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HLTV Ranking System Biased
United States poocrafter2 
C9 gets 3-4th at Oakland +22 points NIP win Oakland +343 points I'm sorry but winning a tier 1 event and getting 3-4th should not be that drastically separate. Either C9 should have been given more points or NIP should have been given less. By HLTV's logic what NIP did is 15.5 times greater than what C9 did. The difference in points for these results should no more be separated than by 4-5 times as many points.
2017-11-21 01:19
2017-11-21 01:20
Sweden 4Sweeeden 
Giving NIP 343 points was overkill AF lol. Sure, 150-170 points, but 343 is insane, you get less if you win a fucking major.
2017-11-21 01:20
Exactly. After Gambit won the major they got 315 points. Which is still a little absurd, but at least it's the major. This was a tier 1 tournament and NIP got more points for winning it.
2017-11-21 01:31
A t1 tournament for $100k nonetheless. The point system does have its issues. One of them being giving a team max points just because someone else isn't dominating. Look at Sks run at #1 and you will see what I mean. Later half of this year they were not winning anything, yet consistently got the max value points for lan because nobody was consistently dominating and thus being #1. Yet they went out in groups or quarter finals several times in a row.
2017-11-21 06:01
Germany Merkelistan 
It's nothing new that hltv ranking system is utter garbage
2017-11-21 01:21
SK lost points, so it probably is because of form and the other small factors, etc Otherwise, most teams probably lost points because of point decay whilst NiP had nothing to lose
2017-11-21 01:23
Switzerland BottomFragger 
yep. also, SK gets to semis, FaZe to finals, suddenly >100 points difference? it's just a 250k tournament, it shouldn't upset an entire ranking order
2017-11-21 01:30
nip beat sk and faze and were much lower in ranking than C9.
2017-11-21 01:34
At the major, Gambit beat G2 in a stomp, VP, and Astralis and only got 315 points. At oakland, NIP beats SK barely in a BO3 and beats Faze barely in a BO5 and gets 343 points.
2017-11-21 01:40
France t3r4byt3 
When you say "barely", it sounds ridiculous. Nobody cares about how close a series was, as long the team got the win. Additionally, Gambit beat VP and G2 in bo1s, and they beat Astralis in a bo3. Pre-Major rankings had VP at #15, G2 at #4 and Astralis at #3. NiP defeated SK at #1 in a bo3 and FaZe at #2 in a bo5. They also beat world number #3 and #7 in the group stage in bo1s. Now a Major is supposed to have greater weighting than a tier 1, $250k event so you do have a point, but NiP's map and series wins were infinitely more impressive than Gambit's.
2017-11-21 05:36
United States jcv999 
2017 and people still don't know how htlv ranking works. Maybe find out before complaining
2017-11-21 01:36
So you're claiming that winning an event is 15 times greater than getting 3-4th?
2017-11-21 01:38
United States jcv999 
The world ranking is based on teams' achievements over the past year (with severe decay in points throughout each month), recent form over the last 2 months and performance at the last 10 LAN events. It is also based on the strength of other teams at the tournament.
2017-11-21 01:40
I realize that, but C9 has had better results especially recently so there's no comparison there. And again 1st 15 times > than 3-4th? Nope. Even with their decay there is no valid justification for C9 getting 22 points and NIP 343 points.
2017-11-21 01:43
United States jcv999 
Because C9 was much higher in the rankings. They are closer to the other teams' points and thus will earn fewer points. Nip was much lower in the rankings and was expected to not go as far. Nip have also had very weak lan showings recently that have dragged down their score. Also, how can a mathematical formula be biased?
2017-11-21 01:45
Then please explain to me how Gambit got 315 points for winning a major when they were in an even worse position than NIP, but NIP gets 343 for winning not a major. Plus it's not an automatic system that inputs scores. It's someones job to do it.
2017-11-21 05:17
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Brazil ezSK 
Because gambit had to defeat fnatic,immortals and astralis out of them only astralis was in top3 with 3rd rank. NiP defeated sk and faze who are top 1 and top 2.
2017-11-21 05:26
Canada Number1F1fan 
I a FaZe fan agree with an sk fan for once WHAT!? This is record breaking people will remember this day in history
2017-11-21 06:16
Finland AxaFin 
2017-11-21 05:19
+1 C9 TOP1 #godimatic #cryisfree #RUNC9
2017-11-21 05:20
Brazil hugoooo 
I think it is because NiP beat: the top1 (at time) on a bo3 the top2 (at time) on a bo5 the top3 on a bo1 Still, I would love an explanation of HLTV crew on how points are given.
2017-11-21 05:51
nip got so many points cuz they werent even expected at this tournament lmao also they got extra point for lucky match against astralis and sk there is also extra point for teams that have more fans than opponent add to this that tournament was in NA where everything is weird NiP sucks so they need a lot of points Nip magic r EZ
2017-11-21 05:54
This ranking sucks
2017-11-21 06:25
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