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Europe ApziIsKing 
Why are so many great people from South Africa? Mathama Gandhi, Nelson Mandela, J. R. R. Tolkien to name a few.
2017-11-24 12:10
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Other cscrmn1 
I doubt people will fall for the first name, but that's an effort right there.
2017-11-24 12:12
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_South_Africa.. Great South Africans-> Mahatma Gandhi, political activist (1869–1948)
2017-11-24 12:13
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Other cscrmn1 
He was an activist in South Africa, he's from India, not from South Africa. I see you kinda messed up what you typed up there then.
2017-11-24 12:13
still big warrior for peace and creator of modern fantasy and the biggest author of the 20th century are both from South Africa.. and legendary warrior for indian independence also has connections to south africa.
2017-11-24 12:18
#11
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Other cscrmn1 
Yeah, as a half South African I'm proud to say the least, the most influential being Nelson Mandela by far. When I was little I went to a marriage with him, a known guy in my family married Mandela's daughter when I was about 9 and we met him there. Didn't have the chance to take a picture but had the pleasure to handshake him. That's nuts.
2017-11-24 12:20
that's sick, m8
2017-11-24 12:40
I mean your treatment of white farmers is equal or close to Zimbabwe ATM - Jacob zuma = dictator
2017-11-26 14:42
actually he was a communist and terrorist.....
2017-11-26 11:44
His first "political activism", was civil disobedience while working as a lawyer in South Africa. A lot of Asian people moved to South Africa to work, especially during Apartheid, where they were considered second rank citizens, whereas blacks were third class.
2017-11-24 18:21
#65
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Other cscrmn1 
Brother, I realize that =). The only misunderstanding here was that he said "from" South Africa, which Gandhi isn't. I'm aware that he moved to South Africa on the Apartheid time. Very unstable times /=
2017-11-24 18:24
Cool mate. Yeah, horrible things still happening in SA
2017-11-24 18:36
so you talk about apartheid when asians were 2nd class citize and blacks 3rd class..... well nowadays there is white genocide in South Africa
2017-11-26 11:31
It's a conspiracy
2017-11-24 12:12
#4
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United States darth_mac 
Why are there so many great people from america. 1. George Washington (1789-1797) John Adams (1789-1797) 2. John Adams (1797-1801) Thomas Jefferson (1797-1801) 3. Thomas Jefferson (1801-1809) Aaron Burr (1801-1805) George Clinton (1805-1809) 4. James Madison (1809-1817) George Clinton (1809-1812) None (1812-1813) Elbridge Gerry (1813-1814) None (1814-1817) 5. James Monroe (1817-1825) Daniel D. Tompkins (1817-1825) 6. John Quincy Adams (1825-1829) John C. Calhoun (1825-1829) 7. Andrew Jackson (1829-1837) John C. Calhoun (1829-1832) None (1832-1833) Martin Van Buren (1833-1837) 8. Martin Van Buren (1837-1841) Richard M. Johnson (1837-1841) 9. William Henry Harrison (1841) John Tyler (1841) 10. John Tyler (1841-1845) None (1841-1845) 11. James K. Polk (1845-1849) George M. Dallas (1845-1849) 12. Zachary Taylor (1849-1850) Millard Fillmore (1849-1850) 13. Millard Fillmore (1850-1853) None (1850-1853) 14. Franklin Pierce (1853-1857) William King (1853) None (1853-1857) 15. James Buchanan (1857-1861) John C. Breckinridge (1857-1861) 16. Abraham Lincoln (1861-1865) Hannibal Hamlin (1861-1865) Andrew Johnson (1865) 17. Andrew Johnson (1865-1869) None (1865-1869) 18. Ulysses S. Grant (1869-1877) Schuyler Colfax (1869-1873) Henry Wilson (1873-1875) None (1875-1877) 19. Rutherford B. Hayes (1877-1881) William Wheeler (1877-1881) 20. James A. Garfield (1881) Chester Arthur (1881) 21. Chester Arthur (1881-1885) None (1881-1885) 22. Grover Cleveland (1885-1889) Thomas Hendricks (1885) None (1885-1889) 23. Benjamin Harrison (1889-1893) Levi P. Morton (1889-1893) 24. Grover Cleveland (1893-1897) Adlai E. Stevenson (1893-1897) 25. William McKinley (1897-1901) Garret Hobart (1897-1899) None (1899-1901) Theodore Roosevelt (1901) 26. Theodore Roosevelt (1901-1909) None (1901-1905) Charles Fairbanks (1905-1909) 27. William Howard Taft (1909-1913) James S. Sherman (1909-1912) None (1912-1913) 28. Woodrow Wilson (1913-1921) Thomas R. Marshall (1913-1921) 29. Warren G. Harding (1921-1923) Calvin Coolidge (1921-1923) 30. Calvin Coolidge (1923-1929) None (1923-1925) Charles Dawes (1925-1929) 31. Herbert Hoover (1929-1933) Charles Curtis (1929-1933) 32. Franklin D. Roosevelt (1933-1945) John Nance Garner (1933-1941) Henry A. Wallace (1941-1945) Harry S. Truman (1945) 33. Harry S. Truman (1945-1953) None (1945-1949) Alben Barkley (1949-1953) 34. Dwight D. Eisenhower (1953-1961) Richard Nixon (1953-1961) 35. John F. Kennedy (1961-1963) Lyndon B. Johnson (1961-1963) 36. Lyndon B. Johnson (1963-1969) None (1963-1965) Hubert Humphrey (1965-1969) 37. Richard Nixon (1969-1974) Spiro Agnew (1969-1973) None (1973) Gerald Ford (1973-1974) 38. Gerald Ford (1974-1977) None (1974) Nelson Rockefeller (1974-1977) 39. Jimmy Carter (1977-1981) Walter Mondale (1977-1981) 40. Ronald Reagan (1981-1989) George Bush (1981-1989) 41. George Bush (1989-1993) Dan Quayle (1989-1993) 42. Bill Clinton (1993-2001) Al Gore (1993-2001) 43. George W. Bush (2001-2009) Dick Cheney (2001-2009) 44. Barack Obama (2009-2017) Joe Biden (2009-2017) 45. Donald Trump (2017- ) Mike Pence (2017- )
2017-11-24 12:12
44. Barack Obama - not great 42. Bill Clinton - not great 39. Jimmy Carter - not great 36. Lyndon B. Johnson - not great 35. John F. Kennedy - not great 33. Harry S. Truman - not great 32. Franklin D. Roosevelt - not great 28. Woodrow Wilson - not great 26. Theodore Roosevelt - not great
2017-11-24 12:16
#7
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United States darth_mac 
Seems you are very right winged you should have a more open mindset. and LBJ is god tier
2017-11-24 12:17
lol no that commie was bad
2017-11-24 12:17
#80
North America hesh 
lbj and the cia killed kennedy you're stupid
2017-11-26 11:45
#91
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United States darth_mac 
lbj is a god
2017-11-26 12:44
Trump's great for you? O M E G A L U L
2017-11-24 12:18
John F Kennedy not great? LMAO
2017-11-24 12:26
#19
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United Kingdom DJ_Nr8 
He didnt do anything...
2017-11-24 12:30
Perhaps because he got killed?
2017-11-24 12:31
#25
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United Kingdom DJ_Nr8 
So How can he be great if he haven't done anything great? Also, his death didnt change anything either except that now USA presidents are more secured
2017-11-24 12:32
lol that bitch introduced minimum wage and as a result of that, 4 milion humans lost jobs. Well they were negroes but nowadays 20 millions young Europeans are negroes of Europe.
2017-11-24 12:32
Would you rather be treated at a normal level or be a slave and work for nearly nothing?
2017-11-24 12:33
#29
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Portugal DOUTROMUNDO 
+9999999999
2017-11-24 12:33
#66
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Brazil hltvsuckers2 
I stopped at George Washington
2017-11-24 18:27
George Clinton (1805-1809) wtf the clintons have been in power since the 19th century.. this corrupt machine must be stopped
2017-11-26 11:42
#90
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United States darth_mac 
He is one out of two vice presidents who did this; John C. Calhoun served under two presidents as well. Clinton was also a candidate for president in the 1808 election and did receive six electoral votes. George Clinton has no known relation of 42nd President Bill Clinton, who took his stepfather's surname as a child.
2017-11-26 12:44
#12
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Other cscrmn1 
Mandela is one of the greatest personalities this world ever had in the history of mankind. Have the pleasure to live in the same street (very near) as he used to on his secondary house and to meet him face-to-face before he was gone.
2017-11-24 12:23
Elon musk as well
2017-11-24 12:27
#17
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United Kingdom DJ_Nr8 
The guy who scams a whole world ??? Yes very nice person ;)
2017-11-24 12:28
Ait bro
2017-11-24 13:04
#53
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France nyygma 
Scams ? Stay in your bubble little boy.
2017-11-24 13:09
#15
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United Kingdom DJ_Nr8 
hahah HOW is Nelson Mandela even close to be a decent human being? He is a terrorist and criminal who destroyed whole country, destroyed his family and was racist towards white people. Very sad that they released him from jail ;(
2017-11-24 12:27
#20
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Other cscrmn1 
You clearly have no idea what you're talking about, and if you eventually do, oh well, that's a serious case. Saddens me that people nowadays still think a man who fought his heart off against Apartheid (for the equality of all races and their rights) and took 27 years in jail still gets shittalked. You would've done better.
2017-11-24 12:30
#30
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Portugal DOUTROMUNDO 
+1 already saw a video on that, he murdered white people cold blooded just because they were white, thats why he got to jail in the first place but people are desinformed about that
2017-11-24 12:34
#32
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United Kingdom DJ_Nr8 
Well I dont know what video you are talking about but his modern portrayal is disgusting, He was a criminal and racist
2017-11-24 12:36
#36
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Portugal DOUTROMUNDO 
yes he was, he even created a song chanting about how good was killing white people and also he was a commie, he was friend of fidel castro, so that explains a lot.
2017-11-24 12:37
#83
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Lithuania YungDavid 
Hes disgusting, im glad they didnt kill him so he could rot in jail. Sadly he was released :(
2017-11-26 11:59
#118
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Portugal DOUTROMUNDO 
He murdered many white folks just for being white but the media always desinforms people by saying "how much of good lider he was" he murdered white people the worst way you could imagine and he chanted about it with pride, he was friends with fidel castro also that says a lot.
2017-11-26 15:24
+1
2017-11-26 11:32
#33
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India choice_gupta 
never met such a retarded baiter on hltv.fak u
2017-11-24 12:36
+1
2017-11-26 11:32
#16
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Yugoslavia willynaessens 
Why had russia so many great people like Vladimir Lenin, Leo Trotzsky, Grigori Sinowjew, Gennadi Sjuganow or Georgi Walentinowitsch Plechanow????
2017-11-24 12:28
#18
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United Kingdom DJ_Nr8 
all jews...
2017-11-24 12:29
vladimir putin is jew'?
2017-11-24 12:33
#34
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United Kingdom DJ_Nr8 
he didnt mention Putin
2017-11-24 12:36
Vladimir Lenin
2017-11-24 12:37
#38
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United Kingdom DJ_Nr8 
And he was a jew Thats correct
2017-11-24 12:38
#43
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Portugal DOUTROMUNDO 
Its not about him being jew, but about him being evil he created a murderous ideology a dumb utopia who murdered 100 million people and still counting today with north korea and cuba, thats why he was evil, not because he was jew.
2017-11-24 12:40
#57
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United Kingdom DJ_Nr8 
Who cares...
2017-11-24 17:27
#58
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Portugal DOUTROMUNDO 
me
2017-11-24 18:10
#59
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United Kingdom DJ_Nr8 
why ?
2017-11-24 18:11
#61
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Portugal DOUTROMUNDO 
because the truth matters
2017-11-24 18:13
#63
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United Kingdom DJ_Nr8 
what truth ? 100m is exaggeration, even though communism killed many people. And you talk about it like its some hidden truth while absolutely everyone knows that it did happen and that communism destroyed Russia and eastern Europe. It happened long time ago so it doesnt matter...
2017-11-24 18:18
#84
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Lithuania YungDavid 
It still effects Eastern europe to this day, so it does matter, also we regained our independence 27 years ago, thats a long time ago?
2017-11-26 12:01
#94
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United Kingdom DJ_Nr8 
27 years ago CCCP didnt send people to gulags and didnt kill millions. Communism dealt a lot of damage to eastern europe but you cant blame it all on it, your problems are your own foult.
2017-11-26 14:24
#95
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Lithuania YungDavid 
What? so russia invading us, destroying our country and then introducing communism that ruins our economy is our own fault?
2017-11-26 14:25
#96
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United Kingdom DJ_Nr8 
Invading you ? maybe you forgot but you were independant from Russian Empire only for 21 years, So you want to say that you managed to build strong economy back then but cant to that right now. Lithuania is corrupt and thats main problem for your unfortunate situation. Also being just another workforce country for EU doesnt help.
2017-11-26 14:29
#97
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Lithuania YungDavid 
Yeah and before that invasion, we were independent for like 600 years, if u woulndt have invaded us like 20k times we would be way better off, and again how is that our own fault?
2017-11-26 14:31
#98
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United Kingdom DJ_Nr8 
Yes remember things that happened 300 years ago... By the way Lithuanians were attacking Russia as much as Russia attacked Lithuania so its not Russias fault that eventually you lost your independence. Why not blame Austria which helped Russia to defeat Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth? Just stop blaming others, look at germany they got rekt so many times and still, their country is one of the strongest in the world.
2017-11-26 14:36
#99
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United Kingdom DJ_Nr8 
By the way, I never invaded Lithuania maybe some of my ancestors did but again I'm not responsible for their actions... Stop living in the past
2017-11-26 14:37
#100
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Lithuania YungDavid 
Your whole point is that its lithuania fault that its trash, and i told you its not, why cant u deal with the fact that the past affects the present?
2017-11-26 14:38
#101
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United Kingdom DJ_Nr8 
Yes Lithuania was trash in the past and thats why it is trash now ;) . Your economy was never good and that's why it is bad now.
2017-11-26 14:39
#103
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Lithuania YungDavid 
Never good? thats not true, say before russia annexed us, and thats why its trash now :)
2017-11-26 14:41
#104
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United Kingdom DJ_Nr8 
Tell me when was it good then...
2017-11-26 14:41
#106
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Lithuania YungDavid 
Before u annexed us, already told you.
2017-11-26 14:41
#109
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United Kingdom DJ_Nr8 
1919-1940 you mean ?
2017-11-26 14:43
#110
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Lithuania YungDavid 
nah, before the partitions i mean
2017-11-26 14:44
#113
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United Kingdom DJ_Nr8 
Country was on its way down hill anyway and economy wanst even great stop lying. By the way If you learn some actual history not propoganda wich you learn in school you will know that Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth was more like Polish Kingdom which owned lithuania. No one even spoke lithuanian there only Polish and Russian.
2017-11-26 14:56
#117
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Lithuania YungDavid 
LOL is that what you get teached in school? XD
2017-11-26 15:23
#111
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Lithuania YungDavid 
but also between 1919-1940 we had lots of money cuz we had a lot of jews.
2017-11-26 14:45
#112
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United Kingdom DJ_Nr8 
Why did you kill the jews then ? Lithuanians were killing jews before Nazis even arrived...
2017-11-26 14:51
#116
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Lithuania YungDavid 
Same reason why u did the same.
2017-11-26 15:22
#119
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United Kingdom DJ_Nr8 
No Russians didnt kill jews, In fact they were accepting all jewish refuges from Nazi countries like Lithuania
2017-11-26 15:24
#120
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Lithuania YungDavid 
Lithuania was never a nazi Country, we were invaded by them, just like by the ussr ;) obviously you accepted them because u lost the war against the jews, and they controlled your Country.
2017-11-26 15:26
jews all of them
2017-11-24 12:30
#22
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Other cscrmn1 
I have a house in the Vladimir Lenin street here in my town =)
2017-11-24 12:31
#26
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United Kingdom DJ_Nr8 
Where do you live ?
2017-11-24 12:33
#60
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Other cscrmn1 
Mozambique.
2017-11-24 18:12
#85
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Lithuania YungDavid 
Are u black?
2017-11-26 12:03
#92
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Other cscrmn1 
No? What what does that matter?
2017-11-26 12:55
#93
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Lithuania YungDavid 
1. Mozambique sounds like a country in africa 2. obviously youre white if u try to pretend race doesnt matter.
2017-11-26 14:20
#121
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Other cscrmn1 
1. Yes it does, and why does the fact that I live in Africa makes you ask if I'm black? Like you'd ask an European if he's white. 2. Not because I'm white I pretend that race doesn't matter because racism has no favorite race. You're just acting stupid.
2017-11-26 15:48
#122
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Lithuania YungDavid 
1. Well a black person on hltv is pretty rare thing, so i just assumed youre a foreigner but i wanted to ask to be sure. 2. You dont get my point, the only people who thing racism is bad are white people.
2017-11-26 15:55
#123
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Other cscrmn1 
Well racism is bad in my eyes, no matter what race supports it or is against. And I'm an European descendant so I'm not really black just to clarify your curiosity =)
2017-11-26 15:57
#31
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Portugal DOUTROMUNDO 
Leon trotsky and Lenin? fathers of communism, the murderous ideology that killed 100 million people all over the world and still counting today with north korea and cuba, they were not good persons, but murderers.
2017-11-24 12:35
#39
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Yugoslavia willynaessens 
International solidarity with CUBA now!
2017-11-24 12:38
#40
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Portugal DOUTROMUNDO 
no international solidarity for murderers.
2017-11-24 12:39
#46
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Yugoslavia willynaessens 
and communism didnt killed 100 million people, it was the fashist Stalin who missunderstood communism and was a rasist. With Trotsky this would not happend
2017-11-24 12:41
#48
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Portugal DOUTROMUNDO 
the typical communist answer "that was not communism, thats fascism" but hey, i agree with you, communism is nothing more then a left wing fascism, a delusional utopia who thinks that cant stop poverty and can make mankind perfect when mankind´s nature is imperfect and will always be like that and guess what? killling thousands of people and starving them to death in purges will not solve the problem of the human nature being unperfect, and no stalin did not missunderstood communism, communism is just like that, a murderous and destructive ideology, so thodor zivkov, nicolau ceausescu, pol pot, mao tsé tung, kim jong un, fidel castro, where also fascist? stop lying to yourself.
2017-11-24 12:45
#49
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Yugoslavia willynaessens 
Not every of the guys you named and not every other communist who made people dying was a fashist, thats right but 100 million people is just not the truth as stalin didnt had anything to do with that what marx eveloped. Capitalism destoyed much more lives than communism.
2017-11-24 12:49
#50
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Portugal DOUTROMUNDO 
of course stalin didnt killed 100 million people alone... stalin killed 20 million, mao tsé tung 75 million and many other commie dictators killed more and its still counting today with north korea and cuba. Capitalism ruined the lives of more people then communism? i dont think so, capitalism doesnt lead to delusional utopias and does not murder people in purges to create a " perfect human being." Thats dispicable, only blood thirsty murderers do that, capitalism is far from perfect, but its way much better then communism who starves people to death and the only richness you see on communism is from their dictators and their officials while other people get even poorer and starve to death.
2017-11-24 12:56
#69
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Germany Sento Kaishin 
capitalism does not make you starve,but look at the third world. People in Africa are starving by the millions aswell
2017-11-24 18:45
it's not the fault of capitalism lol
2017-11-26 11:39
#82
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Yugoslavia willynaessens 
So if someone is starving in a communistic country it is but not in a capitalistic?
2017-11-26 11:50
Well, compare USSR to the Russian Federation. Compare pre-Pinochet Chile to post-Pinochet Chile. Compare pre-USSR Baltic states to current Baltic states.
2017-11-26 12:39
pinochet was a facist not a communist lol
2017-11-26 16:35
Compare pre-Pinochet Chile (invaded by socialists, doing bad) to post-Pinochet Chile. (normal market economy introduced, became the richest country in latin america in 2 years)
2017-11-26 17:03
#86
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Lithuania YungDavid 
Its because blacks are useless and cant build shit by themselves, not because of capitalism.
2017-11-26 12:04
+1
2017-11-26 12:40
#102
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United Kingdom DJ_Nr8 
Same with Lithuanians...
2017-11-26 14:40
#105
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Lithuania YungDavid 
lol lithuania is shit still way better economy then russia
2017-11-26 14:41
#108
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United Kingdom DJ_Nr8 
Well it's probably better a bit but not much better. But you get helped by EU a lot and Russia just has to survive after CCCP collapse in a broken and corrupted system
2017-11-26 14:43
Hitler just misunderstood fascism/nazism
2017-11-26 11:37
#35
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India choice_gupta 
i thought mahatma gandhi was indian
2017-11-24 12:37
#41
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United Kingdom DJ_Nr8 
doesnt matter he wasnt great either. He was sexist and religious fanatic
2017-11-24 12:39
#42
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India choice_gupta 
lmao. have a nice day :) -alex_gupta
2017-11-24 12:46
#47
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India choice_gupta 
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahatma_Gandhi thanks me later have a nice day :) -alex_gupta
2017-11-24 12:46
Why did you idolize Nelson Mandela the same as you had slaves?
2017-11-24 13:05
jews are stealing so much
2017-11-24 13:22
#87
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Lithuania YungDavid 
+1
2017-11-26 12:05
+1
2017-11-26 11:45
I never stole anything from anyone, maybe the jewish bankers did.
2017-11-24 13:45
true +1
2017-11-24 15:04
#67
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Brazil hltvsuckers2 
This africans are not great, they would be great if they start a war and them demolish Europe. My last hope in a great man is at Kim Jong-un.
2017-11-24 18:29
nice bait with kim
2017-11-26 11:39
+Elon Musk, he is a great South African too
2017-11-26 11:43
and -Nelson Mandela he was a communist and terrorist
2017-11-26 11:43
#114
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Portugal seccaZ 
"Why are so many great people from South Africa? Mathama Gandhi, Nelson Mandela, J. R. R. Tolkien to name a few." i cringed
2017-11-26 15:04
why double post?
2017-11-26 17:06
#114
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Portugal seccaZ 
"Why are so many great people from South Africa? Mathama Gandhi, Nelson Mandela, J. R. R. Tolkien to name a few." i cringed
2017-11-26 15:04
Why did you cringe?
2017-11-26 17:05
#133
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Portugal seccaZ 
Mathama Gandhi haahahaha
2017-11-27 21:26
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_South_Africa.. Great South Africans -> Mahatma Gandhi, political activist (1869–1948)
2017-11-27 22:44
#135
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Portugal seccaZ 
hahahhahaha for sure you are baiting
2017-11-27 23:08
and tbh i cant name single great person from portugal
2017-11-26 17:05
beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2015/06/th.. The god of neckland (technique of torture)
2017-11-26 16:46
+1 mandela was a communist and terrorist
2017-11-26 17:06
nt, gandhi is a hltv user
2017-11-26 17:06
-1
2017-11-26 18:07
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