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Zowie ??
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Poland CyCu97 
Hi Guys i need help, which mouse zowie is better for full auto player?:D I think about ec2-a / ZA 12/13 or maybe another one? i prefer claw grip :P
2017-12-29 02:26
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#1
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Poland CyCu97 
and what zowie mousepad you prefer to use? new or old blue g-sr or black g-sr?
2017-12-29 02:26
Steelseries Rival 300 Steelseries QcK+ dont buy aiming equipment from a monitor company
2017-12-29 02:30
#3
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Poland CyCu97 
no one using rival 300 in 2k18 :d
2017-12-29 02:30
the rival 310 is out lol
2017-12-29 02:35
Price difference isn't worth it.
2017-12-29 02:36
Rival 310 is amazing and a really underrated mouse compared to the overrated Zowie mices with garbage clicks and scrollwheel.
2017-12-29 15:38
#51
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Finland lennub 
+1 rival 310 so underrated but best build quality of all current esports mice.
2017-12-29 15:59
#20
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World ZMDR 
Zowie is one of the oldest esports centred mice brands around. Being acquired by benq doesnt change anything.
2017-12-29 04:23
#22
vanity | 
United Kingdom camzh 
uk brain
2017-12-29 04:52
#25
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Portugal Yaxok 
Bought rival 500, best mice ever... Had a 300 before, sensor is perfect tho.
2017-12-29 04:59
#27
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Germany Mafuba 
monitor company ??? zowie started with mouse and mosuepad years ago, benqu buy the company... it have nothing to do with the monitors. retard
2017-12-29 05:11
#4
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Norway Sparta_amatory 
Overrated, overpriced mouse even tho I use zowie za-12 right now, its still among the worst mice I ever had. Only 4 months, already problems with weel (jumping), something loose in the mouse makes sound and I feel it when I move the mouse. Sensor is the only thing that is good in this mouse. Mousepad- just use any black gamer mousepad Imo Steelseries Optic Rival, Rival 300, Deathadder Chroma were much better, Optical Rival was the best mouse Ive ever had, but too big I also think that Logitech G640 is much much much better than Zowie, but never tried. I am so dissapointed by Zowie, for that price they managed to make a 3d world mouse with shit quality. Positive sides of Zowie mice: 1 sensor is good like RIvals, Click buttom is good, everything other is just shit in this mouse
2017-12-29 02:35
#8
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Poland CyCu97 
at the moment i using g403 with g640 pad but tomorrow i going to complait it, sensor problems :(
2017-12-29 02:37
I ordered g403 right now. What kind of sensor problems u have?
2017-12-29 04:12
Wtf are u doing with ur mouse then lol ive had my za12 for over a year and its still as good as new
2017-12-29 02:41
I am not doing anything special with it. I am not a hardcore gamer either. Idk, mb I was unlucky, but I think when u pay that price, then it has to be quality. Like I said, Rival and deathadder were much better, but I am thinking of changing back to Rival 300 now
2017-12-29 02:44
he doesnt have any zowie mice, lol saying that zowie mices are overated and overpriced LOL. Thats why 80% of the pros are using zowie mice(mostly EC SERIES) and the 20% if wasnt for the sponsor contracts they would be using zowie products..why? Because zowie mices are the best
2017-12-29 02:44
2017-12-29 02:51
doesnt change anything, everything u said is not truth and the fact are on comment above, cya
2017-12-29 02:52
I dont care if u dont believe me, but why u think I would lie?
2017-12-29 02:56
where can i get that pc desk?: D
2017-12-29 15:38
+1
2017-12-29 02:44
#7
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Yugoslavia bleaq 
ec2-b>ec2-a
2017-12-29 02:37
Mouse: zowie's not good, try logitech instead, g203 or gpro if you like small mice, g403 if you have big hands Mousepad: the benq g-sr black is one of the best if you like a control surface, if you want speed qck heavy or plus
2017-12-29 02:42
Not sure what you mean by "full auto player" - but I'd go with the EC2-B or ZA12/13 depending on which shape you prefer. However I'd say go for the Logitech G203/G Pro or G403 if you're willing to consider other options than Zowie. They're better.
2017-12-29 02:43
a silver way of saying spray and pray i guess.
2017-12-29 02:54
no thats what polish people call "spray control" directly in polish "full auto", so he means he rather spray
2017-12-29 15:38
#21
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World ZMDR 
In 2017 or 2018 you shouldn't be buying any mouse without a 3360 sensor. Zowie ECB series and all the Logitech mice seem to have them. The newest SteelSeries have them too. You could also wait for Zowie to release it in their other mice some time next year.
2017-12-29 04:24
#23
vanity | 
United Kingdom camzh 
no difference between 3310 and 3360
2017-12-29 04:53
#24
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World ZMDR 
3310 has a lower tracking speed which makes it kinda annoying for extremely low sens scopers like me it also fails the tilt slam test where if your mouse is slightly tilted to a side and you do a swipe it spins out if you dont have those two problems youll be fine with the 3310 but theres still no reason to not have the 3360 when their mice are expensive af anyway. im sure pixart wouldnt name the two sensors two different names if they were the same piece of silicone :)
2017-12-29 04:57
#29
vanity | 
United Kingdom camzh 
i cant feel a difference at all the most important thing about a mouse is how it feels not the sensor
2017-12-29 15:27
#40
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World ZMDR 
1)shape 2)weight 3) sensor but all 3 are important and i most certainly can detect the difference between the two but its understandable that some people cant
2017-12-29 15:43
im using 3050 on kinzu v3, and comparing it with my 3310 on Ec2-a there is 0 difference in tracking, and even tho i use really low sens, i cant make them spin out or to track bad. They just perform excellent, shape and size matter the most in that case. On the other hand, sensor on DA chroma is far the best i've used in term of snappines and tracking, even noticeably better than logitech's 3360
2017-12-29 15:36
#41
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World ZMDR 
i had a 3050 in my older cooler master mouse and it was an absolute nightmare every time i did a decent flick, the mouse would spaz out and i end up looking at the sky. move your mouse really fast and see for yourself. i play at guardians scope sens so its really low and my flicks are quite fast to make up for that.
2017-12-29 15:44
CM had poor equipment since ever, it's all about the sensor implementation. Both kinzu v3 and rival 100 performed really well because sensors were tweaked and optimized properly. I really really stressed my kinzu and ec2 to the oblivion and I couldnt make them spin out or similar, only possible way is a tilt slam way, which is really really really hard to do ... I also tried some china mouse with 3310 and it couldn't even track without jitter on colored mousepads XD
2017-12-29 15:48
Kinzu v3 sensor is absolute garbage. If you don't feel any difference between Kinzu and Zowie with 3310, well...
2017-12-29 15:49
Well i do, My kinzu can has perfectly stable 1000hz poling rate, but both of my Ec2-a' s fluctuated between 700~1000hz
2017-12-29 15:52
Polling rate has nothing to do with sensor. Also stability of polling rate is more about your hardware and software configuration/optimization. overclock.net/t/1550666/usb-polling-prec.. Of course there are few exceptions like Razer mice, but still. I had very stable results with my Zowie ZA13, as well as with other mice. And I'm fan of Kinzu myself because it has perfect shape for me. I has had all versions (first one, v2 and v3). But v2 and v3 sensors are not even close to 3310. Even v1 was better although it has built-in acceleration.
2017-12-29 16:00
#50
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World ZMDR 
Nah, its not cooler master's implementation that was causing the issue, although their build quality is indeed trash. I measured some of my faster flicks to be around the 5m/s mark, which is wayyy higher than the 2m/s the 3050 is rated for. The best sensor implementations of the 3050 allow for up to 4.0 in some mice but that still won't cut it. Thats a ridiculously fast flick i dont hit often but it still does occasionally happen. The 3310 can hit up to 5.0 with proper implementations but its officially rated at around 3.5. Only the 3360 with its 6.5m/s tracking speed lets me play without thinking about how i flick etc. pixart.com.tw/product_data.asp?product_i.. pixart.com.tw/product_data.asp?product_i.. pixart.com/product_data.asp?product_id=1..
2017-12-29 15:58
dont buy zowie. clicks and scrollwheel are garbage
2017-12-29 05:06
#28
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Germany Mafuba 
i use zowie za12 since 2 years. the next mouse i buy will be zowie EC1-B CS:GO edition or a logitech G403
2017-12-29 05:19
lately the logitech mice are better than the zowie in my opinion with the new sensor.
2017-12-29 15:29
+11111
2017-12-29 15:58
Rival 310, Logitech G403 > All Zowie. Zowie is overrated. Most pro use it because Zowie sponsor their teams and not becuase they're the best mice, same shit with HyperX Headphones. SteelSeries Rival 310 & Logitech G403 sensor, clicks and scrollwheel are much better. Zowie have really bad clicks and scrollwheel.
2017-12-29 15:36
#32
Aleksib | 
Finland Juzaa 
rocketjumpninja.com/find-a-mouse/ Best place to assess which mouse you should use.
2017-12-29 15:32
#42
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World ZMDR 
+1
2017-12-29 15:45
Damn I had double click problem with 1st ec2-a, used warranty, they could not fix it so they gave me a brand new one after 2 weeks, and 2nd mouse broke as well after 2 months (sensor died)... Never buying zowie again, terrible scroll, even worse side clicks, poor build quality overall ... Even tho shape is amazing, those are deal breakers... Get a well known top tier quality/performance mouse such as Steelseries Rival 310/ Rival 110 (shape and grip are the most important) or Deathadder Elite if you prefer bulkier ones. Avoid zowie and logitech at all costs because their quality control is lower than Device and Coldzera height
2017-12-29 15:34
#35
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Brazil FalleNNNNNNii 
2017-12-29 15:34
#39
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Albania XLN7 
I used fk1 for 2-3 years, got no problems at all. Before that, I had Microsoft 3.0, so I went for EC-1A just because of the shape. First one I got, scroll broke after a month. Used the warranty, and got a new mouse. Scroll is working properly on this one, but it has started to make a weird noise...
2017-12-29 15:42
Claw grip = FK or ZA series.
2017-12-29 15:48
Zowie GTF-X is a really good mousepad i use it atm. It has way less friction than the GSR mousepad have.
2017-12-29 15:48
#53
s1mple | 
United Kingdom migzzss 
Fk2. Will be the best mouse you've ever tried. Really good one.
2017-12-29 16:03
#54
fnx | 
Sweden martla 
zowie products are kinda outdated and overrated, they cant really compete with the other top mice anymore. if i were you i would either get a logitech or a steelseries, or wait until zowie updates their lineup
2017-12-29 16:07
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