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s1mple destroyed NaVi
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Brazil IarentThinkThatz 
easiest the most overrated player to ever touch counter strike. he literally just keep his KD positive, NEVER plays for the tactical aspect of the team, just streamtype of play every single round. even if he gets 3k, he fucks 100% the map control of the team everytime, toxic, kills the team enviroment... navi kicked one of the best lan awpers in the history of CS (guardian) to keep this FPL player. s1mple clearly destroyed navi chemistry, is a shame to see such respected and amazing lineup getting ULTRA rekt 16-2 by chrisJ team LULULULULULUL 16-2 on lan just shows I'm right. #neverforget #freenavi #s1mpledestroyednavi #STREAMGOD #streamician #thecryisfree #justfacts
2018-01-13 18:17
#1
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Poland kolo_m23 
Most kids are casual noobs , they dont know about pro scene and hltv
2018-01-13 18:19
fanboy ofc had to come and say some shit!
2018-01-14 01:06
Shut up don, the other day I was trying to defend our Portuguese community because people are saying we are the most salty and the ones who insult most countries and you are showing them it is true Don’t be salty, be above them, ffs
2018-01-14 04:06
#224
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Canada Number1F1fan 
+123456789
2018-01-14 04:08
#278
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Russia Octans 
Same shit man
2018-01-15 02:58
#245
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Ukraine [magda1ena] 
sh1tple knows everything
2018-01-14 15:01
navi kicked one of the best lan awpers in the history of CS (guardian) to keep this FPL player. He fucking left the team, he didnt get kicked. He didnt have any motivation to play with this team
2018-01-13 18:19
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Poland wiktorex 
he was shit in navi lul,
2018-01-13 18:20
okay mr wiktor, you know it better :)
2018-01-13 18:21
#6
s1mple | 
Poland wiktorex 
hello? hello? wrong site ?
2018-01-13 18:21
#48
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Netherlands poeya 
Guardian was very good in NaVi idiot
2018-01-13 18:32
not in early 2017
2018-01-13 18:41
he sucked whole 2016 too
2018-01-13 19:12
cuz join ukraine krysa with name SH1Tple lul xaxaxa
2018-01-13 19:31
cuz he joined your mom and didn't enjoy too much lul xaxaxa
2018-01-13 19:36
hmmmmm...i cummmiiiiing in your mom pussy sooo am your father sooo stfu son..u are my biggest fail lul xaxaxa ukraine/subhuman isnt real country..
2018-01-13 19:39
#154
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Ukraine b1azed 
REPORTED
2018-01-13 21:44
who care about ukraine report ??? :D:D:D:D xaxaxaxa
2018-01-13 22:25
btw nice 16/2 navi :D:D:D:D:D
2018-01-13 22:26
#158
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Ukraine LeenReex 
reported btw
2018-01-13 22:20
who care about ukraine report ??? :D:D:D:D xaxaxaxa
2018-01-13 22:25
btw nice 16/2 navi :D:D:D:D:D
2018-01-13 22:26
#166
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Ukraine LeenReex 
navi is shit till they wont kick zeus, edward and kane so i dont care
2018-01-13 22:40
fan of navi xaxaxa
2018-01-13 22:42
#172
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Ukraine LeenReex 
fan of .. oh wait russia dont have scene lul
2018-01-13 22:44
yea xaxaxa
2018-01-13 22:49
#229
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Ukraine b1azed 
ajaahhAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHHAAHHHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHHAAHAHAHHAAHHAHAAHHAHHAHHHHAAHHHAH
2018-01-14 11:00
#202
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Germany SheykY_Y 
Btw till after Columbus he was a clear top 5 player and the best awper in the world. Guess what happened around that time? yes, his injury couple moths after the injury s1mple joined
2018-01-14 02:07
#227
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Ukraine [magda1ena] 
Flarich nichtozhestvo
2018-01-14 04:23
oh right, guardian is a textbook cs player, do whatever the team needs, know how to take map control, how to play based on the map control of his teamates etc s1mple toxic, team vibe killer, made guardian play bad and want to leave, look guardian at faze now LUL tell me one guy who complained about guardian in history. now look how many teams s1mple destroyed LMAO
2018-01-13 18:20
#15
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Jordan 4smiler 
The thing is, NaVi with Guardian would never lose 16:2 to mousesports. Even against better teams they were able to put atleast 8-9 rounds.
2018-01-13 18:24
+1 I agree 100% they would win some rounds just by playing smart
2018-01-13 18:29
#110
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World DopphMe0w 
cya 16-2 vs LG columbus nice facts dude
2018-01-13 18:53
#176
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Bulgaria valeriaf0x 
'"The thing is, NaVi with Guardian would never lose 16:2 to mousesports. Even against better teams they were able to put atleast 8-9 rounds." youtu.be/do47ExeCgyM?t=2026 nah they woulnt nah no way you're retarded
2018-01-13 22:58
#180
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Jordan 4smiler 
the point is, no matter how much you try. There's always someone, that will tryhard so bad just to find one or two matches to prove you wrong. However, I know what I saw from NaVi in last four years. I don't even bother giving you any links cos you are clearly a newfag who didn't even remember old times when there was no s1mple, but Zeus and all those games when NaVi was able to put atleast 9 rounds no matter the opponent.
2018-01-14 00:14
#183
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Bulgaria valeriaf0x 
yes and in the navi without s1mple, they had actual players, not just electronic and s1mple like today. They had flamie, they had Edward, they had seized. Now they don't. I mean they do. But they struggle to exist.
2018-01-14 00:24
Please show me 2 clips of him raging where you wouldn't in the mousesports match
2018-01-13 18:42
you realize that teams practice a long time everyday before tournments? LUL guardian and s1mple talking about it just prove that s1mple killed the teams chemistry cuz the same core played for years without any problem, s1mple joined, guardian become shit, and leave the team OMG WHAT COULD BE THE PROBLEM? I GUESS GUARDIAN JUST LACK MOTIVATION EH EH oh shit, he just joined faze and become instant top2 in the world =x
2018-01-13 18:44
watch the reflections he did with Thorin in which he said he didn't go on the bootcamo with them didn't have any problem with s1mple, but didn't have the motivation with NAVI
2018-01-13 18:46
why are you so mad monkey? XD go to the zoo plz and cry there s1mple is the most skilled player to ever touch csgo
2018-01-13 18:59
I'm not mad lol just putting facts here, healthy discussion :> you are mad af, being racist LMAOO
2018-01-13 20:38
#230
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World neomax360 
2018-01-14 11:05
GuardiaN is the best awper in the world for me. Although he wasnt doing well in navi all he needed was motivation to push him from behind,so NAVI helped him by kicking from the team
2018-01-13 18:27
+1 I agree 100% guardian is exacly the mix of fallen and kennys he is more skilled than fallen, but he is 100x smarter than kennys
2018-01-13 18:30
#77
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Slovakia TrYx_ 
GuardiaN is very good but for me FalleN is better
2018-01-13 18:40
cer is top awper you idiot
2018-01-14 02:19
ive never heard any awper named cer.
2018-01-14 08:27
#50
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Austria dinomen 
will you have any motivation to play with a toxic in ur team?
2018-01-13 18:32
actually hes kicked from the team s1mple voted on him
2018-01-13 18:35
prove it or bs
2018-01-13 18:49
i have a screenshot of his tweet mad about s1mple voted on him
2018-01-13 18:55
He said "Simple answer to question why me, is because i couldnt find the way to play in this team anymore after we kicked zeus in the wrong way :)" "Good luck @natusvincere , the next time we meet in a game will be as enemies!" but he deleted the first one after while
2018-01-13 19:00
nice screenshot
2018-01-13 19:58
? i said i have a screenshot not about posting it read again kid
2018-01-13 20:05
are you a fake flagger? and are you 10? cus you obviously didnt understand the joke...
2018-01-14 14:48
if that meant to be a joke youre not good at it.
2018-01-14 14:54
kek, definitely a fake flagger. no wonder you didnt understand. (are you eastern european, more often than not they dont understand sarcasm?)
2018-01-14 14:55
i have never been to europe keep guessing wrong
2018-01-14 14:56
oh then just a standard idiot. i dont really care where youre from since, in most cases,it has little effect on your intelligence.
2018-01-14 14:58
im not rly trying to tell you where im from sorry u should go see doc
2018-01-14 14:59
are you sure youre not a fake flagger??? you have a tenuous grasp on the english language.
2018-01-14 15:00
i arent think so
2018-01-14 15:03
Th ebest thing ever happend t oguardian was that he left NaVi. Because they were all soo bad. All from them just are BOTs. without guardian we wouldnt even know that there is NaVi. they would have been some T6 team or so. He always carried them. And he sucked in 2017? Well i agree. And he lost motivation? I agree. But realize that when you play for your whole career with nubs which cant perform well on lan then what can you do.
2018-01-14 18:08
#7
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Canada hypsipyle 
i totally agree there was a video titled simple the destroyer of the worlds i think simple the destroyer of the teams will fit better :D toxic kid who has no idea about teamplay (the most overrated , selfish player ever)
2018-01-13 18:22
+1 just facts. and people compare this streamer to rain, fer, cold, niko, device LUL he is the exacly meaning of "all aim no brain"
2018-01-13 18:22
#225
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Canada Number1F1fan 
s1mple didn't destroy the team the coaching rule did before the rule NaVi used Starix as a sort of igl so they decicded to upgrade a player since Zeus is worse than s1mple and decided to have starix as igl then when the rule came around NaVi was fucked
2018-01-14 04:09
#8
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Germany uRaguuu 
even if simple would be the best team player in the world this doenst make his teammates aim not better (flamie pistol hahaha Xd) (zeus 3!!!!! frags HAAAAAAHAAA)))
2018-01-13 18:22
it doenst matter even if s1mple gets 3k in the round, he kills the map control of the team lol how da fuck would you have a hole in your map control, and want to win against t1 teams
2018-01-13 18:23
dude just look what they are doing they are just doing a couple of contact plays and they are actually braindead example: flamie gets a frag on a to get back the 4v4 but then he decides to go out for a second frag while his teammates are all topmid instead of just waiting a bit
2018-01-13 18:31
but it doesnt matter why you want flamie to play ultra slow and collected if s1mple is picking everywhere or baiting LUL the thing is, s1mple can be a superstar and look very explosive against shit teams, but he gets punished everytime against t1 teams since 2015 lmao the difference about him and other pugstars is that, the pugstars learn with time, how to play in this type of enviroment. s1mple doesnt LUL
2018-01-13 18:35
because S1mple is one of the best players in the world, the star player and incredible in that kind of situation LMAO
2018-01-13 18:44
The only player with positive K/D after 2-16 loss... :) nuff said. He is the best.
2018-01-13 18:23
low-impact frags against mouz though
2018-01-13 18:26
low-impact by your biased / hate opinion only.
2018-01-13 18:26
lmao I don't hate s1mple. sad argument. I think s1mple is extremely talented, but that doesn't change the fact that he had low-impact frags against mouz. are you incapable of further analysis than looking at a scoreboard?
2018-01-13 18:28
" non impact frags" = "sad argument" too.
2018-01-13 18:28
??? do you know what impact means? he had one (1) entry frag in the entire game, he had an HLTV impact rating well below the average. jesus christ, get s1mple's dick out of your mouth and try to understand that even a top 10 player can have a mediocre game
2018-01-13 18:31
17-15 in a game which his team lost 2-16 isn't that mediocore. and stop your fantasies with dicks pls xddd
2018-01-13 18:37
fuck you're so fucking stupid, holy shit. you're only looking at the K/D like a child who just learned to recognize numbers. he had LOW IMPACT FRAGS
2018-01-13 18:39
#31
2018-01-13 18:39
#122
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Netherlands MerpNL 
ukrane people have no brain LUL simple is the most talented player imo, but he is just a fragger and cant play in teamform. he fucks it up even tho he get 2-3 kills per round
2018-01-13 18:59
+1
2018-01-14 15:30
#62
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Austria dinomen 
so lets see, 2 kills on short from a when his team already took b site, this was on 2 different rounds, so -2 kills, then goes again lurking behind from a to get 2 more kills on a 1v3 and loses the clutch so yeah again not impactful kills, so we have-4 kills so far, jumps mid like a retardo like 2-3 rounds and gets rekt by oskar, yup very tactical plays...
2018-01-13 18:36
great analysis (nope)
2018-01-13 18:38
#32
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Brazil IguiN 
Cold/Niko would get 3 times more frags and destroy mouz ezpz
2018-01-13 18:28
not in Na`Vi
2018-01-13 18:29
well he won two rounds by himself , destroyed the ecomony during the first antieco after the pistol to make it to a 1v1 that they even were able to win the following round and got the first two kills on their ct pistol you really cant blame it on him zeus is just a horrible igl and a bad player flamie is breaindead edward is washed up and electronic is still new to this level
2018-01-13 18:34
lmao what? in round 3 he traded flamie after flamie had opened up the A site, then he had one more frag after Zeus with a great flank had given them a 3v2 afterplant with one mouz player on low HP. Didn't win them that round, din't even make one of the two key frags that actually DID win them the round in the second round that Na'Vi won he made two frags in a 3v2 situation where both mouz players where on the wrong site, a round that Na'Vi likely would've won anyway so yeah those two kills he got on the anti-eco on his long retarded flank in the round that Na'Vi lost and his CT pistol entry where probably his highlights of the game. wow such insane impact I'm not in any way blaming this loss on s1mple, the rest of Na'Vi where undeniably worse than him, I'm just pointing out the facts
2018-01-13 18:53
+1 finally someone who understands cs the amount of rounds that s1mple wins by himself is a lot lower than the amount of rounds he loses doing stupid plays trying to be flashy
2018-01-14 02:25
You don't know what impact means.
2018-01-13 18:47
#27
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Brazil IguiN 
You are retard, no doubt.
2018-01-13 18:27
thank you. stay calm.
2018-01-13 18:28
sorry wrong reply
2018-01-13 18:33
agree
2018-01-13 18:23
true
2018-01-13 18:24
#14
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Netherlands Klitaris 
s1mple is a good player but he can clearly not play in a team.
2018-01-13 18:24
soooo.. hes not a good player :> u cant be a good player and cant play in a team :) u should choose 1 ;)
2018-01-14 02:27
#16
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Egypt Tywin 
-Zeus +Ange1 -Flamie +Adren -Edward +Hobbit T1 confirmed.
2018-01-13 18:24
#57
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United Kingdom galaxzy 
Nah Gambit r better dont touch their players and just -fitch and +zeus
2018-01-13 18:35
#126
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Egypt Tywin 
-fitch +Ange1 Zeus is overrated, money hungry two face
2018-01-13 19:03
#149
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United Kingdom galaxzy 
Hes two faced but he reshaped Gambit into a major winning team. ( say fluke major all you can they beat astralis with ease and that was an achievement in itself)
2018-01-13 20:33
#226
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Canada Number1F1fan 
they beat astralis yes but I wouldnt say it was with ease
2018-01-14 04:14
#17
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
I disagree entirely... You are solely blaming S1mple for all of Na'Vi losing a game here... That is disrespectful and mean. Someone who achieves Top 10 is 2017 is far from overrated, as he has the numbers to back up his skill. Being one of the most individually skilled players in the world right now, I'd say he's improving Na'Vi by being the start player they need. There is no need for such dumbfounded disdain, friend. I will always respect your opinion, but Na'Vi themselves are to blame for the loss, not just S1mple. Have a good day.
2018-01-13 18:25
who needs to go then? Edward? Zeus?
2018-01-13 18:29
no one needs to go because of 1 match bo1 in groups.
2018-01-13 18:31
delusional LUL
2018-01-13 18:33
The way they played yesterday and today shows that they wont beat anyone in groupstage and will struggle to even get out of prelims
2018-01-13 18:35
#148
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
No-one... They lost one game because they tilted and have won five games on the trot before then. People are overrated a simple matter because of one loss, yet the tournament isn't even over yet. People don't think properly, yet always accuse straight off the bat. Reality is BO1's will be lost and won, there is no need to throw tantrums because you lost money. HLTV is obviously illogical and not a lot of people actually know what they're talking about, but it's still painful to see sometimes. Have a good day.
2018-01-13 20:16
Well, i partially agree.. I guess the criticism here is that a team that before s1mple was a superstar team (guardian flamie edward and even seized were gods - when LG was becoming good and fnatic bad), and then s1mple comes in and suddenly he is the only good player.. All the others dropped performance drastically.. Every team s1mple is in, he's the only good player, but after he leaves the team gets better as a whole.. I guess the only exception was liquid, but he didnt play with them time enough, they were on the "honey moon" phase and he left right after it Hope u understand, my english is kinda rusty ;s
2018-01-14 02:35
#222
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
I think your post is really good. :) I'm glad you understand my point, so thank you. Your English is also fine, fear not. :D Have a good day. ^^
2018-01-14 03:50
AGREEEEEEE +1
2018-01-13 18:25
#19
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Europe Pl4yed 
It's strange how navi were a solid top5 for all their time together since 2014 and somehow when they made a change that was supposed to make them major winners, they end up so bad... Hard to put a finger on their problems but I think their style just isn't working with someone like s1mple in the team and they are unable to adjust properly. I think s1mple in a team like FaZe would be beasting without the team suffering...
2018-01-13 18:26
they kicked their IGL, valve made coaching rule (disable starix), they kicked coach. that's are the reasons of their fall.
2018-01-13 18:30
not really. watch the fucking game. s1mple bait a lot, and dont play for the team, he makes a hole in the team map control all the fucking time, the way he plays, only works when he gets 3k or 4k if he gets 1 kill and dies, or just dies, navi is 100% fucked.
2018-01-13 18:33
0 game knowledge
2018-01-13 18:36
I agree, s1mple 10000 skill but 0 game knowledge xd
2018-01-13 18:38
I mean you.
2018-01-13 18:38
#69
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Austria dinomen 
yeah its what simple has, 0 game knowledge and goes for lurking and letting his team die, he is almost always the last player alive, why is that?
2018-01-13 18:38
you are for sure better than S1mple. you just have more experience and you would do better in his situation withoiut any doubt. -s1mple +dinomen
2018-01-13 18:39
#78
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Austria dinomen 
you are complete retard and blind fanboy! keep sucking his dick
2018-01-13 18:40
you are complete retard and blind hater! keep sucking VPs dick
2018-01-13 18:41
#21
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Sri Lanka ezfaze 
true #S1mpleDestroyNaVi
2018-01-13 18:26
+1
2018-01-13 18:32
#52
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Finland Arv1 
faze fan xaxax
2018-01-13 18:33
Da fuq flag is this
2018-01-14 01:05
#23
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Hungary StraYzie 
+11111111111111111111111111
2018-01-13 18:26
+1000000000000000000000000000000
2018-01-13 18:27
Bringing Zeus back was stupid af. He was successful on gambit cuz Adren & Hobbit duo. They should pick ANGE1, who can lead and frag successfully in the same time
2018-01-13 18:27
They became much better team with Zeus than they were with seized. They already won some events, maybe stop judging everything by 1 group-stage bo1 match?
2018-01-13 18:29
#81
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Slovakia TrYx_ 
wow they won one event,but tier2
2018-01-13 18:41
+1 now that guardian is gone, the only option for navi is kick the textbook cs players and bring loose af frag hunters like s1mple, and do a loose team.
2018-01-13 18:32
#109
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Austria dinomen 
they tried for angel but too expensive, bringing simple and kicking zeus at first was the stupidest idea starting with
2018-01-13 18:53
It was the smartest idea for that time, I can explain it so even you could inderstand: -Zeus was no IGL at that time, he was just bad support player with low stats -Starix was coach-IGL who was talking during the game and they played under his system -Na`Vi see S1mple as the super-star carry who brought Liquid to top2 and top3 of 2 Majors. -By the logic of Zeus' being useless they kick him and bring S1mple, and they thought Starix will IGLing those 5 fraggers -but suddenly Valve fucked them when they put new rule, which didn't allows Starix (or other coaches) to talk during the game like it was before -Na`Vi got fucked by that. but it doesn't mean they made bad decision, they just can't expect the future, they are not extrasenses.... ;D
2018-01-13 19:09
U dont say bandera
2018-01-13 19:25
thx my toilet cleaner
2018-01-13 19:35
hating retards are spreading panic as alwatys. :) gl next matches Na`Vi
2018-01-13 18:29
this isnt hate where do I """hate""" anyone here? LMAO just facts. if you cant argument against FACTS, keep on your delusional fanboi imaginary world :>
2018-01-13 18:31
#38
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Poland Hell2k 
S1mple>Fer
2018-01-13 18:30
yeah, we can see by acomplishments :> everytime bo3 fer against s1mple = s1mple getting bullied LUL doesnt matter the lineup xD
2018-01-13 18:30
#55
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United Kingdom knowlezy 
So simple is to blame for Edward and Zeus having a terrible performance? Yes Simple was a bad team player but a lot has changed over the past few years and anyone with any knowledge about the game itself can clearly see Simple is a great player and is the only reason Na'vi are competing in majors. Zeus is a great IGL but that's about it, Edward is a basic support player at best. Simple isn't to blame for the teams performance whatsoever and the fact that you think he is is honestly fucking retarded.
2018-01-13 18:34
theres not the point explain me how taco is at edwards level and SK is the most consistent team of 2016 and 2017 with him lol 2018 you need to play for the team, s1mple game plan is: he gets 4k and win the round. thats it. theres nothing outside this xD so when he gets 4k "OMG s1mpleGOD top 1" but when he overpeek and die, his team is fucked also he is everywhere in the map, he gets all the space in the team... it can work against t2 t3 teams but against top teams navi will get smashed EVERY time
2018-01-13 18:41
#103
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United Kingdom knowlezy 
Are you being genuinely serious? SK have Fallen, Cold, Boltz and Fer and have a great team chemistry because they've had a steady roster for a few years now, Na'vi have Edward, Zeus, Flamie and Electronic, they've had multiple roster changes and more than half their team are past their prime. You're literally blaming simple for everyone else's individual performance.
2018-01-13 18:50
interesting without electronic they were locked top3 in 2016 =T look mouz now, c9, nip... lol felps joined SK, played like s1mple, with SK giving him 100% freedom. result: felps insane, dropping 30 everymap etc but SK out of groups felps adapted to the team, started playing in a tactical way, for the team, stats lowered, around 15 20 every map but SK won 5 titles think about it a little bit... s1mple is amazing at skill, but he is too dumb to be put against top teams, he gets punished everytime lol
2018-01-13 20:41
+1
2018-01-14 02:42
Not realizing that players influence each other is honestly fucking retarded.
2018-01-13 18:45
#106
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United Kingdom knowlezy 
Yes I'm sure Simple is to blame for Zeus and Edwards horrible individual performance, stfu and gain a little knowledge about the game first before you go commenting.
2018-01-13 18:52
What knowledge should I gain? Enlighten me, tell me how is it possible that someone can't affect the way his teammates play, I have dozens of examples of how he can, but let's hear your version first.
2018-01-13 18:55
#127
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United Kingdom knowlezy 
As I said before, you're blaming simple for players individual performance. Na'vi have two great players (simple and electronic), Edward and Zeus are both past their primes and Flamie is a decent player at best. Before simple Na'vi were still struggling in tournaments but everyone wants to jump on this bandwagon of hate on simple because of his past. Simple isn't to blame for anything, he is the reason Na'vi are able to play in these tournaments. Both Edward and Zeus are HIGHLY experienced players, they should be able to adapt to any situation but they cant because like I said they are past their primes.
2018-01-13 19:03
That's just clearly your opinion. Guardian seemed to be out of his prime, as everybody were saying before he left navi, calling him fatian etc. Now he's shining in faze. Navi losing after simple joining is a fact, whether it was caused entirely by him or by other factors is unknown, but he definitely didn't make them better, which was what everybody expected and which is what great players MUST do. btw. You still haven't provided me with anything about how is it possible that players don't affect each other in the game. But I understand you, it might seem logical that it's just about shooting, fragging, getting kills and if a person doesn't get enough frags it's just because he can't deliver enough of a mechanical abilities. If YOU would ever have played this game on a certain level, it could made it possible for you, to understand csgo as a team game, so then you could develop entirely different point of view.
2018-01-13 19:10
#132
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United Kingdom knowlezy 
At no point did I say fragging is what makes a team great, you're just jumping to conclusion. You're ignoring that fact that I said Na'vi were still preforming badly before simple. Explain to me how electronic is still able to preform and flamie is still able to be a decent support player but yet Edward and Zeus who have been apart of cs since the beginning are preforming badly yet their the players with the most experience. Zeus as the IGL should be able to adapt to Simple's play style and so should Edward but they can't. If you watch SK you can see that Fallen lets Cold and Fer play how they want to play and look how well SK are doing. Yes getting kills isn't everything and team play is one of the most important things but when you have two players who genuinely can't preform individually then clearly its their problem not Simple's.
2018-01-13 19:25
There is simple explanation. It's rare to have everybody performing well. You don't get 5 1.10 players in a team and expect every one of them to maintain that rating. After Fifflaren left nip xizt and friberg weren't the same, actually from being like top10 players they turned into top50 or even top100 players. Maybe Zeus and Edward playing badly is the reason of adapting to simple's playstyle. Haven't it occurred to you? Getting simple into a team imposed changes on them, what eventually caused their performances to diminish.
2018-01-13 19:29
#140
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United Kingdom knowlezy 
Again for the 2nd Na'vi's performance was still bad before simple. Both Zeus and Edward haven't been preforming well for a long time now, even before simple.
2018-01-13 19:38
It was much better than what it is right now. Moreover, simple is considered to be a player of a huge caliber. Such players should make team better, not worse. Zeus delivered in Gambit, so I have no idea how you can consider him as a problem.
2018-01-13 19:55
#164
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United Kingdom knowlezy 
Zeus as an IGL should have full control of the team and pushing out different strats but hes not. Edward is way to passive, seems to do nothing whatsoever for the team.
2018-01-13 22:30
I dont think Zeus is either smart of good player. People overrated him after major win, but this is what they tend to do. That just proves that they don't have any clue what they're talking about.
2018-01-13 22:40
#177
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United Kingdom knowlezy 
He is overrated as an IGL, couldn't agree more on that but from his many years of cs he should be preforming better and be able to adapt to changes in his team easily, same goes for Edward.
2018-01-13 23:18
omg couldn't agree more there are lots and lots of examples of players dropping performances because of another players... fifflaren leaving nip as u said, -fnx + fox on SK -> fallen dropped a lot his performances +felps -> fallen dropped again Is because fallen is a bad player ?? No, its because he is a teamplayer, when the whole isnt working his game drops, cuz he sacrifice himself for the team.. after guardian left navi his game improved 100%, so did zeus on gambit.. Its worth remembering all 4 navi players (flamie, seized guardian and edward were always considered gods before s1mple, after him all of them dropped and looked like bots - and zeus was a "good" player )
2018-01-14 02:52
Thanks for reading my posts. Another great example of that would be rain, now people write rainGOD and other shit, but he wasn't as good as he's now. As a matter of fact he's gonna be top4 this year and it'll be the first time he'll be in this ranking. It happened after roster changes which also made faze a better team. Although, it doesn't always take a roster change to influence player. Take a look at snax, he took the igl role and also became much worse player. So it's not like someone plays at this level and he's gonna maintain it despite the circumstances.
2018-01-15 02:46
+1 rain wasnt even close to what he is right now i always say a player that can consistently perform while his team sucks usually is a "bad" player.. Most of his kills are probably low impact and he probably will be overrated by community. Every team player drops performance when the system in his team doesnt work.. If u can perform while ur team sucks, it means u dont need ur team to play, so u'r not a teamplayer.. Cs nowadays cant be played without ur team.. imo today cs is way more tactics than skills, so there is no room for selfish and individualist players
2018-01-15 02:55
Navi is just in shambles. Nothing can fix it
2018-01-13 18:36
"Thanks for GuardiaN" -Every FaZe fan alive
2018-01-13 18:38
Reminds me of a certain Brazilian. Beginning with C.
2018-01-13 18:38
cogu?
2018-01-14 01:20
Funny guy, are ya?
2018-01-14 01:59
oy :D
2018-01-14 02:01
#67
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France StickyRice 
Still idiots to believe that s1mple is still toxic in 2018 (he is probably not more toxic than the average pro player as of now, in my opinion) he keeps carrying awful players like he has been doing for years, he needs to be selfish and think for himself (not for NaVi that is awful anyway) and GO TO FaZe to help FaZe struggling a bit lately and maybe help the team be competitive vs SK finally.
2018-01-13 18:38
dude s1mple is just braindead lol karrigan would never put him in faze teams like faze, old fnatic, are pug af but still know how to play man advantage situations etc
2018-01-13 18:39
#70
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Lithuania IamU 
Lol dude, you have no idea what you're talking about lmao
2018-01-13 18:38
ok, explain me with arguments where I'm wrong, and teach me how things work =)
2018-01-13 18:41
#89
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Lithuania IamU 
SO ok, so let's say s1mple get 3k in mid. You say that he fks over the team and they get no map control, but it's actually pretty opposite, s1mple fks them in the ass, he gets mid control alone, which is pretty fking amazing, and the rest of the team can go and take other parts of the map, or maybe do a split a or b execute. I don't see how that is wrong. Pretty much expected from a monkey to not know these things
2018-01-13 18:44
I agree 100% if s1mple gets 3k he literally wins the round. but this is inconsistent af lol hes been doing this since 2015, and its always the same thing: against t2 teams he can get a very explosive series, looks amazing etc but when he face the top teams on semis, finals, he goes negative rating and fucks the team over because top teams know how to punish playres like him. so after he gets shut down, navi have no plan B to fall back on LUL then they get REKT put here a big stage bo3 win of s1mple going ham, against a top team. against SK for example: hltv.org/matches/2306295/sk-vs-natus-vin..
2018-01-13 18:46
#105
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Lithuania IamU 
That matchup doesn't really count. It was a delusional lineup that couldn't do things. They couldn't actually capitalize from it. This lineup, they can do way more with this fragging power of s1mple/electronic/flamie. Let's be real here, s1mple was the most valuable player from the match with his fragging abilities and map control/pressure. You said that best teams counter the tactic of s1mple, I dont think so: hltv.org/matches/2314047/faze-vs-natus-v.. hltv.org/matches/2314054/natus-vincere-v.. hltv.org/matches/2313987/g2-vs-natus-vin.. And way more, just too lazy to copy them all
2018-01-13 18:51
oh right a important bo3 with s1mple bottomfragguing is irrelevant but bo1s are very relevant LMAOOO show me a bo3 important lan serie that s1mple went ham on more than 1 maps against a top team you cant. cuz arent happen. too ez. #thecryisfree #s1mpleoverated
2018-01-13 20:39
#153
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Lithuania IamU 
hltv.org/matches/2314495/natus-vincere-v.. hltv.org/matches/2313900/astralis-vs-nat.. hltv.org/matches/2312159/natus-vincere-v.. hltv.org/matches/2309432/natus-vincere-v.. in all of the matches he was the best player in his team, most valuable most monkeys are ignorant, so i'm not suprised
2018-01-13 21:41
1 match - perfect example of what I'm saying, he has good stats but take over the space of the team and the team has no chance of winning. 2 match - same as 1 3 match - legit, this time worked, but against another pug team, when the whole team were hitting shots, so this one is legit. 4 match - same thing so lets analyse the facts here, I never said s1mple was shit, I'm just saying he is overated when compared to the top players. you could find one bo3 when navi won and he was top fragguing. look how many fucking bo3s navi played this whole time LOL and a key thing, even when navi gets ultra smashed he has good stats, interesting. same goes with happy when envy was shit and they had kennys, happy one of the best rating players for the time, but navi was tier3. same with felps when he joined SK, mad stats, better stats than cold, but SK didnt even get out of groups. you see? take the blinders off for a sec, s1mple destroyed navi.
2018-01-13 22:15
#178
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Lithuania IamU 
check their other bo3s, s1mple was the most valuable player in most of them. I only linked the ones that were played against g2/astralis. Gettings frags means you're messing with the other team mentally/getting map control alone(which is very good). Give me a reason why he ruined navi and then we'll have a fair debate, now all I'm seeing is that you're saying if you get lots of kills, that means you're a bad teammate, that's just nonsense. I really didnt think that brazilians can be as stupid as you are, it's just mindblowing
2018-01-13 23:54
felps joined SK, sk gave him freedom he did what s1mple is doing, exacly what u said... he carry in terms of frag and impact but sk was tier2... felps adapted, fragged last kills, but SK won 5 tounrments if you cant understand what I'm saying here, you just dont understand how cs works lol we are in 2018, he clearly wont carry navi alone, if he known how to play in a team system, navi would get far in tournments, but nah, he is too dumb for that. he still in 2018 playing for himself :> thats why navi is trash they just got 16 2 by mouz =p
2018-01-14 00:07
#181
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Lithuania IamU 
Wtf are you talking about? Why do you think that he doesn't play with a team? Na'vi have been open about this and they said that S1mple is a great teammate. It's not all about s1mple remember that, the whole team has to do things, not him alone. God you're dumb
2018-01-14 00:15
because I watch navi games he overpeeks too much, gives away man advantage, delivery eco rounds to the other teams,baits when he needs, etc the team can be shit, but he is not helping them at all lol navi on their worst era with zeus + guardian was 100000000x better than this new navi lol when guardian and flamie were bad, they still could make at least 10 rounds, by playing slow map control style now they are garbage 16-2 LMAO a simple way of put this: cs is 5x5, on the 2018 meta, fast trades etc, is a key thing every player play for the other teammates s1mple plays for himself. result: explosive, godlike performance against bad teams, get stomped by top teams, and now gets stomped even by t2 teams lol is not me saying, is just the results dude lol if you cant see this, you are a delusional fanboi =p
2018-01-14 00:19
#184
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Lithuania IamU 
you wanna say that he overpeeks at times, but he STILL gets most frags in his teams, so I don't really get your logic. How about you give me about four times in one match that s1mple baits. You just don't see it. That doesn't happen with him. I mean it's actually quite honestly such a mindblowing thing to see a guy as dumb as you, not even joking, it's actually weird. I thought that chernobyl was where the retards are made, looks like it's actually brazil :/
2018-01-14 00:39
when you started watching cs? and when you start playing cs? I'm not being a dick, genuine question
2018-01-14 00:45
#187
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Lithuania IamU 
That's pretty weird that you got no arguments, you're you start to talk nonsense lol? Oh well, argument won, feels good. Pls never chat about cs ever again. You know absolutely nothing...
2018-01-14 00:59
because you are clearly new to the scene if you were watching happy for example, on envyus, you would understand what I'm talking about lol but ok then, keep living in your delusional imaginary world when s1mple is a top player LMAOO good for you, salute!!
2018-01-14 01:00
#192
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Lithuania IamU 
I am following CS scene since 2016, so I know an average amount. But you seem to be pretty retarded to not understand when a player is actually valuable. Oh well, what can I expect from brazilian or a monkey as everyone says.
2018-01-14 01:01
oh right tell me why s1mple play since ever and only won 1 expressive title in his whole carrer and the other top players all have many victorys etc lol come on, lets see your arguments :> too ez against racist delusional fanboi of streamer LMAOO started following cs in 2016 LULULULULUL
2018-01-14 01:04
#198
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Lithuania IamU 
Well, liquid was alright with him, got 2nd place at a major, went into semifinals in another one. So that wasn't a blow. Na'Vi got fked cuz of the coaching rule that Valve has put out. But you're pretty new to the game, so I don't suppose you know what the coaching rule did/or what it is
2018-01-14 01:19
oh right, so by 2 runs in his whole carrer he should be compared to the top players LMAO the coach rule os many igl's that played with s1mple never influenced him to play safer etc the context of the meta on those liquid runs were 100% different than nowdays on the other hand s1mple was new to the top level, fighting for top1 at tier1 events etc. the real problem is that, we are in 2018 and he still playing the same way, he never learned how to play against t1 teams. as you can see the stats on bo3 series against top teams shows I'm right =D and the first cs I played was 1.5 =) nt
2018-01-14 02:15
#233
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Lithuania IamU 
Dude what are you talking about? He's a beast against t1 players in bo1. I just linked you the postmatch results. God you're delusional. "oh right, so by 2 runs in his whole carrer he should be compared to the top players LMAO" It was two majors! Two fking majors. That's not nothing. He dominated in there. And he still did amazing at other tournaments. He doesn't have a tournament rating below 1 that's how good he is. God you're dumb..
2018-01-14 14:01
bo1, or groupstage at maximum my point is, he choke every single time on bo3 on big stages against top teams, so he is overated when people compare him to cold, device etc thats my point.
2018-01-14 17:43
#268
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Lithuania IamU 
No lol, he's absolutely amazing against top teams in bo3s. That's why he's an amazing player. I just linked you a bunch of bo3 matches against G2/astralis where s1mple was a beast. I don't understand how you can be so dumb...
2018-01-14 18:31
#73
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Brazil vdilger 
keep talking shit, let him carry navi by himself
2018-01-13 18:39
He doesn't carry navi, he just gets frags. Effect of carrying is actually winning matches, not losing them.
2018-01-13 18:43
#113
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Lithuania IamU 
Umm ye, can't really win a round if your team sucks. S1mple has to do everything, not even funny
2018-01-13 18:55
Yes that's right, navi was so fucking terrible before he joined them, it's good at least that he carried them from top30 to top15.
2018-01-13 18:56
#119
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Lithuania IamU 
you do understand that Na'Vi got shit cuz of seized taking IGL role right? Or r u just a typical polak?
2018-01-13 18:56
You realize that it's just your theory same as mine? Or r u just a typical lithuanian?
2018-01-13 18:59
#125
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Lithuania IamU 
Remember lithuanian-polish commonwealth and let's stop the fighting!!!!!!
2018-01-13 19:00
#83
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Brazil cadik 
+1 that's a well known fact for smart people that s1mple is baiter + eco/exit fragger who doesn't care about team who cares about positive K/D stats only
2018-01-13 18:41
#116
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Lithuania IamU 
How does he bate? He mostly plays alone in mid trying to get frags/map pressure/control. Wtf r u talking about
2018-01-13 18:56
pimple is indeed the most overrated player in the existance of cs, rip navi
2018-01-13 18:43
just like Fatian, most overated awper to ever touch the game
2018-01-13 18:44
meanwhile faze is the most likely candidate for major winners, cry is free
2018-01-13 18:46
keep living in fairy tale. 0/3 last Major, almost lost to LIQUID with a COACH, MAJOR WINNERS SUPERTEAM LUL
2018-01-13 18:49
the only thing people talk about is his k/d rofl i remember when niko was in mouz and he always had the best k/d dispiste his team losing everything... as soon as he leaves his whole team gets instantly better. not coincidence
2018-01-13 18:44
#99
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Brazil cadik 
niko frags wasn't result of baiting + eco/exit fragging unlike s1mples one
2018-01-13 18:48
If he could trust his teammates he might wouldn't play so individualisticly.I think a part of why he is playing like that is he knows that some players in his team aren't good enough and he feels that he always has to do something cuz they can't hold their own. You can say how Zeus and Edward are team players but going 3-16 and 7-16 is just inexcuseable. Ofc s1mple isn't a perfect player,and it's only my theory
2018-01-13 18:47
#102
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Brazil cadik 
yes and that's why he is blaming and baiting them and demoralize them by doing that s1mple waht a player LUL
2018-01-13 18:50
When did he blaim his teammates?? Do you know what the point of bait setups are btw?To enable one player to have an easier kill.Now what would be the point of s1mple being the bait for Edward when he would whiff the kill half of the times?
2018-01-13 18:54
Flamie is an average player, Edward plays for moments, sometimes good sometimes bad. Electronic for now plays well, Zeus is the worst player in the team convincingly, Na'Vi whenever he loses Zeus no more than 5 murders. s1mple, the only thing that plays the standard good, however much you thought he was toxic. And when you play random match and you get into the team, some toxin do not have 5 kills each time.
2018-01-13 18:50
Zeus the murderer
2018-01-13 20:00
oh stfu hes the only one thats good in navi
2018-01-13 18:52
#112
s1mple | 
Finland Salli 
It's not like the rest of team plays well in the other side of the map where s1mple isn't. When you have 3 players below 10 frags in a game and actually watched what happened inside the server, they played like shit individually. s1mple can't run to zeus' computer and stop him spamming his USP in the opponents dick and getting headshotted.
2018-01-13 18:55
Yeah destroyed liquid flipside and hr as well? Br brain= worst brain
2018-01-13 18:56
#120
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Netherlands MerpNL 
agreed
2018-01-13 18:57
#131
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Netherlands Deji 
retarded idiot
2018-01-13 19:14
Lot of comments about simple getting 2-3 kills and then he fucks up the round. Maybe everyone on that team has a fucking problem if they cannot capitalise on that, not just simple. Yet the plebs can only blame one individual and not the whole team
2018-01-13 19:32
a lot of rounds where he gets 2 3 4 kills navi win the round the problem is: he try to do that every fucking time possible that he sees a chance, but we are in 2018 lol you can win against t3 teams, but theres no fools anymore nowdays, people will trade the kill,etc and guess what, he tried that 30x, gets 3,4kills like, 5x against top teams lol so you are only counting the highlights and stats, but not counting the rounds where he was over agroo, and died without killing everyone, or killed one and instant got traded.
2018-01-13 22:21
#139
trk | 
Brazil 643 
such a godlike analyst... congratulations my buddy.
2018-01-13 19:38
thank my friend <3 just basics of cs here
2018-01-13 22:19
Thats true, finally some hltv'er realized this, navi was a solid tier1 team before simple
2018-01-13 19:59
+1 thank for being this respected and very knowleagle cs persan <3
2018-01-13 22:18
no?
2018-01-13 20:06
#167
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Finland jusba 
+1
2018-01-13 22:41
#168
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Europe trey_ 
y and ur mothers anus aswell
2018-01-13 22:41
expected from faze "followethetrend" delusional fan lmao sk 16 - 2 faze on lan #neverforget
2018-01-13 22:43
#174
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Europe trey_ 
k now kys monkey
2018-01-13 22:51
S1mple > Monkeyzera
2018-01-13 22:43
2018-01-14 01:01
why u talk it about S1mple? NaVi kick guardian for zeus, now zeus play 3:17.
2018-01-13 22:54
idk man... NaVi have a good roster. Zeus,electronic,flamie... only player I see that if they remove they MIGHT improve which is obv Edward +preferably Hobbit.
2018-01-14 00:43
#189
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Australia BTwice 
This is a terrible terrible post.
2018-01-14 01:00
why?
2018-01-14 02:18
I kinda agree. NAvi was in top 5 teams in all big tournaments just before S1mple enter the Navi roster. After that its a downhill... big time. The issue here is you cant blame him directly since its the one doing best in team and carries Navi .. ! Its a weird situation.
2018-01-14 01:01
+1 I kind of agree, but for me he isnt doing good on navi, he just has good stats... having good stats doesnt translate to being "good for the team" =T
2018-01-14 02:19
niko is shit aswell
2018-01-14 01:05
niko can play for his team, his only problem seem to be facing SK and playing at major o.o I dont know why, he plays like a bot on every major lol
2018-01-14 02:18
pressure lol
2018-01-14 02:21
#197
FalleN | 
France nyygma 
Yeah nice analysis, can't tell if you're trolling or just very ignorant about CS itself. Yeah Simple definitely destroying NAVI, nice bait. Now stop the non sense.
2018-01-14 01:12
ok, show me with solid arguments why I'm wrong and you are right =) lets keep this a healthy discussion <3
2018-01-14 02:18
He don't has to give you any argument coz all of your arguments are bullshit.It's just you to think for yourself that you are right we don't even have to argue with you lol....... I will give one and s1mple argument why all of your aguments are shit.First of all,you act like chrisJ is piece of shit of the player just because he often don't lead mouzsports to win with his fragging.If chrisJ was soo bad mouz would kick him but noooo you are oneto tell that guy is a shit lol......."he literally just keep his KD positive"This sounds more like coldzera by the way.
2018-01-14 02:32
see? I'm all about healthy discussion, of course blind delusional fanbois arguments are "your arg are bullshit brah" LUL explain me why chrisJ and coldzera always win against s1mple? cuz they play "normal" high level cs, they are not overpeeking hunting frags every single game, even if chrisj have a bad game, he will play in the right way, every single time, mouz is a great team nowdays, everyone is working together. s1mple maybe can shoot faster than chrisJ or oskar, but 16-2 xd
2018-01-14 02:44
I think you should play for Na Vi instead s1mple.That would be an awesome idea don't you think?you are talking about 16:2 while SK lost against renegeades 16:0 and mouz is much better team now compared to renegades then.
2018-01-14 02:46
SK lost 16 0 ONLINE with a stand in lol every single time SK played navi on a bo3 navi didnt even had a chance (with s1mple) and even that, you can get stomped sometimes, the problem with s1mple is that, his team is shit forever since he joined lol in 2 years a legendary top team was t2 after s1mple joined =T but I guess on s1mple delusional imaginary fanboi world this is just "coincidence" or "conspiracy" xD
2018-01-14 02:47
1#Na vi was shit even before s1mple joined.It doesn't matter how bad/good s1mple play when he have Zeus and Edward in the team that can't frag. 2#Having a standing is not an excuse for a 16:0.................16:0.So now I can say SK won a major just because olof had injury and because GuardiaN didn't played -1/8. 3#I am not s1mples fnaboy and I never been. 0/8
2018-01-14 02:52
1- top2 at 2 majors and a couple top1s on good tournments, after s1mple joined = top1 at new york 2016 and from there to now = average t2 team. 2- top teams dont care about online cs, what matters is qualify for the main event, also if u think stand in doesnt count, just shows the great mind of a s1mple fanboi, and a faze "followthetrend" fanboi. 3- maybe u are not s1mple fanboi, but just a gold nova who doesnt understand cs :>
2018-01-14 02:55
#231
FalleN | 
France nyygma 
Sorry my man, I don't wanna argue right now, but I respect your opinion :D
2018-01-14 11:17
lul xd
2018-01-14 17:15
theyre 1-1 and its only the quali lol still gonna make semis no biggie
2018-01-14 02:44
#232
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Spain ChoS3N 
guardian wasnt even playing good
2018-01-14 11:19
#238
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Poland icelake 
Zeus leave team with simple = win major Guardian leave team with simple =start winning tournamnets Zeised leave team with simple = going 3:2 in major quali
2018-01-14 14:57
+1 confirmed
2018-01-14 18:04
O V E R R A T E D
2018-01-14 14:57
+1 confirmed by Dr_Bob_Vagen hltv confirmed.
2018-01-14 17:44
+1
2018-01-14 14:58
#242
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Kazakhstan tomik0 
Oh jeez here we go again mystery toxic of simple he was toxic at the start of his career, now he is pretty chill
2018-01-14 14:59
still dumb and play all aim no brain tho, thats the point here =p
2018-01-14 17:44
#261
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Kazakhstan tomik0 
Dude he is star player all game in navi basically builds around him and electronic i am pretty sure Zeus allow him doing whatever he want
2018-01-14 17:53
he is t2 star player never did anything on bo3 against top teams.
2018-01-14 17:54
#263
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Finland Arv1 
tier 2 ?
2018-01-14 18:02
show me a bo3 against a t1 team in the whole 2017 where s1mple did good and navi won lets see...
2018-01-14 18:03
#260
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Spain Kauka 
very friendy thread i like it
2018-01-14 17:48
only healthy discussions by polite people here my friend <3
2018-01-14 18:03
another proof that s1mple destroyed navi: they just lost 3x1 against spiidi. this would never happen before s1mple join!! #s1mpledestroyednavi
2018-01-14 20:16
whats the point creating topic "s1mple destroyed navi" every day?
2018-01-14 20:16
SIMPLE IS THE MOST UNDERRATED IN THIS FOOL GAME, OFC HE IS WAY BETTER THEN BOT COLD
2018-01-14 20:18
BZ opinions don't matter
2018-01-15 02:54
hltv.org/matches/2318555/faze-vs-natus-v.. zeus better kd than s1mple against top teams HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHA
2018-01-15 22:24
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