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Norway Heavon Atheist: "..It just jumps in" (About energy when there's NOTHING) Muslim: "God exists" (Using the atheists logic) Atheist: "No". Atheists always put up a good laugh in discussions.
2017-11-23 05:21
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United States deadass 
noone knows how the universe started /close
2017-11-23 05:28
Sweden 1nc0g 
how can something exist without it being created?
2017-11-23 05:29
ropz | 
United States deadass 
what? i didnt say the universe wasnt created, im saying noone knows how it was created. and also if god created the universe, who created god?
2017-11-23 05:31
Sweden 1nc0g 
im not a priest, i dont know
2017-11-23 05:31
Finland ingg 
2017-11-23 05:45
United States $hemlenie69 
0/8 ferGOD top 1
2017-11-23 06:00
Sweden 1nc0g 
2017-11-23 06:00
United States $hemlenie69 
0/8 ferGOD top 1
2017-11-23 06:02
Sweden 1nc0g 
ur just mad cuz nip #1
2017-11-23 06:03
United States $hemlenie69 
0/8 ferGOD top 1
2017-11-23 06:03
0/8 ferGOD top 1
2017-11-23 14:21
Sweden Dino1 
0/8 ferGOD top 1
2017-11-23 15:58
2017-11-23 16:36
0/8 ferGOD top 1
2017-11-25 18:49
2017-11-23 06:08
you think priests know? no one knows. the universe could have just existed for an infinite amount of time, meaning it was never created in the first place. to some extent i agree with both people in the video but i don't like it when they say it is certain because NO ONE has the answer.
2017-11-23 15:52
exactly if I say 'i can fly' then im the one who has to proof it, not the one who denies it
2017-11-30 13:13
Denmark FrostyJKP 
but then who created the universe... and who created the creator of the universe. Btw im Atheist
2017-11-30 14:28
you missed my point. there is no right answer, just believe whatever suits you and maybe in 1000 years if humanity is still alive we will find out the origin of the universe then.
2017-11-30 14:34
Poland morosek 
His parents in the mcdonald's bathroom
2017-11-23 09:21
Finland NUCL3AR 
2017-11-23 12:50
We all know that the universe was just a school projct for god and their are hundreds of others duhhhh
2017-11-23 15:12
United States B0bbutttoast 
How does god exist if he/she/it didn't get created?
2017-11-23 06:51
Italy marxie 
Nothing is created nothing is destroyed but everything is transformed
2017-11-23 08:06
Yugoslavia HLTV_BOSS 
energy is everything.
2017-11-23 15:14
How does something appear out of nothing? An equal part something and anti-something appear out of nothing. Put them together and they cancel each other out. It's the same principle as money. How do you create a monetary system out of nothing? You create credit and an equal part debt. Put them together and they total zero.
2017-11-23 08:45
shox | 
Canada dB- 
Then you can apply that to god itself. How can god exist without being created? Then who created the god's god? Then who created the god's god's god? and so on. Just skip all these stupid steps, the uni/multiverse might just have always existed
2017-11-23 12:52
Sweden aer1aL 
"Might just have always existed" That's how God works anyways dude, he existed all the time. Nothing created it, the uni/multiverse can't be infinite. Something must've created it but then you go to the fact that "Who created the thing that created the unive/multiverse" it's just an endless loophole.
2017-11-23 13:55
2017-11-23 15:08
Nifty | 
Hungary Baliz 
You know inteligent atheists doesan't say that the world wasen't created. They only say that religions are bullshit.
2017-11-23 16:22
Canada NutSac 
who created the creator? and who created the creator of creator? and it goes on
2017-11-23 16:31
rain | 
United Kingdom jun3z 
so... God was created how?
2017-11-23 18:34
Poland woss 
Then how can god exist without being created? :)
2017-11-27 17:59
Well if you used you're brain then a plausible circumstance that lead to the creation of the universe would have been a universe existing before this one which shrunk infinitely small and then suddenly burst and led to what we know today. But like all other religious people you're brain is too small to comprehend it so you resort to imaginary people.
2017-11-30 13:36
What are you talking about? Its pretty much confirmed big bang started it all. Cuz almost every galaxy in the universe is going away from us. That means that universe is expanding.Go back far enough, and there was a moment when all the matter in the Universe was packed into a point and expanded outwards.
2017-11-23 07:25
smart comment on hltv? gtfo. god exist. pray for france
2017-11-23 07:41
no its not confirmed and can never be proven nor disproven. thats why its a theory and most people believe it because we base that and proved many other things and keep believing until theres some conflict. but this is from scientific point of view.
2017-11-23 07:48
Sweden jackir 
actually we have confirmed gravitational waves and the background radiation makes sense as the big bang started, we have it proven already jsut religious nutjobs like you stopping people from learning
2017-11-23 12:22
never said i only believe religion. i believe parts of religion and parts of science. If you really think that big bang THEORY is fact and proven, then you have no idea about what you are talking. bbt is used to prove some other behaviours which doesnt make it a fact. thats the best theory we have right now. even that cannot explain everything in observable universe forget about the universe beyond
2017-11-23 12:56
Sweden jackir 
yes it cannot explain it, yet. and while you literally cannot prove god the bbt is not only provable but we can see what effects it would have that would be visible if it were as we described it, and we are finding some of these things you cannot believe in religion and at the same time believe in science without being a hypocrite or on certain points simple ignoring the science, religion does not explain anything but science will in the end explain everything
2017-11-24 10:26
bbt is not provable it is model based on observations, so it cannot prove what happened in past but it can only predict which doesnt mean its true. ofcourse we can believe in both science and religion which are not contradictory. how can science explain birth of universe or before that when science itself is based completely on observations(which means we have to observer things and make some predictions on past). i believe science in microscopic level such as medicines, tech, etc but at macroscopic level when comparing to birth of universe science makes as little sense as religion. Science doesnt aim to prove everything but only to find out and form some basis why the things are happening the way they are, to explain how nature works again based on theories. Science can be assumed to be true as long as it proves things based completely on observations, experiments. But when we talk about something which we cannot observe which happened in past, then only theories can try to explain it and can never be proved to be true.
2017-11-24 10:47 I leave it here, sry 4 English, my old blog
2017-11-23 07:33
2017-11-23 15:19
Reunion Usoso 
atheism is the refusal to believe in the supernatural regardless of the huge amount of evidence for it
2017-11-23 05:29
Sweden 1nc0g 
being atheist is now being ablt to walk up the basement stairs cause mommy has fed you too many hot pockets
2017-11-23 05:32
0 evidence
2017-11-23 05:40
No. Atheism is a lack in a belief in gods due to being no good evidence of their existence.
2017-11-23 05:48
Reunion Usoso 
wrong... plenty of evidence only blind fools who cant see
2017-11-23 05:48
shox | 
Canada dB- 
>huge amount of evidence 0/8 b8
2017-11-23 12:53
"huge amount of evidence" religion doesn't work with evidence and facts only with faith and belief
2017-11-23 15:57
'huge amount of evidence' ... tell me about your 'evidence' m8
2017-11-30 13:28
Sweden 1nc0g 
being anything but christian is retarded
2017-11-23 05:30
being anything but pastafarian is retarded, and that is a fact
2017-11-23 07:21
Japan GR8B8M8IR888 
2017-11-23 07:28
shox | 
Canada dB- 
+1 christianity is fucking retarded pastafarianism is the only 1 true religion
2017-11-23 12:53
2017-11-27 18:01
Tacka Herren ty han är god
2017-11-30 14:00
Russia Jovik 
God beliebers are tier 2 people comparing to atheist, highly intelligent people find it hard to make a foolish person understand. Weak and vulnerable people need a fake help from above, a little prayer and the problem is solved. Fairy tales might never end (if you will have faith in God, parents might say).
2017-11-23 05:31
Reunion Usoso 
better then athiests thinking that "science" will be able to solve every problem and make them like gods. a delusion
2017-11-23 05:34
If it eases your worried mind, go with it. Any help is worthy believing if it really helps, no? I have invented my own God, we live in the world agree and no one gets in between. What is the name of your God? Person might have their own Lord since there's none official.
2017-11-23 05:35
"since there's none official." Again, hypocrisy.
2017-11-23 05:36
What's his name? Jewza? Allah? Buddha? Get along, my God's name is Bruh. He's cool and he's the Lord of Wind and Breathe!
2017-11-23 06:27
I called hypocrisy because I assume you're not an atheists and you have no clue about the beginning of universe and have no clue wherever a god exists or not. But assume with certainty the latter DOES not exist judging by the last statement I quoted in #10.
2017-11-23 06:32
Nobody has no clue whether it's real or not. So let's play with it. What will he do? Punish us? So that will be the proof? If not, we ARE the Gods of what we own.
2017-11-23 06:34
Saying nobody has no clue is being ignorant. So you're ignorant AND hypocrite. At least some athiests just are honest and say "I don't know" not "There's no such thing for sure" or "NOBODY knows"-crap.
2017-11-23 06:49
Do you know? Has God sent you back down on Earth to shed a light on what's going on? Yeah. Exactly. Be quiet my faithful buddy and say a prayer for me, I might go to hell but I don't want to. Or you may kill yourself and prove me wrong if there's a bearded guy up above. But there won't be nobody, you've died in vain.
2017-11-23 06:51
No, but Abrahamic religions has stories of prophets that claims that God talked to them etc...? But saying for certanity NOBODY knows, IT'S NOT true is pure ignorance and it's against science even. So you're basically a tool who just assume things.
2017-11-23 06:53
Exactly what I said. NOBODY knows it. NOBODY can assure anybody whether it's true or not. You can't be sure in such things. Humanity and faith goes in parallel lines, some people decide to get along with it and some people may cross the lines and go their own way. Believe if you want but don't laugh at atheists, who at this point are much smarter than outdated believers. 2017 since Jesus and still counting, when will he show himself? He doesn't care about you and there's no one there to care.
2017-11-23 06:55
Oh God here we go again with NOBODY. A kid in HLTV claims this where even atheist scholars only go as far as to say "we don't know". Atheists much smarter? If you take a step back and look from the 3rd'll be laughing at them when they utter bs arguements such as you AND the ones in the video. It's laughable
2017-11-23 06:57
They're equally right and wrong. Nobody knows for sure to claim it true or false. Your obsession with it makes me wonder that such people still exist, interesting. What's your religion? Does it allow you to talk shit in the web? Can't you eat pork? The grass is greener if you're religious? Tell me a story, interesting one. Where has God came from? Has he always been there? Like, eternity? Who created the God? Had he created himself on their own? Who his parents was? When he was born? Answer some questions and then you can argue about 'NOBODY knows' for actually NOBODY knows it.
2017-11-23 07:01
"They're equally right and wrong" < The heck does this even mean? "Nobody knows for sure to claim it true or false." Uh yes, the prophets if supposedly they were "prophets of God" and God talked to them - then they surely would know it, wouldn't they? It's not an obession, I just want you to dimiss that kind of thought of "It doesn't seem logical that someone knows about this for me, SO for sure nobody else know this too" I refuse to answer questions about God cuz you're claiming "nobody knows".
2017-11-23 07:07
You can't answer them anyways. What kind of prophets are you talking about? Messiah? Don't make me laugh even more. Some kind of sect? Let me join? I'm a virgin, might be useful! Nobody knows and nobody will until he himself, his majesty will come down and wreck us all for countless sins. I might be first but you are up there in line too. Prepare the ass. There's no God and even if there is, he acts like a coward and hides behind the clouds. It sounds even more foolish than I could expect. Keep believing, who stops you? Don't mess around with intelligent people for your own safety.
2017-11-23 07:10
So know you're denying these persons (prophets) even existed? Are you mental? Have you read history? False, somebody might or might not know, and it still doesn't mean that NOBODY knows. How retarded can you be to not understand this already? Ofc the answers to those questions are actually PRETTY simple because I'm smart and you're not so smart FOR asking those type of questions. IF I answered those questions, I would prove that you're not smart at all, in fact. So simple answers that if you had normal functioning brain and a bit of science knowledge - would be able to answer them yourself without needing to be a believer.
2017-11-23 07:15
You could have started with the fact that you can't answer any of my question and keep going your way. I don't laugh at you though it's hard but I think the way you were brought up is the thing to blame. Where have your parents been? You grew up on your own? I guess just for balance, there might be smart and foolish people. Balance, you know.
2017-11-23 07:25
Basically even if I didn't know I would link you videos and stuff to show you. But I don't need to search for anything to answer those logical questions rofl. But I don't see the need to answer all of them because what do i have to gain from wasting my time with you? I'm 100% sure you don't even care about them as all the other atheists that asked about these questions before. Just wasted my time and plus you are jumping ahead, we first wanted to discuss the beginning of the universe and potentially its Creator - NOT this creators attributes and origin. The fact that you just jumped into those kind of questions just show you you don't give a f about them but just killing time. How am I brought up lol? Wtf u know about me? Again assumption beyond limits, you need to read more and less video games that makes you think you know stuff lol.
2017-11-23 07:31
You're right, I don't care. Have a little respect from me to have a little understanding of what's going on. And if you're serious with your religious passion, have my respect for it too. I'm just the other type of person. Culture, art, that's what God for me.
2017-11-23 07:33 The guy in glasses is you
2017-11-23 07:41
Got no time for it. I've started playing. It was.. kind of nice..? I guess. But enough.
2017-11-23 07:44
why? he is just brainwashed hard. like 70% ppl according to statistics. stop it. u cant give him a book of the quantum physics or theory of evolution.
2017-11-23 07:48
He sincerely believes in what he's talking about it and tries to defend it the way he can. That's what I have a respect for. I don't agree with him about his beliefs, it's unknown but I tend to think we're alone here.
2017-11-23 08:35
respect is shit, specially respect peson who renounces simple facts and common sense.
2017-11-23 08:49
Respect is what makes you an intelligent person. If you're not able to respect one another, you're not the one they should care about. Saying briefly, it's a game of give and take. You should if you want to be treated equally.
2017-11-23 12:33
yes, but u need to merit a respect. imo
2017-11-23 12:37
Not always that plain. You should be able to see some things that are worth for a man to be respected. He shouldn't be a hero or extraordinary man to gain someone's respect. Just be a good man. Nowadays it's equal to achievement, you know.
2017-11-23 12:39
yea, kinda true. mb iam not that "good"
2017-11-23 12:42
You're good enough. You don't follow the common sense and not bait or troll around all the time. I respect you for that. You're being serioues and honest to me. Good one.
2017-11-23 12:43
ty, gl irl
2017-11-23 12:49
Guys, i will start with this: Jesus loves all of you and he wants you to be saved. But he is not forcing anyone to believe. You have got the evidence, the Bible says that the evidence is seen in the things which are created thats why noone will be excused on the judgement day. Even though you think it is only for poor guys who needs some help from above, it is not. A lot of famous people and scientists bielieve in God. For example Newton said: „As a blind man has no idea of colors, so have we no idea of the manner by which the all-wise God perceives and understands all things.“ John 3, 16: For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. God loves everyone. His son died for our sins, and we can be saved only through bielieve in Him. But you have the right to choose. I wanted to find another quote from Newton, but i couldnt find it, but there he was saying something like this: When we see the distance between the Earth and Sun and how perfectly is everything set, then there must be God.
2017-11-23 08:53
Why are you building your argument on prophets? Who says they were not mental, have they had 1 evidence that proofs something they say about their god?
2017-11-23 09:26
you've mistaken atheism and agnosticism at least 3 times so far. how about educate yourself before jumping into a "discussion" that you're not giving any value whatsoever with your constant rambling...
2017-11-23 08:57
Sweden jackir 
saying there is none official isnt really hypocrisy, just that it isn't vetted enough to be generally accepted yet also energy is everywhere. literally everything changes between energy and matter as energy cannot be destroyed or created
2017-11-23 12:30
religious ppl talking about hypocrisy lmao the irony
2017-11-23 16:01
+1 x 1000
2017-11-23 06:09
God in 2k17 LuL go radicalize im taking away your religious freedom 3spooky5me
2017-11-23 05:36
So you agree with the atheist? LUL braindead 10IQ atheists think they actually are smart. Facepalm.
2017-11-23 05:37
Reported. You are attacking my religious freedom invading my safe space. GET HIM JONATHANN UMmm no all I said said was "God in 2k17 LuL go radicalize im taking away your religious freedom 3spooky5me" but when you get the chance, take a shower, i can smell your acne from here ^_^ goodnight 2 u
2017-11-23 05:42
United States $hemlenie69 
wow. this is the shittiest post ive seen ever rofl. u must be fat and/or ugly irl.
2017-11-23 06:02
2017-11-23 17:39
United States $hemlenie69 
0/8 ferGOD top 1
2017-11-24 02:54
Australia BlooDx 
Why the fuck do they have to fat or ugly irl? Are you fucking retarded you stick, and there is no proof at all that god exists, the only you thing you believers show as "evidence" is a book from 2000 years ago farmers wrote while they were bored. It's exactly like saying dragons exist.
2017-11-26 04:29
United States $hemlenie69 
and who are u? 0/8 ferGOD top 1
2017-11-27 01:09
Australia BlooDx 
Are you fucking retarded you fucking 11 year old piece of shit
2017-11-27 06:33
United States $hemlenie69 
BlooDx Id 930549 Signed up 2017-09-09 Country AustraliaAustralia Age 12 -10000/8 ferGOD top 1
2017-11-27 07:29
Australia BlooDx 
Are you fucking retarded you fucking fucking 11 year old piece of shit, it's a fucking meme.
2017-11-27 13:04
United States $hemlenie69 
-100000000000000000000000000/8 ferGOD top 1
2017-11-28 04:32
Hunter | 
Canada PyroOOF 
Obviously no one knows anything for sure. But most religions have flaws in their logic. Christianity has several flaws and contradictions for example.
2017-11-23 05:41
God is real because I read it in a book LUL
2017-11-23 05:43
World locky0000 
+1 my god is the only real god, because i was born _______
2017-11-23 05:46
2017-11-23 18:39
Universe just "jumped" into existence rather than someone creating it IS a better one ;)
2017-11-23 06:05
Our understanding of the universe is not sufficient to explain this and perhaps our base units that we base science on is not enough to explain several questions. That doesn't mean that there is a god who answers all questions we have, that would be a primitive and lazy solution. Considering all possibilities and the vastness of the universe, believing in god cuz of a holy book is pretty retarded in my opinion.
2017-11-23 06:10
The scientific methods/tool used to for research is and probably will never be enough/right to measure beyond anything our universe. Even if it was, you're basically gambling with your life. You choose not to believe in a creator that created the universe (which is million times more logical than it happening by chance) - then believe based on absolutely nothing at all. Gratz. "Considering all possibilities and the vastness of the universe, believing in god cuz of a holy book is pretty retarded in my opinion." We're clearly talking about BEFORE the universe, why are you writing this retarded stuff as the possibilities or w/e of the universe??
2017-11-23 06:15
Dude? You are believing in a god because there is no explanation for your questions. There for sure is an explanation that we haven't yet found out or maybe we will never will. Still, I think that believing in a holy creator is an easy and unsupported explanation to what we can not comprehend. Also you make too bold claims in a subject that you most probably aren't an expert. "The scientific methods used for research is and probably never enough..." How the fuck can you know? "million times more logical.." There you go again splattering useless numbers, such a childish way of trying to make a point.
2017-11-23 06:26
The scientific methods used for research is and probably never enough..." How the fuck can you know? I said PROBABLY, so learn to read. Also how the fuck do you think we can measure things beyond this enormous existence? We humans have limits, do you know that rofl? Just search on google yourself about this topic, basically the chance is 0, because the universe show to has order & rules/laws that hints to superintelligence designer.
2017-11-23 06:45
whatever the fuck bro
2017-11-23 06:50
oh yes, a mythical being is far more logical than an increase in entropy
2017-11-23 06:34
There's 2 possibilites: either it came from nothing or someone/something created it. If you believe it happened by chance then read above #56, you're basically holding onto your hope/belief that the odds were something like 0.(almost infinite 0's)1. While it being created is more rashional to think as everything else around we know of is created and don't just "pop" out from "nothing". Bye
2017-11-23 06:48
thank you for demonstrating your lack of understanding on the subject
2017-11-23 07:47
Why do you end your comments with a "bye"? I thought you made this thread to discuss these things openly, but somehow the argument is supposed to end after you get to say what you had to say? We don't know whether god exists. Why should we believe he exists? What am I going to gain if I choose to believe in God? What are others going to gain? Should I believe in God because it's rational (what makes it rational?)? What happens if I choose to believe in the wrong thing? What difference will it make? Creationism and God can't be applied to every day life other than to give psychological relief. Prayers have no effect on anything. Science, on the other hand, is used everywhere. It's basically how we're having this discussion in the first place. There's no concrete evidence for an intelligence creator. There is however a lot of evidence for the big bang theory, which is why it can be called a "theory" in the first place. It's likely not perfect, it might even be completely wrong, but it certainly makes sense in a lot of ways, and again, there's a lot of evidence supporting it. Science never says things just "pop out of nowhere". That's not science. Believing that God isn't a proper explanation to things is in my opinion much more beneficial to everyone. I'm waiting to hear why you think people should choose God and who it will benefit
2017-11-23 10:27
Lmao, u so dumb.. 15 years ago nobody thought smartphones we're possible. Now we are closer than ever in achieving true AI As soon as we get really close to that the world is going to boom so fast that ur fat discredulous ass will turn inside out and outside in and you're going to collapse into a black hole causing the whole universe to be sucked inside your rectum
2017-11-23 12:38
0/8 how was that 'someone' created then checkmate
2017-11-23 06:13
How do you know that creation, time, space, scientific laws that we know of today applies on anything BEYOND our universe? LUL flawed logic
2017-11-23 06:17
How do you know that there is nothing beyond our universe LUL
2017-11-23 06:26
...Did I say that? Dear God, I knew I shouldn't have started with you after I read "0/8". Bye
2017-11-23 06:23
Ok I misread that, but you cannot deny the existence of a 'someone' is questionable, considering that you do not know of his origin. Also there's no evidence that those laws aren't applicable there beyond our universe since we can't even find a way out if there is. Anyway if there was a god, who cares since he left a lot of people to suffer in this world LUL. if you're a troll i'm fine with that, fun talking with you. bye
2017-11-23 06:31
Germany DieS0nne 
everytime religious people try to explain something in a rational way i cringe so hard
2017-11-23 15:04
Yeah because universe popping into existence coming from nothingess is clearly more rational, nice brain
2017-11-23 15:09
World locky0000 
"When someone disagrees with us or somehow makes our life difficult, remember that it’s often not about us. It may be about their pain or struggle or whatever they’re going through. Give them the benefit of the doubt." practice what you preach? or do you choose the path of the hypocrite, like every blind believer.
2017-11-23 18:57
the beginning is the big bang if there was a creator behind him the same logic would apply, who created god? i rather say the umiverse was created by a thing/object than a being
2017-11-23 16:09
World locky0000 
2017-11-23 18:57
Portugal R0cketOG 
Religion on HLTV. Bad b8.
2017-11-23 05:56
f0rest | 
Russia goodjob 
being religious in 2k17 OMEGALUL
2017-11-23 06:09
Latvia ProfileName69 
Only true god FerGOD top1
2017-11-23 06:09
United States $hemlenie69 
2017-11-23 06:12
Brazil nomurway 
2017-11-23 06:26
2017-11-23 16:10
GuardiaN | 
India wakar 
Only XGOD is real GOD I was an athiest before I knew about XGOD Now I am his priest
2017-11-23 06:14
2017-11-24 04:16
Brazil nomurway 
Ok so if you God exist why he doesn't kill me bcause I hate my life
2017-11-23 06:26
just keep on praying because according to believers your just pray and shit happens ya know
2017-11-23 06:29
United States gtmaniacmda 
pray to Kim Jong Un to nuke the world
2017-11-23 06:39
pray for Donald "The God" Trump will destroy that nerd
2017-11-23 06:44
He is leaving that for you to do.
2017-11-23 15:16
he is very busy not existing
2017-11-23 16:11
Hey, I just became a Muslim. Where do I get my spellbook and wand?
2017-11-23 06:39
AZK | 
North America KeiKei 
makeshift bomb and walkie talkie
2017-11-23 06:50
Sorry mate,you first need level 10 .
2017-11-23 06:58
sXe | 
Russia Duzzle 
to belive in god in 21 century. lol
2017-11-23 07:05
To believe the universe just "popped" out from NOTHINGESSS in 21st century. MEGALOL
2017-11-23 07:07
Austria L1GHT_ 
Why does everyone think that Atheists believe it just popped out?
2017-11-23 07:25
You can play with words however you want but that's basically the CORE concept of atheists beliefs of the creation. Like I mentioned in some of these comments: There's ONLY 2 alternatives - Came about from nothing - Created by something
2017-11-23 07:33
mrvnNN | 
Czech Republic stinx 
2017-11-23 09:15
2017-11-30 13:26
First, Atheism is not based on anything regarding the beginning of the universe, and it's not based on any specific concept of creation either. It's simply the rejection of the claim "some kind of divinity exists". For example you can find atheists who believe that something created the universe, even if it's not a divinity, you can find atheists who believe that the universe was always there or that it formed naturally, or whatever else. You can also find atheists who do not believe anything about what happened before the universe, if anything happened at all, because such belief is not required to reach atheism. "Like I mentioned in some of these comments: There's ONLY 2 alternatives - Came about from nothing - Created by something" No, stating that there could only be 2 alternatives about an event when you have absolutely no direct knowledge of the event is not only pretentious but also irrational.
2017-11-30 13:47
Japan GR8B8M8IR888 
2017-11-23 07:37
sXe | 
Russia Duzzle 
To believe god just "popped" out from NOTHINGESSS and after do our world. OMEGALOL
2017-11-24 04:13
???? retard ???? who says atheists believe the universe popped out of nothingness? Obviously something happened that triggered it, and most likely is that we either 1. are in a computer simulation 2. higher dimensional beings created our universe 3. god farted into his roomates lighter
2017-11-28 04:50
Austria L1GHT_ 
spread your cancer somewhere else
2017-11-23 07:10
What about this is cancer?
2017-11-23 07:15
Austria L1GHT_ 
Believing in something that doesn't exist (at least we don't know, we have no proof)
2017-11-23 07:17
What an awful contradicting statement. Holy...You're dumb.
2017-11-23 07:18
Austria L1GHT_ 
Maybe I'm dumb, but not dumb enough to believe something cause it's written in da book lol
2017-11-23 07:20
Yep, doesn't matter, if you don't believe #76 proves you're a dumb person. For you to understand why read #79
2017-11-23 07:21
Austria L1GHT_ 
I know it was stupid I'm tired lol should have written that it's stupid to believe in something that we don't know if it even exists
2017-11-23 07:25
We don't know whether God exists, but you choose to believe he exists. I'm sure that's what he meant to say. There's no contradiction there, if you don't disregard what he said in the brackets. Sure, keep calling him a dumb person.
2017-11-23 10:04
albanian 10 iq go kill yourself for faggot allah
2017-11-23 07:29
2017-11-23 10:12
wtf, prejudice cuz he is Albanian?!?!?! IQ -2224 , nice edecation criple!
2017-11-23 15:18
don't cry plz
2017-11-23 18:32
not crying, laughing!
2017-11-23 18:33
2017-11-23 18:35
2017-11-23 07:30
what a noob. Maybe you cannot proove it? A bacteria can come to life, live and die on your skin without knowing what you are. It doesnt have not a tiny sense of what you are, what are your capabilities.... dont be so stupid SWE
2017-11-23 15:20
Austria L1GHT_ 
Nice one
2017-11-23 07:40
ty, but old
2017-11-23 07:40
Strings | 
Canada 74xx 
god exists his name is NiKo
2017-11-23 08:03
I take big bang as a theory. You take god as a fact. /close
2017-11-23 08:03
big bang is not just a theory anymore , its a fact , you can actually see it with your own eyes ( the afterglow of it ) if you can zoom enough into the space. they did it already. but i appreciate your skepticism.
2017-11-23 12:44
No matter what i will always take it as a theory. I don't think anyone can say for sure what happened billions years ago. Not in this generation at least.
2017-11-23 12:53
the whole universe works on the same laws as we do here on earth , because we are part of the unverse aswell. so if you understand the laws wich govern our world , you can apply them on the larger scale , because they are truly universal. that is the goal of science and thats what we did. so there is no fear to beleive it, because the way that big bang is explained its in perfect armony with the same laws that govern us , its nothing science fictional
2017-11-23 13:00
Physic laws can be wrong tho'.
2017-11-23 13:43
if you look around you , everything built from scratch using these laws by humans, i'd say they are pretty damn valid. ofc they can be wrong but atm is all we have.
2017-11-23 14:56 Still, one new discovery can change all the laws we currently know.
2017-11-23 14:59
of course but that doesnt mean we shouldnt trust those we have today wich are proven to be working and the best proof is our civilisation.
2017-11-23 15:02
You just don't get it. Think about it for a minute at least. Everything you said is true only if our current physic laws are right. That is the only case. We were wrong many times in human history and we can be wrong now as well. So the afterglow or whatever you call it is only right if the big bang happened and if our laws are perfect.
2017-11-23 15:08
i not gonna reply to you anymore because you dont know how science work. with your mentality we would still be living in caves. nobody says our lwas are perfect , nobody says nothing can change. you just dont know how science work. and yes you can still call the big bang a theory but ask any relevant scientist it will tell you that is 99,99% a fact , you can take that 0.01% of doubt and call it a theory still.
2017-11-23 15:30
I don't have to be scientist to know that physic laws can be wrong. Ask any relevant scientist and ALL OF THEM will tell you "....if our physic laws are right." They literally depend on that question, if they are right.
2017-11-23 16:07
i agree so ? whats your point ?
2017-11-23 16:09
My point... You are either dumb as brick or just stubborn to change your view. Or both.
2017-11-23 16:24
nice , when it comes up to essence , you come up with insults , expected from shallow kid.
2017-11-23 16:34
It is not an insult, it was meant as a fact, as you are actually a stupid person. If you did not get my point after all these replies than there is no other option.
2017-11-23 16:39
your point is retarded because you dont know how science works.
2017-11-23 18:06
laws are accepted only until disproven. for now we accept the laws because they are not disproved because they cannot be observed from macroscopic level compared to universe. may be universe governs on same laws but we definitely cannot find the exact laws but only ones which we can observe from such a microscopic level
2017-11-23 13:53
i dont know wtf are you talking about. i its some conspiracy you saw on youtube , dont bother reply to me anymore.
2017-11-23 15:01
is that your actual argument? i guess thats what autists do when they dont understand anything or dont have anything to say. u just read some wiki or some site to write the comment you made or did u even understand a word of what you saying?
2017-11-23 15:55
you literally havent said anything just talking words.
2017-11-23 15:59
read #201 and #202. pls read them again
2017-11-23 16:01
pls go to school stop spending time on youtube.
2017-11-23 16:02
lolol even a school kid can understand what im saying but you, a 26yr old(your bio says) cant understand such a simple thing? have u completed your studies or just dropped out?
2017-11-23 16:09
lololol you are saying that big bang theory is real because you can see the things which are coming from big bang. thats exactly what the theory says. you cant say "this theory is correct" for proving a theory. and bbt has theory in its name its always a theory. even this theory cannot explain many things. if you argue by using science atleast know what you want to argue. dont pull statements out of your ass you should change your name cause your names implies you hate your own disorder.
2017-11-23 14:02
wtf are you talking about i'm talking about the microwave background radiation , when i ssay you can see the afterglow of it ? and you ? just mixing some words here for no reason.
2017-11-23 14:55
and by the way we understand what happened in that massive explosion that gave birth to our universe up towards the first billionth of a second after it. but who am i talking to , random superficial kids on hltv.
2017-11-23 15:32
looool autist 100% confirmed. its only according to the theory, doesnt mean we know thats what actually happened. just look up the word theory. if u have some argument then come up with that, what nonsense are u typing here.
2017-11-23 15:59
ok then dont use any of the technology we have today because its only theories and it can change in a fraction of a second if something new comes up . look at your logic , you are pathetic.
2017-11-23 16:00
how is that even related to this discussion? who said anything about technology? how is btt related to technology? you are only embarrassing yourself.
2017-11-23 16:03
whatever , i gave already to much attention and gained nothing . you clearly dont know anything about anything , bye.
2017-11-23 16:04
exactly you gained nothing mostly because you are autistic but go through the comments carefully, you can learn a lot of things
2017-11-23 16:07
your commenst are literally 3rd grade school boy level. just some far'fetched non sensical bullshit.
2017-11-23 16:08
just show me 1 comment i made which is nonsense? the fact that you are not even giving any counter argument but straight typing unrelated stuff shows how your autistic brain works
2017-11-23 16:12
no point arguing with you , you are 3rd grade level as i said. think whatever you want i dont care.
2017-11-23 16:14
2017-11-23 15:21
mrvnNN | 
Czech Republic stinx 
2017-11-23 09:10
Religious assumption is "since no one knows what was BEFORE the big bang, then there was nothing so big bang came from nothing". Nothing based on what? There is no scientist saying there was nothing before, they say "we don't know" (and they even say "we don't even know if there was a before".
2017-11-23 09:36
actually there are already several theories that suggest what was before the big bang , or in other words how big bang came to be happening. the most plausible is the string theory but its super complex , very hard to explain to a guy like op. i bet he doesnt even comprehend the solar system we live in , 0% chance with string theory or anything like that.
2017-11-23 12:11
Sweden jackir 
+1 on that iq diss
2017-11-23 12:29
Baiting with religion in 2k17 ultralul
2017-11-23 10:12
Another bs topic, half of hltv users isn't old enough to discuss this in a civilized and logical way
2017-11-23 10:37
Sorry but I cant take you serious when you believe in any kind of ''powerful creature'' that created the universe xD
2017-11-23 10:39
Germany DieS0nne 
2017-11-23 15:05
God is only idea that human mind can create.
2017-11-23 11:15
CIS h4x0rrr 
GOD is fake.
2017-11-23 11:50
Instead of having your kooky beliefs endorsed by arguing with random idiots on the streets/forums (most people are dumb and ineloquent), if you are genuinely interested in challenging your beliefs (which we all know you are not) then listen to and read the likes of Richard Dawkins and Sam Harris.
2017-11-23 11:55
stop opnening threads about subjects you dont know anything about . thank you. religion as you know it its fake and unnecessary in 21st century. end of story.
2017-11-23 12:06
+1 He probably read one article about some shit, and now he's all hyped up that he came to hltv to spread bullshit
2017-11-23 12:33
'fan of albania' /case closed
2017-11-30 13:23
2017-11-30 13:30
2017-11-23 12:13
fak both atheists and maslims
2017-11-23 12:16
The universe wasn't created. It's always been here. Checkmate, god doesn't exist.
2017-11-23 12:29
Oh the username fits you very well if you believe universe is infiinte. What a retard
2017-11-23 14:15
Nice try ISIS
2017-11-24 00:20
Europe funkydora 
Here's how I see it. An ant walks onto a leaf. You then pick the leaf up and walk it across the road. The ant gets off of the leaf having no idea that it just crossed the road. The ant doesn't have the brain capacity to comprehend what just happened. It's like us. It's impossible for us to know how the universe started since we don't have the brain capacity. There's no way to disprove this.
2017-11-23 12:36
Finland Emvi 
You found two randoms debating on the street, you must feel really smart about yourself. I would rather listen to actual scientists debate science but that's just me, you do you. You seem to be pretty insecure about your beliefs with all these clips and threads :/ You're also pretty confused about someone not believing in a god, feel free to ask smth friend
2017-11-23 12:45
ufo are real i saw something 2 years ago
2017-11-23 12:47
well I cant prove that you didnt saw it, so it must be true *religion logic*
2017-11-30 13:22
MUSLIM LOGIC LOL Other Religion: There are many religions you should all respect. Muslim: No, Let´s bomb others to show our religion is the one and only. Muslims always put up a good laugh in discussions. Oh wait...
2017-11-23 13:05
shit, I wanted to visit Germany. Fuck no!
2017-11-23 15:27
China 70x1c 
communist gonna KILL U ALL /close
2017-11-23 13:48
A: whats that lightball at the heaven? B: must be some kind of god! 100 years later we know its the sun A: what is lightning? B: god is mad he shows us with thunder and lightning 100 years later we know its just energy unloading in the surface of earth Just because we dont understand it now doest mean there is some "god" behind it. Weak up, religion hold civilization back.
2017-11-23 13:48
+1 You can't convince a believer of anything; for their belief is not based on evidence, it's based on a deep-seated need to believe. Carl Sagan
2017-11-23 16:36
There is a probability for everything. So to maximize the chance of not burning in hell, I should probably become muslim. But i like bacon...
2017-11-23 14:03
There is a probability of everything. So to maximize the chance of not burning in hell, I should probably become Muslim. But I like bacon...
2017-11-23 14:03
2017-11-23 14:04
Sweden Trkmag 
We don't 100% know if the Big Bang theory is correct or not, but it's obvious religion is not.
2017-11-23 14:11
What an non sensibel statement.
2017-11-23 14:13
Sweden Trkmag 
Sensible? Explain why god exists
2017-11-23 14:23
Typical HLTV kid with 40IQ brainwashed and following mainstream atheists who contradict themselves left right and center and think they're right...LUL. Read #207, Read #208 and then ask yourself "why the fuck did I suddenly jump to another topic asking about god existence".
2017-11-23 14:41
The feeling when you don't have any arguments and just start flaming proving that not only are you stupid to believe in religions, but also can't argue and comprehense text properly.
2017-11-23 15:16
you call him mainstream but follow a book from middleage and you dont think for yourself lol religion is the biggest mainstream scam
2017-11-23 16:25
Religion is a social construct
2017-11-23 14:22
bomb my house ahmed
2017-11-23 14:23
DJ khalid also wanted to hear the argument it seems
2017-11-23 14:25
God won't solve your problems. You are desperate if you think so. Desperate people do desperate things. All religions are hilarious. We are living in the 21st century ffs.
2017-11-23 15:13
How can you tell people to believe in god's existence/nonexsitence? There's literally no proof of him existing, and a good amount of evidence that it wasn't the "gods" hand that created our universe. Literally 0 proof he exists. Come back to me when you have logical proof, haters. Or god can just come to me from the nearest cloud and shake my hand, that'll make me believe too.
2017-11-23 15:14
"good amount of evidence that it wasn't the "gods" hand that created our universe. " Please do enlighten us and btw why havent u won a nobel price yet?
2017-11-23 15:18
Come back to me when you have evidence that he DOES exist. And google it, if you're too stupid to search "The Big Bang" there's nothing I can do for you. You criticize what I say and say he does exist without proving any evidence on what you're saying whatsoever. But, since you're probably baiting anyways, I'm not gonna bother replying to you anymore.
2017-11-23 17:49
If i say 'I can fly', then you have to prove that I can't? and if you can't prove that i can't fly, then I can fly? sorry, but that is your logic. If I say 'I can fly', then im the one stating a point, which I have to prove, that it is the way I say, not the people who deny that
2017-11-30 13:20
A question for HLTV - what is conciousness? How it came into being? And no, our brain is not producing it.
2017-11-23 15:24
"And no, our brain is not producing it." how do you know this ? do you have any evidence that after you cut off the brain you still have conciousness ? of course not , just talking shit. we dont know what conciousness is people are trying to find the answer for this question since we exist , but there is no reason to think is something magical or some bullshit , if you think so , yu are in the same realm as religious people. it can be an illusion just like our ego , it could some form of frequency of the universe we live in that we appeal to , it can be many things
2017-11-23 15:44
brain cannot produce it, it only can receive it, like a radio. Do your research, I dont have time to talk to ppl who run into a discussion so uneducated about the matter that its embarrassing. Why dont you study conciosness and its origins for a week and then come back.
2017-11-23 15:45
i bet i've done more research about consciousness then you ever did about any form of science in your entire life so dont bullshit me with "ppl who run into a discussion so uneducated about the matter that its embarrassing" nobody knows for sure what concoiusness is and it can be produced in our brain just like it can be an universal frequency so stop talking shit just because you saw some video on youtube.
2017-11-23 15:48
cannot be prudced by a brain. I am researchin more than you, you lost your bet cunt.
2017-11-23 15:48
how do you know it cannot be produced by chemical reactions in your brain (just like anything else ) if nobody in this world cannot even define it properly ? kid pls. i appreciate your interest on the matter but dont be ignorant because you aint gonna reach nowhere
2017-11-23 15:50
dont you kid me idiot with prejudices
2017-11-23 15:51
how old are you ?
2017-11-23 15:51
30. u?
2017-11-23 15:52
so you are 30 and you rule out the possibillty than it can be produced by neurochemicals in our brain based on nothing ? good job , very mature and open mind mentality.
2017-11-23 15:53
gtfo. Just say - I am hard core atheist who will do anything to prove that everything has no magic in it cuz my life is sad...kys
2017-11-23 15:55
im not and thats the problem. and btw when i was a teenager and popin acid i had the same mindset as you have today , but i matured and i've done my research and i understood that nobody knows what the fuck conciousness really is. so calling it magic just for the sake of not understanding it yet , puts you directly in the same category with the religious people.
2017-11-23 15:58
they dont know what it is, but they know its not priduced by a brain nigger.
2017-11-23 16:00
false , but whatever floats you boat , im not gonna continue because you are stubborn in ignorance and there's no point.
2017-11-23 16:05
longer then you bro, longer then you...
2017-11-23 16:13
provide me any evidence that if you cut off the brain , the conciousness is still there , if you want me to continue this discussion. until then , for me you are just a kid beleiving in magic.
2017-11-23 16:17
Nah, I like it like you said! :D
2017-11-23 16:19
So, it looks like Im into this longer than you bro...what now? Oh yeah, your sources are more valid...LOL
2017-11-23 15:54
you were right about the universal freq tho...
2017-11-23 15:49
lmao this guy hahhahaha never seen such guy in my entire life you are convinced that "we dont know what conciousness is people are trying to find the answer for this question since we exist" is true(which i think most of us agree), how are u convinced that we know how the universe is created. its seems like you just google this and copy paste the first link which you find. use your brain bro
2017-11-23 16:27
"lmao this guy hahhahaha never seen such guy in my entire life" indeed since you are surrounded by idiots like you
2017-11-23 16:31
but he is right. You dont know anything about conciosness, yet you are here do discuss origin of the life.
2017-11-23 16:35
that guy really trying hard to cover the fact that he got rekt but still trying his best with his irrelevant statements
2017-11-23 16:59
yeah i got triggered by idiots and now i regret that i got mysaelf involved in a discussion with a bunch of idiots with 0 education and superficial af the kind of people from wich you have nothing to gain and only to lose. but its ok , you learn from mistakes . next time i should know what to expect from hltv on this issues.
2017-11-23 18:10
keep dodging the discussion but never give one meaningful relevant statement to the above discussion. this is what happens when you just google and copy whatever you find without understanding what it means
2017-11-23 18:34
lmao . nice projection of yourself wtf do you even know about bing bang other that it has "theory" on the back and its supposed to explain the beggining of the universe ? nothing ofc ... last reply to you i gave you way too much attention.
2017-11-23 18:37
this discussion proves the exact opposite of what you are saying. just read again or ask someone to explain it to you. you literally gave no counter to my statements but type nonsense. i think you have misspelled your name it should be i_have_autism instead of i_hate_autism
2017-11-23 19:04
Unbeleivable how shallow you are.
2017-11-23 17:58
still deep down compared to you paley
2017-11-23 18:16
ok kid :D you are at the understanding of a 12yo. but its alright not everybody has to be clever . it would be a rather boring world.
2017-11-23 18:32
longer than you juvenile, got rekt ha? Hehe, dont cry, you still have time to make the world a boring place.
2017-11-23 18:39
dude , you are literally pathetic but fortunatelly for you you dont realize. ignorance is bliss.
2017-11-23 18:54
you are blessed criple
2017-11-23 20:58
Romania SergiuMr 
2017-11-23 15:56
Brazil wAc 
religion in 2017, who cares
2017-11-23 16:30
religion is just a tool to brainwash people with low mind, and it works. guys who invented religion were smart af tbh
2017-11-23 16:33
World Tenshi_R 
Atheist: "..It just jumps in" (About energy when there's NOTHING) Muslim: "God exists" (Using the atheists logic) Atheist: "No". Muslim: "but i have a bomb" *puts finger on the detonator* Atheist: "oh crap" People can believe in god, but that does not mean that god exists. Just in the time of the birth of religions, the appearance of man, flora, fauna, etc. was more conveniently explained by supernatural interference. Now religion a path leading to nowhere, for which losers and conservatives try to cling
2017-11-23 18:10
santa is real too, prove me wrong
2017-11-23 18:11
"I believe in god, because I'm too fucking stupid to understand things"
2017-11-24 00:21
Canada boiledbageI 
2017-11-24 03:03
OK, so there is my vision of creating the world. At first - there was n0thing. That n0thing transformed in the chicken. Chiken msde an egg. Egg made a god. God created the universe. But we doesan't exist, because we are on Matrix. I'm retarded.
2017-11-24 10:31
United States Droidd 
Then what happened with n0thing?
2017-11-26 04:10
That n0thing transformed in the chicken.
2017-11-26 04:41
United States Droidd 
Then what happened to the chicken after it pooped god?
2017-11-26 05:06
it died, probably...
2017-11-26 07:35
instead of him debating some random idiots on the street maybe he should try a scientist. but wont happen because he would get destroyed
2017-11-24 11:22
Algeria H4ZARD1337DZ 
atheists are so fucking retarded because they think science can solve anything you can't even predict if it's going to rain the next day yet you can say that universe came from nothing
2017-11-25 20:18
Name checks out
2017-11-26 03:48
2017-11-30 13:16
Atheism is not the claim that science can solve anything. In fact, that's not even what science is for anyway.
2017-11-30 13:23
xd arguing about god on the internet in 2017 xd
2017-11-25 20:20
On HLTV of all places
2017-11-26 03:48
Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Elon Musk belive in guys like this they move humanity forward
2017-11-25 20:30
Steve Jobs can't really move humanity forward because he's dead....
2017-11-26 03:48
This guy is an idiot but at the end of the day, the burden of proof is on theists to prove that God exists, not on atheists to prove that God doesn't.
2017-11-26 03:47
yeah i agree
2017-11-26 04:00
still beat you in the ashes but who gives a fuck its cricket shittest sport on the planet
2017-11-26 04:01
Sorry I don't watch cricket but congrats.
2017-11-26 04:03
i dont either just thought i would see if you do lmao. Football is much better
2017-11-26 04:18
To be honest I don't like any sport, but yes I think Football is better than Cricket.
2017-11-26 04:49
Ethiopia FeelsHoodMan 
this thread gave me cancer
2017-11-26 04:09
United Arab Emirates TROIIDA 
not even god could make me watch your 20 minute video
2017-11-26 04:10
Brazil just_many 
we’re in an infinite matrix /close
2017-11-26 04:18
NiKo | 
Europe z0cker 
Muslim logic: God just exists, not born, not created, just exists from itself. There is no difference actually between muslim and atheistic logic at all. Nt terrorist.
2017-11-27 01:14
2017-11-30 13:15
Brazil yellow____ 
Religion is for weak minded fools. Good day
2017-11-27 07:46
Czech Republic marekkingx 
if you dont understand physics dont talk shit thanks. also your whole fucking point is completely retarded
2017-11-27 18:03
Lithuania YungDavid 
muslim logic: lets Stone some whores yolo
2017-11-30 12:07
2017-11-30 13:15
This guy is making terribly unreasonable claims, so I'm not surprised he cannot deliver on backing them up. That is completely irrelevant regarding his atheism though. From what I watched he seems more like an anti-theist actually.
2017-11-30 13:18
2017-11-30 13:26
stupid religious ppl the genesis / evolution theories are stupid ur father fuxk ur mom born u, ur grandpa fuxt ur grandma born ur parents.. repeated cycle..thats called human creation how universe started?? nobody knows
2017-11-30 13:24
religious people are a plague. shouldnt exist anymore, but in the least developed places of the world they are still around.
2017-11-30 13:35
The counter argument to his objection is this; there needs to be no first cause if there is an infinite series of preceding causes the big bang doesn't necessarily mean there was nothing "before" it, we just start the "arrow of time" there because that is an information barrier, due to the earliest known time being a singularity. Since the laws of physics break down at a singularity (from a mathematical point of view, for example things like division by zero or zero/zero are possible in a singularity when applying any existing models), there is no way for us to observe it or measure the effects of any prior causes. As a result, we call that the start of time; anything Bernie that is scientifically meaningless. As far as we know, "everything" doesn't need a beginning. It just needs a prior cause, and an infinite chain of causes has no logical or theoretical problem with existing.
2017-12-01 08:13
He won't respond to you, he only do on stupid comments where he know he can win the argument, just like the guy in the video picking random plebs on the street.
2017-12-01 08:33
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