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Intel i7 8700 or i5 8400
Argentina mazelz 
Hi! I'm building a PC but I'm not sure wheter to buy i5 8400 or i7 8700(non K). It will be mostly for gaming but at some point I would like to stream. I know both CPU are good for games but when streaming I'm not sure. The CPU will be paired with an ASUS STRIX 1080 8GB. Not looking to play on very high grapichs. Just want to play on medium graphics CS:GO and DotA2 at 1080p 60fps, wich I would like to stream. On other games I dont give a fuk about graphics. This is my list: pcpartpicker.com/list/3HQfJV Give me ur opinions please!
2017-12-03 20:50
yes
2017-12-03 20:50
no
2017-12-03 22:51
#2
Hungary powi 
45-50 fps good gamung
2017-12-03 20:52
#3
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United Kingdom AlywOw 
Go for a more reliable case. Rest seems to be fine and yea keep the i7.
2017-12-03 20:54
bad time to buy PC imo. RAM and GPU prices crazy atm. My advice is wait for new year
2017-12-03 20:55
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Kaze | 
Portugal sennsei 
Your build is fine. But I don't think you need a GTX 1080.
2017-12-03 20:57
#6
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Europe TheWiber 
Buy i7. I have seen youtubeers streaming with i5 8th gen and it was laggy AF. 6 cores are fine, but when you have to stream and play with high framerates and powering GTX 1080, i5 will start bottlenecking. Preferably I would choose k model as Z370 is motherboard made for overclocking. It is a bit of waste of money to buy non overclockable CPU and pair it with overclockable motherboard. In case you will buy k model; you don't have to overclock, you can just leave Intel's Turbo Boost do its job (boosting frequencies when they are needed). EDIT: Don't cheap out on HDD, buy atleast WD Black 1 TB or higher capacity. Thank me later.
2017-12-03 21:02
Thank you for the advice! For the i7 8700K wich cooler would u recommend?
2017-12-03 21:54
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Sweden s4miz 
cooler master hyper 212 evo (cheap) noctua nh-d15 (best performance) or an AIO cooler (watercooling)
2017-12-03 23:09
#39
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Europe TheWiber 
If you can find anything from be quiet!, that's I can personally recommend.
2017-12-04 20:55
#7
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Ukraine cpt_Muffin 
ever considered to go with ryzen?
2017-12-03 21:04
There is no point picking non overclockable cpu and pair it with high end mobo for overclocking . Let me help you, much stronger pc for your needs (for less $), especially if you are playing on 1080p monitor, you really dont need gtx 1080. This is blazing fast, overclockable, and can even handle 1440p with ease pcpartpicker.com/list/vBRgRG
2017-12-03 21:12
+1
2017-12-03 21:10
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EliGE | 
Brazil thedeh 
+1, is the 1070 ti currently cheaper than a 1080?
2017-12-03 21:18
Yeah
2017-12-03 21:18
#19
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United Kingdom AlywOw 
This is a rubbish
2017-12-03 21:21
Thank u man! The 1070 is a good option aswell for my need as you say. I'll consider an overclockeable CPU and a 1070 for sure.
2017-12-03 21:49
i think csgo around 60 70fps and gta 20fps
2017-12-03 21:07
Argentina and so expensive PC parts? Dude, stop trolling.
2017-12-03 21:07
Not trolling at all. First time building a PC. Parts in Argentina are ~40% or something like that more expensive.
2017-12-03 21:39
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Slovakia ypsylonnn 
Id buy 8600k instead
2017-12-03 21:08
#13
leo^ | 
United States wes33 
For just gaming it wouldn't matter, but since you said you want to stream definitely the i7.
2017-12-03 21:13
you can stream on your Graphic card and take i5, 1080 is way to much for 1080p, and also for cs go and dota, even games like witcher 3, lara croft with ultra setting cant load gtx 1080 on full hd
2017-12-03 21:14
ryzen 5 1600x
2017-12-03 21:16
#16
Twistzz | 
Brazil vhoks 
If you're really gonna stream, then go for i7, otherwise the i5 is just fine. And the GTX 1080 is totally overkill if not for intensive graphics, just an GTX 1060 6Gb is enough for less than half the price. But if you really want the GTX 1080, get an overclockable CPU, otherwise the potential of an high-end GPU is hindered. Also, don't buy GPU for future proofing because it's not worth any longer, just sell your used GPU when you want to get an newer one.
2017-12-03 21:18
>Buying powerful PC >"Not looking to play on very high grapichs. Just want to play on medium graphics CS:GO and DotA2 at 1080p 60fps, wich I would like to stream. On other games I dont give a fuk about graphics. " Seems legit
2017-12-03 21:34
If streaming I wont play with high graphics. On other games like dirt, doom, rise of the tomb raider I would.
2017-12-03 21:43
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Europe Spoonman20 
I recommend the i7 processors over the i5 ones. Higher number = higher quality. I hope I helped you, cheers!
2017-12-03 21:36
dont buy Z370 if you cant overclock, pretty sure the B(whatever the name of this Gen is) will release soon and you only have to pay half the price for a decent mobo
2017-12-03 21:38
i mean you can stream with the i5 aswell, but the i7 would make it even better, but you need to have some good cooler if you want to oc and a good mainboard (vrm's start overheating on the cheaper ones) aswell, for games only the i5 would obviously be the better choice
2017-12-03 21:38
oh didnt see that you want the non K version
2017-12-03 21:39
>Not looking to play on very high grapichs. Just want to play on medium graphics >ASUS STRIX 1080 8GB nice brain
2017-12-03 21:39
#30
RpK | 
France Hoodk1ngz 
Working myself in an eSport Store (LDLC) I can tell you CS:GO only uses 4 cores, so taking an intel series 8 will only be effective on an i3-8350k (4x4GHz with 8mb of cache). The i5/i7 are 6 cores. Otherwise the best choice is i7-7700k (4x4,2GHz). Taking a 6 core processor (i5&i7 series 8) will lower your FPS in CS:GO in order to stream. I therefore don't recommend them at the moment. Maybe when Panorama & Source 2 come in CS:GO the game might handle processors using 5+ cores :) Don't buy anything over a 1060 6GB for CS:GO, unless its for other games. Best bang for the buck config is : Motherboard : MSI Z370 A-PRO CPU : i3-8350k (and a BeQuiet PureRock for the cooling) RAM : 2x8GB DDR4 2400MHz (preferably CL14, the lower the CL is, the better the response timing is) (if you don't stream 8GBs is enough) GPU : Whatever aslong as its 1050ti or better. PSU : 500-600W, 80+ Bronze, doesn't matter if its modular or not unless you take a 1080 and there you might want a semi-modular or full modular. Case : Whatever you want aslong as it fits in. I recommend Fractal Design cases or NZXT S340 Elite. Good for their prices. For silence BeQuiet cases are the best, but they're a bit cheap in terms of quality. Case Fans : BeQuiet Silent Wings are the most silent ones if you have to buy some. Mouse : Zowie EC/FK versions. Mousepad : Zowie GS-R or Steelseries QCK Heavy Headset : HyperX Cloud (5.1, for CS:GO only) or HyperX Cloud II (7.1, if you play other games than CSGO) Screen : BenQ ZOWIE XL2411P (144HZ, just really really really great for CSGO) Keyboard : HyperX Alloy, or Corsair K70 if you have the money (red/brown switch), the best (not the most good looking ones) are the Ducky Channel, but hard to find. Accessories : Zowie Camade (good for cable management and durability of your mouse cable, also to not fuck up in game :) )
2017-12-03 21:54
#31
RpK | 
France Hoodk1ngz 
otherwise if you go for the i7-7700k, just replace the MSI-Z370 A-PRO by a MSI Z270 A-PRO, and the cooler by a DarkRock Pro 3 from BeQuiet. I strongly disrecommend buying the i5-i7 series 8 for CSGO, if you play other games (newers ones) then it's a good buy :)
2017-12-03 22:07
Thank you! I want decent fps on CS:GO but new games looks really nice. Would you recommend the EVGA 650W GQ 80+ Gold? If going for the i7 8700K and a 1070 GPU? Also I want an UPS, do you think that with a 650VA is enough considering a 24'' 1080p 60hz monitor?
2017-12-03 22:50
#36
RpK | 
France Hoodk1ngz 
Hey, 650W 80+ Gold is good ! Taking a intel core "K" version is always better especially considering the motherboards (Z370) are all made for overclocking. Take a 1070ti considering its nearly the same price, its much better for the money spent (1070ti is nearly a 1080 at the 1070's price). Avoid Inno3D for the GPU; Concerning a UPS, i'd recommend between 800 and 1000VA, to give you more time to shutdown if you have a power outtage. But 650VA should work, just leaves you less time to shutdown :) You need to take a sinusoidal UPS in order to work well with your PSU (650W) The i7-8700k is the best choice for a long term multi-task using, if you plan to play other games than CS:GO, then it's the right choice. Make sure to get a sufficent cooling system (Noctua NH-D15 or Bequiet dark rock pro 3 atleast, or watercooling from corsair h115i if you have the budget for it) then your CPU will really work like it's intended to. For the end, get a 144HZ screen, trust me on that, this is the best choice I made the last years ;)
2017-12-04 01:29
#37
RpK | 
France Hoodk1ngz 
Also consider this for your SSD choice, SSDs M.2 PCI-E nVME are 5 to 7 times faster than regular SATA SSDs, if you're looking for the fastest components, i'd recommend you check on Corsair MP500, or Samsung Pro 960 :) GPU : Take MSI or Asus preferably, 1070ti doesn't require to get 3 fans, but it's a bit better if you can afford it, don't go on single fans GPUs if you can.
2017-12-04 01:34
#38
RpK | 
France Hoodk1ngz 
Here is a list of what I would do, bigger budget for a much faster SSD and a great watercooling. Motherboard doesn't look RGB at all though, any MSI/Asus Z370 is good, don't spend too much on it unless you want it for the design :) Here is how my computer looks like (bought everything by performance 1st, then design) steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/87524..
2017-12-04 01:50
#40
RpK | 
France Hoodk1ngz 
2017-12-04 21:41
hahahaahah
2017-12-03 22:50
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