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If SK win the major
FoDa | 
Brazil VAITOMARNOCUGRINGODOCARALHO 
They are going to be without doubt the best team in CS:GO history /discuss
2017-12-10 23:12
i'd hate to see it but probably true, they'd be beating fnatic's 3 time major run as well
2017-12-10 23:13
you mean tie not beat
2017-12-10 23:19
yeah but more competitive era so probably higher level
2017-12-10 23:26
+1 also 4x the prize pool
2017-12-11 00:04
also while only having 2 majors per year rather than 3 that Fnatic did
2017-12-11 01:35
fnc won 11 tournaments in 2015 if im not wrong sk won 8 in 2017 imo the pronax fnatic was the best lineup ever.
2017-12-11 08:06
#71
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Australia KatVian 
They are getting pretty close to even tbh
2017-12-11 08:11
yeah but i still think the pronax fnatic is better than sk right now, atleast for the time being.
2017-12-11 13:28
+1
2018-01-01 00:59
Wow, counting with Fragbite Masters Showdown, torney with 2-3 teams, Fnatic was dominant but come on.
2017-12-11 13:34
ok even without it, still 10.. and also fragbite masters was such a stacked tournament ( even danish SK did damage ).
2017-12-11 13:37
First Person Lover Challenger Hahahaha, dont get me wrong, i love old fnatic, but dont over inflate their achievements.
2017-12-11 13:42
kk lets see, fnatic grand finals won in 2015 : 3-2 vs. Na'Vi 2-1 vs. NIP 2-1 vs. LG ( with a 16-0 at the start of the tournament ) Showdown XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX 2-0 vs. EnVyUs ( major ) 3-1 vs. Cloud9 2-1 vs. Na'Vi 3-0 vs. Virtus.Pro 2-1 vs. EnVyuS 2-1 vs. NIP ( major ) 2-0 vs. Titan SKG total achievements 13 ( Including LG achievements ) Fnatic total achievements 16 how can you even..
2017-12-11 13:51
Calm down, i'm not saying that SK it's better than Fnatic, I think its bullshit comparing them both. I'm just saying that ppl put Fnatic above where they rly were.
2017-12-11 13:58
here we go again..
2017-12-11 13:59
#95
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United States VeryColdGuy 
fnatic was good because LG were still practicing their strats, calm down ahmed, SK will win atleast half of the tournaments next year while fnatic will lose all of them.
2017-12-11 14:04
Forget about nowdays fnatic, you have to see what they've done, with the time they had, in the time they played.
2017-12-11 14:08
#97
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United States VeryColdGuy 
it's all luck, there were only like 3 good t1 teams during the time. Now they are shit since there are atleast 5 god tier teams with 20 teams that can win a tournament.
2017-12-11 14:13
Meh.
2017-12-11 14:14
how's calling me Ahmed going to trigger me.. i'm honestly more likely to get triggered by your iq than your stupid insults lol.
2017-12-11 14:17
#101
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United States VeryColdGuy 
cuz you know my iq is twice your dead brain
2017-12-11 14:37
It's not a more competitive era lol. Other teams have 5 years of CS:GO history and experience, but then so do SK. Fnatic had 3 years of CS:GO history and experience, but then so did all the other teams. The level of competitiveness is the same, but the bar across all teams is higher. That's like saying a university math challenge is more competitive than a high school math challenge because the math questions are harder. There is no parallel between the two. No shit the questions are harder, but the competitors are more intelligent and as such, they are equally evenly matched. The only way to compare eras and metas is to look at dominance of teams within the era/meta. Fnatic with 3 years CSGO exp >>>>>>>> Other teams with 3 years exp. SK with 5 years CSGO exp >>> Other teams with 5 years CSGO exp... And equivalently, the best 2019 CSGO team will be better than SK 2017, but it doesn't mean they'll be a greater or more dominant team, nor will they be in a more competitive era simply because CSGO has evolved with new knowledge.
2017-12-11 08:50
You write 'other teams' just to hide the fact we have way more tier1 teams now , before it was just fnatic tsm and envyus and NA scene was completely irrelevant
2017-12-11 12:22
lol ya... now we have: 1- international super team 2- french super team 3- 2 danish competitive team, one of them could be called a superteam (astralis) 4- NA teams arent irrelevant as u said, C9/Liquid could upset any tier 1 teams anyday (liquid upset SK 3 times this year) 5- Tier 2 teams with chances of upsetting tier 1 teams are bigger than ever... only blind fools cant see that SK isnt the best team in the history SO FAR (with prizes increasing, there will be new competitive teams and we will see even stronger teams.. who knows what we can expect in the future :P)
2017-12-11 13:46
hahah i know they aren't, but if sk win the boston 2018 major then they would probably be
2017-12-11 16:36
How can we have way more tier 1 teams now...? Tier 1 by definition means the consistently better teams. If you call a lot of teams tier 1, then that counter-intuitively defeats the purpose of tiers. The only tier 1 teams taking into account all of 2017 are SK, FaZe and Astralis. The NA scene is still irrelevant.
2017-12-11 19:13
#92
Snax | 
Spain Arzheus 
+1
2017-12-11 13:52
#2
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Australia Raychippy5 
You know how it goes. No fnx no major
2017-12-10 23:13
#114
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Brazil lks2 
I agree :(
2018-12-31 23:32
#3
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Brazil toxicGOD 
Impossible with felps, he didnt play for so long....
2017-12-10 23:13
They are using Felps though
2017-12-10 23:13
even better
2017-12-11 01:35
fallen and cold is def one of best cs players in history
2017-12-10 23:13
coldzera is so dominant today that is hard to say that olof or get_right was even close to him but in terms of lineup core and titles SK is without doubt the best edit: btw fallen best igl in csgo history
2017-12-10 23:21
FalleN is only TOP3 TOP3 3. Gabriel "FalleN" Toledo without doubt we can say he's one of the best IGL's in the world but still SK needs boltz cuz 2nd IGL in Team is really useful he's 3 best Tours was Dreamhack Open Cluj-Napoca where they defeated Fnatic at their group MLG Columbus 2016 where they have defeated Na'Vi 16:2 on Overpass but I wasn't been fair against VP on Overpass where fer used bug but fuck this shit ESL One Cologne 2016 Defeating Liquid in Final 2:0 2. Lukas "gla1ve" Rossander he changed Astr and cuz of his IGL'ing Astr Won IEM Kat and ELEAGUE Major 2017 1.Danilo "Zeus" Teslenko for me the best PC player of 2017 he changed Gambit Gaming to tier 7 Team but Gambit kicked Kane that's why Zeus left Gambit behind he's best achievement is 1st place at PGL Major Krakow 2017 Too much about Fallen but fuck this shit
2017-12-10 23:56
but none of this igl's are good in game and raw skill, fallen sometimes carries the shit out of the team and awps like a god, maybe not the best awper but one of the bests for sure and fallen achieved much more than those others, not saying they are shit, i respect your opinion :)
2017-12-10 23:58
And I respect you. Finally I met 5th Normal Brazilian
2017-12-11 00:03
well, his name literally means "go fuk yourself big cocked person from another country"
2017-12-11 01:27
does that offend someone? they can't understand and it's just a joke i dont go on the threads saying to everyone things like this btw just brazilians can understand, maybe portuguese people nt fake flagger
2017-12-11 02:55
well well, my dear braziliano no fim das contas, n eh fakeflagging se vc ta morando la after all, the flag = location, not place of birth
2017-12-11 03:52
Shut the Fuck up. Brazilans are really nice personalities'
2017-12-11 08:01
i am brazilian, u fucktard
2017-12-11 08:05
Prove it
2017-12-11 08:16
vc eh um macaco do caralho msm
2017-12-11 08:22
Ha Google Translate
2017-12-11 09:42
yep, thats correct u fucking gay midget, now go suck a fat dick full of cum
2017-12-11 13:46
Stop surfing the web and go finish washing dishes in toronto, you pleb
2017-12-11 15:49
toronto sucks, vancouver bestest
2017-12-11 22:45
#62
Dosia | 
Brazil mbassier 
pronax???
2017-12-11 01:59
#50
2017-12-11 02:54
#6
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United States Scvboy1 
It's already true. Fanatic and NiP had better runs but SK face WAY more competition.
2017-12-10 23:14
yes i think the same but swedes keep talking shit, if SK win they are probably gonna shut the fuck up and accept it at least one american that i can talk and dont say anything about monkeys and stuff :)
2017-12-10 23:18
#16
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United States Scvboy1 
I'm not into being a racist jerk, I just want to watch good CSGO and SK are the best team.
2017-12-10 23:20
at least someone that thinks here in HLTV ty scvboy :)
2017-12-10 23:22
#20
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Brazil ctnzera 
you must be fake flagger, i'm shocked
2017-12-10 23:22
#22
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United States Scvboy1 
Nope, I'm from Richmond Virgina. Not all American are jerks that's just what you see one TV and the internet.
2017-12-10 23:24
#29
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Brazil ctnzera 
actually i like american people in general, you are patriots and i think thats awesome! i'm just shocked to see this from a hltv user, not an american!
2017-12-10 23:30
#32
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United States Scvboy1 
Yeah that's very true, this site can be pretty cancerous sometime. Being from NA I'm used to it lol.
2017-12-10 23:31
#31
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Moldova OptimusBlyad 
*KEY WORD "IF"
2017-12-10 23:31
nt avangar fan
2017-12-10 23:31
#34
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Moldova OptimusBlyad 
u wot m8?
2017-12-10 23:32
it's just funny that you are trying to defend fnatic and NiP fans but are an Avangar fan good luck on the offline qualifier to the major
2017-12-10 23:34
#36
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Moldova OptimusBlyad 
Yo,i mean the key word is "IF" no one knows that will happen at the next upcoming majors
2017-12-10 23:33
yes, im just thinking about what is gonna happen, obviously SK is gonna be legends, but its unpredictable the rest, lets just watch the teams and be happy :)
2017-12-10 23:35
#42
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Moldova OptimusBlyad 
sure mate,let's be friends.i don't want any conflcts
2017-12-10 23:36
#21
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World b1uhwk 
You can really tell you're new. There was a bigger gap between the best of the best and the T2/3 teams yes but that makes NO difference to who's the best in the world. The best teams in the world are almost EXACTLY THE SAME as they were in 2014. As for the dumbass excuse about NiP that usually follows about the game being new and them being the only one to play it properly... well everyone had the same amount of time.
2017-12-10 23:22
#24
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United States Scvboy1 
Kid NiP were beating Amatures in lol when the Major format came and there was more competition the only won 1 Major. Fanatic are better than NiP to be honest and this SK team beats both.
2017-12-10 23:26
#55
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World b1uhwk 
"Amatures in lol" ????? "Fanatic" ??? But anyway, no, peak fnatic still better. 3 majors, more dominant than SK were in a similar time period. When SK win another major, then it'll be up for debate.
2017-12-11 00:36
#7
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Hungary lemusz 
if they win the next major i stop watching csgo majors and start playing pubg majors
2017-12-10 23:14
ResidentSleeper watching a game that SK is in
2017-12-10 23:48
#8
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Brazil fallenzeraSK 
No bolts no major, but i dont care, i want titles, this year 8,great
2017-12-10 23:14
#9
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Brazil megustapelear 
twitter.com/G2apEX/status/93997540218914.. They probably already are. but when they win their 3rd it will be to end any doubters
2017-12-10 23:17
to shut up the swedes that keep complaining
2017-12-10 23:19
bump
2018-01-07 16:37
As of right now, people still argue whether Fnatic or Luminosity/SK is the best of all time, but if they win another major, I think majority of the community will agree that SK has taken over Fnatic. As for NiP, they had the most dominant run, but they are kinda out of the equation considering it was during CS:GO's infant period. I am by no means an SK fan, but you have to give them credit for all their achievements.
2017-12-10 23:17
#18
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Brazil megustapelear 
+1
2017-12-10 23:21
btw last year with fnx they had like 8 months without losing a single de_train game nobody talks about that :/
2017-12-10 23:25
KINGFNXGOD
2017-12-10 23:35
agreed but they aint gonna win i think
2017-12-10 23:18
dont stop believing #RunSKG #VamosSK
2017-12-10 23:19
#74
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Australia KatVian 
With felps tho :\ not sure I they can go deep as they are still a good team even with felps.
2017-12-11 08:40
#26
FalleN | 
Portugal Draawyy 
They already are the best csgo team in the History , Faze Fans just accept :) prnt.sc/hlqfk6 prnt.sc/hlqfow
2017-12-10 23:27
#27
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Poland Hell2k 
Who will be play instead Boltz?
2017-12-10 23:27
#30
Rickeh | 
New Zealand HeliiZ 
Felps LUL
2017-12-10 23:30
Felps is still a good player.
2018-12-31 22:30
#113
Rickeh | 
New Zealand HeliiZ 
SK wont be nearly as good at the major than if they had boltz tho.
2018-12-31 23:27
Which line up won the biggest amount of tournaments in 2017, again?
2018-01-01 00:56
#118
Rickeh | 
New Zealand HeliiZ 
Which lineup also went out in quarters to g2, astralis and lost a bo3 to heroic? Not to mention that SK aren't even practicing with Felps atm according to TACO
2018-01-01 01:33
#119
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Sweden Trkmag 
Which lineup basically lost to VP in a BO5?
2018-01-01 01:34
#122
Rickeh | 
New Zealand HeliiZ 
I'd rather nearly lose to an overperforming VP who also beat FaZe, G2 and Gambit that tournament than lose 3 maps without getting 10 rounds on any of them to Heroic
2018-01-01 01:38
Felps was having problems with his family, so he was playing really bad, but doesn't mean the line up is bad. Also, you're a fucking moron if you believe that it's true they won't practice with felps, lol. They got top 4 with fox. With felps they're gonna win it 100%, kangarooooooo
2018-01-01 01:38
#124
Rickeh | 
New Zealand HeliiZ 
1. There are no Kangaroos in my country 2. Felps hasn't played any matches since october and SK have already formed their playstyle around boltz, they have to reform their playstyle around felps again in the space of a month and a half so they wont nearly have as much prep as a team like Faze or G2, for example.
2018-01-01 01:42
Didn't read, bye
2018-01-01 01:49
#28
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Portugal RKO23 
me being an sk fan , i dont believe that they'll win the major with FELPS. after all , their tactics with felps were fucking them , pratically everyone on sk said that. this is why this sk is better even though i dont like boltz playstyle sometimes. idk , he's slow or slow to react , but yes , he's solid. felps on the other hand , the playstyle or tactics of sk with him , is way different than with boltz ,they explained in an interview , is around here on hltv , i think it was from the epicenter tournament on train. a written interview. plus ,cold stated on an interview that their goal on major was to retain legend status with felps. i forgot where i saw it as well. sorry it was a long time ago and unfortunally this website doesnt save all your posts nor all your threads... but if they win , ofc i'll be happy ,i'm an sk fan after all. is just that i dont believe that them with felps they'll win , vp will be there , so most likely vp will eliminate sk , or one of the best , such as liquid , cloud9 , faze , g2 , astralis , fnatic. you know those guys. but then again , if they win the 3rd major , the crybabies are gonna say "oh but they didn't won 2 majors in a row like fnatic." or "oh yes they did , but it wasnt with the felps , lineup... or boltz lineup" stuff like that. those people annoy the shit outta me.
2017-12-10 23:30
there's no way to convince those people, they will always say that you are new to cs and NiP and fnatic eras are still much better
2017-12-10 23:38
#104
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Portugal RKO23 
yeah , those are fanboys lol
2017-12-11 16:21
felps too bad for sk my friend
2017-12-10 23:32
i think VP will win major.
2017-12-10 23:34
#75
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Australia KatVian 
As sick as that would be it's not going to happen they have been to shit for too long. Epicenter was an outlier and is not going to happen again. They have the potential and always have had but they just can't capitalise on it
2017-12-11 08:45
wait till their girls and boys are in kindergarden. :)
2017-12-11 12:08
#41
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Brazil adre221 
They already are.
2017-12-10 23:36
2017-12-10 23:41
#43
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Oceania vwgolf 
3 Majors no doubt not only best csgo team not only best cs team but best Esports team! Fnatic first major doesnt count since Dreamhack 2013 was a lan party
2017-12-10 23:38
#47
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Poland Hell2k 
SK T1 still the best
2017-12-10 23:46
#76
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Australia KatVian 
Final Home > sk T1
2017-12-11 08:48
#45
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Brazil davidzor 
It will be hard. I dont think they cant win but will be hard with Felps now that theres another chemistry.
2017-12-10 23:40
#51
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Brazil TopperMan 
depends on how felps performs when he comes back. If they can get that honeymoon thing going on with felps and a different style than the one teams' expect from them, they have a chance of winning for sure
2017-12-11 00:01
They do not even have to be so creative; they can try the strategies that they were using when they won ECS S3 and ESL One Cologne. Obviously it is good to try new things, felps is practicing right now here in Brazil and everybody knows he is a good T1 player. Edit: even dev1ce thinks that twitter.com/dev1ce/status/92102797043691..
2017-12-11 00:43
#66
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Brazil TopperMan 
felps definetly is a great player, I just feel that sk needs a lot of adjustments if to play well with him. I'm just not sure the things they were doing with felps back then would work as well now.
2017-12-11 03:45
Maybe a mix with old/new strats would be good and give them a chance to go well on the major.
2017-12-11 15:41
#53
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Brazil H_Romeu_Pinto 
-Boltz No major
2017-12-11 00:04
#58
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North America PsychoLogical 
SK isn't going to win the major, everyone knows that.
2017-12-11 01:29
#61
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Estonia coldyLiNh0 
they wont. stop delusioning
2017-12-11 01:42
no worries G2 next champion, rising from ashes Mark my words
2017-12-11 09:45
True they will, if they aren't already but some eu ppl won't accept it and live in the past so we'll say 1 more major, but i honestly doubt their chances with Felps i think he's gonna be in the 5% worst players of the entire major and tbh i feel like the team cohesion will be pretty bad with him, sucks that SK has to play with him because you really want all the top teams at their top form for the major but we will see I'm calling Gambit back2back LMAOOO
2017-12-11 13:35
+1
2017-12-11 13:40
SK wont win major, but they will be legends
2017-12-11 13:38
There's more chance Gambit wins again than SK
2017-12-11 14:13
bump
2018-12-31 22:21
#112
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Brazil digozamaral 
sk wont win,probably faze or astralis
2018-12-31 22:33
#117
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Poland MagicznYY 
Best team in the world is VP and will be the best all time
2018-01-01 00:59
They are already best team in CS history
2018-01-01 01:36
Its the second time they are playing with stand in 3 majors. Bad luck for SK
2018-01-01 01:37
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