I want that George Washington kid to see this mostly. He doesnt stick around for real factual csgo conversations, only bait.
they are good
and we make fun of them cuz all the "follow the trend" kids became faze fans now xD
and SK 16-2 them on lan, they were super cocky cuz faze was stomping nbs
till they face sk....
after they face sk
"omg why u guys hate faze eh eh"
"faze did nothing wrong"
"omg bully stop pls"
if you want a serious talk, then the thing is simple: it's a competitive scene, and competition here is not only between the teams, but also between the fans. it will always be like that with all that hate and cocky stuff like "your team sucks, my team best", and you're asking everybody to "just admit my team is the best and sit quetly". it's impossible, deal with it
If you haven't noticed, every time a t1 team loses hltv is full of retarded threads like "FAZE SUPERTEAM LUL", "NIP T2", "SK LAUGH THREAD", so it's not only faze that get hate, all teams get hate too.
I agree, to many ppl crying about faze fucking wrecking their fav teams.
faze plastic team with no love for the game or for the fans... thats why people hate faze
they just kick their friends because of money and dont respect their fans
But faze fans a idiots (majority mass)
They think cold<<<<<niko and faze always top1
Dont see obvious facts
I hate lots of faze fans, not the team
It's a direct response to the reaction after faze won their back to back tournament. Sooo many people hopped on the bandwagon and basically made faze out to be untouchable, best of all time, everyone else is shit, blah blah blah.
Oh, and when you say possibly one of the best of all time. Wtf? Let's look at their record.
In terms of actual accomplishments, they are not even top5. Nip, old nv/ldlc, old fanatic, SK, astralis, vp all have more accomplishments and have been doing it/did it for muuuuuch longer. No doubt they have the potential to be one of the best of all time, but it's the overhyped notion that they are already one of the best of all time when they don't have the length or accomplishments yet to back that up whatsoever that is just ridiculous.
SK had back to back majors and many other tournament wins, fanatic had back to back majors, many other tournament wins including 6 in a row late 2015/2016. Nv has multiple majors and other tournament wins. Vp has a major and numerous wins. Nip has a major, numerous tournaments, and their famous streak. Wait until faze actually reaches those levels of accomplishments before making the claim they are already one of the best ever. Not saying they cant/won't do it, but they haven't yet.
It's hard to take you seriously when you say things like "Faze is one of the best teams in CS right now, and quite possibly all time."
People dislike FaZe because they're a plastic pay2win team with no history, continuity or honor. rain is the only player left from the original lineup in 2016, and he has had 10 different teammates since then. As for their fans, they're mostly gloryhunter kids with no understanding of the game. Because of all of this, it is perfectly fine and reasonable to mock them and make fun of them when they do poorly
87/0 stopped reading after “quite possibly all time”
My problem is with the fans. The team are in the same level of SK
I created an account just to reply this post. You say in every comment that you want to talk as adult, but on most of them you call the other members as kids. I call this hipocrisy.
But back to the topic, every place have some blind followers that wanna impose their opinions and curse who disagree with them. Btw the teams are great, even with some facts that SUVAKO said. The members of SK (I'm not talking including boltz, because I don't know much about him) are BIG friends, and Fallen is the most who demonstrate this even with the ex-immortals members (like Felps, boltz, steel, Lucas1 and Hen1).
I am a FaZe fan since the beginning of the Kinguin team in 2015. I follow competitive CS since mid 2014 and we had a lot of eras. I take NiP, fnatic, SK and maybe Astralis in late '16 as an example. Everyone just chilled except for SK fans. I cannot remember a single day where I didn't read: "We are from Brazil" and so on. Sure, you can be proud of what your team/your country achieved, but don't let it appear like arrogance. I think this is one of the problems OP was trying to mention as well. No one hates SK for their success (atleast I don't since they really deserve it), but just this arrogant internet behavior here is disgusting me and probably 90% of the people here. Stop bitching and enjoy the competitiveness we have in late 2017, compared to 14/15 where we only had Nip, fnc, vp, nV and TSM. Thanks for reading and have a nice day. :)
This whole thread is just blatant hypocrisy. People like to talk shit if you are on the top, get over it. We SK Fans have to deal with it on daily basis (and with ofenses that go WAY beyond the gaming scope) and we just roll with that. Just wipe your tears and learn to act like a man.
Maybe the reason people like how SK is built is due to the fact that players have a great relationship with themselves. They've been friends for years and years and there's more than money in the team. That's not wrong at all. Of course their goal in the team is to get money, but they're doing so like a family.
You have the right to like any team you want and since I'm new here, I respect your point of view and I can't argue with you about FaZe haters. For me, SK is the best but FaZe is an awesome team... Niko, Guardian and Olofmeister are simply great players and certainly sit in the world's TOP 10.
Unfortunately, CS:GO community tends to be really toxic. As a brazilian, I can't watch a SK game while reading the viewers comments. As soon as SK starts losing, people go like "SK trash", "Fallen must retire" and so on. If SK starts to win, the comments change quickly.
Our feelings might be different... but somehow I understand you. Let's just carry on...
Faze best team all time??
Maybe in game,but not by achievments
FaZe is probably not even top 10 of all time tbh
Dont wanna curse or argue too hardly, and remain composed, but my point is the following: There are no real hard-core FaZe fans imo, that've been FaZe Fans for a long time, right? They almsot completely swapped their roster some time ago, so I suppose most fans, perhabs even you, are cheering for an individual (Rain in your case), right? Like all the people whomst've supported K1oshima or aizy are prolly no longer FaZe fans,, at least thats what I reckon.
I like you TacoBell_BigBox (nohomo), you make good points throughout this entire topic. I am not just saying that because I am a FaZe fan. We just have to wait and see how their teamwork will progresses over time, because for now I still don't think they will be able to beat SK consistently because they play so damn good together.
I really hate this "pay to win" argument, I always felt like this team was mostly formed because all players are really hungry to win a major. Some have been close, others didn't have the right team and olof looking for new motivation and compete at top level again.
So I'm waiting for the results of this tournament and especially the next major!