Niko *mad sk come crying in 3,2,1* no kappa
"If we don't count tier 2 events that sk won" dude the only tier 2 event was summit
In terms of achievements:
SK won Epicenter 2017 , ESL One Cologne 2017 , IEM Sydney , ECS Season 3
Faze won Eleague Premier and Esl One new york 2017
cold and it's not even close.
niko can`t beat SK. so probably coldzera
there isn't any battle even niko accepts cold is the best in the world
Cold is easily 1st - Niko is 2nd tho so congratulations to Niko for being 2nd in the world. That's an achievement too.
"Consistency - coldzera, not by far"
LUL Cold miles away better than NIKO.
Pistol niko? Niko can only deag and so can cold. coldzera is the best player with cz. wachumin big boy.
"Clutching - both are different styles, so tied, NiKo does the unexpected but he also plays clever sometimes, cold is the exact opposite - he plays clever and sometimes does unexpected things."
I can remember 2 cold's clutch beating Niko... (Overpass)
as a sk haters, i'd say COLD is better than niko. he literally carried the team even when his team cant do shit against top team, while NIKO sometimes carried by rain but rain didnt get much credit prob because of consistency and if we count the achievements, COLD has more achievements than NIKO this year.
so COLD > NIKO
Is it so hard to admit that coldzera is the best by far? maaaan
niko's aim better than cold? wtf i dont read this
It's like comparing CR7 to Messi, CR7 has been in a slump lately but we all know he's way better than Leo
Cold is more than niko in this year and also how "plus+", cold with sk won 2 grand finals againts FaZe, more tournaments in this year with his team, and more mvps
COLDZERA MVP EPICENTER MOSCOW 2017
COLDZERA MVP ZOWIE IEM SYDNEY 2017 (and best player in the grand final against FaZe with NiKo)
COLDZERA MVP CS_SUMMIT (Tier 2 event)
COLDZERA MVP DH OPEN SUMMER (maybe tier 1.5 event, but the grand final was against fnatic, so ... )
NiKo MVP ESL ONE NEW YORK 2017
NiKo MVP ZOWIE SL I-League SS S3 FINALS (Tier 2 event on cs go, maybe in Dota it's tier 1/1.5)
Coldzera with SK 2017: Epicenter moscow, iem sydney, cs_summit, dh open summer, esl cologne 2017, esc season 3, 4th place on eleague major, 2nd place DH MASTER Las vegas 2017 (big tournament)
NiKo with FaZe 2017: ESL NEW YORK 2017, Starleadder S3 finals, Eleague Premier 2017 (2nd place esc season 3 against sk, 2nd place iem sydney against sk and 2nd place against NiP on iem oakland)
coldzera by far, no contest
niko wasn't even best player of his team, how is he being best of 2017?
NiKo in clutch = bunnyhop with knife in site try to noscope and die like headless chicken, he just gives up instantly, what do you expect from rager kid
ive never seen him winning clutches lol
when i watch coldzera movie i see 1v4 1v3 1v4 1v3 when i watch niko's movie i see none of these
You are recently biased. If you look at all 2017 coldzera is #1 hands down.
Coldzera is the best player in the world for sure. No one is even close lel.
you just make this point to put your opinion that niko is better than cold, but everyone knows that this is not true.
And if you compare with the stats of the 2 players, niko get rekt
Coldzera > NiKo dont cry pls
Why do people compare a player from this planet with coldzera who is totally from a different universe.Im a G2 fan , but Niko is not even the best player in Faze rofl He is not a good clutcher like cold, cold is much better at awping , cold is performing well on big events meanwhile Niko is having mostly good games against tier 2 teams.Niko is good but he is not even close to Coldzera , not even to S1mple if it comes to individual skill and firepower.
I think Cold and Niko are pretty much even in terms of skill, cold has looked better with a better team around him for the most part of the year, however that has changed since faze last roster changes.
But h0bbit will wipe the floor with both of them next year :)
coldzera miles away on top1 =p
not even close LMAOO
wtf who cares? REZ and f0rest are the best players in the world at the moment
cold will be first from whole year...
We have discussed this together already so I will be more quiet:D but still that clutching, yes, different styles but you cannot compare this, its about win rate, which cold has 2nd best (after Xyp9x) + cold has 2nd most clutches behind FalleN (if im not mistaknes) so that talks for everything
And i wouldnt say NiKo better pistols BY FAR, yes, he has better pistols, but look at colds deagle, at colds pistol rounds, NiKo is better pistol player but its pretty close, because cold is one of the best aimers in the world whatever people say, his xhair positioning, his muscle memory, he is the most complete player in the world. He can even entry, you dont see it very often, but he can, he wins most of his 1v1 entry battles - even on rifles (for the "eco frags haters")
Achievements:coldzera ( more consistency )
niko has more impactfull frags
Achievements: coldzera >>> NiKo
Game Sense: coldzera >> NiKo
Pistols: NiKo > coldzera
Aim: NiKo > coldzera
Clutch situations: coldzera > NiKo
Awping: coldzera >>> NiKo
Consistency: coldzera >> NiKo
Stats: coldzera >> NiKo
imo: Cold 1st, NiKo 2nd.
Edit: Career wise, not only 2017.
Consistancy: Cold by a solid mile. It's what characterizes him best.
About everything else it seems accurate to me except Cold's clutch potential is for me far better than NiKo's as well.
Aim - Niko
Gamesense - both tied yes,rather going with the cold no...(if its a tie its a tie and its not like cold outplays people....)
Clutching - argubly cold
AWPing - niko
Pistols - NiKo
Consistency - coldzera
Stats - well cold but its a little bit meh,cold is having consistant 1.22 while niko is going from 1.15-1.3(sort to say not meaning those exact numbers)
In terms of achievements-i don't have a clue
Who do you think is better? Niko
imo niko is overall better player however you're comparing two players who're pretty much the same while the difference being is that niko never passed a group stage on the major which i am not nessesary counting as something most important as i am also not counting cold's jumping 4k as an achivment but its worth mentioning both,the reason why im putting niko ahead is because he's capable of igling and still fragging while cold is being "supportive" igl from time to time.
"Stats - Both are insane"
Sigh, and I thought this was actually gonna be a semi-interesting, semi-decent analysis, coupled with stats you can easily just fucking look up on this very same site, but it's just some useless nerd saying "Yeah, both are pretty good, one can do some things better than the other".
Cold is better at clutching for sure
cold is like messi he has a great team which effect his stats.Niko is like ronaldo always needs to carry in mouse - faze.
cold likes ecofragging btw
hm i don't know , they are both great players but i will say NiKo , he has the better aim at almost every weapon , they are both good in clutches. coldzera is great as well , he maybe has a better game sense , but niko is smart as well. In terms of stats niko is has the best stats overall in 2017 and last 3 months , and being an entry is hard as well. coldzera has a lot of frags on exit/eco and a personal decoy (TACO). Cold seems to me more like a K/D player than an actually impactful player , only guy that i give a lot of credits from SK is Fallen because he saves SK's ass everytime in importants rounds , guess he turns that hardwork.exe :) , jk.
stopped reading here: Consistency - coldzera, not by far
how so? niko is NOT even consistent while cold is the most consistent player that ever existed in csgo.
i think both of them are the best players atm but i cant choose one because they could easily fit together
its pretty easy. Coldzera has been performing much much much better on major o he is the best player 2017 . But i agree in every other aspect they are pretty even
both are great teambaiters and play their roles well... outside of their roles, niko is far more versatile.
NiKo chokes sometimes, he needs to work on his emotional side, I lost count of times the camera man recorded NiKo after a round and he is feeling the pressure of a round lost or a tight game, despite this they are very similar in a lot of ways.
Aim - NiKo
Gamesense - cold
Clutching - cold
AWPing - cold
Pistols - NiKo
Consistency - coldzera
Stats - cold
NiKo is just 19 or 20 y/o he is probably gonna become one of the best in history but not right now
you're ridiculous mate.
the best player is SIXER by far
niko can join any team and fuk shit up and be atleast top 5.
Cold can do the same but his stats will fall of and he will be top 8 player .
Problem with niko is that it seems he falls easily under pressure.
I can't believe how retarded people can be.
It might seem to be a cool question trying to determine who is the best. But the truth is that there are multiple aspects to be considered since it is a f'ing team sport.
Most people in here are silvers who never played in a team seriously/competitively. Have you ever played with bad people on your team and compared your match with another one where you had good mates? To translate this to the above mentioned retards, if your team overall performs bad, you will not play your best - in fact, this already makes the question become redundant. By the way, have you every tried to switch your role from lurking to entry fragging? Did you notice any impact on your statistics?
I mean, comparing achievement...by doing that, like what in the actual f*ck is the expressiveness in terms of how good an individual player is compared to another one?
To find out exactly who has better abilities, you would have to setup both player under the exact same conditions/environment etc. This will never happen.
Seriously this topic is massively useless but entertaining to share each others thoughts. Also fun to see brazilians go mad at people claiming Niko > Coldzera
Btw Niko > coldzera LUL
Cold > Niko
In every possible way
niko achieved more than cold ??
Niko achieved more? U must be kidding.
talk about tittles and hard carrying on important matches
cold is better but holy shit it's insane seeing all of these biased Brazilians commenting lol. I kinda agree with what you wrote OP - I'd say coldzera is more than a "little" consistent, but at the same time, the team is set up much more around him, so it's less impressive.
Overall, I'd say cold but it's still close enough that the last few events of the year could make a difference. Keep in mind that fer was SK's best player at the start of the year.
Pistols Coldzera, deagle Niko
cold. He always shows up on lan and leads the team in the big games
Coldzera,he is at tier1 since 2016 ,NiKo just since march i think,but NiKo is very close,i go with coldzera just because i'm a sk gaming fan
''Consistency - coldzera, not by far''
are u kidding right?
Niko is main awp lmao,he forced to rifler on Faze ,Niko awp would destroy Cold
Hard to say, Coldzera has had more chances to plan in finals and play-offs especially 2015-2016, he has had much more help though in that FalleN is a great IGL, Fer excellent agro player etc whereas Niko was struggling away in Mouse top fragging but not often making it out of groups. Raw skill side by side I feel like I'd edge it to Niko, who does have flashier kills sometimes but Cold is super consistent and he's got great gamesense to boot.
I agree with but in achievements...Sk won 7 tournaments and 4 of their 7 tournaments they won against Faze and Astralis on Grand finals or semi finals...
Niko achieved more? lol
You mean the last major 0/3?
NoT Cry Boys :)
Niko achieved more???? wtf
SK won IEM Sydney, EPL S5, ECS S3, ESL Cologne, Epicenter, Blast and a shit torunment (USD 2.000.000).
Faze won ESL NY, ELEAGUE Premier and StarLadder (USD 1.550.000).
cold achieved way more than niko this year
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