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Other John Goodick 
Who do you guys think will win? I may do 1000$ Bet on Mouz but they let me down too many times but what is your opinion of who is stronger?
2018-01-14 09:00
Skadoodle | 
United States Kdg90 
im bias but i think it's atleast 60/40 odds for c9
2018-01-14 09:01
From a C9 fans perspective maybe
2018-01-14 09:28
well that's what i mean when i say im bias atleast i admit it. but well see what peoples predictions are tomorrow
2018-01-14 09:29
People either support Cloud9 or make them out top be that they're on the same level as Flipside. Phoey's just as biased as everyone else is.
2018-01-14 13:23
Ya pretty sure they have the most amount of haters lol. I don't really get it cause it's not like they have a kng type personality on the team
2018-01-14 19:57
People don't like NA being competitive as their teams start getting memed
2018-01-14 22:26
C9 used to be my fav team. But i got no love for this new C9.
2018-01-15 06:32
Yea shroud and n0thing were both cool : / But a worser team sadly
2018-01-15 07:10
Sgares, freak, shroud, nothing and ska
2018-01-15 09:02
also look at their past encounters
2018-01-14 09:33
Denmark johankhs 
c9 only won a very close bo3 while both teams had their current lineups
2018-01-14 11:42
well as i have said multiple times i think this will be a close game
2018-01-14 11:43
oskar | 
Czech Republic reka20 
The same guess , but still im the MOuz fan <3
2018-01-14 13:01
2018-01-14 09:01
Denmark Twick_ 
Yes please
2018-01-14 13:16
Petra | 
Netherlands taorus 
2018-01-15 00:34
Denmark Twick_ 
Sad for oskarsports
2018-01-15 06:54
Petra | 
Netherlands taorus 
yes, hopefully they come back today
2018-01-15 09:47
Denmark Twick_ 
2-2 :/
2018-01-16 07:45
United States Venom_ 
2018-01-14 09:03
I think mouz is better overall but the matchup is slightly better for C9.
2018-01-14 09:07
Australia weapon_ 
Will be close.. if not mouz to over run like they done to navi 16-2..
2018-01-14 09:07
Ukraine beaztoff 
Mouz win
2018-01-14 09:09
! yung stuw !
2018-01-14 09:10
really depends on oskarsports, their peak is godlike but their usual performances are below c9's
2018-01-14 09:12
Denmark oskarsports 
2018-01-14 10:43
2018-01-14 11:11
Denmark oskarsports 
Why friend :(
2018-01-14 11:12
because old mc donalds had a farm
2018-01-14 11:12
Denmark oskarsports 
Are u chrisJ?
2018-01-14 11:13
2018-01-14 11:13
Denmark Twick_ 
Good name
2018-01-14 13:17
dennis | 
Slovakia Jarci 
imo over 26.5 is the best bet for this match
2018-01-14 09:23
rain | 
Hong Kong lonely123 
2018-01-14 09:24
Romania skymeisteRr 
ez for god oskar
2018-01-14 09:24
Bump !:))
2018-01-14 09:30
Should be close but my favourite is Cloud9
2018-01-14 09:32
2018-01-14 09:49
Germany cartii 
close game 16-13 for mouz
2018-01-14 09:50
atleast they kicked legija like u ask
2018-01-14 09:54
France Gneronimot 
Made my day
2018-01-14 10:33
Czech Republic DJachym 
ez Oskar
2018-01-14 09:52
it depends on what the map is. seeing that mouz did so well on mirage yesterday c9 might want to avoid it, even though they like playing it. but mouz will probably win
2018-01-14 09:53
I think map maybe inferno unless mouz avoid it (hopefully they do) or cobble but if mirage mouz win 100%
2018-01-14 09:58
nvm C9 is one of the best teams on mirage, (I know mouz is as well)
2018-01-14 10:34
Eh not really they are good on Mirage but not one of the best
2018-01-14 10:37 well if that mouz isn't good on it either and head-to-head
2018-01-14 11:55
c9 best on train actually
2018-01-14 17:37
yeah but they are also very good on mirage
2018-01-14 17:46
Canada 2jfr 
50/50 close game, mb will be overtimes or 16-14
2018-01-14 10:00
liazz | 
Poland n1xyyy 
i think c9 will win
2018-01-14 10:02
nyte | 
Estonia MeX7 
2018-01-14 10:02
This is probably the best match up since day 1 lol. But Id favor c9 because of there map pool
2018-01-14 10:05
what was best matchup day 1?
2018-01-14 10:31
faze v liquid
2018-01-14 10:36
Ah you mean by the actual gameplay not on Paper haha who knows maybe mouz stomp c9 16/9 or c9 stomp them
2018-01-14 10:37
MIrage close, Train c9, Inferno mouz, cobble c9, cache close, both most logical maps
2018-01-14 17:49
Agreed except cobble is 50:50 anyway map maybe train if mouz fuck up
2018-01-14 18:51
60/40 Mouz
2018-01-14 10:17
65/35 mouz.
2018-01-14 10:20
lmao ok
2018-01-14 10:44
"<3 skadoodle"
2018-01-14 10:48
mouse couldn't even beat c9 in 2017 with n0thing and shroud. they literally haven't beaten c9 since 2016. but you think they have a better chance with c9s stronger roster. delusional lul
2018-01-14 10:50
They are much better now. What have c9 achieved in 2017 with tarik and rush ? Lul maybe a great choke against astralis in Eleague premier. This mouz is better than your c9.
2018-01-14 10:56
um, more than anything mouseports did? they joined c9 at the end of 2017 lol. so you are saying mousesports improved and c9 obviously have a better roster. how does that give mouse an advantage when they still haven't beaten them since 2016 lol. pure bias and delusion if you honestly give them a 65/35 odds. literally nothing to back up those predictions
2018-01-14 10:59
C9 does not have better roster than before imo Rush brought nothing to team unless he is the captain which I believe stewie is
2018-01-14 11:02
but they do. tarik & rush>n0thing easily and shroud is just not a LAN player. i would bet if we looked into it rush' stats they are basically the same as shrouds. tariks are certainly gonna be better. so yes it's a better roster
2018-01-14 11:04
Shroud and Nothing more impactful or atleast at the end of their time on the team anyway i don't really care about c9 they will probably not be top 10 team only on
2018-01-14 11:05
so only on the official ranking and not the one in your head. got it
2018-01-14 11:06
idk why you fangay so much for them and you get upset when people have another opinion just let the game go and have fun. At the end of the day this is just a video game that these kids play and make good money there is no skill that is incorporated into this game just kids getting lucky with big companies.
2018-01-14 11:08
the guys comment "65/35" for mouse is just retarded and there is nothing to back it up lol
2018-01-14 11:09
65/35 is overestimation but I would say that it is if skadoodle miss shots and if ropz and oskar insane
2018-01-14 11:10
i agree i think itll come down to who's hotter, ska or oskar. should be agood game
2018-01-14 11:17
imo oskar >>> skadoodle ropz > RUSH SUNNY > tarik chrisJ < stewie2k STYKO =(<) autimatic mouz has been looking more solid with team work and structure, their aim is also better than c9. Tarik is the best aimer in C9, but loses to SUNNY in his current form.
2018-01-14 11:33
i feel like oskar and ska are equal i would place them tied for 6th in awp ranking too hard to decide. they both have great games they both have shit games. i think this game will actually come down to which awper plays better. too early to judge if ropz is better than rush i think and i honestly don't know much about sunny so can't say
2018-01-14 11:35
well i rate oskar as top 3 awper... but will be good match for sure.
2018-01-14 11:37
damn well my opinoin 1. s1mple 2. FALLEN 3. kenny 4. device 5. guardian who do you put oskar ahead of?
2018-01-14 11:39
Guardian is ahead, and oskar is better or equal to s1mple, kennyS and Fallen. KennyS at his best is top 1, but he has been so inconsistent, more hit or miss than oskar tbh. Device we haven't seen in a while. Skadoodle is in tier 2 after these awpers.
2018-01-14 11:44
i dont get why tier 1 awpers are cut off after this but w/e lol
2018-01-14 11:45
bcs there is a gap in performance, skill and impact
2018-01-14 11:46
so basically the top 6 awpers in world on your list are tier 1 then ska who is 7th i presume is tier 2?
2018-01-14 11:48
well not absolutely 7th, but in same league with mou, kng, draken, maybe allu, JW(current form?), and some secondary awpers like shox and coldzera. But that's just my list.
2018-01-14 11:51
well i disagree but atleast this didn't turn into a flame fest like most kids do on this site. glhf with the match today
2018-01-14 11:54
haha yes, glhf
2018-01-14 11:56
Denmark johankhs 
device is no longer awping and s1mple just started the role so I would put oskar over them.
2018-01-14 11:54
you're right but im just going by what i've seen in the past 5 months or so i guess
2018-01-14 11:55
Mousesports recent LANs 2nd ECS Season 4 Finals (only losing to FaZe) 2nd Dreamhack Open Winter 3rd at DreamHack Open Denver 1st at ROG MASTERS 2017 EMEA Finals (easy field but Gambit in the final) 1st at ESG Tour Mykonos 2017 And then have a look at C9 and say "more than anything mousesports did" again ;) I'd say it's 50:50. Kind of depends on the map who I would give an advantage to.
2018-01-14 11:16
if they had a better season than c9 don't you think - 1, they would of beaten c9 atleast once. 2, they would be higher ranked on any ranking not just hltv
2018-01-14 11:20
I am trying to tell you they had a very similar season my dude ;) That's why it's 50:50 for me.
2018-01-14 12:39
ok then i agree my friend should be a good game GLHF :) i think it will be very close or either team will have a shit game and get run over like 16-7
2018-01-14 12:42
very possible indeed :D I am just hoping for great games. both will qualify anyway.
2018-01-14 12:48
you do know that that only show good lans and even if not, 3 t2 lans and one where they beat, lg optic, and astralis with a stand-in
2018-01-14 18:54
are you retarded, Rush has changed his role and has been one of the best players so far
2018-01-14 11:49
No sadly you retarded by far he is not one of the best players on c9 and just look at his stats very underwhelming for top American team
2018-01-14 18:55
overwhelming for a support/entry player, retard
2018-01-14 18:58
xD not really bro I don’t know why you ducking his dick sorry that you mad, retard
2018-01-14 19:00
by your logic styko hasn't brought anything to mouz?
2018-01-14 19:00
Yes styko was useless pickup
2018-01-14 19:11
he wasn't though because he helps chrisj a lot with being an igl
2018-01-14 21:03
chrisj is godj ! name him good and well by his name
2018-01-14 21:31
maybe OnlineJ?
2018-01-14 21:32
look at the last 2 matches he played :))
2018-01-14 21:34
just joking bro, altough we disaggree on a lot Gl vs C9
2018-01-14 21:36
agreed its just videogame at the end of the day
2018-01-14 21:38
Ga wp
2018-01-15 08:34
ECS s4 finals , ESG Win. And c9 ? DH denver win ? lmao this isnt 2016 mouz its 2018 and this mouz > c9
2018-01-14 11:09
i guess hltv forgot to account for those wins and they never got credit cause it looks like they are sitting at rank 8 where c9 is 5th. but lets forget about ranks and just compare their heads up matches. oh wait they haven't beaten c9 since 2016. hmmmmm. but ima give mousesports 65% win chance cause that makes sense! delusional
2018-01-14 11:14
As i said what has c9 achieved with rush and tarik ? Nothing against tier 1. You are delusional if you think mouz is worse but then again "<3 Skadoodle" So your credibility is limited. So mouz has achieved more, looks better at this point but somehow im delusional to think that they are better ? Well when c9 gets to the finals of ecs and win a tournament then call me delusional. C9 < Mouz
2018-01-14 11:19
gee idk why i would think they are worse than c9. could it be every csgo websites ranking of teams and c9 being higher on all or just the fact mousesports hasn't beaten c9 since 2016? not quite sure which leads me to that opinion. the fact is this will be a close game. but 65/35 towards mousesports is PURE bias lol
2018-01-14 11:22
Maybe because C9 has a lot of games in Na region where 90% of teams suck and gives c9 better "form" rating ? All im looking is lans and for me online is irellevant but guess what C9 couldnt qualify for EPL S6 anyway so in reality they aren't better in anything than mouz. Also oskar made top 20 list while C9 players were outside of that. And last time they played it was a really close b03 but after that mousesports had improved and had much better results. Dunno you seem retarded man.
2018-01-14 11:24
i mean you know you are bias as fuck but can't admit it. i admit i am bias but i atleast try to be reasonable about it. lets just chill and enjoy some cs today
2018-01-14 11:26
You are not reasonable at all. And i root for c9 too. But c9's achievments compared to mouz is not even comparable.
2018-01-14 11:26
i was saying i think its 60/40 for c9. maybe 55/45. i'm guessing the analysts/casters will agree
2018-01-14 11:28
Lmao 60/40 C9 xdd. Alright have a good day done talking to you...
2018-01-14 11:30
lol lets give the odds to the other team that hasn't beaten the other team in over a year
2018-01-14 11:32
I just looked at their form and this time i was wrong. What have c9 achieved in 2017 with rush and tarik ? 3-4 in Eleague premier with a huge choke in map 2 semis ?
2018-01-15 17:06
Lul we've seen in DH semfinal how better mouz is. Cloud9 and destroyed them in a final easily. But yes mouz is better because mr ecofox says so lul
2018-01-14 11:27
"<3 Stewie2K" Where was C9 in ECS S4 ? Oh out of groups and lost 2-0 to faze when Mousesports made it to overtime of the final map against faze and faze is a much better team than C9.
2018-01-14 11:27
That doesn't prove that mouz is better since cloud9 destroyed them lul
2018-01-14 11:28
that happened 3 months ago lul. Relevant fam. And also "<3 Stewie2K" totally not biased. Lmao
2018-01-14 11:29
Lul biased or not cloud9 was, is and will be forever better than mouz. Mouz wasn't ever a relevant team. You're just mad because c9 will crush them but it's ok
2018-01-14 11:32
yeah and what was the group was mouz in?, oh yeah the worst one, still got second and got lucky astralis finished first, so they didn't beat any tier1 team so?...
2018-01-14 11:51
What c9 did against faze ? and what mouz did ? /closed
2018-01-14 12:27
So faze has a stylistic advantage
2018-01-14 12:58
2018-01-14 13:09
Nice prediction bro you were right mouz will win xddddd. Just like the last time, too ez for Cloud9 against this lil bitches. C9>mouz and as you already know, cry is free
2018-01-15 01:18
Lmao waited for the match to end to comment lol. Sure C9 won but honestly they looked best with this lineup by far so they atleast hit their new peak. That shit will probably be inconsistent.
2018-01-15 05:49
But they haven't been inconsistent since the making of this roster
2018-01-15 08:36
Haha more excuses. Mouz disband
2018-01-15 12:32
Ill wait till C9 wins something with tier 1 competition.
2018-01-15 16:04
Mouz didn't win shit against tier1 lul
2018-01-15 20:17
Germany XRippeR 
2018-01-15 10:17
omegalul ur shit tier analysis can sleep in garbage now
2018-01-15 09:12
Name checks out lul. Mouz achievments > C9 achievments.
2018-01-15 15:16
Oh no did you get told that you're incorrect on the internet so you have to make a shit tier comeback for your shit tier analysis
2018-01-15 16:37
I make shit analysis and you are only confident to speak when something already happens. Virgin dont yap your mouth here and be quiet.
2018-01-15 21:56
reeeeee i have no comebacks so I'll call him a virgin reeeeeeeeeeee Go back to potato farming, peasant.
2018-01-15 22:45
Reeeee ? Is that some sorth of autistic screeching? Btw expected from c9 fanboy.
2018-01-16 09:40
c9 iz good
2018-01-14 10:44
Denmark oskarsports 
99/1 mouz
2018-01-14 10:44
XeqtR | 
Hong Kong wqnxy1 
stewie to drop 35bombs EZ monkaS
2018-01-14 11:06
c9's gonna win
2018-01-14 11:07
FalleN | 
France nyygma 
I love C9 but MOUZ looks really SOLID
2018-01-14 11:12
feeling a close game. gon be good
2018-01-14 11:23
will be easy for c9
2018-01-14 11:14
disagreed !
2018-01-14 11:19
Hè was right lmao
2018-01-15 09:57
yea not suprised when i saw train i think mouz throw to hide strats but i hope they go 2-3 and some shit team gets 100theives spot xD
2018-01-15 10:07
2018-01-15 10:51
Iceland Joozy 
Going to be a close game but I myself would go for C9
2018-01-14 11:15
C9 will crush those scrubs like they did in dh semifinal
2018-01-14 11:29
2018-01-14 11:40
Open game, every outcome possible Would not bet.
2018-01-14 11:47
c9 16-7 noodle brain drops 30k
2018-01-14 11:53
Czech Republic StuartX 
idk who's gonna win . C9 looks strong
2018-01-14 12:28
i will bet fooking 5000$ on mouz ! lets fuck fat AMERIKOSOV
2018-01-14 12:45
Let’s go bro :))
2018-01-14 19:00
Want to talk on discord when match happens?
2018-01-14 20:18
dont have discord , ty for support
2018-01-14 21:31
wondering where you from?
2018-01-14 21:34
2018-01-14 22:00
Ah nice good luick hope we win !
2018-01-14 22:10
2018-01-14 23:10
shame retard mouz pick train
2018-01-15 01:21
FUCk my life bro...
2018-01-15 17:53
Bulgaria _Hattrick_ 
mouz will win
2018-01-14 12:51
This will be the most thrilling game today
2018-01-14 12:52
Russia alexgone 
ropz is on fire 1:00 70/30 for mouz
2018-01-14 13:03
Canada Timings 
It is literally 50/50.
2018-01-14 13:21
as a mouz fan i say: navi looked clueless. i dont think that match should be counted so much in favor of how the constituion and strength of mousesports is right now. their opening game however was weak, especially in the beginning. despite the win id take that into consideration. i hope for mouz and i think its in the realm of possibilities that they wiin this, even decisively, but c9 looks sharp. a few mistakes (like the ongoing forcing battle thing they tend to do when they start with 0-3 or 0-5) and it easily could go south. especially ska looked on point more than once in the last matches.
2018-01-14 13:23
Didn’t watch that match but also envyus match shouldn’t be counted because envyus are not good team and did their usual mistakes vs c9 xD
2018-01-14 18:56
good point. hoping for the best! :D
2018-01-14 23:14
2018-01-14 14:20 aanother easy knife for stewieeeeee
2018-01-14 14:49
Bangladesh N0SP4C3 
Depends on the map IMO
2018-01-14 17:49
United States ARKTYC 
Exactly. They are two great teams!
2018-01-14 18:52
Israel TheLoveGuy 
mouz from a c9 fan
2018-01-14 17:51
United States ARKTYC 
I really don't know. They are both 2 great teams but the map can define the winner. However, I bet it will be a very good match to watcha and it will have a tight score gap!
2018-01-14 18:54
i think it depends on the map, but i guess C9 have slightly a better chance because they can choose either T or CT, but despite that all its going to be really close. I think the veto will go like this: 1. mouz removed Train 2. mouz removed Cache 3. c9 removed Nuke 4. c9 removed Mirage 5. c9 removed Inferno 6. mouz removed Cobblestone 7. was left over Overpass
2018-01-14 19:02
I think if mouz fuck up train can be the map or something like cobble
2018-01-14 19:20
true, but i dont think they will do that mistake; i truly think they will go to the map C9 least play which overpass, and maybe c9 doesnt ban inferno and instead ban overpass, i think it will be inferno.
2018-01-14 19:39
Yes and if it is it will be more interesting on there
2018-01-14 19:42
wow these retards picked train gg
2018-01-15 00:33
Idk what say, like how did they figure that out Makes no sense Anyway gg thank u whoever picked train lol
2018-01-15 01:17
mouz imho will win..
2018-01-14 19:21
nice england you drunk vodka
2018-01-14 22:29
"Mouz in my honest opinion will win" Great english you idiot.
2018-01-15 01:25
Sweden zZzlatan 
2018-01-14 22:28
bet mouz c9 overrated trash
2018-01-14 22:30
retard mouz picked train so dumb
2018-01-15 00:33
Professional HLTV retard?
2018-01-15 01:23
Germany r4jzN 
2018-01-15 06:57
mirage mouz nuke mouz inferno idk will be close train c9 cobble c9 overpass idk will be close
2018-01-14 22:31
c9 ct side on train damn c9 gotta win
2018-01-15 00:34
United States mook_ 
train = 65/35 c9 but mouz obviously must know what they are doing by picking train against c9 and might have something up their sleeve
2018-01-15 00:37
nope they just autistic
2018-01-15 01:21
United States mook_ 
yea i see that now xd
2018-01-15 01:22
Ofcourse mouz win why even question them?
2018-01-15 07:12
Cause they lost?
2018-01-15 08:36
Favourite team checks out
2018-01-15 15:35
2018-01-15 15:52
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