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Device > FalleN?
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United Kingdom HarryBotter 
What a joke you take it to far this time HLTV. I feel that FalleN was top 5 material this year. Device is simply not better than FalleN.
2018-01-13 14:49
#1
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United Kingdom HarryBotter 
He hardly even played this year.
2018-01-13 14:50
XANTARES is going to be top 5...
2018-01-13 15:07
#34
shox | 
Turkmenistan POGGERS 
he still played 30 more maps than kennyS who got #7
2018-01-13 15:09
device: 1.18 rating, major champion fallen: 1.13 rating, not major champion
2018-01-13 17:31
#2
Dosia | 
Vietnam Oida 
Fallen transcends mere numbers in my opinion. Also HLTV ranking this year is fucked anyways... Elige top 20 LULULULULU.
2018-01-13 14:50
#3
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United Kingdom HarryBotter 
Lul. Adren underrated also
2018-01-13 14:51
Major MVP monster and K0Nfig who is only let down by his shit team below Elige... unreal
2018-01-13 14:51
#46
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Brazil imFroosTy 
+1
2018-01-13 15:36
Even as a astralis fan it doesnt make any sense Device is by far the worst player on their team and even missed some events FalleN won 8 big tournaments and was top 3 awp the whole year
2018-01-13 14:51
dev1ce had a higher overall rating in 2017, and he only had one event where he had below 1.00 rating.. FalleN had 3 events where that happened, and thanks to that poor play, SK bombed out in groups.
2018-01-13 15:01
If you watch astralis games you see how he holds them back each game. Always baitng on t side while other star players players like NiKo or s1mple try to get entries. On ct side only hunting full ecos with mp9 and saving his awp after missing 5 shots in important rounds
2018-01-13 15:05
#35
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United States J3nks 
2018-01-13 15:09
lmao doublelift you are the true meaning of a plastic fan, just talking out of your ass and you don't know a single thing about stats or actuality, you just got rekted
2018-01-13 15:19
Braindead guy believes everything he sees in hltv stats probably thinks xantares best player because highest rating aswell
2018-01-13 15:23
device is the worst player of the team? damn you really are retarded.
2018-01-13 15:45
Portugal
2018-01-13 17:19
what does my nationality has to do with anything we're talking about? retard
2018-01-13 17:25
he's german, makes sense
2018-01-13 17:27
Slovakia
2018-01-13 18:26
roflHLTV top
2018-01-13 14:51
Device who was fucking BOT 3/4 of the year is in top5 LUL xd
2018-01-13 14:52
FalleN 1.13 rating. dev1ce 1.18 rating Cry is free
2018-01-13 14:59
I don't know if it's free for you, but why you put rating while Device was skipping a lot events + a lot of games when he was 4-5 even in his own team... lol so by your "rating-logic" we can say XANTARES must be top1?
2018-01-13 15:00
he wasn't skipping a lot of events, he skipped one (esl cologne), and the other 2 premiers that he skipped were due to a sickness Dev1ce has 100 fucking big tournament maps played. xantares has almost none, dont even bring him into this.. Dev1ce rating: 1.18 and you are saying he is #5 or 4 in his own tteam? why do we not see dupreeh, xyp9x, gla1ve or kjaerybye at 1.20 rating?
2018-01-13 15:06
I don't care about the reasons of his skippings. He did it and he skip'd a lot matches because of that. He was good on the Major they won indeed, but it's A WHOLE YEAR RANKING. Can you think at least?
2018-01-13 15:07
can YOU think? ddev1ce has 100 maps played. that is more than MANY of the other players. It's almost double of s1mple and kennyS has 70 maps played.. Dev1ce has considerable more even when having to miss out on some tournaments because of his team's deep tournament runs. He was not only good on one event lol. you really need to look at his event performance.
2018-01-13 15:09
Dude he was terrible whole 2nd half of the year and Astralis did nothing. He was many times 3rd-4th-5th player even in his own team + he skip a lot in the 2nd half of the year. Considering all of these we can clearly say he is in top10, but out of top5 this year. It is my opinion and I already told you why I built it like that.
2018-01-13 15:18
#48
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Brazil imFroosTy 
+1
2018-01-13 15:37
device won a major
2018-01-13 14:52
where he wasnt even the mvp. fallen got more mvps than device ffs
2018-01-13 14:59
agree
2018-01-13 15:01
Astralis won a Major *
2018-01-13 15:01
#57
FalleN | 
Brazil gugao 
fallen wins 2 majors
2018-01-13 15:55
FalleN LAN rating 1.13 device LAN rating 1.18
2018-01-13 14:52
Of course fallen's rating is worse, device played less LAN tournaments due to his sickness, if he had played more tournaments, im pretty sure that his rating would be worse
2018-01-13 17:42
device IS better than FalleN lmao what are you talking about?
2018-01-13 14:53
> Germany > Logic Pick one
2018-01-13 15:06
nice flag nice player you are a fanboy of
2018-01-13 15:08
Thank you man but i am not thinking the same of you.
2018-01-13 15:17
You are for sure the most autistic member in this forum.
2018-01-13 17:29
hltv is a joke. it was the best year for dupreeh. He should be at least 5th. But in johnathanE’s opinion guardian who didnt pull the dick out of his mouth the whole year is better than dane
2018-01-13 14:57
Lol cause Jonathan E. makes the rankings, smart guy you are hahahahah
2018-01-13 14:59
I agree about washed-up guardian who did only decent things at the most end of the year. But you are wrong about Jonathan E., who is only HLTV moderator for posts/threads. He is not newsmaker.
2018-01-13 15:02
omg)) didnt expect i should explain that it was a joke about jonathan) when i call him i mean the whole site)
2018-01-13 15:05
I understood it, but it sounds weird for the most of people here. Cuz there were so many fails about HLTV staff... :D
2018-01-13 15:06
I honestly agree with you, dupreeh was a fucking beast, better than device. If he was above Fallen I could respect, but not device
2018-01-13 15:47
in 2017 overall.. yes. its interesting when fanboys purposely forget how bad fallen was at the beginning of the year especially in some events. he had 4 total events where he had RED impact which is BAD. Dev1ce only had ONE where that happened.
2018-01-13 14:58
then again device attended way less tournaments than fallen
2018-01-13 15:00
Cause 3 tournaments is WAY less omg please help me XDDD
2018-01-13 15:01
#38
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United States J3nks 
Then again: CS:Summit, Dreamhack Summer, ESG Mykonos. All of them mid-tier events where Astralis wasn't invited.
2018-01-13 15:13
Yeah, dropping cologne to save strats for the major to lose to Gambit is clearly better LUL
2018-01-13 15:49
the ranking is based more on individual stats rather than team achievements. This is why you see Elige #12 and devic > Fallen
2018-01-13 15:01
#37
s1mple | 
Belgium sach! 
kennyS has better stats
2018-01-13 15:13
Fallen is in 6th place, but worry not my friends, BADFALLEN will be ranked in first! BadFallen > cold, niko, device and kennys together, that while playing blindfolded and only using touchpad in a old notebook with windowed cs go resolution. BADFALLEN never takes his shades off as a way to help the others, as only a stare from badfallen will make then freeze in place and make things too Easy. Also, it is a way for his vision not be affected by all the glory light that emanates from him. 6th place, well deserved for the best team captain in the scene. :)
2018-01-13 15:17
your feelings > facts
2018-01-13 15:22
Device destroyed Fallen when they went head to head and had a better year in therm of individual performance
2018-01-13 15:35
#47
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Portugal dracø 
It's funny cuz when he got sick, both standins filled his shoes to perfection. Now take fallen away from sk and watch them fall apart. Xyp9x was astralis most important player this year, and he ranked so far below device.
2018-01-13 15:36
And that is sad...
2018-01-13 15:40
hltv.org/matches/2312394/astralis-vs-sk-.. never forget device was better this year, deal with it.
2018-01-13 15:44
#56
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Brazil thomas_lipsky 
FalleN is better than DEv1ce
2018-01-13 15:53
device>fallen.
2018-01-13 15:55
#64
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Ireland silverS2world 
playing in AWP's role, I consider device better than fallen. But fallen in my point of view, is a complete player.
2018-01-13 17:29
fallen>
2018-01-13 17:31
It feels like anyone who makes this type of thread forgets that FalleN was legitimately a below average player on his own team for the first few months of the year - meanwhile, dev1ce had already won a major by that point and was in hot contention to become MVP of it. FalleN has definitely outclassed dev1ce in the last half of the year, but the ranking takes the entire year into account.
2018-01-13 17:33
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