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Finland worse than Sweden
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New Zealand NewZealand 
upnorth.eu/finnish-court-bans-neo-nazi-g.. even sweden isnt this bad...
2017-12-04 14:54
if they were acting unlawfully then lock them up. But "banning them" isn't okay imo cus its free speech afterall
2017-12-04 14:56
Depending, since Nazi limited free speech big time, let them experience their solution themselves.
2017-12-04 14:59
resolving hate with hate okay.... salty cos bad at wars?
2017-12-04 15:00
+1
2017-12-04 15:00
I'm not salty, bro, I explain the logic of this decision, and I wasn't part of the decision process or part of Finnish people as far as can tell. But I guess Ad Nomined aggressor like you are too idiot to understand.
2017-12-04 15:02
Ad Nomined lul
2017-12-05 12:48
#31
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Israel MemeMachine 
implying germany is good at wars
2017-12-04 15:24
atleast they didn't surrender
2017-12-04 15:24
tell that to %90 of the women that lived in berlin during 45. or their kids. more ivans than hans's.
2017-12-04 15:57
now more erdogans then hans
2017-12-04 16:13
"they"
2017-12-05 12:55
#101
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Slovakia AdorrioN 
What about May 8 1945 in Berlin, that wasn’t surrender?
2017-12-05 15:01
germany isn't good at wars???
2017-12-04 20:31
salty jew
2017-12-05 04:26
i think ur confused burger
2017-12-05 13:27
no i was obv talking about #31
2017-12-05 20:44
ISIS are allowed to operate in Finland so I highly doubt this is the case
2017-12-04 14:59
"ISIS are allowed to operate in Finland" elaborate?
2017-12-04 14:59
not all Muslims are terrorists but all terrorists are Muslim
2017-12-04 15:05
#69
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Europe glowhand 
not all Christian is KKK, but all KKK is Christian, not all Nazi is Germany, but all Nazi is Germany :(
2017-12-05 07:10
Not true hitler was a nazi nut he was from austria
2017-12-05 15:07
nt kangaroo bitch
2017-12-04 15:11
nt fake flagger perkele
2017-12-04 15:11
According to the article, - 'The ruling stated that the association’s activities are not protected within the rights of association and freedom of speech, since they violate the fundamental human rights of others'. I also don't know anything about this besides OP's article so take that with a grain of salt
2017-12-04 15:02
"if they were acting unlawfully then lock them up."
2017-12-04 15:03
Nazis crying about free speech. So sad. Why should they let you ruin countries with Russia funded fascism?
2017-12-05 15:53
#9
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Finland Taynz 
Nt hitler
2017-12-04 15:03
i love Finland :*
2017-12-04 15:04
#26
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Sweden 4Sweeeden 
+1 Fuck Finlandistan.
2017-12-04 15:21
fuck refugees? i thought u were very liberal
2017-12-04 15:22
only to brazilians
2017-12-04 15:24
#99
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Sweden 4Sweeeden 
Brazilians are not refugees.
2017-12-05 14:42
#100
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Sweden 4Sweeeden 
1/88 b8 m8
2017-12-05 14:42
4sweden are u a cuck? nvm u are swedish ofc u are sry for asking
2017-12-04 15:25
#41
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Sweden 4Sweeeden 
HansGillarImmigranter why are u a fake flagger? nvm u are a fakeflagging swedish kid ofc. sry for asking.
2017-12-04 15:48
proof he is?
2017-12-04 15:55
#45
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Sweden 4Sweeeden 
"Hans gillar immigranter" is Swedish. It means "Hans (A name, duh) likes immigrants" in Swedish.
2017-12-04 16:37
wow exposed
2017-12-05 03:11
#58
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Sweden 4Sweeeden 
+1
2017-12-05 03:11
Irony level over 9000, or have you never visited Finland in your life before?
2017-12-05 05:01
#73
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Sweden 4Sweeeden 
Irony level over 9000 obv ^^
2017-12-05 11:19
Ah, sorry then. Hard to tell at 6 in the morning. D:
2017-12-05 14:38
lmao are u some kind of lawyer :::D? Hate talk isnt enjoying free speech status in finland, so court made right decision to ban. If u read the decision u would understand, but obv u didnt even bother to read it.
2017-12-05 03:14
so if i say i hate islam because the religion is sexist would you consider that free speech or hate speech?
2017-12-05 04:14
idk, probably free speech. Why?
2017-12-05 12:26
so what is wrong with the nordic resistance how are they not covered by it?
2017-12-05 12:47
Idk coz im not lawyer. It was stated by a court that free speech doesnt cover hate talk in their situation.
2017-12-05 12:53
but you cant define hate speech me saying the government is run by morons and we shouldnt vote for them again can be considered hate speech
2017-12-05 12:54
They defined it in the court. That probably cant be considered as hate speech. Bit different to call someone morons than justify violence and support it.
2017-12-05 13:08
where are they supporting violence?
2017-12-05 13:10
Organizing monetary help and giving credit for one of their member who was sentenced because he killed someone
2017-12-05 13:21
Giving monetary help is allowed
2017-12-05 13:28
Yes. And they showed support for violence by doing that.
2017-12-05 13:30
That isn't true, that is like claiming every lawyer condones murder or some shit
2017-12-05 13:31
lol court made that decision, so thats true? I believe 100% in finnish justice system.
2017-12-05 13:33
Because the courts have never been wrong?
2017-12-05 13:34
So when exactly has finnish justice system been wrong?
2017-12-05 13:39
im sure it has nearly every justice system has
2017-12-05 13:40
blabla. Didnt find any.
2017-12-05 15:23
Anneli Auer xd
2017-12-05 19:45
Justice system released her and gave compensation. No harm done.
2017-12-05 20:30
No it wouldn't be. Basically you can call out the government to be bad, incompetent or even say they are outright criminals. It wont be hate speech, you won't be charged for saying it. However if you call them out in a way that relies on discrimination, your speech might not be protected by free speech. Anyway, its always established on a case by case basis and there are a lot of precedents around that help the judges in applying the law. In this case, it was pretty straightforward how the ruling was going to go. PVL's aims as organization are against the law as they defy the fundamental rights of others. I bet it doesn't help that one of their members killed a person in the Railway station of Helsinki earlier this year either. They were also engaged in various illegal activities, they incited to violence against people they labelled "enemies" among other nasty things so the society really is better off without them. -Lawyer from Finland
2017-12-05 20:09
True
2017-12-05 08:54
#130
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United States Degree|CSGO 
America is technically one of the only countries with true free speech. A lot of European countries have outlawed Nazi symbolism and ideals
2017-12-08 03:10
finnland is a third world snow country just like russia, iceland and estonia
2017-12-04 15:06
there isnt really snow anymore here,it stays for like 1 day and next day its gone,then its just rain after that
2017-12-04 15:07
#54
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Other TJ_HOTBOY 
#truth #weouthere
2017-12-04 23:49
Hi im from little part of south and im talking about whole finland
2017-12-05 07:07
coming from Germany xddd
2017-12-04 15:12
>normal weather -5°C to 40°C >was voted for the best country of the world in 2016 >good economy, good education >one of the leading countries in export >good healthcare and low jobless rate >germany >third world pick one
2017-12-04 15:14
#20
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Finland Cumhur2004 
germany best world because it takes many immigrants
2017-12-04 15:16
our country profits from it so yes
2017-12-04 15:16
#25
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Finland RamboAAA 
Profits? All the terrorist attacks, rapes and murders, yea that's amazing profit !
2017-12-04 15:20
ISIS is dying and there was only like 3 terrorist attacks here where only 1 time people died. finnland also had a machete men screaming allah akbar i remember :) murders? haven't heard of any
2017-12-04 15:21
#36
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Finland RamboAAA 
Haven't heard of any? There has been 30 honor murders this year and ill give u few links, these are like 00000000000000000000.00000000000000001% of all the murders made by immigrants in germany independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/four.. thelocal.de/20170608/syrian-refugee-stab.. bbc.com/news/world-europe-36882445 express.co.uk/news/world/739620/Maria-La.. thejournal.ie/child-stabbed-refugee-shel.. (this was in finnish news as well for days) newsweek.com/muslim-refugee-stab-christi.. and lot's of attacks..(knife etc..)
2017-12-04 15:30
30 murders in 2 years in a population of 82 million (200.000 immigrants from syria/irak/africa) isn't that much dude. 40-50 murders happen in ONE day in america
2017-12-04 15:33
yeah but these are simply the ones that make the news
2017-12-04 15:34
i can guarantee you there is news about EVERY single murder in germany. it wont necessarily be on the biggest media/news but it is listed in some sorth of local media. if you google "refugee murders in germany" or smth like that you will 100% find results.
2017-12-04 15:35
yeah but scrolling through them all to find each one would take weeks
2017-12-05 04:55
Germany is pretty much turkey 2 at this point lol
2017-12-05 09:05
There has been over 30 incidents of muslim refugees acting out in germany...
2017-12-05 15:05
30 incidents is much for 2 years in a population of nearly 83 million? in the USA everyday 44 murders accur on an average
2017-12-05 19:39
nationsonline.org/oneworld/third_world_c.. "finland is a third world country"
2017-12-04 15:16
by who? only because these immigrants arent counted as unemployed
2017-12-04 15:17
it was all around tv/internet idk
2017-12-04 15:19
#29
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Sweden 4Sweeeden 
Germany is 3rd world tho. Thanks to Merkel. Sorry to say delusional German. Inb4 "LOL Sweden talking", i didnt say that Sweden is not a 3rd world.
2017-12-04 15:22
if you can protect yourself it's not that bad here. its all exaggerated by youtube videos and media. if you can't defend yourself against retards then countries like russia/poland aren't any safer either
2017-12-04 15:25
"It's all exaggerated by proof"
2017-12-04 23:53
media and youtube video proof exactly what? there's many fake videos that claimed to be filmed in germany and then later people found out it's at other places. also many old videos from turks/albanians etc misbehaving and saying its new from the 2016 refugee wave
2017-12-05 00:34
Weather and temperature have got nothing to do with anything retard
2017-12-05 20:40
really? why is africa so poor then?
2017-12-05 21:40
why is saudi arabia so rich? oh and australia. its pretty fucking hot in australia too but things seem to be working fine there
2017-12-09 01:38
lul how can Mongolians be nazi ?
2017-12-04 15:22
#37
Finland zrou 
The whole show was quite ridiculous, ban for political reasons, clearly. However, people have the right to meet and do whatever they want, so the things will go on, i guess.
2017-12-04 15:33
#46
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World Nastradoomus 
So they have the right to harass people? Beat up people? Talk shit? Accuse? Terrorize? Are you fucking serious. These ppl are pure and evil nazi fucks! Freedom of speech does not have anything to do with this.
2017-12-04 16:43
#48
Finland zrou 
what I have seen, they behave quite normally. That harass ppl, beat up ppl, terrorize etc.. could u show some proofs? There was one case where some drugsniffer get kicked one time, and then died week after that couse he left the hospital without treatment or before treatment was over, he wanted to do more that sad life what he was living with drugs, than what he really needed. Real problem seems to be left anarchists, mainstreammedia and most of the politicians etc.. all over the world.
2017-12-04 18:13
#49
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World Nastradoomus 
Lol another brainswashed psycho. Have a good life!
2017-12-04 20:08
#50
Finland zrou 
And bankers are the biggest problem maybe. Anyway, u r might be one of those who dont know, or cant believe it. Society has come so fake that truth actually bothers people.
2017-12-04 20:29
mitä muuta /pol/ psykooseihin kuuluu?
2017-12-05 19:54
If you have nothing to say, why would you open your mouth? Same question for that first teenager too -> nastradoomus.
2017-12-07 06:58
Why would you use anecdote, its useless. District Court claims that PVL spreads hate speech and in addition it uses and enforces its members to use violence. The proofs are here(PAGE 9-12) vastarinta.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/0.. And what exactly is the problems with bankers?
2017-12-07 16:41
says the word flag
2017-12-04 23:25
#47
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World Nastradoomus 
If you sympathize finnish nazis i suggest you to take a trip to Russia and hang out with some local nazis. Bet you'd have really fun while at it.
2017-12-04 16:46
theyre not nazis not everyone who is right wing is a nazi
2017-12-04 22:42
Yep, this this this a million times over.
2017-12-05 05:02
#66
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World Nastradoomus 
im.mtv.fi/image/6683408/landscape16_9/10.. They're not nazis? LOL. They're as nazi as one can be and by supporting them you support violence and racism. You support hate. You support criminal behaviour and a bunch of psychopaths.
2017-12-05 06:12
media.gettyimages.com/photos/thousands-o.. I do not support violence nor racism, I do support the hatred of a religion that promotes murder and is responsible for most of the world's terrorism.
2017-12-05 07:01
#83
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Lithuania YungDavid 
hate, racism,sexism all buzzwords who have no meaning because theire so overused.
2017-12-05 12:55
#82
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Lithuania YungDavid 
+1
2017-12-05 12:54
+1
2017-12-05 04:25
These guys were not exactly "right wing"
2017-12-05 09:09
#75
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Finland no_man 
good
2017-12-05 12:31
#81
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Lithuania YungDavid 
no_man
2017-12-05 12:54
#79
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Lithuania YungDavid 
wtf, thats sad
2017-12-05 12:54
Big blow for freedom of speech. I agreed with a lot of their policies. Maybe not with the one where they wanted to merge all the Nordic countries into one big country, but most of the other ones.
2017-12-05 13:24
#105
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Iceland _natas_ 
Well Pekka, then you are a Nazi! A Socialist bastard
2017-12-05 15:15
I prefer "National Socialist", but thank you.
2017-12-05 15:16
#107
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Iceland _natas_ 
Same shit, People have tried it and failed. Socialism Communism Fascism National Socialism All failed hard because they are ideologies that does not apply to more than a small group of people. Applying it to a country and you will fail. Socialism in all forms will fail 10/10 times
2017-12-05 15:22
To be fair, national socialism wasn't really given that much time to see if it would work or not. It made Germany into one of the most powerful countries in history, but it most likely would have failed in the long run.
2017-12-05 15:28
#110
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Iceland _natas_ 
It doesnt matter if you gave it 100 years. SOCIALISM NEVER WORKS AT A LARGE SCALE! IT IS DOOMED TO FAIL! Ofc it would fail. Socialism is never ever ever the answer
2017-12-05 15:30
Isn't that what I just said?
2017-12-05 15:31
nationalsocialism is not socialism
2017-12-05 20:41
#93
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Europe xdavidlm 
Spanish independent justice is better Kappa
2017-12-05 13:31
#104
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Iceland _natas_ 
I hope Denmark, Sweden and Norway joins in, but they are too chicken shit to do it because MUH FREEDOM OF SPEEEACH
2017-12-05 15:15
Sweden, Finland, Daenmark .... what's the difference again ? They're the same shit all sucking merkel cock for gibs "Feminists who accept sharia" Just die already. Give it 2 generations
2017-12-05 15:31
france LUL
2017-12-05 20:41
ppl actually siding with nazies in this thread, wtf MEGALUL
2017-12-05 21:52
theyre not nazis
2017-12-06 06:32
I feel like everything about their system would just work with my mind so well. I wish I had experienced it
2017-12-08 02:28
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