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I'm slowly losing my will to support nV. Don't get me wrong, Renegades are good, but nV played horrendously So now that nV are out of the major, who should I back to win ELEAGUE Major Boston? Should I walk across the bridge to back G2 for the Major? Should I just ditch French CS for Brazilian (even though SK are the only Brazilians left) or Danish CS in general? Should I upgrade to the international teams like FaZe, Optic, mousesports, etc? Should I lose my dignity and swap EU CS for NA CS? Honestly. Watching nV is like watching Arsenal: they have very clear problems that they just refuse to resolve Guys, I think it's finally time for me to consider jumping ships. I need recommendations, this is not healthy for me mentally or emotionally, I hate the fact that I went from enjoying ropz pull off an amazing 1v3 clutch against NaVi to this shit. I can't take it anymore
2018-01-13 20:37
#1
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Latvia Frip! 
Envyus will go 3-2 or will replace 100Thieves:D
2018-01-13 20:38
#3
suicide | 
Slovakia LINF 
I arent think that
2018-01-13 20:39
#60
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Estonia [007] 
i are thinking that
2018-01-13 21:27
#65
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Israel TheLoveGuy 
i are thinked that
2018-01-13 21:35
#126
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Indonesia RIZBEAST 
i arent thinking that
2018-01-14 12:15
I are think that
2018-01-14 12:23
i were thinking that
2018-01-14 12:31
i werent think that
2018-01-14 13:20
#171
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Ukraine [magda1ena] 
I werent that think
2018-01-14 13:53
#185
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Italy steven513 
I is think that
2018-01-14 16:52
#194
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United States S1usHer 
I was think that
2018-01-14 17:03
I thinking are that
2018-01-15 06:48
i arent thinkinged therent
2018-01-15 08:01
i are not be thinkinged of the that
2018-01-15 10:49
#289
Nifty | 
Germany Kamix3 
i would like be think that
2018-01-15 14:40
#294
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United States VeryTOx1KGuy 
I ore thunk that
2018-01-15 15:26
#295
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Lithuania IamU 
think that my I would
2018-01-15 15:27
#302
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Europe sq4ne 
i would think that
2018-01-15 16:43
im arent not going to thinked this
2018-01-15 17:26
#322
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Other afk47 
Je ne pense pas que
2018-02-05 03:29
without le tank i dont think so
2018-01-15 16:39
#2
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United Arab Emirates thatboi5ky 
+1 same problem
2018-01-13 20:39
Welcome to my world buddy. I'm feeling lost as an nV fan
2018-01-13 20:43
#14
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United Arab Emirates thatboi5ky 
i can relate...
2018-01-13 20:45
I'm getting a lot of votes for mousesports, maybe we should swap over to mousesports? see you there I guess
2018-01-13 21:11
#66
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Israel TheLoveGuy 
so unreal by a fan. asking for other fans to move to other team with him ? shame
2018-01-13 21:35
#296
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United States VeryTOx1KGuy 
At least we went 3-0 FeelsGoodMan
2018-01-15 15:29
#195
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United Arab Emirates thatboi5ky 
im gonna stick with nv 4 a lil while
2018-01-14 17:06
I'll keep put until after the Major and maybe after the 4th French shuffle if whatever is left of my patience can offer the chance for me to do so
2018-01-14 18:12
if you like methodical cs, danish cs is the best there is (teams like astralis and north although north can't figure anything out at the moment) if you like flashy style (individual) cs go for mousesports like you said, faze, or maybe g2 if you really wanna, fnatic is also pretty nice if you like watching teamwork plays, again danish cs is good, or a team like sk (although i personally discourage it) if you like a good underdog story go for some upset teams like maybe nip, gambit or renegades (personally my favourite upset team) hope you find the best team for you
2018-01-15 13:09
Thanks dude
2018-01-15 13:29
np bro
2018-01-15 19:08
#4
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Sweden godname 
not over yet !
2018-01-13 20:39
#5
BigDog | 
Japan LiLeX 
they need 2 wins to play in the tie breaker
2018-01-13 20:40
#6
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France Nxtro1 
at least they need to get 2-3 and play the tie breaker
2018-01-13 20:40
If not, I'll need to stop supporting nV since I'm starting to worry for my mental and emotional health now
2018-01-13 21:10
#102
ARTeMis | 
Australia zebO 
Try being a nip fangay
2018-01-14 10:00
GeT_RiGhT and f0rest may be improving, but they still have a long way to go. The difference is that NiP have shown they are willing to change (by removing friberg). So I dare to say that I would even prefer NiP over nV right now
2018-01-14 10:06
#118
ARTeMis | 
Australia zebO 
All nv need is sixer gone and zywoo to quit school ecksdee
2018-01-14 10:23
#190
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Italy steven513 
+1 and maybe -xms for someone like kio.
2018-01-14 16:54
#7
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Malaysia K2tan 
Envy shit team . Look at the match just now , they don’t even know how to smoke ct . And 3v3 happy have the site but it’s taking forever for his 2teammate to arrive and this idiot decide to peek car for no reason and dinked
2018-01-13 20:42
Why do you think I'm asking strangers on hltv for a team I should jump ship for? I stuck by them since that 3rd French shuffle which fucked us over. I stuck by them long enough, I'm legitimately upset, no, heartbroken over the way we lost to Renegades
2018-01-13 20:45
#8
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Other flynttt 
mouz seens a good choice then if they became a great team at the end of the year u can call the new fags ex faze fans of retardeds
2018-01-13 20:42
mousesports? interesting choice, promising team, consistency could've been better, but yeah, I'll keep that in mind
2018-01-13 20:44
#12
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Other flynttt 
gl with your choice my friend if u wanna join the br army u will be more then welcome cya sktop1
2018-01-13 20:45
yes, ropz is incredible with his reading game... I thought oskar has great gamesense until i saw ropz and his aim placement...
2018-01-13 20:45
Mouz is a lot of fun to watch and support
2018-01-13 20:44
I know. You have no idea how overjoyed I felt when I saw ropz make that clutch against NaVi. I haven't felt that way in a long time
2018-01-13 21:09
I have been a fan of them for a long time now, and have really always enjoyed watching their matches although they did suck at times, I feel as if they have stabilized. Chris as an in game leader is working out great. Oskar has so much talent he in my opinion could be rated top 10 this year. Mouz has always been an underdog who could actually create a lot of upsets, im so glad they are recking now.
2018-01-13 22:34
GODJ 1.72 HIGHEST RATING IN MAJOR QUALIFIER YYYEEEAAAHHHHH LETS GO MOUUUZZZ
2018-01-14 12:22
#15
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Romania mihaibvb 
Plastic fan
2018-01-13 20:45
1. I'm Chinese, I'm not expected to have loyalty 2. Try being an nV fan since the 3rd French shuffle, unless you want me to develop crippling depression, I need to jump ship NOW, I've lasted for about as long as I could. I'm heartbroken 3. How much of a fnatic fan are you? unlike us, you're showing signs of improvement and we aren't
2018-01-13 20:48
#46
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Germany S0rceress 
i feel you my friend, i am nV fan since 2015, this just makes you cry
2018-01-13 21:10
Yeah. I'm seriously worrying for myself now. How much more of this can an nV fan take? I know I can't. I'm breaking, in fact, I might just already be broken
2018-01-13 21:13
#70
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Germany S0rceress 
do you remember esl one cologne 2015? i member
2018-01-13 21:44
i was there my brudda
2018-01-13 22:01
Those were better times...
2018-01-14 10:22
2014 here (LDLC) Hopefully happy goes back to god happy and wins the major, literal 0.001% chance though.
2018-01-15 07:28
#304
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Germany S0rceress 
im still loyal nbk/happy/shox fan. Got a jersey from all of them, I hope especially happy will shine again soon.
2018-01-15 17:55
I used to like NBK and Shox a lot, but didn't like how Shox acted at the end of his stay at nV, and how NBK left Happy like that.
2018-01-15 19:18
#16
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France phenal 
u should go for mouz, very likeable team and i feel like they're gonna be top 5 or even top 3 mid-2018
2018-01-13 20:45
I'm already a believer of oskar. I think chrisJ just needs consistency to be good. The game against NaVi made me love ropz. suNny and STYKO still needs improvement Pretty good choice
2018-01-13 20:52
My man, mouz is such a good team to support. I as an Estonian especially enjoy Ropz playing and when they made the ECS S4 finals, I was proud to be a mouz fan
2018-01-13 21:50
Actually chrisJ looks nutz in this tournament.
2018-01-14 18:35
#206
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Denmark Xipingu 
+1 mouz is a lovely team now.
2018-01-14 18:19
#18
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Slovakia ypsylonnn 
Go for c9
2018-01-13 20:46
We'll see. I'm more of a Team Liquid guy, but really, I'd rather be watching any NA team over nV at the moment
2018-01-13 20:53
A bit late but if ur not into getting ur heart broken, wich it looks like ur not, dont go for liquid. I wouldn't go for C9 either, I support all teams in the na scene and they all have the problem of letting you down. If you want to go with something entertaining watch Misfits, Sean has done a very good job with that team.
2018-01-14 12:41
Which is interesting considering Misfits look like NA’s last hope at the moment
2018-01-15 07:54
Not really, they’re the na team that’re evolving the quickest that for sure but Cloud9 are doing great so far.
2018-01-15 07:58
The one thing I can credit Cloud9 for being good at is selling themselves to the public SO FAR. But they’ll become inconsistent as fuck as per usual afterwards
2018-01-15 08:20
I dont know, I migh be biased, after a bit of thinking I 100% am since ive said this every roster change but I hope and believe this roster can achieve things, they might even land a top 4 spot this major. But you're probably right, they'll become inconsistent and roster change in 6 months - 1 year
2018-01-15 14:38
damn that must been a difficult match for scream, worse than sixer?? madness
2018-01-13 20:46
Same. Watching ScreaM underperform like that was part of the reason I chose to make this thread. I can't take it anymore
2018-01-13 20:48
How the fuck can you support a team with happy and sixer for such long time? I really like scream and rpk and xms is promising but i could never be a real fan of a team with those 2
2018-01-14 10:00
Yeah, not following kennyS, NBK and apEX into G2 was a big mistake. I suffered this long for nothing
2018-01-14 12:45
How can they have RPK, Scream and Happy and still lose this easily?
2018-01-13 20:48
I honestly don't know. I'm just feeling emotional right now. I went from laughing and celebrating with mousesports fans over NaVi's collapse to this
2018-01-13 20:50
I feel you man. I was super happy to see Mousesports winning and then 100Thieves dropped out of the major
2018-01-13 20:53
Say, when are we gonna see 100T again anyway? I really want to see fnx play again
2018-01-13 20:54
I think and hope they'll be in the IEM Katowice. Have been waiting so long for them to debut but I'll have to wait even more
2018-01-13 20:56
I'm honestly not a fan of kNg and the bros for fucking over boltz and steel's Major chance because kNg overreacted to a tweet by FNS by sending him death threats But I'm planning to forgive kNg and the bros. I'm just ecstatic to know that fnx is back
2018-01-13 20:58
#163
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Netherlands Deji 
I think they are nervous
2018-01-14 13:41
Choose VP, it's like a rollercoaster, really fun
2018-01-13 20:52
I'll think about it
2018-01-14 12:02
#287
BnTeT | 
China Jardeet 
Yes a roller coaster that crashes and 0 survivors
2018-01-15 13:42
Except for the ones who do and remember the ride as the time of their lives
2018-01-16 02:15
if you’re a real fan, you must cheer even if the team is not in a good phase
2018-01-13 20:52
I'm sorry my friend, but it hurts to see nV play like that for so long. I was an nV fan for more than 2 years now. You try watching an nV game without screaming to yourself "-Happy +Ex6TenZ" all the time We are a mess, as long as nV keeps Happy, nV are hopeless
2018-01-13 21:06
0-2 is still not 0-3, moreover now they will face f3 which is even more terrible or other tier 210201293 team
2018-01-13 20:54
#32
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Norway chrizzje 
NV would lose to F3 if they play like this
2018-01-13 20:55
maybe, but this still would be a close match v;
2018-01-13 20:56
If we lose to F3. I'm definitely jumping ship confirmed, this thread will decide my new team for me
2018-01-13 20:55
imo let's hope they won't be playing vs avangar, they should manage to beat the other teams
2018-01-13 20:58
I'm just hoping we get F3 and at least beat someone for once
2018-01-13 21:07
#30
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Norway chrizzje 
Happy is the grimm reaper. First he killed shox, then kioShiMa, then NBK, apEX, kennyS and now ScreaM and RpK.
2018-01-13 20:54
I tried to warn everybody since the 3rd French shuffle: TAKE IN EX6TENZ BEFORE ITS TOO LATE Now look what happened. How did we lose like that to Renegades?!
2018-01-13 20:56
#95
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France Waiit 
Killing RPK ? Rpk said he has his best period in CS with Happy. Scream Can just make one taps, is overrated and not smart enough
2018-01-14 09:54
just enjoy the game
2018-01-13 20:55
I'm trying to
2018-01-13 21:07
Im with you my friend , feel bad :'(
2018-01-13 21:02
#45
Respect | 
Other Bra71I 
Come with us :)
2018-01-13 21:09
I'll gladly consider it my friend. Apparently nV are not out just yet. I'll see them out before I make a decision
2018-01-13 21:15
agree losing 16-6 to renegades is suicide inducing but their biggest problems can't be fixed that easily
2018-01-13 21:11
I didn't say easy, I just said clear problems. We won't know if the risk might pay off unless we actually take it. If this is what the future of nV is like, then I'm sorry, but I can't support nV any further
2018-01-13 21:15
just bear with it for until after major and if they still haven't made roster changes or role changes u can give up on the poor guys
2018-01-13 21:16
#51
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Netherlands Lynch^_^ 
Should I just ditch French CS for Danish CS in general? Danish CS is great but it's full of chokes. not recommended.
2018-01-13 21:14
Noted
2018-01-14 09:33
go misfits they are really good recently
2018-01-13 21:15
#77
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Luxembourg _hhh 
+1 the one true best french team
2018-01-13 21:52
Shahzam is doing quite well this tournament so far
2018-01-14 09:33
#55
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Ireland fizzypeas 
feelsbadman sometimes I think it's hard being a g2 fan but being an nV fan yikess.....
2018-01-13 21:16
#57
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Israel TheLoveGuy 
go with ur heart not with who is better i am fan of c9 since september 2016 and oh man, so much memes about them being chokers but i really like them, and thats why im saying their fan and despite that they are really good
2018-01-13 21:18
#59
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Austria lisossomos 
Tarok top1 2018
2018-01-13 21:26
#61
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Israel TheLoveGuy 
+1
2018-01-13 21:28
Np,no,no,He is Turok xddd.
2018-01-16 00:34
true fans don't jump ships
2018-01-13 21:17
#62
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Israel TheLoveGuy 
+1
2018-01-13 21:28
#63
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Israel TheLoveGuy 
unless they move org but its not the same
2018-01-13 21:29
Since when was anything true in China?
2018-01-14 09:34
#64
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Germany gigaTV0803 
support mouz so you can say you have supported the major winner at least
2018-01-13 21:29
I'll think about it
2018-01-14 09:35
Same for me ;(
2018-01-13 21:41
#68
nitr0 | 
Canada Surzz 
if you like envy, keep supporting them. a true fan wouldn't jump ship just because their team has issues.
2018-01-13 21:43
#73
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Netherlands MerpNL 
+ fucking 10000000 fans like this give me straight cancer, and i can know as 1 of the biggest VP fan
2018-01-13 21:47
It's not about team issues anymore, it's just that this team is hopeless when you think about it As aforementioned. They have very clear problems they need to resolve (namely Happy. But SIXER is another big problem too). When you see your team collapse like that in front of Renegades, and the fact that the only nV player who can walk away with his head held up high is Rpk. You really need to start questioning yourself for choosing the team you support Seriously, nV's performance was so bad, if the team was any older, we would basically be the French NaVi
2018-01-14 09:44
IE user spotted
2018-01-13 21:44
A what? I don't know what that means
2018-01-14 09:46
#165
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Netherlands Deji 
How do you know?
2018-01-14 13:42
another IE user
2018-01-14 16:47
#71
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Czech Republic HesucK 
its stupid to just forcing yourself to swap your fanship to another team. You must support your team through your heart or just listen to it (like what team you like to watch, which players seem like good guys to you etc.) ...or there is an option where you support your favourite player and every team he is in...thats my case with pronax. And even now, when he is not active (and when he is, his K/D is usually around 0.5..), I still support him
2018-01-13 21:45
I'm only doing what I should've done after the third French shuffle: change sides I tried maintaining loyalty, but is there any point? and besides, pronax is about to play in a team with Maikelele and pyth, a chance to recover from the GODSENT disaster. How much hope do you think Rpk, let alone the entire nV roster have left?
2018-01-14 09:56
#178
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Czech Republic HesucK 
well I think they should mix with ldlc....everybody knows happys strats and from what I heard he is stubborn as hell and doesnt listen to his teammates ideas...which is not what ex6tenz is
2018-01-14 14:34
And that's why I want Ex6TenZ over Happy. If he wants to play for himself, then CSGO is not a game for Happy, he may as well make the jump to COD or PUBG if he keeps being that selfish
2018-01-15 10:56
#72
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Netherlands MerpNL 
fake fan LUL, im VP fan. Dont ever lose faith in ur team. u dont support a team for their results, u support them for who they are and u keep believing in them even in hard times. "fans" like u are arent even worth to be called fans.
2018-01-13 21:46
I'm not supporting nV for results, if I were that I would've swapped nV for G2 the moment kennyS, NBK and apEX left at the same time. I did try to support them for who they are, but how long can you last when your IGL is basically the most arrogant man in Tier 1? considering the time between now and the 3rd French shuffle, not to mention our performances with no signs of improvement besides Rpk, I'm not sure if I should continue
2018-01-14 09:50
#225
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Netherlands MerpNL 
this is a decent reason to swap teams, but u didnt mention this part of your reason in ur intro bit :D just swap VP, most bueatifull team and gonna win major for sure
2018-01-14 21:43
#74
Turkey Rtax 
I'm not expected to have loyalty
2018-01-13 21:48
happy is not good anymore since his LDLC days lol. RPK & scream & sixer are only there because of their name and xms didn't develop under happy his leader ship. it's hard to play the blamegame in a complex system like 5 man interaction but yeah.. envy is probably done. in hindsight it is so predictable. RPK & screaM should invest their energy in teaching new youths how to play and how to be boss. sixer should have proven himself in another team before he got in this one. and xms deserves another shot under another leader.
2018-01-13 21:52
It's amazing to see how many nV fans are still prefer Happy over Ex6TenZ. Their performance against Renegades exposed everything that was wrong with nV, and it all starts with Happy
2018-01-14 09:58
#78
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Russia xtkjdtr01 
Watch how Astralis will win this major
2018-01-13 21:52
only because sk doesn't have boltz!
2018-01-15 18:11
Oh come on, felps wasn’t THAT bad
2018-01-15 23:59
I know, but due to the fact that he is not training with SK and is playing some "Brazilian Rank S" at Gamersclub (brazilian faceit/esea) he PROBABLY won't be in his best form.... but i still have some hope!
2018-01-16 01:36
#79
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India LodFresa 
And people wonder why scream is not in G2 XD, soo bad !!!
2018-01-13 21:54
As painful it is for me to say, but I can't imagine any G2 fan wanting ScreaM over NBK, apEX or bodyy after that performance
2018-01-14 09:59
#129
BigDog | 
Japan LiLeX 
i d i o t
2018-01-14 12:18
You'd be stupid to get rid of NBK, apEX and bodyy for someone so infuriatingly inconsistent like ScreaM. What? do you just want to see shox and ScreaM play together? be my guest, I'd gladly take NBK, apEX or bodyy, just give them consistency and we have a very good French player So who's the idiot now? oh yeah that's right. You, it's even in your name fucking retard
2018-01-14 18:16
#203
BigDog | 
Japan LiLeX 
"So who's the idiot now? oh yeah that's right. You" i got destroyed
2018-01-14 18:16
#167
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Netherlands Deji 
When scream is at it best for a while he will be top 10 for sure and then g2 will cry when they have bodyy on their team instead of rpk or scream
2018-01-14 13:43
#179
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India LodFresa 
we will talk when that happens, IF THAT HAPPENS lul
2018-01-14 15:09
#80
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Uruguay Zorrondo 
I thougt nv was a good team, but when they losed against a rank s mix I lost all my respect.
2018-01-13 22:01
it's np, next match Flash, then Quantum Bellator Fire, and then they knock out G2 in the 2-2 match.
2018-01-13 22:05
#113
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Germany Constikdw 
No G2 will go 3-0
2018-01-14 10:18
^^ g2_vs_vega 16-9
2018-01-14 16:51
#84
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Austria FURT1 
Stay EnVyUs fan man better times will come I mean I'm a big fan of NiP and VP but I will stay a fan forever. :)
2018-01-13 22:38
what if they shut down csgo team forever??? at least stickers will skyrocket
2018-01-14 16:51
#223
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Austria FURT1 
Then you can stick to the core of the lineup i dont think much people are fan of the org but rather fan of the roster ^^
2018-01-14 18:35
#91
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France Waiit 
So you are not a true fan or supporter Cheering SK just because they are winning is thé dumbest thing I have ever seen
2018-01-14 09:49
It's not because they're winning which is why I'm considering ditching French CS for Brazilian CS. I used to enjoy watching French CS when it was fun, now I'm not enjoying French CS at all People tell me "enjoy the game". Guess what? I need a refresh, I'm not changing teams for trophies, hell, I'd even support 100T if I have to. I just want to enjoy watching CS again, like I did with mousesports last night
2018-01-14 10:14
#175
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France Waiit 
Cheering nV doesn't mean i'm not enjoying watching the others teams. I love watching Astralis, SK etc. But I'm cheering nV, not the same thing
2018-01-14 13:57
To be honest? that line between enjoying to watch other teams and flat out supporting a team is beginning to blur for me Tell me, does the idea of repeating "-Happy +Ex6TenZ" over a hundred times per round sound fun to you? exactly, nV needs fresher ideas, new ways to improve, Ex6TenZ may be an outdated leader, but unlike Happy, at least he's willing to listen and give their methods a try Honestly? I'll try not to think about it the next couple of games. I'm getting sick and tired of repeating the same points over and over
2018-01-15 11:01
#278
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France Waiit 
Happy is not the problem. Sixer miss too many crucial shot. Scream is overrated AF, Xms is young... Everyone in the scene Say that Happy is the best french IGL. Put him with 4 awesome players and you Can be top 3 easily
2018-01-15 11:47
Pfft, obviously because the other 4 players can carry Happy. FaZe Clan anybody? Everyone? make that a thread, message me the link to that thread
2018-01-15 11:52
#280
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France Waiit 
Pronax was Always the last on the scoreboard and he was the best Igl in the World. Got carried don't mean that you are bad
2018-01-15 12:26
#92
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Australia APExcsgo 
-happy +literally anyone from the academy +scream or xms as igl Might solve a lot of problems
2018-01-14 09:50
The academy bit makes me laugh because it’s so fucking true, you could put fucking Lambert in the team and we’d do at least slightly better than we’re doing right now. Sad truth about life :/
2018-01-15 07:58
#251
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Australia APExcsgo 
+1
2018-01-15 09:26
#94
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Kazakhstan sundby 
well have no clue why someone is a fan of nV 4now, because scream is such an overrated idiot, happy is bad, and sixer can't even frag
2018-01-14 09:53
#97
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Australia APExcsgo 
Scream and sixer actually used to be good and then happy runied them
2018-01-14 09:56
I don't know what I was thinking when I thought Rpk and ScreaM could actually offer something different for nV. I was only half-right, ScreaM can be a skilled player, but he's just so inconsistent, Rpk on the other hand exceeded my expectations, which is partly why I lasted this long as an nV fan
2018-01-14 10:19
It'll be really sweet if they come back and become a good team. I can almost imagine the good feels... 2 1/2 years and waiting...
2018-01-15 07:14
Love these type of fans. Pure bandwagons hahah
2018-01-14 09:55
Oh really? you're gonna call an nV fan of 2 years a bandwagon? even after losing kennyS, NBK and apEX? And you know what? I don't care anymore, I'm finally cashing in. Unlike Echo Fox who has a chance of becoming better than they are (if they sign ex-CLG or anybody that is), nV are just hopeless. Watch the recent nV vs Renegades match, or even the highlights, and you'll know what I mean
2018-01-14 10:11
Its okay dude but dont call yourself and Nv fan because clearly you support players not the team or org. Nv also can get better after the major because there are talks about french shuffle and we might see leadership changes in ldlc,nv.
2018-01-14 10:14
I really hope so. Because I'm at my breaking point with nV now. There's only so much bullshit you can take before you explode. If Happy still isn't gone by the time the 4th French shuffle comes around, I'm officially done with nV
2018-01-14 10:16
I understand your point but what can ex6 do for Nv ? Not a lot i guess, they need atleast 1 more year to sign zywoo but other than that i dont think that anything will,can change for them
2018-01-14 10:18
But what if zywoo turns out to be a cheater? it's a frightening thought, however, considering his game against Singularity, it could actually be possible I'll tell you what he can do: give structure to the team and adapt Happy is an arrogant prick who refuses to try out new ideas and makes himself look foolish when he isn't the IGL. Meanwhile Ex6TenZ is the exact opposite of Happy, and for the moment? that's what we need right now The only other French player I can think of who we can get outside of the nV Academy is kioShiMa, everyone else is already taken
2018-01-15 11:05
#137
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Bulgaria Pixeland 
if you like kennys apex and nbk then you should be fan of g2
2018-01-14 12:29
#155
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Indonesia FinZzz 
Yea true. 3 players > 2 players. Whatever team has the most players you like should be the one you cheer for.
2018-01-14 12:55
The funny thing was that during the course of 2016, ScreaM ended up becoming my favourite player, and when he signed for nV, that encouraged me not to follow kennyS, NBK and apEX into G2. I'm now starting to regret that decision Don't get me wrong, I still like ScreaM, but I tend to remember him as that OP meme who landed every headshot and one tap possible instead of the inconsistent player that he actually is
2018-01-15 11:09
#103
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India Reaper1 
We'll finally see them disbanding
2018-01-14 10:01
Maybe
2018-01-14 10:07
#107
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Sweden sowhee 
i thought there is no one who continues to support envyus lol
2018-01-14 10:12
Yeah? well that proved to be a big mistake on my part
2018-01-14 10:17
I'll still support nV. It's not easy being a Happy fan, shitty results, toxic haters, etc... But, I'm still chugging along 2 1/2 years after Happy fell off.
2018-01-15 07:12
join us will be a lot of fun in the 3 events VP shows up this year
2018-01-14 10:17
We'll see
2018-01-14 12:01
#117
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Estonia Chaostic 
Dont support anyone and you wont be dissapointed
2018-01-14 10:22
#119
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Other KittyChamp 
Crappy thread overall and your "i am china, what is true" shit is truly pathetic.
2018-01-14 10:23
So how was NiP for 5 years straight? wait, I can answer you: it's getting better, GeT_RiGhT and f0rest are finally showing improvements, HeatoN has proven he's not afraid of taking risks (by getting rid of friberg). So overall, NiP look promising so far As for nV? oh yeah, it just gets progressively worse and worse. Remember DreamHack Cluj-Napoca? neither do I, this is a far cry from what we once were
2018-01-14 10:31
AU CS THANK YOU
2018-01-14 12:02
Same problem dude. After the shuffle EnVy played really well. But since they didnt qualify for the PGL Major they sucked so hard. Hopefully EnVy is getting something done today. Iam still gonna Support EnVy. But i think Happys days as a really good Player are gone. I think Existenz is better and i really enjoyed it to watch Ldlc in the last pro leauge sesion
2018-01-14 12:10
Well, good luck on that, I'll be gone not long after the Major and the 4th French shuffle
2018-01-14 12:09
As an arsenal fan, can confirm watching nV is EXACTLY like watching arsenal
2018-01-14 12:16
#128
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Bulgaria Pixeland 
fan of titan is harder to be my friend
2018-01-14 12:17
#130
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Hungary StraYzie 
+1
2018-01-14 12:20
But at least you'll have stickers you can sell for a fortune on the Steam market
2018-01-14 12:29
#131
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Hungary StraYzie 
as a Turkish fan, be the fan of SS
2018-01-14 12:20
#133
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United Kingdom Jobelspice 
I relate, as an English fan there aren’t good enough teams to support at the top level, I was a French fan for a while and now they choke so much I can’t watch it and I don’t know who to support.
2018-01-14 12:23
I was a FaZe fan since the Maikelele , Rain , Jkaem , Aizy , fox lineup . I didnt jump ship while they were getting destroyed in groups every single tour back in 2015 . Just stick around and keep supporting nV and you might see better days .
2018-01-14 12:27
FaZe when they were g2 almost won major in cluj napoca
2018-01-14 12:35
I hope, I'll give them until after the 4th French shuffle, max Yeah, but let's face it: it's FaZe Clan Arguably the biggest org in eSports. With a rep like their's, do you think the FaZe guys were gonna let their CS team continue that way? pfft, you'd be foolish if you thought so The 360 noscopers kicked everyone else but rain, brought in NiKo, karrigan, kioShiMa and allu. An instant upgrade over the previous team, then when they got smacked in PGL Krakow 2017, they got rid of kioShiMa and allu for GuardiaN and olofmeister. And if FaZe get 1-2'd, I suspect karrigan and olofmeister are next On the contrary, nV lost good players, some of them arguably the best in CS history just for this washed up redLine player who isn't shox or Ex6TenZ. What was his name? EMSTQD or whatever the fuck it was? oh wait, right: Happy was the name We're hopeless man, Hastr0 is actually retarded
2018-01-14 12:37
nV is also one of the biggets e-sports org , who knows maybe with the recent results they'll change things up . FaZe had a horrible line up all of 2015-2016 , give nV some more time and if you dont see things changing fuck them .
2018-01-14 12:49
G2/Kinguin was pretty good late 2015 from cologne to cluj to iem san jose. top 8 team at the time. THE HORRIBLE TIMES were the first half of 2016, that was really bad, faze were not even a top 10 team.
2018-01-14 18:19
#138
shox | 
Germany Sofio 
come with g2
2018-01-14 12:29
I can understand you dont wanna support envy but atleast cheer for an eu team
2018-01-14 12:34
#143
NBK- | 
France mintzz 
G2 can play beautifully but they're inconsistent
2018-01-14 12:40
1rd world problems lul
2018-01-14 12:47
#176
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Sweden magist3rn 
1st* lol*
2018-01-14 13:58
dance LUL
2018-01-14 14:00
idk what is happening to them =(
2018-01-14 12:51
me too,i supporting envyus every fight. but they are noobs now.. no form, i think - sixer is good idea
2018-01-14 12:52
Hey bro, I had this combination of arsenal and NV ;-; but i moved onto real madrid and G2 which is much better. Move ON
2018-01-14 12:52
#153
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Indonesia FinZzz 
Cheer for barcelona instead xD
2018-01-14 12:54
Hey I like them But Hala madrid also messi is god <3
2018-01-14 13:33
G2-Real Madrid are the only eligible combination in country when you compare a pro CS team to a pro football team Arsenal-nV are a combination in terms of how stubborn they are to change, and how their lack of change basically turns them into hopeless teams Another combo that would work is FC Copenhagen and North or Bayern Munich and BIG
2018-01-15 11:19
#151
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Indonesia FinZzz 
I used to be a HUGE nv fan like yourself. Been cheering for them french boys since the ldlc days. Then the shuffle happened when NBK apex and kenny moved to G2 joining shox and bodyy. Thats when i started to cheer G2 since most of my fav players are going to G2. I suggest you cheer for G2. Maybe you wont feel the same way as cheering NV but idk. I mean they are very similar in terms of style of play and philoshophy.
2018-01-14 12:53
"Watching nV is like watching Arsenal" I like that comment but even tho Arsenal sre shit ppl still love the club and If juventus didnt win the league will you stop supporting them?
2018-01-14 12:53
I would still support Juve even if they didn't win the league now, but the difference is that Juve aren't stubborn If you had a girlfriend or wife who was clearly cheating on you, but she pulled the puppy eyes on you just so you would stay and not cause complications, would you stay? or would you leave? I can easily tell you my answer: I'd leave in a heartbeat
2018-01-15 11:24
Did started supporting nV when kennyS and apex etc etc were there or the current line up.
2018-01-15 11:29
nV still has a chance now 100 thevies withdrawed.
2018-01-15 11:36
same shit man.. I watched every match, but EnVy have some insanely big problems, did'nt see any other team to play so poor like EnVy did
2018-01-14 12:55
So many plastic fans these days, it's insane...
2018-01-14 13:25
Except the difference is that you don't expect real fans from China. And I was here since 2016 and even after the 3rd French Shuffle. So if anything, I should've changed teams long ago, now I'm making back for lost time
2018-01-14 13:41
LOL, if you can change your favourite team just like that, then you weren't really a fan in the first place.
2018-01-14 13:54
It's just China things man. You wouldn't understand Literally half of the people I know who watch pro CS "support" C9, then SK, then whomever
2018-01-14 18:26
#174
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Sweden magist3rn 
Just cause you are from china you arnt expected to be a "real fan"?? What kind of shit logic is that. We are all the same, we are all humans theres no difference if you are from sweden, france, USA or china. If I were you I would support a team from china like tyloo or flash or whatever, just like I support Swedish teams, fnatic and nip.
2018-01-14 13:56
Hey. Are you a Chinese sports team fan? we are probably the single biggest country for plastic fans. I don't know about you but when you're literally the only "real" fan amongst your classmates, friends, etc. It's like "what the fuck are you doing? stop making yourself suffer. Watch another team" Typical of the foreigners. You need to experience this shit first hand to get the logic
2018-01-14 18:25
Not sure why so many agression. Chinese guy actually surprised me. Smart, calm and rational. And yes, Asian ppl are easy to fall in love in some media-person and as easy to forget about it after some time. For instance, Beckham wouldn't be in Real Madrid without Asian fans.
2018-01-15 14:42
#158
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Sweden TDK Em1L 
Go 4 fnatic ofc Or North, they need more fans #fuckforgotit le #
2018-01-14 13:29
Wait for ZywOo Btw
2018-01-14 13:37
#162
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Romania SeDaTy 
its really hard.. but we need to belive in a comeback.. maybe now, when they are 0-2 they should play without fear and just try to win 2 games to make it to the tiebraker for 100t's spot
2018-01-14 13:40
But do you even know how many teams will need to choke in order for us to take 100T's spot? you're talking about an against-the-odds story which requires more or less everyone to come together perfectly like dominoes for nV to qualify. We're 0-2 down, all it takes is one more L and we're definitely out
2018-01-14 13:45
#170
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Romania SeDaTy 
i cant see envy losing to flash, so it will be 1-2 with some luck we can face qbf, avangar or F3 in the 1-2 game and i think that envy could beat those teams with a decent veto a also a decent individual performance from everyone it depends a lot on the draws also last year envy managed to comeback from 0-2 after losing to Immortals and G2, making it 3-2 after beating Spirit, TyLoo and Vega ( the draw luck that i was talking about )
2018-01-14 13:51
We won, 1-2. My point still stands. 1 loss and we're out. Nothing is guaranteed until it is done
2018-01-14 18:21
#224
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Romania SeDaTy 
such a bad game damn.. if they are gonna face a decent team in the next match, they are gonna be destroyed.. i never saw such a lost team..
2018-01-14 19:35
You see what I mean?! name me another team who is underperforming this badly (besides NaVi LMAO). Even F3 lived up to some of their capability (markeloff was alright) That’s why when we lost to Renegades, I freaked the fuck out. If we keep playing like this, we could see nV vanish from the hltv (shit) ranking table I’m still not convinced by nV’s form. Also, Rpk is sick to the point where he can’t even walk supposedly (read the recent article) My reaction? in the legendary words of gob b: “fak”
2018-01-15 08:04
#281
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Romania SeDaTy 
a good draw.. lets hope that they will beat QBF and make it 2-2 i have a feeling that they will make it to the big stage.. lets hope that le tank is ok and he can carry also i hope that scream will show up.. he is having a really bad tournament
2018-01-15 12:31
#169
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Sweden magist3rn 
Dude c'mon, I'm a Fnatic fan and we have done nothing really for 2 years now. I'm also a VfL Wolfsburg fan in football and there we have played shit aswell going from top 5 team to relegation battle team... It's a struggle but that is what it means to be a fan, you stick with your team, not backstabbing them in their worst moments, you support them through it.
2018-01-14 13:50
vfl wolfsburg fan xddddddddddddd i mean come one you can ask vw to get 50 million to buy some players
2018-01-14 16:52
#184
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Sweden magist3rn 
Atleast im not a plastic fan like you probably are.
2018-01-14 16:52
wolfsburg and no plastic fans xd
2018-01-14 16:53
#196
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Sweden magist3rn 
I don't really see your point other than a shit ass bait.
2018-01-14 17:14
your whole club is plastic rofl no tradition shit fans nothing special you cant even fill your stadium for champions league games
2018-01-14 17:20
#219
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Sweden magist3rn 
You okay bud? you seem a little on the edge.
2018-01-14 18:27
just a couple of facts plastic as leipzig :)
2018-01-14 18:30
I repeated my point so many times: fnatic are showing signs of recovering, nV aren't. As for the Wolfsburg bit, they aren't even a big team in Germany, they're more or less the Sampdoria of Germany: they did have some players of note, but other than that? not really And since you're using the example of football, let's talk Leyton Orient. 2nd oldest club in England, now they're 19th in the Conference after just a handful of years. All it takes is a few stupid mistakes and being stubbornly resistant to change for a club to collapse like that. I know a hopeless team when I see one
2018-01-14 18:07
ENVYUS will have a roaster change after the major, kio is coming in so pretty sure their not having a good time playing the major... How do i know that kio is going to envyus ? Just mark my words :)
2018-01-14 13:54
Literally anybody from a mile away could tell you kioShiMa is coming home to nV. G2 clearly aren’t going to change their roster for anybody except maybe zywoo
2018-01-15 08:06
lul im envy and arsenal fan... feelsbadman :(
2018-01-14 16:52
#188
BigDog | 
Japan LiLeX 
same xd but i also like g2
2018-01-14 16:53
You have my sympathy my friend. Bad choices in teams I suppose :/
2018-01-14 18:08
#189
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United Kingdom OBLewis 
said it for months and months, nv will do nothing with happy on the team
2018-01-14 16:53
Yet people insist Happy is still better than Ex6TenZ. Cry me a river Happy fans, he's the problem. Not shox, kioShiMa, DEVIL, NBK, apEX or kennyS. It's fucking Happy. These 2 years have proved my point
2018-01-14 18:11
#191
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Australia Eagz 
Come, join us...
2018-01-14 16:54
#192
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Denmark paidz 
They just need to -XMS he is so shit and fucking + KIOSHIMA, they have one of the best players in the world going around free agent.
2018-01-14 16:58
#235
BigDog | 
Japan LiLeX 
He’s not free
2018-01-15 07:28
#253
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Denmark paidz 
Then buy him free, i don't think enVy miss out on the money!
2018-01-15 10:31
#274
BigDog | 
Japan LiLeX 
i dont understand what u just said but hes on contract with faze
2018-01-15 11:33
#301
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Denmark paidz 
i said envy can buy him out??
2018-01-15 16:40
#193
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Sweden Nuggeet 
support fanantic
2018-01-14 17:00
#204
NiKo | 
Sweden Langbent 
Nv won lel.
2018-01-14 18:17
#205
Hiko | 
United States ph3n0m3n 
if you're French there is no reason to not support G2. this NV lineup is dead. almost lost to chinese nonamers (worse than tyloo).
2018-01-14 18:17
Dear mother of god. Nobody can be worse than TyLoo except the Silvers
2018-01-14 18:20
#208
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Denmark Xipingu 
Don't ever go NA CS. That's like going full retard - and you can never do that.
2018-01-14 18:19
Dont worry after major -xms -sixer +zywoo +k1oshima
2018-01-14 18:20
#211
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United Arab Emirates DuncanAK 
inb4 envyus wins the major xD
2018-01-14 18:20
I wish lol
2018-01-15 07:18
Ez Keep nv as your flair Have 2 teams that you like alot Exmpl My fave team is vp Vp kinda suks but i like them When the dont get invited or they dont get out of gs I support my 2nd fave teams Fnc faze ast optic
2018-01-14 18:21
That was one out of two of the biggest mistakes I made in 2016 when it comes to watching pro CS
2018-01-15 10:42
rly ? i really enjoy this method
2018-01-15 13:02
I meant that I should've been a player fan and not to mention that I should've prepared a secondary team to watch in case nV ever became Gold Novas
2018-01-15 13:30
well least you're not NA, no hope at all tbh here. Never liked NA teams, prob never will. always and have been a FaZe fan here. (and no im not a member of the bandwagoning losers that hype them up and hate on SK constantly and say FaZe Top1)
2018-01-14 18:24
True, but everybody knows basically every NA player are fucking onliners, so why should we expect NA to win anything, let alone become relevant again? even brax tried and flopped, and this was the same kid NA tipped to be EU material nV on the other hand? shouldn’t be performing like this at all, with Rpk sick and ScreaM underperforming below expectations in NiP fashion. I think nV are out of the major this time around
2018-01-15 08:14
#254
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Denmark paidz 
I don't know.. i think cloud9 aalways has been close to top, and there is a lot of potiential in the current lineup!
2018-01-15 10:33
RUSH? ehh, I'll need more time to make my judgement tarik? ehh, he's alright, a somewhat more consistent option, decent replacement for shroud Stewie2k? he can be a bit overrated at times, but he's definitely NA's best non-banned player as of now autimatic? he can be a bit underrated at times, not exactly the best NA talent around, but he's definitely up there Skadoodle? easily the best NA AWPer, but he really needs consistency in order to stop passing the crown back and forth between him and jdm64
2018-01-15 10:41
#260
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Denmark paidz 
Rush i am with you.. Tarik has to adapt to IGL and still puts up big numbers for the team, i think that is great. Stewie2k is by far the biggest NA talent, he is so insane. He is starting to show it mroe and more. Autimatic is quite good, i think he is the best aimer on C9, he will be better. Skadoodle we alle know what he can do :) And he is starting to begin in again! Still miss shroud <3
2018-01-15 10:51
#321
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Denmark paidz 
what up now sweeeeeeeeeedes ;D
2018-02-05 03:25
I think is that
2018-01-14 18:24
I feel you
2018-01-14 18:25
#221
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United Kingdom Zoro117 
I think G2 is a good pick. They're french as well. Moreover, now that shox is going back to his lurking role, you can't expect great things from them. It might just be me, BUT i NEVER get bored of watching them play :)
2018-01-14 18:33
#227
zqkS | 
Canada PwnNewb 
just be a BIG fan, they can never do less than you expect of them. nV is opposite you expect things they never do.
2018-01-15 06:50
HAHAHAHAHA how come I didn’t think of that!?
2018-01-15 08:15
#309
zqkS | 
Canada PwnNewb 
come to zheee Germanz the Frenchies just proved my point!
2018-01-16 00:24
#228
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Portugal NAOverEU 
G2, FaZe, OpTic, C9, or Mouz. International is nice. C9 has personality. G2 fo french. ez
2018-01-15 07:00
#229
??? | 
Austria L1GHT_ 
Always support the team you like most... not the most successful one sincerely, a NiP fan :D
2018-01-15 07:05
Noted
2018-01-15 08:18
nV can technically still win the major, never lose hope.
2018-01-15 07:19
#250
zqkS | 
Canada PwnNewb 
Lol n1
2018-01-15 08:29
#234
KK | 
Denmark s0denone 
envy is eu team tryna play na cs but its even more retarded
2018-01-15 07:22
That...perfectly sums up what nV is doing pretty much (oddly enough)
2018-01-15 08:18
#243
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Sweden swediztann3 
You should support the team you like. Braindead or something?
2018-01-15 08:12
That’s what I WAS doing. Now I’m reconsidering my choice of teams
2018-01-15 08:17
OMEGALUL
2018-01-15 10:42
#258
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Nepal hpbaxx 
wenger out
2018-01-15 10:43
#261
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Italy Div-\ 
I always had a soft spot for happy so more than the NV brand I'm a supporter of his teams, and I'm not leaving his side. Nv right now is in a shit spot, they also have RPK that is sick, but don't stop believing man! They can still do it, and if they do not well let's see what happens in the future.
2018-01-15 10:55
They cant do it with Sixer awping and Happy still trying to sneak flank every round. As soon as they hit a bombsite you know Happy is going to be on other side of the map coming up behind you 1 minute later. I think if you give Scream and RPK 3 solid players you have a good team.
2018-01-15 11:02
zywoo metal ex6
2018-01-15 11:22
#268
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Germany 'ezpz 
only good thing at nV is Rpk. Still sad that the best french player dont play for the best french team.
2018-01-15 11:21
And now he's sick. For fuck sakes, nV are out of the major confirmed
2018-01-15 11:26
#293
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Germany 'ezpz 
Very sad for me, I'm a big fan of him and Ex6TenZ since I played CS:S (around 2008/09), i hope he can anyhow make it through with this team and get picked up by g2 in this year.
2018-01-15 15:25
#297
shox | 
France Kabby 
g2 won't make any change for years
2018-01-15 16:35
#276
shox | 
France Kabby 
I really like RpK but you can't say he's the best french player.. TOP5 french player for sure, but not 1st
2018-01-15 11:37
#292
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Germany 'ezpz 
imo shox kenny and him are on the same level, but he is the most complete player of france.
2018-01-15 15:23
#270
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Finland ginbay 
Lmaoo lucky teams
2018-01-15 11:23
A real fan supports his team no matter what also nV will go 3-2
2018-01-15 11:40
Nope. QBF actually smacked nV. I’m speechless
2018-01-16 00:27
didnt know that malek is gonna play when i wrote this
2018-01-16 00:45
#284
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Lithuania IamU 
Cmon it's just wrong. I was Na'vi fan from early 2017. They were doing very poorly, but I still sticked around. Please, they're just on a losing streak, as was Na'Vi, they will have good tournaments, trust me on that. It's just a fun journey to follow them through their ups and downs and experience it with them
2018-01-15 13:17
Dont forget that RPK is sick af. He can barely walk right now ..,
2018-01-15 14:43
I know. And we just got knocked the fuck out by QBF
2018-01-16 00:24
Wasnt our fault tho, just unlucky timing of sickness. With rpk we would win 10 of 10 times.
2018-01-16 00:36
Maybe, maybe not. Either way, we would still be suffering the same problems. Rpk being sick was just another one to the list
2018-01-16 01:22
They need to change approach tk the game. There are some very skilled players in the team.
2018-01-16 01:35
#298
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United States BaguetteArmy 
If you like French teams you should cheer for g2
2018-01-15 16:38
#300
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Europe Vallon 
Try being a NiP fan.
2018-01-15 16:40
Let’s see. GeT_RiGhT and f0rest, 2 legendary players in CS1.6 and CSGO. Xizt the so-so IGL. REZ and draken the new kids Yeah, I think I would last longer as an NiP fan than I would as an nV fan
2018-01-16 00:27
#319
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United States munkE_pOo 
#GOGOVP babay!
2018-01-16 01:36
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