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SK vs FaZe
NAF | 
Brazil lcsgear 
Cold (1.24 rating) = Niko (1.24 rating) FalleN (1.18 rating) = Guardian (1.18 rating) Fer (1.18 rating) > Olof (1.16 rating) Botz (1.18 rating < Rain (1.23 rating TACO (0.99 rating) > karring (0.98 rating) very close match, but i think SK got it :D
2017-12-07 03:29
Yes
2017-12-07 03:30
Yes, just compare ratings and you find the winner thats how csgo works
2017-12-07 04:10
+1 ...... -_-
2017-12-07 09:58
#2
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United States lekr0mancer 
sk will always beat faze
2017-12-07 03:30
#21
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Brazil L1zard1406 
Bo1 xD, i want to see a Bo3 Faze win against SK
2017-12-07 12:24
#27
fnx | 
Brazil Sunsh1ro 
now It will be bo5. I'm so excited for watch this grand final. ofc If SK-Faze do their job.
2017-12-07 13:12
#49
NiKo | 
Montenegro G1EX 
Incoming optic/fnatic and misfits/hellraisers final
2017-12-07 14:47
#55
fnx | 
Brazil Sunsh1ro 
why not haha?
2017-12-07 15:11
#61
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Brazil L1zard1406 
Wut
2017-12-07 16:43
#68
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Sweden ThorinEk 
that would make my day
2017-12-07 18:52
#69
NiKo | 
Portugal azetecapt 
ahahahhaha he fucked y so hard kek and y say " oh its bo1 "kek fking dick
2017-12-07 18:54
Head to head SK 10 Wins FAZE 4 Wins :oooo :>
2017-12-07 18:51
#76
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Brazil lulbrazillul 
its bo1 noob kkkk pt scene
2017-12-07 21:35
lul did i say poortugal has good csgo scene? No
2017-12-07 21:36
#78
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United States lekr0mancer 
and who won the tournament?
2017-12-08 01:17
triggerd
2017-12-11 08:47
#3
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United States K1ller7n19 
Don’t doubt it
2017-12-07 03:31
#4
NAF | 
Brazil lcsgear 
its 52% Sk 48% FaZe
2017-12-07 03:36
#5
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United States noobhead 
baiterzera same rating as niko
2017-12-07 03:38
Yes cuz cold is lurking rnow, so is harder to find easy kills, especially on TR-side. If he back to support/2nd entry his stats will be boosted again.
2017-12-07 04:21
#12
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United States noobhead 
sorry but he wont stop baiting taco for stats boost
2017-12-07 04:40
#13
Sf | 
Sweden MotherBitch 
Finally someone who isn't autistic. taco isn't bad, it's just that coldzera is using him as bait. So every round they lose is not Taco's fault it's coldzeras or fallens fault since they are the ones that want to use taco like that. Coldzera sucks, literally anyone could do the same thing if they had someone baiting for them.
2017-12-07 09:31
You have 0 knowledge about the game but I will not argue with u, people like u always have to be right even when its obvious that u r wrong so it would be waste of my time
2017-12-07 09:52
#17
Sf | 
Sweden MotherBitch 
3.3k hours over 2000 elo in faceit, smart csgo player.... has no knowledge about the game? ok. Reason why i know coldzera isn't as good as niko is because i literally use the same playstyle with the entry in my team. Sure you have to be good to be able to use it in a good way but don't say taco is shit just because he doesn't get frags. Why don't you try to entry frag in a pro game and let's see how it goes silver 1. Niko's aim > Coldzera. Coldzera's spray > Niko
2017-12-07 10:00
Of course NiKo has better aim, hes just not the better player out of them. I dont care about your elo, that doesnt support that you think you know how it is. With that being said you dont understand SKs system and overall coldzeras skillset (which is one of te best in the world, I could see only few somehow matching coldzera) because u would never write anything like that. Btw if you meant the part “but don't say taco is shit just because he doesn't get frags“ like I flame taco that he is a bad player - thats not correct at all, I would never say this about him, I know his role, his skillset and I find his job more than important for SKs success.
2017-12-07 12:58
Niko is already better than cold, same ratings playing for mousesports for 2.5 years and only 1 year in a good team, if u put niko playing cold's role, i guarantee u he will have even better stats.
2017-12-07 14:10
They actually have pretty similiar role and I tell u this - colds role leaves him in clutches a lot, that can be seen easily (most clutches out of any player in 2017) and he is much better clutcher than NiKo, NiKo may have better aim and pistols but thats it, nothing else.
2017-12-07 18:36
#70
NiKo | 
Portugal azetecapt 
Man NiKo with any weapon can do so much fking damage, like it's much more than aim m8, NiKo has something special, when i'm watching him playing you can see the real technique ! He's so good ! Cold, i think is more robotic, he doesn't fail that much, like, his sprays e.t.c are allways nice, and he seems really focused! They are different, but for me NiKo is the guy everyone wants to be ! He's the best one for me ! ;9
2017-12-07 19:06
I respect your opinion, I appreciate and respect people who come up with stuff similiar to what you wrote, thats you subjective look that has to be protected. I stand for an objective opinion, Im not a fan (or fanboy) of anyone but you could say Im some kind of critic when it comes down to anything. Btw, its nicely written by you
2017-12-07 20:16
#72
NiKo | 
Portugal azetecapt 
Thanks man, i really appreciate your answer! It feels really good to see that there is really nice people just like you, capable of understanding the others, being respectful, and cirtic has you said! Thank you !
2017-12-07 21:19
<3
2017-12-07 21:29
#28
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United Kingdom dxy^ 
Could i just say your hours and stats mean literally nothing. I can guarantee there's someone below 2000 elo who could outplay you so easily. 2000 elo doesn't make you smart. I do agree that Taco is not a bad player and is baited quite a bit but cold isn't only good for "bait" kills, He is a clutchmaster. Cold is one of the greatest players. If he never actually clutched or did anything useful then i could understand where you are coming from but you are wrong.
2017-12-07 13:17
Why is he always clutching? always last one alive, can u tell me why? exactly, baiting every single round, have u ever seem him go and clean one site like niko can do? never.
2017-12-07 14:09
#51
Sf | 
Sweden MotherBitch 
Niko dont clear sites often, and nikos baiting dont involve olofmeister dying. Niko baits people out by retro lurking like happy, going for information plays and opening up the site opposite of where his team made noise or is. Cold baits taco to trade both taco and himself. Diffrent players diffrent playstyles.
2017-12-07 14:50
Niko doesnt clear sites often? even on a 2v2 situation niko is the guy you know will go and clear site, cold is the guy behind the 1st to trade him
2017-12-07 15:12
#58
Sf | 
Sweden MotherBitch 
I said niko dont clear sites often yes coldzera baits. Im on your side im just dumbing it out for the people that dont understand.
2017-12-07 15:18
Misread what you said lmao my bad
2017-12-07 16:05
#48
Sf | 
Sweden MotherBitch 
There is literally not a single soul under 2000 elo who could beat me at lan if i had a good pc. I average 140 fps with occasional drops to 80. My internet is good but provider fuck it up sometimes by packet loss and choke. What i see on my screen is rarely the same as the pov so i have to hold really wide angles leading to people being able to outaim sometimes if they know where i am. Im not even fucking kidding you but there are so many fucking pro teams that have players that i could easily fucking replace and what annoys me the most is i cant prove it until i get a good pc. I dont even know if im good enough to be pro with a proper pc who doesn't frame drop everytime an enemy renders on my screen. Its not hard to become good at csgo, why does everyone think that? As long as you don't waste your hours on unnecesarry shit you could go pro in csgo. I solo queued from silver V to global. Then i solo queued and duo queued from lvl 1 to lvl 10. I know what the fuck i am on about, coldzera is average at clutching he relies on his aim everytime he clutches and you cannot call him a god just because he does that, fer and boltz are way better in clutch situations than cold is. Coldzera is a good player but the reason why his stats are so fucking high is because he is basically playing for 2 players. Coldzera would rather get 2 kills and make him and taco die than gambling on both of them getting a frag each. I respect the way they think but stop calling taco trash here on hltv is all im annoyed about.
2017-12-07 14:47
Nigga I play on 30 FPS and am global with 2k hours. Shut yo bitchass mouth up with this "low FPS shit" you shit and should deal with it
2017-12-07 18:49
#79
Sf | 
Sweden MotherBitch 
Are you level 10 on faceit? No shut the fuck up then. Global aint shit you retarded fuck. If you think global players are good you need some serious help.
2017-12-08 08:23
#90
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United Kingdom dxy^ 
One of the most cockiest players alive. Next minute you're going to be the self-proclaimed best player in csgo. Gtfo here. You're not amazing for reacing faceit level 10. Get to pro league and start carrying every game then come back and say no one under 2000 elo cant beat you. Scrub.
2017-12-11 19:09
#22
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Australia Tomb0mb2912 
He is correct. Just watch the sk optic game at the esl finals. He baited the whole time
2017-12-07 12:27
I dont need to argue with people who have him fixed in their minds as baiter or eco fragger or both, same case as device, just people not seeing things the way they are.
2017-12-07 13:00
#52
Sf | 
Sweden MotherBitch 
Device doesn't bait btw, it's just that he is consistant and rarely gets more than 2 frags or flashy plays. He is a solid player.
2017-12-07 14:51
Thats exactly what I meant if you missunderstood.
2017-12-07 18:38
#6
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Lithuania ltuHoneyBadger 
faze potential have 3 all star at the same time but sk played together for longer so 55 45 to faze
2017-12-07 03:41
#19
Sf | 
Sweden MotherBitch 
If final is Bo3 Faze will win 2 1 If final is Bo5 SK will win 3 2
2017-12-07 09:59
#65
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Brazil SucessoEaLama 
i support sk, but i think it´s 50/50 match, it depends on how TACO is playing (karrigan as well but more about TACO) because if taco plays in the same level as rain then, sk will beat faze
2017-12-07 18:44
#82
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Brazil adre221 
KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKkk 60-40 SK - Faze, and I'm being generous, considering their history
2017-12-08 09:05
#7
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United States WACDixon 
ez 4 astralis
2017-12-07 03:42
total rating of sk 1.24+1.18*3+.99=5.77 faze 1.24+1.18+1.16+1.23+.98=5.79 why so ezyy fr faze its time 2 kick botack sk cant win epl with botaco
2017-12-07 04:04
#10
minet | 
Russia websnap 
HR vs OpTic
2017-12-07 04:13
#23
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Australia Tomb0mb2912 
You smart
2017-12-07 12:27
damn look at Mr sexy rain with the high af rating
2017-12-07 09:42
ez sk
2017-12-07 09:44
Ez4godzera
2017-12-07 12:28
#29
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Europe shakalele 
faze never beat yet sk on bo3, it could be the first time! what a great match would be sk vs faze. two super strong teams. <3
2017-12-07 13:49
#30
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Estonia Athreos 
It won't happen
2017-12-07 13:50
#31
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Brazil GKR48 
Sk and faze will choke and lose on the semis
2017-12-07 13:54
#32
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Europe shakalele 
they both lookin good, i don't think they should choke on semis, and @athreos why did u say that it won't happen? u never know. they are both good, and we have no idea what to expect from teams what they have to ready for us and for they enemies.
2017-12-07 13:57
The final is BO5 FaZe will presumeably ban cobble SK will ban Nuke Faze pick Inferno (secure faze win) SK pick Train (secure SK win) Faze pick mirage (slight edge for faze) SK pick Cache (slight edge for SK) Overpass left as the decider This way, it all comes down to who wins on Overpass
2017-12-07 14:02
+1 Close one, but Faze is looking pretty solid on overpass this tournament, so I give them the edge on this.
2017-12-07 14:07
They sure do, they looked solid on mirage too, only inferno had some silly mistakes, but luckily for Faze Inferno isn't among SK's best maps.
2017-12-07 14:23
#43
fer | 
Brazil calvinzera 
sk played overpass 2 times this tournament and won easily
2017-12-07 14:28
This is true, however, SK won against Nip and North, two teams that underperformed massively in this tournament, while Faze won on overpass against Hellraisers, a team that has been playing very well and ended up 2nd in the group. This is why I won't give an edge to either of the teams, they haven't proven themselves onh this map during this tournament, but both teams can play it.
2017-12-07 14:37
#46
fer | 
Brazil calvinzera 
sk never lose in overpass against FaZe in epicenter was 16 - 2... but lets forget the past, this will be a great game for us to close the year.
2017-12-07 14:44
If you bring up the past you'll let old stats blind you mate, it's about whether they will win the map right now :) Both teams have the skills and strats to win, which is why a grand final with these 2 is to be preferred. I'm not even sure who I hope is gonna win, I just hope they're gonna play at least 4 maps of great counterstrike :D
2017-12-07 14:47
#50
fer | 
Brazil calvinzera 
i think this gonna be 5 maps and end with OT xD better to lovers of cs sad to my heart
2017-12-07 14:49
#54
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Germany WYU 
somehow i think that this is going to be one of the best finals we have seen 2017
2017-12-07 15:06
I absolutely agree, and to think how depressing it would be if any of these teams don't make it to the finals :( They simply have to, for the sake of the fans! xD
2017-12-07 15:17
#83
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Brazil adre221 
Are you going to argue that winning against hellraisers is more impressive than winning against north and nip? KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
2017-12-08 09:07
No, I'm arguing that winning against the team that finished 2nd in a group is more impressive than winning against teams that doesn't, but finally, I'm saying that this doesn't matter enough for me to give an edge to any of the teams, we'll just have to see how the match unfolds :)
2017-12-08 13:08
#84
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Brazil adre221 
Also in cs there is no such thing as a secure win
2017-12-08 09:09
It's true that in theory every team can make an upset on every map, but rather than writing a whole god damn essay about what I mean when I say "secure win" I'd rather just trust in HLTV-users to make the right interpretation :) I could also have written "huge edge for Faze/SK" etc. /Peace
2017-12-08 13:11
#34
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Slovakia TrYx_T 
These KD stats doesnt mean anything... It will all depend on : Pistol rounds,reset rounds, clutch rounds, plays by teams ;)
2017-12-07 14:02
We can look at averages but it depends map pool, and who is performing on the day?
2017-12-07 14:11
You should have used only LAN stats
2017-12-07 14:14
51% SK 49% SK But I hope that the team that plays better, wins the torunament <3
2017-12-07 14:18
How come SK have a slight edge against SK? xD lelelelel
2017-12-07 14:38
#42
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Sweden GATER 
#FaZeUp
2017-12-07 14:25
#53
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Germany Vini_1337 
talking about Faze SK when in reality it will be Fnatic - SK lmao
2017-12-07 14:53
#60
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United States noobhead 
if fnatic wins against optic
2017-12-07 16:07
#62
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Venezuela maaverick 
Idk Bro, i think that this tournament will be defined 'cause of the map picks karrigan it's pretty smart tho, but we'll see, but yes you're right they're pretty close. EDIT: ofc if SK and FaZe wins 'cause HR are doing good Fnatic too, and seangares it's so smart, even optic are doing great. Sick Tournament BTW. -Love <3
2017-12-07 16:51
real stats: FaZe: NiKo 1.24 rating rain 1.15 rating GuardiaN 1.13 rating olofmeister 1.07 rating karrigan 0.96 rating SK: coldzera 1.25 rating fer 1.21 rating FalleN 1.13 rating boltz 1.12 rating TACO 0.95 rating
2017-12-07 21:31
2017 LAN stats
2017-12-07 21:32
SK got such an easy path to the finals, so fucking rigged I hope FaZe 3-0s them
2017-12-08 08:39
muh rigged muh these fuking cheaters fml
2017-12-08 08:56
+1
2017-12-08 09:45
yahaha brazilian logic ^^
2017-12-08 09:47
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