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Tier 1 tournaments Faze 5 2nd places,4 1st places. SK 1 2nd place,6 1st places.
2017-12-18 18:25
flusha | 
Germany felo 
BUT who did FaZe loose to in most finals? SK
2017-12-18 18:26
It happened 2 times.Sidney and S6
2017-12-18 18:27
Brazil Karl_Tanner 
If ur gonna consider ecs tier 1 then you'll have to consider dh summer as well
2017-12-18 18:31
100k$ versus 750k$.
2017-12-19 13:08
Belgium KevinGatesYo 
Lost on ECS s3 finals and Cologne semi finals aswell.
2017-12-19 22:18
dupreeh | 
Croatia Waylay 
Lmao fallen lover...its SK problem if they couldnt qualify for ECS
2017-12-19 13:45
Belgium KevinGatesYo 
Tbh ECS s4 wasn’t a tier 1 event, compare it to ECS s3 though. SK had to beat Astralis on the semis and FaZe on the finals to win, while faze had to beat Clown9 and Mousesports.
2017-12-19 22:19
If you don't consider ECS tier 1 then you are braindead, every top tier teams was there, it's not FaZe fault that many of them didn't manage to qualify to the final stage of the event.
2017-12-19 21:39
Brazil Karl_Tanner 
"every top tier teams was there" 0/8
2017-12-19 21:45
2017-12-19 21:50
Brazil Karl_Tanner 
So ur just braindead... ok
2017-12-19 22:07
Yes, try to deny that only because SK didn't manage to get past 1st stage of the event, typical SK fanboyism. Everyone who have higher inteligence than a potato wouldn't even try to deny it.
2017-12-19 22:20
That makes no damn sense, ecs has had SK, FaZe, Astralis and g2, dh summer had mo1 except SK
2017-12-19 21:54
Brazil Karl_Tanner 
Ecs season 4 did not have sk or g2, and astralis didn't have dev1ce.
2017-12-19 22:07
if sk and g2 didn't make it it's their fault and that means better teams have taken their place, teams that DID make it. cry is free
2017-12-20 00:01
Brazil Karl_Tanner 
Well, in the end SK are still top 1, and faze are still their bitch, so ya, cry is free :>
2017-12-20 01:16
I’m talking about season 3, that’s prolly my b. Also I do know SK won both summer and season 3. Season 4 was rough doe
2017-12-20 05:44
but if faze won thoose 2 times it would be Faze 3 2nd places,4 3st places. SK 3 2nd place,4 1st places.
2017-12-18 18:32
United States tediousmcgee 
but they didn't, and its not. FaZe aren't equal to SK, atleast not yet.
2017-12-18 19:25
they are... and they are better. lol you will see at the major. and even if SK managed to place higher than faze i think they will dominate rest of the year. MARK THIS COMMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SK WILL GO OUT IN GROUP STAGE
2017-12-19 13:28
sk>faze, anytime lol. You are delusional to think otherwise
2017-12-19 20:42
okay buddy, xD use the word i always use for sk fans idiot. u really think im serious? i mean i do think they will go out in groups, i mean statisticly they won't but i have this feeling and i hope i'm correct. btw: You're delusional just like any other SK fangays, don't revert the words
2017-12-19 21:35
Are you high by any chance? sk>Faze, there is literally no discussion
2017-12-19 23:48
there literally is lol >closed
2017-12-20 00:09
Obviously for a faze fangay there is.
2017-12-20 00:09
delusional sk fanboy here
2017-12-20 00:10
stop being a delusional fan, sk is already tired of beating faze
2017-12-19 20:46
okay buddy, xD use the word i always use for sk fans idiot. u really think im serious? i mean i do think they will go out in groups, i mean statisticly they won't but i have this feeling and i hope i'm correct. btw: You're delusional just like any other SK fangays, don't revert the words
2017-12-19 21:35
United States Shadow272 
sk wont have boltz in the major so even if faze beats sk, it wont be with the full team it would be with a stand-in
2017-12-19 21:38
not really... they will play with felps wich has been on the roster for a while so yeah idk where that comes from?
2017-12-19 22:17
how can they be = SK if they can't beat SK?
2017-12-18 18:27
Faze can't beat SK,but SK lost versus another teams.
2017-12-18 18:28
yet FaZe lost every series that they played against SK, NiKo is yet to win a bo3 or bo5 against SK since he joined FaZe, H2H SK is better.
2017-12-18 18:29
Yes SK is better than Faze right now.But I mean they are similar if we count overall 2017 year.SK is only a little bit better cuz they won some tier 2-3 tournaments in first half.
2017-12-18 18:31
not really, FaZe went out in groups in both majors while SK made to playoffs
2017-12-18 18:36
Its just like bonus points for SK.Finals in tier 1 tournament is better than going to playoffs at major.
2017-12-18 18:38
majors >>>> tier 1 tourneys
2017-12-18 19:23
Winning major >>> winning tier 1 tournament,major 8th place <<<< winning tier 1 tournament.
2017-12-19 13:09
SK won more tier 1 tourneys than FaZe and made further into Majors so whats your point
2017-12-19 18:29
Faze were in more finals.
2017-12-19 19:27
United States Droidd 
You shouldn’t even consider the first major even though they’ve made it out of groups because they only had 2/5 lineup at Eleague.
2017-12-19 13:43
Canada VeryWeirdGuy 
+1 Have a weird day! -VeryWeirdGuy
2017-12-18 18:35
Kuwait Wow_HG 
Faze>>SK in skill Sk>>abism>>Faze in game sense and tactics
2017-12-18 18:28
Skill is game sense + aim.Faze's aim > SK's aim.Faze's tactics << SK's tactics.
2017-12-18 18:29
I think discipline is also the key word. FaZe tend to struggle when dealing with tactical, highly drilled teams. For an example, they'll stomp the living shit out of C9 at every opportunity but they'll struggle when facing sides such as SK, gob b's BIG, Gambit, etc
2017-12-19 13:23
Indeed my friend, if one of teams wanna take aim fights faze will be happy to take it and wreck them but when there is a team with tactical approach they struggle.
2017-12-19 20:45
Netherlands shavedballsack 
faze beat mouz, what a surprise
2017-12-18 18:29
I didn't get meaning of comment.What you want to say ?
2017-12-18 18:32
one of faze 1st place wins was against mousesports who didn't really stand chance
2017-12-18 18:32
Lekr0 | 
United Kingdom dxy^ 
Yet this team was playing amazing CS, just because a team is usually not that good it does not mean that can not play CS at T1 level. In the finals i reckon SK would have struggled against mouz. It was a good final. So back to your point. They stood a huge chance after taking Nuke from them. Stop trying to find excuses to degrade FaZe.
2017-12-18 18:49
mouz choked in last ropunds of inferno, but played really well
2017-12-19 13:21
Of course not.
2017-12-18 18:30
Deal with stats.
2017-12-18 18:31
SK would destroy FaZe any day so no, they are not equal.
2017-12-18 18:32
SK before -felps sucked so idk.Right now yes SK is better how I said but overall in 2017 we can discuss.
2017-12-18 18:35
FaZe took two titles against Astralis, once against Liquid and barely won against Mouz, lost to NiP while SK destroyed the world's best teams in GFs of 2017 except for Cloud9.
2017-12-18 18:38
and got destroyed by liquid and heroic and nip??
2017-12-19 19:39
We're talking about finals only.
2017-12-19 20:41
FaZe consistently losing to good teams Astralis/SK/NIP at Oakland and consistently beating t2 teams Mouse, Liquid. SK even their t2 events they beat tier 1 teams on finals Summit- Gambit-bo5 DH Summer-Fnc olof/dennis/jw/flusha/krimz bo3 IEM Sidney-FaZe bo5 ECS-FaZe bo3 Cologne-C9 bo5 Epicenter-VP bo5 Blast-Astralis bo3 EPL-FaZe bo5 FaZe isnt equall
2017-12-18 18:31
NiP is not tier one.Just NiP magic fired at Oakland.Faze won versus Astralis finals (when Astalis had Devve). Gambit,Fnatic,VP and C9 aren't tier 1 and were not.
2017-12-18 18:34
Gambit with Zeus which won the major and DH Fnatic with the legendary roster VP best run 2017 beating the shit out of your dear FaZe C9 best run 2017 with Shroud best performance ever Year Mouse and Liquid is better :>
2017-12-18 18:38
Gambit with Zeus sucked everything before major.DH was tier 3 tournament.Fnatic's 2016 lineup is not legendary.2015 with Pronax was.VP played well only first half and epicenter,you can't say that they are tier 1.Liquid won versus SK so yes they are surely tier 2,Mouz is also tier 2.
2017-12-19 13:12
funny how you didn't mention SK losing to teams like Heroic, Liquid & G2 G2 has the better h2h against SK G2 #1?
2017-12-18 18:39
SK was in a slump and they had felps They fall just like Fnx era Good luck beating them with boltz
2017-12-18 18:40
they've already been beaten Oakland
2017-12-18 18:42
NIP magic just like last year SK already smash them twice after thaat And they ended champions so
2017-12-18 18:43
United States Droidd 
Gambit, C9, VP Tier 1 Pick one
2017-12-19 13:45
LUL the same nip heroic and liquid that beat SK XD LUL
2017-12-19 19:40
Brazil maximoff66 
6>4. Faze can reach Second place as much as they want,still 6>4
2017-12-18 18:48
We can't count only 1st places.Its not correct.
2017-12-19 13:13
Whats your point ? I don't count head to head.I say overall.
2017-12-19 13:38
Then just count without stupid conclusions like "FaZe = SK" because FaZe =/= SK.
2017-12-19 13:39
By stats in 2017 they are pretty same.Its like Liquid won versus SK bo3 matches but it doesn't mean that SK is not better.
2017-12-19 13:40
Then why write "FaZe = SK". "FaZe stats = SK stats" would be more correct, although it's also not true.
2017-12-19 13:44
SK is SK .... SK still top1
2017-12-19 13:26
faze did more finals and there is not a huge difference between 1st places. FaZe is deffinitely more consistant, FaZe > SK
2017-12-19 13:26
not really, sk is honestly the best team in world
2017-12-19 20:46
thats why they made 2 more finals and have only 2 less 1st places? kk xd both teams are equally good but faze is more consistent, means they r better
2017-12-19 21:05
We are Legends, We Are Loyal, We Are Best. if you dont know Who We Are ? We Are Ninjas in Pyjamas.
2017-12-19 13:27
France kennySsSsS 
lul bait
2017-12-19 21:14
faze best aim sk best tactics 2 best teams atm
2017-12-19 13:45
Better win finals than lose in the finals 6>4 SK won 6/7 Finals in big events - 85% win rate FAZE Won 4/9 Finals - 47% win rate
2017-12-19 21:42
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