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A real SK challenger?
Canada Assimov 
No team seems to have an answer on how to beat SK regularly. Cause if they do it once, they dont seems to be able to do it again for the next couple of tournaments. The last line-up that seriously challanged SK and beat them event after event was fnatic prior to olofs injury. (Olofm, Dennis, JW, flusha, KrimZ) But now? nobody seems to be able to. And FaZe always choke in finals vs SK. FaZe seriously has to do a lot of work if they gonna be able to win the upcoming major, or hope for a final without SK.
2017-12-10 22:49
France France98123 
G2 destroy them, but thats the only top team G2 seems to be able to beat so ...
2017-12-10 22:50
felps | 
Canada VansNTC 
I agree in some parts,like G2 and VP are the only who can beat SK,but I think G2 need some changes,like -body +rpk or smth like that,for me a LIneup that could beat SK would be: kennyS Happy RPK ScreaM NBK
2017-12-11 13:27
Only team that beats SK is this... fer FalleN TACO coldzera boltz Oh this is the SK.
2017-12-11 13:31
United States tediousmcgee 
G2 destroy most of the top teams like North, Astralis, and SK but choke against most other teams
2017-12-11 17:46
Only Villa Mix can beat sk
2017-12-10 22:50
Brazil HueyNewton 
kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk boa
2017-12-11 00:38
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Brazil lopanBR 
KKKkkk Epic battle..
2017-12-11 18:29
Villa mix vem forte padrim
2017-12-11 19:47
Portugal RKO23 
faze , astralis , vp , liquid , g2... those are all that i remember.
2017-12-10 22:51
"beat them regularly" nobody of those teams beat them event after event maybe they win once, or twice a year. but not continuesly to be a serious challenger
2017-12-10 22:54
Portugal rayNeen 
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Portugal RKO23 
liquid are winning against sk on lan , the last time they met was in miyokonos or how u write it. vp , if pasha didn't failed the shot on cobble , they would've won. g2 , well... are g2. astralis , if it wasnt for taco's technical pause and xyp9x spray in the body to one of the sk members on the a site when he was quad , he could've won , he should've just hs the first guy. faze , well... just watch this match again and you'll see it , i'm too tired to explain xd , faze sometimes just have bad luck.
2017-12-10 22:55
SK won 8 out of 9 finals this year, who is even close to that? I'm talking about a real challenger not someone that maybe can win vs them once or twice a year on events. And currently, there's no team that is up there with them.
2017-12-10 22:57
Portugal RKO23 i just replied to your question ^^ that's what you asked. plus about the g2 stuff even fallen himself said it :D and like i said , faze , vp , g2 and astralis are good contenders , i'm not kidding. they really are good when they are in form , especially vp and g2.
2017-12-10 23:00
yes sure they could be good contenders, but I don't see them overtaking SK's position and winning as much as SK do right now. I think the next year belongs to SK as well because I doubt any of the teams above will have an answer for their success next year either. Feels like current CS:GO lacks another one or two truly consistent teams like SK are rn for it to be fully enjoyable and challenging.
2017-12-10 23:09
Portugal RKO23 
Faze , maybe vp ^^ if they want , but i dont believe it. fnatic are coming back on form. na'vi will be cool if they come back as well :D those 3 are good if you ask me :p
2017-12-10 23:08
Sure, but somehow I feel like both fnatic and na'vi already had their prime with stronger previous rosters.. especially fnatic. Na'Vi with both simple and electronic could be insane and I hope they do challenge SK for real. There's so many teams that seems to fall off once they win a major. Gambit was a serious contender, but then again it fell short when Zeus left. And Astralis fell off too after their major win. But SK seems to be even more fired up once they win.
2017-12-10 23:19
Portugal RKO23 
ahahahhaha , that's sk for you :D
2017-12-11 16:22
Brazil LangBR 
If if if if if if if If sk was worst than these teams maybe
2017-12-11 01:26
Portugal RKO23 
g2 is still a good contender against sk , i think that vp and g2 are the hardest teams to play for sk.
2017-12-11 16:23
SK has a year without win in BO3 vs VP xD VP have been destroying them since second major 2016 to 2017.
2017-12-11 00:41
Yes agree to that.. but how many finals does VP make each year? Not enough to be a serious challenger to take their #1 spot.
2017-12-11 13:23
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Ukraine LeenReex 
C9 mb
2017-12-10 22:52
Portugal RKO23 
lol....... you really live in the past man...
2017-12-11 16:24
Bangladesh N0SP4C3 
yea lol
2017-12-12 01:15
Portugal RKO23 
? you do... check which one is the most recent.
2017-12-12 11:26
ASTRALIS in good shape can
2017-12-10 22:52
It pisses me off when teams dont anti strat. Like its some pride thing. All faze has to do is watch some fucking matches and plan out what SK like doing.
2017-12-10 22:53
France 0racle 
that's cheap as fuck
2017-12-10 22:55
how? every sport does it in some way. how is it cheap at all actually?
2017-12-10 23:12
Finland Faust_fSt 
Robban is a cheerleader, not a proper coach, and Karrigan can only bend over when he hears SK entering the server. FaZe's next move should be -Robban +real tactician.
2017-12-10 23:05
how would you know if robban doesnt work on anything wtf? you arent on the team lol
2017-12-10 23:11
Finland Faust_fSt 
how would you know i'm not on the team wtf? you arent on the team lol
2017-12-11 00:16
fucking fin
2017-12-11 00:56
Finland Faust_fSt 
Your words hurt me so bad I may have to go visit a doctor for free :(
2017-12-11 01:10
Indonesia Not_A_Carry 
Zonic will fit this role but i think he will stay in astralis though, imapet have a potential too
2017-12-11 00:44
Finland Faust_fSt 
I'm sure there are plenty of people capable of proper analysis and insight, it doesn't have to be a "high-profile" coach already known in the scene. It just needs to be someone the team listens to - if Karrigan won't/can't implement the given information, it's irrelevant what he's been told.
2017-12-11 00:48
Indonesia Not_A_Carry 
Yeah, i think some coach said that of coaching role is bigger, the potential is going to be limitless or so it told, i forgot
2017-12-12 03:04
Brazil Otazul 
This is the next Peacemaker step
2017-12-11 18:29
And you really think they dont do that? ....
2017-12-10 23:10
well yea no shit. Karrigan says he doesnt lol.
2017-12-10 23:12
Then he is retarded. also when he said that? Im pretty sure a guy that lost everytime vs SK will study them. Maybe he does but it isnt effective.
2017-12-10 23:13
no. Almost no tier 1 team anti strats. That doesnt meant they dont prepare, but anti stratting is more than just watching demos. anti stratting involves digging deep into each map of the team youre playing. It takes a lot of time and most of those teams just play their own game. It makes me mad they dont anti strat.....
2017-12-10 23:15
If they arent antistrating SK then yes they are dumb as fuck
2017-12-10 23:17
Every team is dumb as fuck. and lazy for not anti stratting.
2017-12-10 23:20
if that’s true, they must be braid-dead. device shut down fallen in a whole bo3 on pure antistrat. cloud9 were able to beat envy and fnatic in 2015 just by antistratting even though their firepower was way inferior.
2017-12-11 00:27
Brazil maximoff66 
Karrigan nas already tried that(one of the few teams he has done It against) but it didn't workout,he Said that on a vídeo with thorin
2017-12-11 00:48
+1 karrigan 10 iq
2017-12-11 18:04
NiP, Heroic, G2, Liquid and North in the recent months if I remember correctly.
2017-12-10 22:53
Brazil adre221 
WAS RAIN SICK THIS MATCH???????????????????
2017-12-10 22:57
Brazil adre221 
also here is something to help with your delusion he played in your glorious ''competitive era'' (2013-2014) LULLLLLLLLLL and he admits that today's competition is much stronger, and that SK is GOAT but you'll keep being delusional, won't you? You are pathetic
2017-12-10 22:59
you attach yourself wayyyy too much onto this team my man. Youre a fan, dont be obsessive
2017-12-10 23:14
Brazil adre221 
I'm not being obsessive, it just pisses me off that retards like this keeps undermining SK's achievements and saying shit, I'm just saying the truth with facts to back it up.
2017-12-10 23:15
no fucking shit SK is good. lol. Its just annoying when fans think they are a part of the team. They have no idea that you even exist. Dont be a fanboy. Cheer em on, back em up here and there. But if they are winning this much dont be the kind of guy who thinks you have to beat it into everyone elses heads that they are the best.
2017-12-10 23:18
Brazil adre221 
I am a part of the team, in fact, the whole BR community is, SK wouldn't be possible without them, I don't expect you to understand since you probably weren't around when we were building SK from the beginning, since 2014 when they were kabum. I have been supporting them since the beginning, and alone I might be insignificant, but alone we all are insignificant, but together we are SK, without the community support SK would never have gotten recognition, neither would they have had the money to go to the qualifier. As I said, you are probably new, so I don't expect you to understand, but this is the reason I do what I do.
2017-12-10 23:21
MAJ3R | 
United States Fanzera 
+1 respect
2017-12-11 18:10
G2 keeps beating them
2017-12-10 22:54
s1mple | 
Poland Hell2k 
VP i think won most maps vs SK in this year. Major finals SK vs VP dream
2017-12-10 22:54
VP in good shape is a trouble for any team in the world, but they are inconsistent as fuck
2017-12-10 22:58
Brazil adre221 
SK stopped VP in their ultimate plow form, VP can truly give them a hard time but SK is superior
2017-12-10 23:00
VP They are the biggest threat, they have the very strong emotional, but they are going through a bad phase.
2017-12-10 23:01
g2, ast , but they have to be at their top form vp nip i arent think that considering their inconsistancy
2017-12-10 23:09
CoL and Mans Not Hot can do it
2017-12-10 23:23
Astralis were the closest competitor before they fell off, the games between SK and Astralis were insane, CS at its best.
2017-12-11 00:20
a real challenge would be to see sk playing in EU instead of NA, there is so many EU team who can beat them that i wouldn't be surprise to not see them qualify for lan event
2017-12-11 00:22
United States FlagMaster 
2017-12-11 16:29
United States PsychoLogical 
the teams that could currently match up to SK if at their best or what so ever are FaZe, Astralis, Team Liquid, VP, and G2 . Although i may have some doubts here and there but this is what i think
2017-12-11 00:22
Brazil Ghostzera 
the FaZe roster can beat Sk, without Karrigan of course.
2017-12-11 00:23
hmmm FaZe and Astralis can do it.
2017-12-11 00:24
Astralis, G2, NiP, VP, and FaZe are all definite challengers for SK as long as they're on form Astralis has been in and out with device... i am in no way an Astralis fan, but it sorta sucks (in terms of the competitiveness of things) that they can't get their roster back up and running on a regular basis G2 can't seem to catch a break... inconsistency across the board and it seems like they're having internal issues with planning and IGL NiP has the talent, experience, and knowledge to beat anyone on this list. Some of the players need to slow it down a bit and get back to the basics of playing at this level. Xizt has the knowledge... he just needs to get the team in line and back in form VP is... well... VP... we all know what they're capable of, but they just gotta apply themselves FaZe has all the talent in the world.. they need to take a different approach and use that skill to their advantage. Karrigan is a good IGL and NiKo is fantastic, but maybe their emotions get the better of them sometimes. Rain is the backbone of the team and Guardian and Olof just need to get into their grooves All these teams have what it takes, they just gotta push themselves over the hump..... hopefully (with the exception of NiP) we'll get a good showing at the major
2017-12-11 00:32
Brazil Otazul 
Not that good as sk will play with felps
2017-12-11 01:48
the only true sk competition is themselves can they find the drive to win tournaments thats the question
2017-12-11 00:34
Brazil boiadeiroding 
sk is very strong in the final. they have a very good reading of the game. the more games the adversary has to study, the more difficult it is to overcome them. The best thing to do is to face sk soon after the group stage. When you did not show too many maps.
2017-12-11 00:35
Brazil rsouzadk 
They are very solid, but Faze have proved to be a challenger. 11 rounds in a row man. That was awful.
2017-12-11 00:44
Maybe who can beat SK with Boltz is: Fnx, Lucas1, Hen1, Kng and Bit. Just maybe.
2017-12-11 00:49
Brazil maximoff66 glad that sk is the only one they can do that against tho lul
2017-12-11 00:49
It should be Astralis but they usually fuck it up by having a "severe lack of balls at matchpoint" disorder followed up by a "sensation of not being able to breathe" in overtime.
2017-12-11 00:59
The only teams that I have "fear" to face as SK fan is G2 and VP. This guys are insane. VP in their form is awesome, almost unbeatable, EPICENTER matchs are amazing, push SK to the limit! And G2 is G2, they can easily beat SK and after that lose to some tier 3 team. 2018 will be amazing. Hope SK keep their era.
2017-12-11 01:11
Brazil adre221 
It's been a long time since g2 played SK, personally I think SK would beat them comfortably nowadays.
2017-12-11 01:14
I don't know, SK beat them easily on Blast. But the matchs on ESL Pro League S5 and Dreamhack Malmo makes me feel uncomfortable against G2.
2017-12-11 01:20
Brazil adre221 
That was a long time ago, when SK had felps. Now they are stronger than ever, if VP on plow mode can't stop them, a team that has fallen off massively like g2 sure can't either.
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2017-12-11 01:22
Brazil razorheadd 
the only team that can beat sk is astralis because they have the best counter-strat for sk. When astralis play their A game and don't choke, it's hard for sk to win
2017-12-11 01:28
I would say g2 or vp. They always play SK hard... when they make it far enough in the tournament to face them that is
2017-12-11 01:54
Australia BTwice 
Well it'll be interesting to see how they play with felps in Boston. It's such a stupid rule but every team has to role with it.
2017-12-11 03:06
cogu | 
Brazil blackg4 
The real challenge for SK is the ex-immortals in the next major just wait
2017-12-11 03:09
Astralis is their best and toughest opponent for sure, it might be G2 if they could make it out of groups. Personally the only team I "fear" as a fan of SK is Astralis because they matchup well against each other and I always know it's going to be a tough game for them, especially on Overpass, Astralis are definitely the best team in the world on that match but it's very close almost every time. In the beginning I didn't really like Astralis because if this but I have huge respect for them now and truly consider them one of the best organisations in the scene for their consistentncy, attitude, skill and more than anything their teamwork and coordination.
2017-12-11 13:38
Astralis and faze vs sk (10vs5) coldzera would still rekt this kidds kkkkkkk
2017-12-11 16:24
Baitzera bot
2017-12-11 19:20
0/8 europoor
2017-12-13 12:46
Europoor?? Hahah brazil 0 eur monkey
2017-12-14 22:27
br > your 3rd world eastern european country in everything #cryisfree
2017-12-17 14:46
Astralis usually manages to beat them dont they? Or atleast be competitive with them.
2017-12-11 16:25
It's Okey Ez4GODTARES <3
2017-12-11 16:32
Canada Herodionus 
Astralis seems to be the only team to consistently win games against them, I believe SK has one map on them in head to head, but they seem to like kryptonite to SK when Astralis is in good form
2017-12-11 16:35
Brazil maximoff66 
Not actually tbh,they're Just a really good when in form,and they dont choke like faze does against sk, so for sure sk is gonna lose sometimes,but i wouldn't say "kryptonite" since sk have beaten then a lot of times aswell,thats more like g2
2017-12-12 03:09
Lithuania Tocha 
gonna be simple for s1mple
2017-12-11 16:41
Brazil TonimSan 
The only team that can really win SK convincingly is G2, when they are in super saiyan mode, but it's a shame that 90% of the time they just play in Yamcha mode.
2017-12-11 17:36
Brazil MommyStealer 
2017-12-11 18:13
A real challenger: Major 2018 OpTic vs SK Gaming Mirage/Train Cache Cobblestone Overpass Inferno
2017-12-11 17:41
United Kingdom NER0cs 
Astralis match up well against them, as long as its not in a final lol. Feel like SK need to be knocked out in quarters/semis by a g2/astralis so their clutch factor plays less of a role
2017-12-11 17:44
Hungary kolgab 
if Astralis play 100% and fer,cold or Fallen underperfom... then maybe Astralis in tax, teamplay only Astralis match with SK but they have less firepower when everyone playing 100% some FaZe-Astralis kombo beat SK allday maybe
2017-12-11 18:06
United States tediousmcgee 
fuckSK will 16-0 SK
2017-12-11 17:47
G2 is kryptonite
2017-12-11 18:06
Hungary kolgab 
G2 like Stoke in pl... always on bottom but rekt top5 at home :D
2017-12-11 18:07
Let's see if my Fnatic can beat sk
2017-12-11 18:08
Faze can beat them if EVERYONE steps up. In the grandfinal Niko sucked hard (prbly cuz he isnt experienced and cant handle pressure that Well) but olof just went half 2015. Because Niko didnt step Up they lost but I think they can do it and it will happen.
2017-12-11 18:17
sad to say only VP has posed a real threat, blastpro was the biggest struggle for SK it would seem,
2017-12-11 18:17
Brazil ibra_84 
What happens is that any of the T1 teams can win or surprise SK and some tournament, but SK's merit is that they can adapt to their opponents very quickly, and that's why the teams can not beat SK in a row If Sk loses to an opponent, they can reinvent themselves during the game, so many cumbacks. or to approach differently in a next meeting, this change of strategies confuse and make difficult for the opponents of SK, which in my opinion makes of Fallen a genius.
2017-12-11 18:18
OpTic /close
2017-12-11 18:30
Virtus plow. (rarely)
2017-12-11 18:31
nip is the only team to have beaten them in bo3's s so NIP is their only challenger
2017-12-11 18:51
only VP can stop SK BRING VP BACK!!!!!
2017-12-11 18:58
Its very hard to win against cheaters. Wake up boyzzzz
2017-12-11 19:19
United States Den422 
French CS could do it if they made a roster change or made a team like this: Happy KennyS RpK ScreaM Maniac / apEX
2017-12-12 03:11
astralis and liquid(zews) are the only 2 teams that cause sk troubles and is always a tight match up. but sk are too strong and disciplined
2017-12-12 11:19
vp does it alot actually
2017-12-17 14:47
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