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REAL HLTV TOP 10
Sweden reggaesharky 
1.Coldzera 2.Niko 3.Fer 4.Rain 5.device 6.KennyS 7.f0rest 8.S1mple 9.Hobbit 10.Kjaerbae
2017-12-07 16:50
nah switch niko with r0ma the Ukrainian god
2017-12-07 16:51
oh wait wrong hltv account shit
2017-12-07 16:51
r0ma is it true you are level 11 on faceit my bratiska? did you use big boost or you are good?
2017-12-07 17:07
3500elo my friend
2017-12-07 17:08
#50
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United States Shadow272 
Lol
2017-12-07 22:04
"7.f0rest" :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
2017-12-07 16:52
#4
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United States Meme_Lad 
-f0rest
2017-12-07 16:52
#5
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Poland Hell2k 
F0rest OMEGALUL
2017-12-07 16:52
i think f0rest deserves top 10 this year because of the hard carry at tournament and win medal
2017-12-07 17:00
#37
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Canada Keiosz 
Hell no dude.
2017-12-07 18:13
#6
kNgV- | 
Denmark Lasse0800 
Kjaerbye?!?!?
2017-12-07 16:53
mistake my bad
2017-12-07 16:56
#7
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Estonia YOUWILLREGRET 
1. RAIN
2017-12-07 16:53
1. NiKo 2. Cold 3. NEEX 4. Snax 5. Fer 6. FalleN 7. Maybe s1mple 8. fnx 9. Pasha 10. rain
2017-12-07 16:56
#56
Japan etm 
I'm not sure what you're using, but you're not in your right mind at all.
2017-12-07 22:17
#66
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Estonia Chaostic 
I dont know what you are on but i want some
2017-12-08 08:14
#9
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Ukraine Rubilo 
adren in top 10 probably
2017-12-07 16:56
#22
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United Kingdom HarryBotter 
+1
2017-12-07 17:01
+2
2017-12-07 17:02
#10
FalleN | 
Brazil iagozv 
> 5º Device, 0 mvp's and king of exit "no important" frags. > f0rest fan boy in 2k17 LUL > s1mple 1 dreamhack this year OMEGALUL > no Fallen, 2 mvp's, 7 titles in 2017 (05 tier 1 events) and king of first frag. nice b8, 0/8
2017-12-07 16:56
sry my brazilian bratan i forgot about GOD FALLEN, Fallen should be 4 place
2017-12-07 16:58
#20
FalleN | 
Brazil iagozv 
ok, now is tier 1 top10
2017-12-07 17:00
#21
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United Kingdom HarryBotter 
+1
2017-12-07 17:00
>5. device ayyyyyyyyyyyy lmao
2017-12-07 16:58
Fallen easily in top 10
2017-12-07 16:58
#19
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United Kingdom HarryBotter 
+1
2017-12-07 17:00
I stop read cold top1
2017-12-07 16:58
#18
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United Kingdom HarryBotter 
NiKo overrated af
2017-12-07 17:00
Overrated but better than cold
2017-12-07 17:05
#32
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United Kingdom HarryBotter 
So both the top players are overrated?
2017-12-07 18:05
#34
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Europe scrubi 
the denialism :DDD
2017-12-07 18:09
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United Kingdom HarryBotter 
:D
2017-12-07 21:57
#43
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Lithuania DieNastyA 
When people say that cold is the goat then yeah he is overrated.
2017-12-07 22:00
#58
Japan etm 
Still top1 this year and last year by far.
2017-12-07 22:18
#59
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Lithuania DieNastyA 
Debatable but he is overrated. When people talk about best of all time and rate him above GTR,f0rest,Neo then he certainly is overrated.
2017-12-07 22:19
#63
Japan etm 
He is above F0rest and Neo on csgo for sure at this point. It's debatable if you're talking about GTR and Olof. It's not debatable that he was the best player last year, he was destroying. This year he was not as dominant as last year, but still easily top 1. He is also the most consistent player to ever play csgo, it's really not debatable that he is better than Forest and Neo.
2017-12-07 22:23
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Lithuania DieNastyA 
But i thought cs also includes 1.6 version ? And why all the pros analytics are saying that neo/f0rest > all. Give coldzera the same teammates that neo had when he won 7 majors in 1.6 and cold would be lucky to win 1 of them. Cold is not even close to neo. And again i would be wrong if we would be talking about best csgo player but everyone is talkimg about all time. And i havent named many others that cold doesnt surpass.
2017-12-08 08:11
#67
Japan etm 
Nope, the analysts are not saying that, only the fans are. If you put todays Coldzera on the old teams they would win a lot more than what they did. The game evolves, the players get better and they develop better strategies, like in any game and sport. Unless you really believe that the players, after 10 years practicing, they all got worse than before, there's no base to say Cold wouldn't perform with the old teams, this is pure fanboyism. What you're doing is saying "Pelé was better than Messi" We all know it's not true, he was only more dominant.
2017-12-08 16:21
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Lithuania DieNastyA 
No, the only thing that matters who were good at that time like nip during their 87-0 streak. For football Pele is the greatest of all time and even a below top 10 player would beat him now. But does that player has same achievments ? No and that is the reason when we are talking about best players of all time Neo/Gtr/f0rest (that are still active) easily overtake cold in terms of legacy.
2017-12-08 17:01
#69
Japan etm 
Not really. Unless you want to talk only about the team, because personal achievements of Cold is above them. He is heading to get his second top 1 player of the year in a row, who else got that? He is also the most consistent player ever and got more MVPs. He is already above them (maybe not Gtr) as a player. Of course, if you want to talk about legacy, the older players will always have more history.
2017-12-09 03:13
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Lithuania DieNastyA 
Ever heard of neo ? Also gtr has it. But cold will never surpass neo. Because neo achieved the most by having the least tallented teammates on his team based on all versions of cs. Just go and watch some of his vods of 1.6. Cold is not even close to that level but 1.6 pro scene is dead for 5 years. Neo won E-Sports player of the year (so not only cs) in 2007-2008 from 2006 to 2009 he was the best player in cs. And officially was named #1 in 2011. This guy on his own skill surpasses cold easily. And im not even talking about legacy here. Neo never had 3 other superstars on his team or atleast 2. And the most help he ever had when taz became amazing and pasha was pretty decent. That is it and he still sits with 7 majors in 1.6 and 8 in total.
2017-12-09 13:24
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United Kingdom HarryBotter 
1.Coldzera 2.Niko xD 3.Fer 4.Rain 5.device 6.KennyS xD 7.f0rest Xd 8.S1mple 9.Hobbit 10.Kjaerbae No FalleN
2017-12-07 17:00
i forgot about GOD FALLEN MY englando bratan, replace rain with Fallen and Rain in 6th spot
2017-12-07 17:02
#24
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United Kingdom HarryBotter 
Seems fair
2017-12-07 17:02
#44
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Lithuania DieNastyA 
1.Coldzera xd
2017-12-07 22:00
#45
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United Kingdom HarryBotter 
Exactly. Better than NiKo in almost every way and his team has done more.
2017-12-07 22:00
#48
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Lithuania DieNastyA 
Not really. Cold had better teammates for 9 months which 3 were top 20 at that time and niko only had rain. But nt cold is best but couldnt win the major as the favorites. For me niko is better and i would respect your opinion more if it wasnt for "fan of sk".
2017-12-07 22:02
#49
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United Kingdom HarryBotter 
"But nt cold is best but couldnt win the major as the favorites" FaZe were the second favorites and went 0-3 in the groups Also how is me being a fan of SK that relevant? You are clearly a fan of FaZe and as we are both defending teams we like it doesn't matter
2017-12-07 22:04
#52
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Lithuania DieNastyA 
Yes but did sk win ? No and you are saying ridicilous bullshit like niko isnt even top 2. Please niko has the highest rating in big events while playing more agressive roles. There is nothing to compare niko is a better player with every gun but cold had better players around him for 7-8 months of 2017.
2017-12-07 22:05
#53
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United Kingdom HarryBotter 
Coming 5-8th is a lot better than last... Anyway look at their stats for events hltv.org/stats/players/events/9216/coldz.. hltv.org/stats/players/events/3741/NiKo Apart from a few big tournments NiKo hardly goes above 1.20 whereas cold is hitting 125+ almost every time
2017-12-07 22:08
#54
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Lithuania DieNastyA 
Because niko plays much more agressive roles so he is not able to frag as much yet his rating is still better ? Look cold is one of the best and i agree, his style works so its great but he always enters sites 4th or 5th so that makes his job much easier. Fer does so much more for sk imo because without them cold wouldnt even be set up in those positions. And watch some niko demos please. This guy is so agressive yet he finds those ridicilous frags and has biggest rating of all the players ? Niko is just on another level tbh. And your ratings argument ? Well cold is not much higher and niko had just as many periods with higher ratings in 2017 than cold.
2017-12-07 22:12
#55
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United Kingdom HarryBotter 
I swear Rain is the entry? Besides that his choice and the that should be taken into account when choosing the top 1. I find it foolish to compare NiKo and cold tbh. He is much more like fer in how he plays and FalleN in the jobs he does imo
2017-12-07 22:13
#57
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Lithuania DieNastyA 
Rain = Fer. These players unlock Niko/Cold without them neither of them would have such great numbers. And i never said niko is entry i just said that he is much more agressive so k/d wont be as good naturally. But Cold is one of the best not because of his aim (which is still great) but because of the system that he has + he lurks which increases your k/d. Exp : Happy.
2017-12-07 22:17
#60
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United Kingdom HarryBotter 
I would still argue that NiKo chooses that play style and if he suffers in terms of frags that's his fault.
2017-12-07 22:21
#61
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Lithuania DieNastyA 
Yes its true but when it works his potential becomes highest in the world just look at esl ny 2017. Still cold and niko is a close argument.
2017-12-07 22:22
#62
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United Kingdom HarryBotter 
Agreed there. Well good night! A pleasure and an honour having this debate with you :D
2017-12-07 22:23
#64
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Lithuania DieNastyA 
Same. Goodnight fellow HLTV user.
2017-12-07 22:24
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Finland LordPig__ 
1.Niko 2.Mixwell 3.Rain 4.Allu 5.coldzera 6.KennyS 7.friberg 8.S1mple 9.f0rest 10.Kjaerbae
2017-12-07 17:02
#33
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Brazil vhcNTC 
1cold 2niko 3fallen 4fer
2017-12-07 18:07
No fallen in top 10 OMEGALUL
2017-12-07 18:10
#36
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Brazil JRavlin 
lol, sounds like a rap, read it faster
2017-12-07 18:12
#38
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Brazil hugoooo 
If you actually believe FalleN won't be on top 10, you're absolutely clueless.
2017-12-07 18:14
FalleN?
2017-12-07 18:14
1. Coldzera (always performing) 2. Rain ( is a bit less skilled as NiKo but is more consistent. 3. Fallen 4. NiKo 5. Fer 6. Dev1ce 7. S1mple 8. Adren (has been performing rlly good) 9. Karrigan/ Glave (These are rlly good igls and can frag) 10. Dont really know maybe forest. Idk This is my listerino pls no complainerino my opino
2017-12-07 18:22
where is FalleN?
2017-12-07 21:59
Where is Oskar ?
2017-12-07 22:02
#47
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Israel MuslimLover 
Kjaerbye?
2017-12-07 22:02
#51
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United States Shadow272 
Forest I don’t think so
2017-12-07 22:04
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