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FalleN in top 5?
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Brazil DRayyy 
he won a lot of tournaments this year and i think 3 MVP this year 1- Cold 2- NiKo 3- Fer 4- Rain / Fallen 5- rain/ Fallen
2017-12-07 03:43
2 mvp
2017-12-07 03:47
NiKo and rain in top5? GOOD JOKE HAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Check how many tournaments SK did win and how they did overall in all tournaments this year and then check same stats for FaZe, hopefully u then realize FAze doesn't deserve single place in top5 haha
2017-12-07 11:40
Why are u talking shit to me for saying fallen has 2 MVPs?
2017-12-07 11:43
#91
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Israel kick_hs_ffs 
Why are u talking shit to him for saying fallen has 2 MVPs?
2017-12-07 14:16
Why are u talking shit to fag for saying fallen has 2 MVPs?
2017-12-07 16:49
you swedish are weird
2017-12-08 00:04
why doesn't mexico have no good olympians? cause every fucker who can run swim or jump has crossed the border
2017-12-08 00:22
vertigo best map, never forgetti
2017-12-08 00:26
when we think of vertigo we never forgetti. all the moemories while we ate moms spaghetti. we salute this fallen map with lots of confetti these are my rhymes to vertigo do you think they are pretty?
2017-12-08 09:29
batistuta top1 vertigo player XD
2017-12-08 09:44
#108
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Brazil VeryFakeGuy 
Why are u talking shit to fag for saying fallen has 2 MVPs?
2017-12-08 01:41
you saying every single SK member should be in the top 5?
2017-12-08 09:32
not a major
2017-12-07 03:47
1- Taco 2- MSL 3- Karrigan 4- Xist 5- Fallen
2017-12-07 03:47
#4
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Brazil DRayyy 
seized??
2017-12-07 03:48
1- Taco 2- MSL 3- Karrigan 4- Xist 5- Fallen 6- Taz 7- ChrisJ 8- Neo 9- Zeus 10- Seized
2017-12-07 03:50
#6
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Brazil DRayyy 
like +1
2017-12-07 03:50
nub fallen and chrisj is good
2017-12-07 04:09
#40
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New Zealand NewZealand 
thats why theyre on his list idiot
2017-12-07 10:59
what u mean..taco msl seized is good?wtf
2017-12-07 12:04
#77
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New Zealand NewZealand 
yes???? thats why they are paid to play and no indians are
2017-12-07 12:12
ok donkey astralians
2017-12-07 12:18
#79
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New Zealand NewZealand 
is that a compliment? i know you guys like to fuck donkeys
2017-12-07 12:19
why so much hate?
2017-12-07 12:20
#81
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New Zealand NewZealand 
#78 Why so much hate
2017-12-07 12:21
that was just reply of #77
2017-12-07 12:23
#83
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New Zealand NewZealand 
why so much hate why call me donkey
2017-12-07 12:24
cause ik toxic astralians like u
2017-12-07 12:25
#88
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New Zealand NewZealand 
and i know indians who make nice curry your point?
2017-12-07 12:44
0. GODHUNDEN
2017-12-07 04:38
Denis "Decoy" Kostin
2017-12-07 11:24
#68
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Portugal whynotsrt10 
you forget ricardo fox pacheco!! :D
2017-12-07 11:42
#106
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Brazil sXegg 
Zeus? For sure someone of Gambit roster will enter the top 20, but i don't think that will be Zeus or Dosia.
2017-12-08 00:27
forgot sexer
2017-12-08 09:56
#39
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Poland Hell2k 
Taz Taco Xizt Carrygan MSL #FreeBnteT
2017-12-07 10:59
#42
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Brazil nxpntc 
No allu, no top
2017-12-07 11:02
-xizt +sexer
2017-12-07 11:28
Why is Rain top 5? You get top 5 for playing good 2 months out of the whole year?
2017-12-07 03:52
#8
Dezca | 
Canada PyroOOF 
If you think Rain has only been playing good for 2 months you have not been watching for long. Rain has only had 1 negative rating on LAN this year and that was EPICENTER.
2017-12-07 03:55
I watched every single LAN they've played in they has been good for about 2 months so far, before that he was actually shit and when I say that I'm not being a hater he was genuinely shit until the summer hit and has been good for 2 months, slumped again then had 1 more good tournament the whole year.
2017-12-07 03:58
You're full of shit my dude. Before summer rain wasn't what he was now, of course, everyone knows that. However, he performed well all year. He was a 100% pure entry before the summer, his role was extremely tough, his rate of success was insanely high at the time, but the task he was given was somewhat alike to TACO, yet he actually managed to find success. Even at that time he had his insane performances at Starseries, IEM Sydney, etc.. he was a top 15 or top 10 player in the first half of 2017 and in the second half he's holding a top 1 spot, only one who can contend it is really NiKo or Coldzera. Having that much of a performance is insane and should easily be top 5 in the year if he continues his performance for ECS and EPL finals.
2017-12-07 04:09
Managed to find success yes never passing a group stage for 5 months until NiKo joined. And it's not like those older FaZe/Kinguin lineups were bad they weren't the team just didn't have any leadership at the time. I do not think Rain deserves top 5 for a good run of form he was not even close to the level he's playing at now literally not even close he was mediocre, his team was mediocre and under performing that's why all these players were brought in, if Rain was a true super star player there never would of changed 4 players in the team. You're actually the one full of shit, before NiKo joined the team the guy didn't even have stats past a group stage during 2017, all his stats were online and groups before NiKo so don't even try to talk shit you clearly do not follow this scene at all.
2017-12-07 04:32
I think most of the rain fanboying comes from his famous 1 tap and his 1 match where ha had like a 95% headshot percentage despite only have less than 20 kills. His recent performances have bean the only times he has ever played mvp worthy counter strike.
2017-12-07 14:25
#12
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Brazil zDjent 
Rain is the best player on FaZe in my opinion.
2017-12-07 04:04
kennyS was better than rain this year...
2017-12-07 04:38
#9
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Brazil Dynamo_ 
TACO >Rain
2017-12-07 03:56
yeah ofcourse fuking nub cunt idiot
2017-12-07 04:08
#19
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Brazil Dynamo_ 
expected from an indian
2017-12-07 04:09
fku brazilians tosik shit piece of people
2017-12-07 04:11
#37
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Brazil Dynamo_ 
.k
2017-12-07 10:45
Haha goodluck fighting that
2017-12-07 11:24
fku
2017-12-07 12:05
#21
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Brazil Nimenz 
Don't bother him bro, that's what happens with who breathes in India.
2017-12-07 04:12
#36
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Brazil Dynamo_ 
They are probably praising their cows now. Or bathing in a polluted river where dead animals are throwned. kkkkkkkkkkkkkk
2017-12-07 10:45
+1 I think he is top 10 but there are several players who have played practically all year at a level higher than him, just after the break /vacation he started to perform super well, before that I saw him as an irregular or apathetic player although it did not negatively compromise the team ..... top 5 in my opinion would be 1- cold, 2- Niko, 3- fer, 4 - KennyS, 5- Fallen (maybe)
2017-12-07 04:02
#13
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Brazil DRayyy 
why kennyS in top 4? KennyS is top 10 - 15
2017-12-07 04:05
#22
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Brazil Nimenz 
Top 10 probably. He was great this year.
2017-12-07 04:13
#23
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Brazil DRayyy 
he is a good player but g2...
2017-12-07 04:14
#25
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Brazil Nimenz 
Yeah, I know...they don't show the game they suppose to....I'm pretty sure it's IGL lack.
2017-12-07 04:16
#14
FalleN | 
Brazil paumito 
fallen probably top 3 or 4.
2017-12-07 04:07
niko cold rain fer fallen
2017-12-07 04:07
#24
NiKo | 
Serbia s1m1k 
#1 NiKo #2 Cold #3 Rain #4 Fallen #5 Fer
2017-12-07 04:15
niko major group 0-3 0/8
2017-12-07 04:26
#34
NiKo | 
Serbia s1m1k 
He played only one major with this team :) You can't blame him for whole team choking lul... Well see how they do on next major ;)
2017-12-07 05:23
#85
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Brazil SK_LeoZera 
You can't blame him and also you can't say he is top1. Everyone nows that coldzera was better then niko in 2017, also SK was better then Faze. #1 Cold #2 Fallen #3 Niko #4 Device #5 Fer
2017-12-07 12:29
#97
NiKo | 
Serbia s1m1k 
Only Brazilians and Haters know that not everyone :) FaZe won more events with this lineup and NiKo was better than cold ;)
2017-12-07 16:40
#102
Xyp9x | 
Romania Old_Guy 
HLTV takes into account team achievements when making their top 20 best players, that's why cold is most likely going to get #1 this year while s1mple and NiKo are most likely going to end up in top 10 or 5 despite both of them looking like contenders for the #1 spot in terms of just impact/individual performance. That's just the way it works.
2017-12-07 16:54
Obviously you're joking putting Niko on the top.. But other than that, the 5 best players are on your list.
2017-12-07 04:41
#33
NiKo | 
Serbia s1m1k 
This is my list of top 5 players and im like 85% sure it will be like that :)
2017-12-07 05:22
#38
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Brazil DRayyy 
NiKo above cold and rain above fer make 850% sense its more easy 1-Cold 2-fer 3-NiKO 4-fallen 5-kennyS
2017-12-07 10:55
#99
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Serbia wInt3r 
1 good event=FALLEN top 4. Good luck with that shit...fer over Niko even bigger shit,by Impact NiKo is first,he is at least top 2.
2017-12-07 16:47
there's no way niko will be above cold. NO WAY
2017-12-07 12:32
#98
NiKo | 
Serbia s1m1k 
You'll see
2017-12-07 16:41
no, I won't.
2017-12-08 11:49
#118
NiKo | 
Serbia s1m1k 
Then u blind :(
2017-12-08 16:34
ofc
2017-12-07 04:24
#31
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Brazil davidzor 
top 10 definitely, idk top 5.
2017-12-07 04:40
#35
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Russia ZippSluvik 
kennyS*
2017-12-07 05:29
fallen too op fallen > abism > kennys+guardian
2017-12-07 11:00
#43
FalleN | 
Brazil iagozv 
cold niko kennyS fer/fallen fallen/fer rain
2017-12-07 11:02
#44
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Brazil DRayyy 
WTF KennyS is top 10 - 15
2017-12-07 11:03
He had a monster year wym
2017-12-07 11:17
He is for sure going to be top5
2017-12-07 11:03
he will probably not... and about s1mple? 8th at best but probably lower.
2017-12-07 11:15
Agree on s1mple, 10th to 8th range. I still remain on FalleN being top 5, he has had a few insane tournaments and not a single slump. He played great the whole year, was MVP and close to that several times.
2017-12-07 11:18
fallen is surely good player but no,he will not be probably in top5 and definitely not before kennys who has 4 mvps,better stats and is the best player from his team while fallen is 3rd. hltv ranking will look like this for like 90% 1.cold 2.niko 3.fer 4.kennys 5.device(im not saying that i agree with this but in hltv ranking he will be probably there) 6/7.fallen/rain
2017-12-07 11:21
I do not get where you get fer. Honestly. Many do seem to place him high but FalleN played WAY better if we count the whole year. WAY better.
2017-12-07 11:24
no he didnt.fer had even period where he played better than cold+hltv ranking is based on stats=facts... lan rating this year fer 1.21 fallen 1.13 big events fer 1.20 fallen 1.12 majors fer 1.17 fallen 1.04 as simple as that.there is no way that fallen will be before fer in hltv ranking
2017-12-07 11:26
Well that's just hard data, can't really argue with that. I have missed that completely even tho I do read the followup after every tournament, my attention has been elsewhere apparently.
2017-12-07 11:32
its fine...i mean i actually agree with you a little bit.imo fallen is the most valuable player for his team from all players out there.he is captain,igl and main awper and his performance is rly good. but hltv ranking is based on individual performance and roles etc arent considered.
2017-12-07 11:34
Yeah, I had not checked the clean data yet. I guess why I have thought of FalleN as the among maybe even top3 is the caller thing. Being the IGL and the mad awp is pretty rare nowadays.
2017-12-07 11:45
Fer was the best player in SK for half of the year.
2017-12-07 11:27
Where would you guys place s1mple? He had a decent year too.
2017-12-07 11:08
4th will be kennys.no way that fallen or rain will be before him...
2017-12-07 11:15
1 Coldz 2. Fer 3. Niko 4. Fallen / kennyS 5. Rain
2017-12-07 11:15
2.Fallen
2017-12-07 11:19
Taco Taz Carrygan Seized MSL
2017-12-07 11:22
lul
2017-12-07 11:32
The fact that he IGLs should put him in top 2
2017-12-07 11:25
2 majors=2 from sk in top 0 majors=3 from sk in top???? kys
2017-12-07 11:27
well you're not really coming with any alternatives, so....
2017-12-07 12:41
#93
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Brazil DRayyy 
SK just dominated 2017 thats why they have 3 SK players in top 5
2017-12-07 15:29
they have won only 1 tier 1 tournament more than FaZe (still not the end of year) nice domination also majors>tournaments
2017-12-07 15:46
also faze more finals so
2017-12-07 15:48
#107
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Poland raaVz 
SK 2017 1st at BLAST Pro Series (Tier 1) 1st at EPICENTER 2017 (Tier 1) 1st at ESL ONE COLOGNE 2017 (Tier 1) 1st at ECS SEASON 3 (Tier 1) 1st at Dreamhack Summer 2017 (Tier 2) 1st at IEM Sidney 2017 (Tier 2) 1st at CS_Summit (Tier 2) 2nd at Dreamhack Las Vegas 3rd at Eleague Major 3rd at ESL Pro League Season 5 3rd at ESG Tour Mykonos 2017 3rd at ESL One New York 3rd at IEM Oakland 2017 FaZe 2017 - 1st at - ESL One New York 1st at - Eleague CS:GO Premier 1st - StarLadder Season 3 2nd - IEM Oakland 2017 2nd - ECS SEASON 3 2nd - IEM Sidney 2017 2nd - IEM Katowice 2017 SK>FAZE
2017-12-08 01:34
0/8 wiki.teamliquid.net/counterstrike/Premie.. Now check how many finals with faze and sk (btw dont check ESL pro league qualifications, cuz who care will he 2 or 6 on list)
2017-12-08 11:38
#63
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Netherlands miles- 
coldzera fer NiKo FalleN S1mple
2017-12-07 11:30
#70
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Brazil mrk_92 
1_ COLD 2_Fer 3_Fallen 4_Niko 5_rain /CLOSED
2017-12-07 11:44
#72
Portugal AP^ 
Top5? Hell no... Top3
2017-12-07 11:50
I think it is very possible, depends a little bit of Pro League Finals If SK won 1 - Coldzera 2 - Niko 3 - Fer or Device 4 - Device or Fer 5 - Fallen (maybe better positioned) If Faze won 1 - Coldzera (only if Niko play like a God can be top 1) 2 - Niko 3 - Fer or Device (more probably Fer) 4 - Device or Fer 5 - Rain or Fallen
2017-12-07 11:56
#114
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North America eschato 
if fer plays like a god,he can surpass niko
2017-12-08 09:59
ocean top 5 or riot
2017-12-07 12:00
fer top3 lul
2017-12-07 12:45
#90
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Bosnia and Herzegovina hyrox1 
1.coldzera 2.NiKo 3.fer 4.rain 5.kennyS . . 8-10-FalleN
2017-12-07 14:11
#94
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Brazil DRayyy 
fallen on top 5 and kenny 8-10
2017-12-07 15:30
sorry but not rain in top 5
2017-12-07 16:53
No FalleN = No SK, that's top 5.
2017-12-08 09:55
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