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HLTV LOGIC XD
coldzera | 
Brazil coldzao 
someone from pros should expose hltv go play 1 tournament get 1.8 rating and then go inactive ofc he is highest average this year xDDDD ez top 1 thats what device did, sitting in hospital he shouldve gotten -1 rating for every tournament not attenting
2018-01-13 14:47
na my dude, cant u put puzzle pieces together? HLTV = Danish Device = Danish Profit?
2018-01-13 14:48
This. Danish over Brazilians will create a huge ''thread-storm''. More threads = more pageviews more pageviews = more ads display profit. Probably this also has to be with the polemic of other ranking placements even if no Danes are there. But its all about pa$ta (._.')
2018-01-13 16:05
y, like 2015 one when getright got top10 or something stupid like that
2018-01-13 16:13
#2
fer | 
Brazil raoGOD 
why take HLTV rating so serious? we all know simple should be higher than KennyS and Adren higher than Hobbit.
2018-01-13 14:48
0/8 s1mple #15+
2018-01-13 15:03
Maybe HLTV got tired of all the baiting and shitposting and decided to fight fire with fire. And thus we have this top20 of 2017...
2018-01-13 15:17
True
2018-01-13 15:21
fer better top 2 this year or hltv is dead officialy
2018-01-13 15:55
#3
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Malta 74c00 
WIth HLTV logic i should be better than scream since i have higher HS% on faceit :)
2018-01-13 14:49
ur cheating dud reported for cheating all players from poland r cheating or maybe ur just global we all know all hltv users r global elites with lvl10 faceit and G rank on ESEA
2018-01-13 15:10
#31
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Malta 74c00 
Malta > Poland more cleaner flag :)
2018-01-13 15:11
okokok > > > still Indonesia
2018-01-13 15:11
#4
fer | 
Brazil Nickzim 
Played 5 lan tournaments less than fallen, got half of the MVPs, won a quarter of the tournaments and gets top 5, fuck logic.
2018-01-13 14:55
#11
Hunter | 
Canada PyroOOF 
it goes by big events, not by events in general. Otherwise players would just boost their stats by going to a shit ton of tier 2/3 events.
2018-01-13 15:02
thats what s1mple does by the way
2018-01-13 15:03
#15
fer | 
Brazil Nickzim 
Device didn't play 3 big events on the final of the year, what's your point?
2018-01-13 15:03
#21
Hunter | 
Canada PyroOOF 
Why does that matter? FalleN didn't play ECS either btw. Anyways, at the majority of the big events that both FalleN and device played in, device had a better rating. Early in the year especially. And he had a vastly better performance at both majors.
2018-01-13 15:07
#25
fer | 
Brazil Nickzim 
Yeah? And how many of them device won?
2018-01-13 15:09
#30
Hunter | 
Canada PyroOOF 
Oh so by your logic its only winning tournament that matter? So Taco should be like the 4th ranked player because he got carried to tournament wins?
2018-01-13 15:11
#35
fer | 
Brazil Nickzim 
No, but fallen had a great rating and was essential in every tournament they won. Following your logic s1mple should be at least on top 3 cause he has savage stats.
2018-01-13 15:13
#39
Hunter | 
Canada PyroOOF 
No, I already covered that in my first response "Otherwise players would just boost their stats by going to a shit ton of tier 2/3 events." Tournaments they won have an effect, but that should not be above the fact that for most the year device outperformed FalleN.
2018-01-13 15:15
#46
fer | 
Brazil Nickzim 
It's easy to outperform someone when you are not an IGL and missed the last events of the year.
2018-01-13 15:17
So its not device's fault that fallen was bad at the start of the year and has to igl. Yeah fallen won more but device had better stats which in top 20 rankings is more important. Thats why players like elige get #12 even if they dont win a single tournament but their stats are insane.
2018-01-13 15:25
#61
Hunter | 
Canada PyroOOF 
IGL does not play into the top 20 therefore is irrelevant.
2018-01-13 15:34
TACO should be ranked 1 because of tournament wins + his potential + he's entry its hard asf btw + because when cold was afk he won against him 16 0 (no proofs btw) xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
2018-01-13 15:16
#5
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United Kingdom HarryBotter 
Device hardly even played this year
2018-01-13 14:50
He had the same amount of attended big events as FalleN lmao
2018-01-13 14:52
#54
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United Kingdom HarryBotter 
He spent have the year in hospital in swear
2018-01-13 15:23
cry however much you want, but 103 maps is plenty enough to determine a rating... 137 is more yes, but FalleN was pretty bad at the beginning of the year, so he did that to himself. stop crying...
2018-01-13 14:50
#10
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Brazil fosterguy 
device, 2 titles this year, 0 mvps, inactive in a half of the year. Fallen, 8 titles this year, 2 mvps, played the entire year, its the igl
2018-01-13 15:00
#13
Hunter | 
Canada PyroOOF 
>Inactive for 2 months >"Half the year" Nice math.
2018-01-13 15:03
#19
AdreN | 
Georgia rezyyO 
LOL
2018-01-13 15:05
Titles dont mean shit, its a team effort, this is an idividual ranking MVPs do mean something but so do EVPS.. Dev1ce is higher rated than fallen in 2017.. (1.18 compared to fallen's 1.13) FalleN had 3 events below average rating which is BAD. dev1ce had ONE where that happened. Dev1ce was NOT inactive in the second half of the year, he was inactive in the last 2.5 months of it.. last time i checked, half of a year is 6 months. IGL doesnt mean anything when you talk about individual rankings. IF you are an IGL and that is bringing down your rating, then that is not the fault of the person making the ranking. IGL doesnt give you any additional performance points, yes its impressive that he is able to perform well while being an IGL, but that doesnt give any points to his performance.
2018-01-13 15:04
#22
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Portugal OzarK 
Titles dont mean shit lmao nice logic to if I have 4.00 Raating but I never won anything and only play ESEA league then Im on top 10 since winning top events is irreelvant
2018-01-13 15:08
#28
2018-01-13 15:10
#49
apEX | 
Brazil XEMBAO 
look elige lol, #12 and didnt achieve a single tournament
2018-01-13 15:20
#52
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Portugal OzarK 
Well that´s retarded they are basing ranking mostly based on players rating, while they forget that this players never went that far in tournaments therefore making sense their rating being better since they have less maps...
2018-01-13 15:21
#55
apEX | 
Brazil XEMBAO 
you just need big tournaments participations and high rating, thats it. btw good nick LUL
2018-01-13 15:23
#23
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Brazil fosterguy 
xantares 1.3 rating so xantares is better than coldzera and fallen #FanLogic
2018-01-13 15:09
yeah if you weren't so thick headed, you would know that XANTARES got that rating in small, meaningless lan tournaments. Dev1ce got his rating in the same prestigious tourneys that FALLEN played in, so nice try, but that is some very shit logic.
2018-01-13 15:10
#33
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Portugal OzarK 
Nope your logic is still shit, fallen played in more tournaments , not only that he won more titles on such tournaments, so according to your logic if xantares played all the tournaments that device played but meanwhile device since he played more maps his rating was lower but he won the events and while xantares exit the groupstage and had better rating because of less maps then xantares > device This is ur logic in a nutshell Astralis flair checks out mental illness
2018-01-13 15:12
Fallen played in more tournaments, but he has 30 more maps than dev1ce. 100 maps is more than enough to determine a consistent player.. FalleN winning more titles shows how well his TEAM played. If XANTARES played the same tournaments as dev1ce and got his 1.3 rating, then he would be on the top 20 list of HLTV. but he didn't he played some REALLY low tier lans against LOW TIER teams to get that rating.
2018-01-13 15:14
#40
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Portugal OzarK 
xd nigga you are legit braindead, u literally cant see how Bias your logic is, not even gonna argue further I can spot when someone has make up his mind by fueling with his bias
2018-01-13 15:15
How am I biased? I just showed you statistics, theres no bias to them...
2018-01-13 15:16
#44
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Portugal OzarK 
You are 100% bias, there is a reason why alot people are talking about how stupid the ranking is, people dont hate device is just that the rank is shit fallen deserves to be higher than device, he has more mvp, more longevity in tournaments , not only that he played more events... Geez
2018-01-13 15:17
#47
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Portugal OzarK 
Device has more KD rating because he didnt play as much maps in the events has fallen did....
2018-01-13 15:18
Ok here, let me try to explain WITHOUT bias then. I will use everything YOU claim in your paragraph. "he has more mvp" Yes, he has more MVPs, but they don't only look at MVPS. MVPS go to one of the EVPS on a team when they WIN a tournament. EVP = exceptionally valuable player. A player winning an event is a team achievement. It boosts your stats a little, but not a lot. As for EVPS, they count as big things too. FalleN got quite a few EVPS, but Dev1ce likely has an EVP in almost every event he played, because he was a major factor (he didn't get his 1.18 rating for nothing) for astralis. "more longevity in tournaments" I would disagree with that. Astralis as a team has played less events than SK. Dev1ce also missed 4 events that SK played (esl cologne, cs summit, pro league s6, blast pro series) even if a team averages 10 maps per tournament, that shows that AStralis' runs in tournaments were nearly the same as SK's throughout the whole year. You are forgetting that SK went out in groups 4 times this year = less maps played. "played more events" ok this is a valid argument, but that is like saying that just because they played for 2 more months total than dev1ce that they deserve to be ranked higher.. its about what you do when you are there. 100 maps is more than enough to determine placement in the top 20. there are many players that dont even have tha tmany maps. The teams Astralis SK and FaZe are the only teams where all their players all have played 100+ maps this year.
2018-01-13 15:24
#59
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Portugal OzarK 
hm nice logic , so how the fuck would you know how would device perform in that events he didnt play? lmao, you still missing the point that device has better rating because he played less events and map, u cant know how would device perform if he played, he pretty much got above fallen because he got sick if he didnt got sick then fallen would be above him.... lmao u legit cant see how dumb the ranking is???????????????
2018-01-13 15:27
#60
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Portugal OzarK 
you legit cant see that their are basing the rank on rating, but then they forget that device played less maps, h0ow is fair fallen to be ranked worse just because he played more maps therefore being harder to have better rating...device rating is literally the only thing he has better than fallen...
2018-01-13 15:28
Legit braindead
2018-01-13 15:38
#63
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Portugal OzarK 
"Niptop1era" calls me braindead
2018-01-13 15:40
Maybe you're just not understanding what I am saying..
2018-01-13 15:16
#50
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Brazil fosterguy 
boltz, rating 1.14 top 18 snax, rating 1.18 top 20. And snax played the same tournaments that boltz.
2018-01-13 15:21
#57
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Slovakia VladO.  
+1
2018-01-13 15:24
#8
s1mple | 
Poland Hell2k 
Why you cry?
2018-01-13 14:53
#9
shox | 
Turkmenistan POGGERS 
Cry is free
2018-01-13 14:54
The cry is free
2018-01-13 15:04
Agreed with the most said by OP.
2018-01-13 15:05
#20
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Brazil wnttl 
CRY
2018-01-13 15:05
#24
CeRq | 
Bulgaria RaiZiNhO 
damn
2018-01-13 15:09
#27
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Europe treyhard 
youre retarded but youre right in that thing
2018-01-13 15:10
#34
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Germany VeryLovelyGuy 
Im so sad for Fallen, he should be brazil's president
2018-01-13 15:12
You guys take this top 20 more serious than the players themselves
2018-01-13 15:14
FalleN top1 ofc, respect the captain #1
2018-01-13 15:17
#48
Portugal Hkt 
People at HLTV that complain at HLTV's rank, still think rank is about talent lmao.
2018-01-13 15:18
cry me a river
2018-01-13 15:22
#64
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United States BaguetteArmy 
Cry is free
2018-01-13 15:41
#65
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Estonia Chaostic 
Device went absent in december, he was still a top player this year Still being above fallen is total bs lol
2018-01-13 15:41
#66
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World TjaY02x 
look how many danish players in top20 its danish site what do u expect
2018-01-13 15:41
#67
fer | 
Argentina MAXEE|SDM 
Majors 2017 Device 1 Fallen 0
2018-01-13 15:42
mad poorzilian crying about fallen XDDDDDDDDD
2018-01-13 15:42
bump
2018-01-13 15:54
#71
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Denmark oskarsports 
Coldzera has only 20 more maps then Device If device would have played these 20 maps his rating would be even better cry is free
2018-01-13 15:56
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