastyTW 
FaZe's T-Side performance is the reason why they lost the Grand Final. Yes, all the idiots are still idiots, but Karrigan's lack of effectiveness on his T-Side calling is the reason why they fell. So, in conclusion, Karrigan lost the final for FaZe yes, but HLTV users are also still retarded.
2017-11-20 13:29
+1 most rounds dat Faze wins was 2v3 clutch and one 2v4.He needs to improve his stats
2017-11-20 15:48
At the moment Robban would perform as good as Karrigan. The only reason why Karrigan is still on faze is that there is not better options available.
2017-11-20 13:32
#72
fnx | 
Brazil kimuraNTC 
-karrigan +Taco in FAZE -Taco +Fnx in SK #sktop1 #fazetop10
2017-11-20 13:35
i was playing faceit with karrigan... he lose game for me 4;15... and only baiting kills
2017-11-20 15:31
#85
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Germany Tunio 
So whos to blame
2017-11-20 15:48
So fucking tired of you gold novas ( still playing Mm saying Karrigan is shit. He is fucking the one who is bringing the balance in faze. He is a World class ingame Leader and you are a bashing on him for fucking KD And stop conparing him for fucking TACO Ty
2017-11-20 16:06
#174
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France NeoNIcoN 
Taco dip sent desservento be compared to him
2017-11-22 08:20
karrigan, fallen and gla1ve > abism > rest of igls #thecryisfree
2017-11-20 16:06
#136
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Denmark Xipingu 
Try telling that to autistic win-or-fuck-off-fans like the majority of the FaZe and G2 fanbase.
2017-11-21 12:32
Karrigan is a shit player, even since TSM he is shit. He is the reason FaZe lost.
2017-11-21 12:35
#141
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Denmark Xipingu 
That tournament, sure. Look back at ESL New York and ELAGUE Premier, they wouldn't have won that without him. Even the players has said the same, namely Olofmeister.
2017-11-21 12:38
#175
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France NeoNIcoN 
You’re really delusional if you think they wouldn’t have won those tournaments without him Most of the more crucial maps got won because of sick individual performances
2017-11-22 08:21
#195
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Denmark Xipingu 
You call me delusional, yet expect them to win all that in the same manner without a top IGL. Because we see how that has worked for other teams, amirite? Yep, thought so :) A+ for effort though.
2017-11-24 03:46
#213
NiKo | 
Argentina Focusinb 
ty manito
2017-11-25 02:40
I normally defend him but he is the reason FaZe lost cache, he choked hard defending A site and calling retakes then proceeded to call the shittiest strats on T side. bad calls in 2 maps and awful fragging the whole series
2017-11-20 16:16
#104
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Estonia MeX7 
All members from Faze are really top 20 players. Just need some more time
2017-11-20 17:17
#106
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Serbia wInt3r 
karrigan is not,not even considered and nobody really considering him in top 20 and that is my opinion to.
2017-11-20 17:32
#109
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Poland morosek 
we're not in 2016, karringan need to play more or go
2017-11-20 17:58
#110
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Serbia wInt3r 
well same goes for TAZ... I am not trying to insult you I am just curious do you think TAZ should left to?
2017-11-20 18:02
#176
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France NeoNIcoN 
It’s totally different because VP works since the beginning as a whole 5 men squad You can’t compare that to a team changing players every 6 monthes with big dollars Which is anyway the biggest problem. No team spirit when players of like VP would die for each other’s And they comparaison with Taz is interesting. They had only on big performance this year since major and it’s the exact tournament where Taz stepped up. Rest of the year, he wasn’t doing better than Karrigan does lately, both as IGL and player, and VP was bad
2017-11-22 08:27
#111
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Serbia wInt3r 
He is never best,just soild sometimes.They lost this game because of him.
2017-11-20 18:03
+1
2017-11-20 18:04
#113
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Sweden Daquan 
he brought balance to astralis choke
2017-11-20 18:06
#114
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Slovakia AdorrioN 
he is not very good aimer but look on his 1v4 clutch on Cache, insane. Also, watch Get Right's reaction
2017-11-20 18:11
#114
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Slovakia AdorrioN 
he is not very good aimer but look on his 1v4 clutch on Cache, insane. Also, watch Get Right's reaction
2017-11-20 18:11
Absolutely Yes
2017-11-20 18:12
#120
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Hungary WolfITW 
they see only the stats
2017-11-20 23:09
Agreeded fuck he boi
2017-11-20 23:10
karrigan showed up very late. Just in the match point. That 1v4 is probably his best play so far. He had a bad tournament but doesn't deserve this hate. Nowadays people underrate karrigan just because thay have 4 mad fraggers. Without him FaZe would not even be top 10. I hope FaZe do better at EPL and ECS.
2017-11-20 23:19
#212
NiKo | 
Argentina Focusinb 
+10 karrigan is very good player just lacks a little more skill and adapt nothing more
2017-11-25 02:36
#127
flusha | 
Sweden D1SCO8 
Karrigan is decent, and he is right they need him to balance things out. However, Karrigan has enormous trouble when he get stuck... Gobb is to me the best IGL and would do a better job. Im pretty sure that if Gobb was igl for Faze, they would win more.. Becasue he know this game probably better then anyone else.
2017-11-21 00:19
So fucking tired of you gold novas ( still playing Mm saying TACO is shit. He is fucking the one who is bringing the balance in SK. He is a World class ingame Leader and you are a bashing on him for fucking KD And stop conparing him for fucking Karrigan Ty
2017-11-21 05:47
TACO>Karrigan
2017-11-21 12:39
#148
flusha | 
Denmark siger- 
Then, you should start watching faze ! Their gamestyle is horrible. No teamplay. So bad tactically
2017-11-21 13:11
Are you kidding me? Ever seen SK playing? That's bad teamplay.
2017-11-22 09:24
Karrigan is embarassing for Denmark csgo
2017-11-21 13:22
#166
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United States Top_Ostrich 
whoa whoa whoa. don't hate on MM. karrigan needs to work on faze more but mm has nothing to do with this
2017-11-21 20:06
I love him. He is basically the only educated person in the entire scene.
2017-11-22 08:18
#178
REZ | 
Sweden Sk1fch 
EZ
2017-11-22 08:32
Karrigan has been pretty bad on alot of tournaments lol not just one
2017-11-22 08:41
#184
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France NeoNIcoN 
Peple says he had one bad map against NiP in this tournament. But what about the game vs G2, where they got ultra dominated in Rifle rounds ? Versus the team with worst IGL in the world RN. What about the stomp by Gambit ? On mirage nonetheless What about the loss to VP at Epicenter ? And i dont even speak of online games. But you're all delusional if you think these losses aren't because of an average IGL at best.
2017-11-22 09:23
Honestly, Karrigan is pretty confident and knows what he is doing all the time. He only lacks skill at CSGO, nothing more. Taco lacks every single thing.
2017-11-22 09:24
+1
2017-11-22 18:18
lets be fair here, not many plans stand up to get right getting a 180degree double and staying alive, not many plans stand up to forest's headshots, not many plans stand up to xizt being sharp as a surgical scalpel, picking up doubles and triples in clutches. Any one of the three can make it hard on a igl, and nip was doing one, two, or all three in rounds on every map. The maps that Faze won were filled with kills through the smoke and just insane personal contributions, usually teams break to the pressure of karrigans set up, but nip has special players, and instead pressured Faze into needing fantastical showings to stay in rounds. How many deag HS multikill rounds did Faze need to pull out? I saw so many deag headshots from rain and niko, and guardian doing work as well. This wasnt Karrigan losing them the game, this was Nip taking it, and there is a big difference.
2017-11-22 18:30
Man pro/semi-pro community people who know how teamwork works they never blame karrigan for some shitty k/d Only dumb/ jealous people are hating him :)
2017-11-24 03:57
they wont rest until faze buys fallen
2017-11-24 04:24
#211
NiKo | 
Argentina Focusinb 
he only needs more skill in the game and will raise his stats in time not all of us get used to the game fast.
2017-11-25 02:30
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