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coldzera #1 CSGO all-time
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Brazil seltinn1 
2x consecutive mvp major winner, no other player did it 2x consecutive top1 hltv, only get right did it no one tournament with rating negative, no other player (tier 1/2) have it so undoubtedly coldzera is the best CSGO player ever and one of the best players in CS history
2018-01-17 20:53
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World 1Marc 
He need to continue in this way to be the GOAT of CS:GO, imo. But he is close.
2018-01-17 20:56
what? He already is the GOAT, tell me one thing that gtr achieved and coldzera didnt. (and please dont say the 87-0 because that was nip and it was vs amateurs).
2018-01-17 21:02
#5
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Austria dinomen 
clearly he isn't yet! but if this year he continues his performance, then 3 years in a row with good performance then will be the goat, you bronzilians are like faze fans who only they actually believe that niko would be top1 so you guys are the same...
2018-01-17 21:03
???? If he isnt who is the goat then?
2018-01-17 21:03
#16
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United Kingdom StigOHara 
gtr
2018-01-17 21:23
based on what? coldzera achieved more than gtr. nice goat you have there, that never was a MVP major. coldzera is #1 in the most competitve era of CSGO, while gtr was #1 vs amateurs. Tell me what GTR has and coldzera doesnt. Im waiting.
2018-01-17 21:24
#19
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United Kingdom StigOHara 
amateurs? wtf The game was competitive around Copenhagen games 2013. More major finals, played alot longer than cold, more hltv top placing. Overall grt has achieved more than cold.
2018-01-17 21:26
HAHAHAHAHAHA ok. 2013 competitive? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH Put any top10 team of 2017 there and lets see what would happen LOL. Just because he played more time doesnt mean he was better. Made major finals and what? LOST.
2018-01-17 21:29
#24
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United Kingdom StigOHara 
Thats some shit logic if I've seem one. Thats like saying SK.sw wasn't a good team in 2003 if you point fantic 2009 and see what happens. 5 major finals and 1 won, thats impressive who cares if they lost? its the streak what is impressive. More than cold btw shut up faggot kid
2018-01-17 21:31
lmao ok delusional european. Keep thinking that a guy who is a trashcan is the GOAT. coldzera: 2x Major MVPs 8 MVPs overall Never had any negative rating #1 in the most competitive time of CSGO. GTR: 0 Major MVPs Cant qualify for a major 4 times in a row HAHAHAHA Trash in the most competitive time of CSGO (hmmm why? :thinking:)
2018-01-17 21:37
#58
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Norway NitroMK 
What about the most competetive time of CS in general? GeT_RiGhT is one of the best players in both versions of the game, and the fact that hes been this good for 10 years now is really impressive.
2018-01-17 22:16
GOAT OF CSGO. All other iterations of CS are irrelevant to this discussion
2018-01-17 22:43
The reason CS in 2013 wasn't competitive is bc nip were miles ahead of all competition. saying nip was way ahead of everyone else, thus the scene wasn't competitive and nip's achievements don't matter as much is some circular reasoning if i've ever seen it. it's not like all the other cs players in that time were helpless children whereas they now suddenly have the chance to prove themselves. nip were just way better, end of story. having said that, i think right now GTR and Coldzera share the GOAT title in CSGO, but given a few more months of good performances (which is very likely for coldzera) there's no doubt cold is #1. just calling you out on your illogical argument
2018-01-17 22:48
Maybe nip were dominant because all the other teams were fucking trash. Also, I wonder what would happen if any top5 team from 2017 (somehow teleported back to the past) and played in 2013 hmmm
2018-01-17 22:51
#109
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Sweden jesseb1w0w 
U monkeys obviously don't have any brain. Why do u always use your '' cs was not competitive '' card. I can then probably say that mibr back in the old days was fucking load of shit=D
2018-01-17 23:42
lmao swede mad because trash
2018-01-17 23:53
#91
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United States STERBENVII 
NiP was formed right as CS:GO came out, meaning that they already had preparation coming into the game. In the early part of CS:GO, NiP set the meta and tempo with their own plays, while every other team struggled to figure out how to play the game as a team and how the meta worked. Nobody really believed in CS:GO's success but NiP and VG, which was why they were the 2 best teams in the world at that time. The skill cap was also a lot lower at that time, meaning that GTR could smash the opposition very easily. Now, in 2016 and 2017, in an environment where every team works 8+ hours a day, an environment where every player is more skilled than 2012 GTR, coldzera is able to show his dominance over every player with his AWPing, rifling, and pistoling abilities, along with himself being a support player and a great clutcher. It's very hard to exactly pinpoint who was the GOAT of CS:GO, but I believe it to be coldzera for those reasons. Maybe it is GTR, idk.
2018-01-17 23:14
+1, but definitely cold when it comes to csgo
2018-01-18 01:14
You made your argument void by comparing skill from 2 different eras and made it even more void by saying every player (I assume t1 players) even though the current “best” player is less skilled then almost everyone in the top 20. Cold also dominated in a time of very low competition because all the best teams from 2015 had deteriorated and now teams like Liquid were making major semis and finals. 2013 and 2014 were far more competitive. Gtr >>>>>> Botzera
2018-01-18 03:04
Only 2012 has be less competitive then 2016/17. The most competitive year by far was 2015 delusional newfag btw GTR>Coldzera and f0rest>coldzera
2018-01-18 00:51
forest? wtf if you're talking about cs 1.6 it can be true gtr really was dominant from 12-14 but then he's just gone if coldzera plays just some months as he's been doing, it'll be hard to find someone better than him stop trashtalking little kid
2018-01-18 01:53
#201
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Brazil SUVAKO 
name checks out
2018-01-18 13:40
I bet my ass you haven’t played 1.6 or earlier versions of the game in your life. Still you did a lot of research just to prove this guy he is wrong bringing 1.6 stats when clearly he claiming cold as #1 CSGO player XDDD fucking nerd get a life XDD
2018-01-17 23:00
Holy crap that's the worst logic I've ever fucking seen on hltv and that says alot
2018-01-17 21:39
What is the best logic then? Tell me one thing gtr has and cold doesnt, im waiting Its okay tho, you can say gtr was #1 2x, and coldzera #1 1x. You can have your GTR goat until tomorrow.
2018-01-17 21:42
"Name a better duo I'll wait" lol, anyway these meaningless fucking hltv top20 are no arguement for someone to be better than another, and I don't give a shit about gtr nor cold, to me they're both just losers playing a video game for a living, but your logic is fucking horrible, (Which is what I commented on)
2018-01-17 21:47
Then why are you here fucking retard
2018-01-17 21:49
I like CS and betting.
2018-01-17 21:49
So you are a loser too?
2018-01-17 21:49
Yea.. no I don't play CS 10 fucking hours a day, you might be the reason brazilians are called "Monkeys"
2018-01-17 21:50
#52
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Brazil potat 
its like ur saying ur better than them cuz they play games for living. ur an asshole
2018-01-17 22:05
Yeah true, I probably used the wrong words, let's call them something less degrading like nerds
2018-01-17 22:10
#207
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Brazil potat 
yeah, 2018 man
2018-01-18 17:08
5 major finals in a row
2018-01-18 00:47
still a loser. I would choose 2 Major wins over 1 major win and 5 finals.
2018-01-18 00:49
5 major finals is still very impressive
2018-01-18 00:50
I never said it wasnt. I would rather win 1 more time than lose 5 times, but thats my opinion.
2018-01-18 00:53
There was less competition when cold won however
2018-01-18 01:05
hahahah sure. And in 2013/2014 the competition was at its prime right? LUL
2018-01-18 01:07
Certainly more competitive then 16/17
2018-01-18 01:09
lol ok. Good night.
2018-01-18 01:09
He is right you know. I think goat is f0rest in all cs versions, even css. But saying 17/16 was more competative than 13/14/15 is quite stupid. End or middle of 17 was good tho.
2018-01-18 13:24
2013 wasn't competitive? Obviously you only started watching csgo on 2016 Don't say shit you don't know about
2018-01-17 22:43
Yea sure, 2013 was more competitive than 2016 and 2017 LMAO
2018-01-17 22:44
The point is that trying to compare them makes you look retarded. You can't compare them - there's no objective way to evaluate an entire scene's skill level over time. The very act of doing so is *subjective*, and thus, whenever you use it as the crux of your argument, it undermines said argument. All you can do is compare within the same 'era' if you want objectivity - and it is an insult to your own intelligence to deny that GTR was the most dominant player for the longest amount of time in GO history. That's all you can literally say without factoring in your own personal opinion or bias. So based on that, GTR is (for now) still #1.
2018-01-17 22:53
Alright, ignore all the comparison between years. Now gtr most dominant player? #1 2x (2013,2014); cold #1 2x (2016,2017). Why are the 2 years for gtr more important than cold's? And you talk about my bias like you dont have any.
2018-01-17 22:56
I have bias, but if I let it get in the way of my argument I'd say olof was #1 of all time. But since I base my arguments on objectivity and not subjectivity, GTR has the most evidence to support a claim for the title of 'GOAT'. I'm not going to discuss about a HLTV ranking, because that is absurd and proves nothing (if you want my opinion, flusha actually deserved the #1 spot in 2014). The point is that GTR has the most achievements, tournaments and titles won, and overall performance throughout history. He is definitely not the player he was now, and nobody sane should be talking about GTR contending for the title of 'best player in the world' in 2018, but his past achievements were so great that he can still ride off them for a little longer, at least until somebody else catches up.
2018-01-17 23:00
"But since I base my arguments on objectivity and not subjectivity" >Ignores the best source with proof of stats. by the way, how can you say he was the most dominant player of CSGO if you dont even think he was the #1 in 2014? cold 2x Major MVPs, 8 MVPs overall, never had any negative rating. And gtr?
2018-01-17 23:03
Okay, you want to see what GTR accomplished in GO? 1st - Sound Blaster CS:GO Challenge 2012 1st - Steelseries GO 1st - DreamHack Valencia 2012 1st - ESWC 2012 1st - DreamHack Winter 2012 1st - AMD Sapphire Invitational 1st - Thor Open 2012 1st - NorthCon eSport Arena 2012 1st - ESL Major Series Winter 2012 1st - Fnatic FragOut League Season 1 1st - eSports Heaven: Vienna 1st - TECHLABS Cup 13 Moscow 1st - Copenhagen Games 2013 1st - ESL Major Series Spring 2013 1st - ESEA Global Finals Season 13 1st - ESL Major Series Summer 2013 1st - ESPORTSM 2012/2013 1st - Starladder Series VI 1st - DreamHack Summer 2013 1st - ESEA Global Finals Season 14 1st - FACEIT Cup August 2013 1st - DreamHack Bucharest 2013 1st - Fragbite Masters Season 1 1st - Svecup Finals 1st - Copenhagen Games 2014 1st - Mikz Esport Challenge 1st - DreamHack Summer 2014 1st - ESL One Cologne 2014 1st - Fragbite Masters Season 3 2nd - DreamHack Winter 2014 2nd - MLG XGames 1st - Assembly Winter 2015 2nd - ESL Katowice 2015 2nd - Gfinity Spring Masters 1 2nd - StarLadder StarSeries XII 2nd - FACEIT CS:GO Finals 2015 1st - CEVO Season 7 2nd - Gfinity Masters Summer 1 3rd - ESL Pro League Invitational 2015 3rd - Gfinity Champion of Champions 3-4th - DreamHack Open Cluj-Napoca 2015 2nd - Fragbite Masters Season 5 That's a comprehensive list of every big (or what was considered big, at the time) tournament that GTR has won or placed top 3 in, BEFORE the start of 2016. He has clearly won more and earned more prestige from doing so. As for individual stats? GTR's rating 1.0 at the start of 2015 was higher than coldzera's rating 2.0 now. I am absolutely not trying to claim that *right now*, GTR can compete with coldzera for the title of #1, nobody sane should be making that argument. But his historical achievements and legacy of winning within the game is enough to solidify him as the best in the game's history - at least until cold catches up on winning things. And tournament results are the only objective argument you can make for how well a player is performing - an argument such as "look at his aim it sucks" blabla just simply isn't sufficient.
2018-01-18 13:33
You forgot to mention that gtr was also one of the best ever in 1.6f
2018-01-18 01:07
I'm pretty sure he's only talking about GO, but you're right - he was absolutely amazing in 1.6 too.
2018-01-18 13:36
you act like every other team besides NiP were amateurs when it wasn't the case you need to understand there were very good teams but gtr and NiP were just to good to be beaten
2018-01-17 23:48
Ok sure, doesnt change the fact that coldzera achieved more. And in a more competitve era, if you cant acknowledge that we are in the most competitve era of CSGO, im wasting my time with you.
2018-01-17 23:53
different times, different teams, different playstyles we could argue about this all day we would never reach an agreement
2018-01-17 23:55
Ok bye then
2018-01-17 23:55
#196
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Austria dinomen 
its not like coldzera come to the scene and started beating everyone! games were competitive back then, that's why your godzera got rekt by fnatic 16-0
2018-01-18 12:52
coldzera 2 major mvp against liquid and shit navi... pls shut up delusional
2018-01-17 23:15
better than having none.
2018-01-17 23:16
considering he's the 3rd player going in... to me and to everybody should be better fer 3rd being entry fragger than cold 1st being the type of player he is
2018-01-17 23:17
wait what?
2018-01-17 23:17
Coldzera 1st player hltv - lurker Fer 3rd player hltv - entry What fer did is amazing, it's rare to have an entry fragger be this good
2018-01-17 23:24
Oh for sure, his timing is amazing
2018-01-17 23:30
#7
World 1Marc 
I think that they are in the same point right now, with some advantage to cold. But to say 'yes, he is the goat', to break the barrier between him and GR, he need a bit more. Maybe one more major? And Im not a Fan of NiP/Get.
2018-01-17 21:05
????? Dude coldzera already surpassed gtr. >cold 2 major MVP x GTR 0 >cold never had any negative rating >coldzera 8 MVPs in his career the only thing was that gtr had over cold was#1 2x and now cold achieved that too. Also keep in mind that get right was #1 vs amateurs, and coldzera is #1 in the most competitive time of CSGO. Tell me what GTR has and coldzera doesnt. im waiting.
2018-01-17 21:22
#60
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Norway NitroMK 
If cold is this good for about 10 years then sure.
2018-01-17 22:18
LUL why 10?
2018-01-17 22:22
#157
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Germany XRippeR 
because gtr was a beast for at least 7-8 years.
2018-01-18 01:08
But I thought CSGO was released in 2012 :thinking:
2018-01-18 01:09
#161
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Germany XRippeR 
gtr has a chrons disease since 2016. And he was always consistent until then. And it was not against amateurs at all. 2014 was competitive as fuck. Are you saying Kabum was amateur(fallen,steel,boltz,fer) because they were getting raped in their ass
2018-01-18 01:11
He has a disease so what? He should get special treatment?. 2013 only amateurs played. 2014 was more competitive I agree; Kabum was a tier 2-3 team because their players were just starting to grow.
2018-01-18 01:15
#108
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Sweden Rexz 
I agree that coldzera is the GOAT in csgo BUT you can't deny that GeT_RiGhT is the second, he has always been a great player maybe not this year but no other player can reach his and coldzera history in csgo
2018-01-17 23:41
Of course, gtr was the GOAT but now that cold got the #1 2x times in a row, he surpassed gtr
2018-01-17 23:44
Gtr #1 years were better, and top 20 for 4 years straight Overall gtr>>>cold, maybe in the future cold will surpass him And Im sorry if you didnt watch csgo before brazil won anything but your recency bias doesnt matter.
2018-01-18 00:57
Quality> Quantity
2018-01-18 00:58
Is something like this that I was talking about. Cold is for me the GOAT, but for everyone recognize this, 'ohh okay, cold is bigger than GTR' he needs a bit more. Off course If he keeps his performances in 2018, he will be #1 again and, everyone will need to Just shut up and accept that cold is #1 of all time.
2018-01-18 21:27
2015/2016 olof > cold
2018-01-18 00:55
2016 olof was a bot after kato
2018-01-18 00:57
#11
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Brazil Heus 
he is the goat, no one in the history of cs beat him
2018-01-17 21:10
#162
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Germany XRippeR 
cs go*
2018-01-18 01:13
Yes, in CS:GO. All time i'd say f0rest or NEO since 1.6 they were untouchable and coldzera only for 2 or 2.5 years (not trying to undermine his skill, he's still the best player of CS:GO)
2018-01-17 23:33
#2
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Brazil seltinn1 
bump
2018-01-17 20:56
#3
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Brazil fallenzeraSK 
Yes cry is free
2018-01-17 20:57
#8
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Estonia mySSq 
cya in 10 years poor brazilian
2018-01-17 21:05
i actually think he's the best csgo player so far.
2018-01-17 21:08
#10
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
Coldzera only started playing the game in 2016. Two years of being the worlds best doesn't equate to "BOAT". This is your opinion to be respected, not fact. Have a good day.
2018-01-17 21:10
#17
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United Kingdom StigOHara 
He start playing around summer 2015 wtf are you talking about
2018-01-17 21:24
#50
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
True, but he was only the "best player" in 2016 onward.
2018-01-17 22:01
He started playing in 2015 retard. Also achieved more than GTR in less time. You count when coldzera didnt play, but you seem to not count when GTR was/IS fucking trash. tell me what gtr has and coldzera doesnt. Im waiting.
2018-01-17 21:26
starseries title 5 time major finalist
2018-01-17 21:42
what is starseries? A tier1 tournament? major finalist lmao, still lost, doesnt matter if you lose in the quarters or in the finals, you are still a loser. 2x winning a major > 1x time winning a major and being 5 times in a final. And keep in mind that we had 3 majors a year, since 2016 we only have 2.
2018-01-17 21:45
you know damn well if SK made it to a 3rd or 4th major final and lost, you would include it in your argument you thick-headed brazilian fuck.
2018-01-18 02:04
Yea sure, because you are a prophet and knows everything that could/will happen right?
2018-01-18 02:06
Yeah, because you retards are all the same.
2018-01-18 02:07
Sure, then I would say that. And you would say that it doesnt matter because they still lost
2018-01-18 02:10
#186
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Sweden Zae 
pronax 3x major winner
2018-01-18 02:16
And? We were using majors as another "stat" to compare both players.
2018-01-18 02:18
#188
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Sweden Zae 
pronax 3x major winner
2018-01-18 02:23
Yes I know :)
2018-01-18 02:25
#51
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
2012: GTR 2013: GTR 2014: GTR 2015: Olofmeister 2016: Coldzera 2017: Coldzera He may have touched the game in 2015, but my point was he wasn't the worlds best until 2016. Referring to him as the "GOAT/BOAT" is entirely subjective, not fact. He definitely has the accolades, the achievements and simply deserves congratulations obviously. Currently there is no better player in the world currently, but at least keep it respectful and factual.
2018-01-17 22:04
HLTV didnt make a 2012 ranking because the players were switching games. Like I said, coldzera is the GOAT because: 2x Major MVPs 8 MVPs overall Never had any negative rating #1 in the most competitive time of CSGO. Are these facts enough for you?
2018-01-17 22:12
#64
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
There are no "facts" when it comes to overrating a player out of pure subjectivity. I will respect your opinion, but it will remain so. I admire your fanaticism outright as I believe Coldzera is one of the worlds best players in the modern era, but that doesn't make him "GOAT/BOAT", that is subjective. Now what I have stated is "factual". Have a good day.
2018-01-17 22:26
"There are no facts" what is this then? prntscr.com/i1wc0h
2018-01-17 22:38
#124
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
Your opinion. and, it is to be respected as such. Have a good day.
2018-01-18 00:28
What a world it would be if every HLTV user made posts like this.
2018-01-17 22:54
#126
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
Well we can't all be alike and equal, although it truly is a shame in the long run. Anyway - have a wonderful day, friend. ^^
2018-01-18 00:29
#119
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Brazil TopperMan 
He is baiting hard or just too delusional to care about arguments. No point in arguing with him.
2018-01-18 00:02
#125
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
The fact he is attempting to address his opinion as "fact" furthers the premise he is probably baiting. :(
2018-01-18 00:29
#134
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Brazil TopperMan 
Exactly
2018-01-18 00:47
#12
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Russia xtkjdtr01 
true
2018-01-17 21:12
#13
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United Kingdom Zipzin_ 
not yet
2018-01-17 21:15
#14
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Russia ZippSluvik 
GTR: 2013 - #1 2014 - #1 2015 - #11 2016 - #18 2017 - who? cold: 2013 - who? 2014 - who? 2015 - who? 2016 - #1 2017 - #1 LOL cold is not even close to GTR. Maybe 1 year later - yes, but not now
2018-01-17 21:19
#21
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United Kingdom StigOHara 
Don't forget 2010, 2011 rankings
2018-01-17 21:28
#23
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Russia ZippSluvik 
CS:GO only in this case my broda
2018-01-17 21:29
#25
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United Kingdom StigOHara 
Yes because GOD HUNDEN is top1 of all time
2018-01-17 21:33
+1 GOD HUNDEN IS THE TOP1 OF OUR HEARTS
2018-01-17 21:43
+1 <3
2018-01-17 23:17
#30
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Brazil Wow_HG 
Cold from 2015, before that he was not a professional
2018-01-17 21:42
#165
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Germany XRippeR 
so what? he was still playing cs. If he was that good in 2014 for example he would be pro. But maybe he was legendary eagle back then :)
2018-01-18 01:16
#170
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Brazil Wow_HG 
He was good but he was good in Brazil, and at that time the professional here was zero (amateur completely) trained little and played championships online, only the following year Fallen called him and decided to give a chance at Luminosity in less than 1 year and half he was already the best in the world and 2x Major's MVP :)
2018-01-18 01:29
#59
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Europe vasseldomau 
CS GO couldnt be called profissional before 2015. There was such a poor era!!
2018-01-17 22:17
BR CS IN 2013.14.15 IS SO FUCKING TRASH,
2018-01-17 23:36
#193
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Russia ZippSluvik 
That's actually why BR player can't considering a GOAT
2018-01-18 07:06
What cold did in 2-2 1/2 years no one did and will never do.
2018-01-18 21:31
#26
KRIMZ | 
African Union DevLW4LK 
He already surpassed Get_Right & Olof long time ago anyone telling you different is a hater.
2018-01-17 21:34
#28
SPUNJ | 
Czech Republic davskal 
If he's such a great player, why wasn't he owning get right back then? Maybe cause he's too bad lol. Cry more, the best thing that has ever happened to your country - coldzera is only one of many in our eyes, cause we have so much skill, so much achievements, so much trophies. See you next year coldzera, you won't be laughing
2018-01-17 21:36
#34
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Brazil Wow_HG 
2x Major MVPs... Someone else?
2018-01-17 21:43
#37
SPUNJ | 
Czech Republic davskal 
I know people that won the major 3 times, he only did twice and it was 2 years ago and he's not looking like winning any soon, so...
2018-01-17 21:45
#38
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Brazil Wow_HG 
2x Major MVPs... Someone else?
2018-01-17 21:45
#40
SPUNJ | 
Czech Republic davskal 
Yea well obviously you don't have any counter-arguments for my statements, in the end that's what I expected. It's certainly not the first time I'm arguing with a biased fan from the South America.
2018-01-17 21:46
#43
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Brazil Wow_HG 
The question was simple, is there any other player with 2 Majors MVPs? I know there are some 3 Majors, but with 2 Majors MVPs there is only this. Coldzera and nobody else
2018-01-17 21:49
#47
SPUNJ | 
Czech Republic davskal 
How many times did he win the IEM Oakland tournament? Or the StarSeries? That's about the same level of analysis as taking major MVP counts as the metric of someone being the greatest player of all time.
2018-01-17 21:50
#49
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Brazil Wow_HG 
You got into a ridiculous discussion with a toxic fan of Coldzera ... It's different eras ... What Get, Olof and Cold did and are doing, it will hardly be repeated Each one with his own achievements, one with some better than the others ... But to say "coldzera is only one of many in our eyes", becomes stupid as who created this topic
2018-01-17 21:54
#53
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Brazil Wow_HG 
and... I do not know how to use the English words correctly If I offended you, I'm sorry
2018-01-17 22:06
#57
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Europe vasseldomau 
Are you a little retard, retard or completely retard?
2018-01-17 22:15
where is get right in the ranking?
2018-01-17 22:52
#80
SPUNJ | 
Czech Republic davskal 
hltv.org/news/16700/top-20-players-of-20.. Do me a favour and look up coldzera for me please. EDIT: And while you're on it, you may also continue with FalleN, fer, boltz and many more, now celebrated players, but not far in the past players that nobody knew nothing about. You don't become the best of ALL TIME by being hardly #1 for two years, nevermind the competitivity of the scene.
2018-01-17 22:58
did cs start in 2016 ?
2018-01-17 21:44
#39
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Finland Siika 
skAi/heaton cs alltime #1/#2 coldzera #3
2018-01-17 21:45
No, hes not the best yet, he needs to do another year.
2018-01-17 21:54
Why? He already surpassed gtr. 2x Major MVPs 8 MVPs overall Never had any negative rating #1 in the most competitive time of CSGO.
2018-01-17 22:41
no he hasnt surpassed GTR, what do you mean he never had any negative rating>????????
2018-01-17 22:50
Tell me one thing that GTR has and coldzera doesnt. hltv.org/stats/players/events/9216/coldz.. = never had any negative tournament.
2018-01-17 22:53
Get_right has been playing way longer, done way more, and had been a top player since the inclusion of cs go, coldzera has been competitive for about 2 years
2018-01-17 23:34
"top player" gtr in 2016 and 2017 LMAO Just because he played more doesnt mean he is better. Quality>Quantity. Done more? Nice MVP majors that get right has. Nice negative events too :)
2018-01-17 23:35
so i guess 18 in 2016 doesnt make him a top player???? I guess your also forgetting him being top in every other year before that and gtr has also more positive tournaments than Coldzera even has attended tournaments and playing more is not always a positive in this sense, GTR has been around more and is way older than cold
2018-01-18 00:21
Like I said, quality> quantity. #18 is nothing but a disappointment to a player that achieved #1. Nice GOAT you have there that doesnt have a major MVP :)
2018-01-18 00:27
#18 is an achievement for a player who's 10+ years into his career, past his prime, And who was the major MVP for his major win? because he had the highest rating on his team
2018-01-18 00:36
Friberg hltv.org/events/1444/esl-one-cologne-201.. Dude #18 is a disappointment, imagine being #1 for 2 years in a row and then you cant reach top10 (in 2015) and in the next year drop again to #18 and then in 2017 doesnt even enter the top20. When you say TOP PLAYER, at least for me it means top5 player.
2018-01-18 00:41
here let me do some simple math for you Coldzera in top 20: twice Get_right in top 20: 4 times and IDC if YOU think a top 18 is a disapointment, him or his team isnt what it used to be hes past his prime hes not capable of doing the damage that he once capable of 2 years is not enough to name him best ever, there is no denying hes on pace BUT 2 years is absolutely crazy he hasnt had to deal with hardly any hardships or slumps or personal things yet, how do we know cold will be the same if something happens ???
2018-01-18 00:49
Alright dude, keep thinking gtr is the GOAT. I will stick to the guy with 2 major MVPs, never had any negative event, #1 in the most competitive era of CSGO. Have a good night
2018-01-18 00:51
And you keep being a delusional fanboy, history and stats don't lie, you'll just chose to ignore them because he plays for you're favorite team, and is from you're country. If Get_right was brazilian you'd be saying the same thing lmfao
2018-01-18 00:53
Damn you seem to have left out the history part of that, and these stats are definitely pointing in the favor of GTR. I don't blame you tho for being so delusional, you've been watching CS for a couple of years now and all you know is Cold and SK, don't know anything about the past just what you've been seeing
2018-01-18 01:00
How are the stats pointing in the favor of GTR? LOL after that I know you are legit retarded. Goodbye, this is the last time I reply to you. Have a good night!
2018-01-18 01:02
How are they in favor to Coldzera??? are you really just a fucking stupid Brazilian after all, can all you read is RATING, how GTR has twice his maps played, not how hes been to more consecuative major finals, not how hes been playing this game since its inclusion, not how he had a higher rating at his peak, not how hes better at using nades or hs% god ur such a fucking imbecile, knew i should have stopped replying to you, almost all brazilians are the same such a shame
2018-01-18 01:07
We have to wait until both careers comes to an end. And then say who is the GOAT in CSGO.
2018-01-18 02:37
Yes thats how it should be, not deciding 2 years in
2018-01-18 21:02
#166
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Germany XRippeR 
+1
2018-01-18 01:21
#56
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Europe vasseldomau 
COLDZERA GOAT. Period.
2018-01-17 22:14
#61
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Brazil Goecker 
CS:GO has only one GOAT: coldzera. Period.
2018-01-17 22:22
youtu.be/ZZ9YqUyc30E intro saying everything
2018-01-17 22:25
2 years of consitency = best of all time OMEGALUL
2018-01-17 22:46
#88
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Brazil Collee 
What's the problem? The game has like 5 years and a few months. He was the best for 2 consecutive years and a few months with the most stacked scene ever. So it's almost 40% of the game's time
2018-01-17 23:09
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2018-01-17 22:53
#86
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Sweden lawflezz 
gtr top 1 all time
2018-01-17 23:05
#87
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Brazil Collee 
gtr did it when the competition was trash btw
2018-01-17 23:06
You really think coldzera will be 1st? LOL, I guess you forgot HUNDEN.
2018-01-17 23:10
#90
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Poland FOXiuu 
Well i know that he is really complete player, but man srsly? Calling someone a top 1 of all time after 2 years of his existence on the pro scene?
2018-01-17 23:13
ez the best player to ever touch counter strike. no one come even close to him coldzera grows even more when he is at big stage finals, he plays his best on big games. niko goes 1 14 at big games, boost his rating at groupstage LMAOO
2018-01-17 23:19
fnx 100% win ratio on attended majors coldzera-nope fnx top1 all time
2018-01-17 23:30
Only on majors
2018-01-17 23:39
who cares fnx top1 all time
2018-01-17 23:53
If we count sexing grills as a stat, yes.
2018-01-17 23:54
no no no, in this ranking fnx would be #2, top1 would be the sexiest player in cs history and pussy destroyer DOSIA X GOD
2018-01-18 00:25
#203
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Brazil 99CO 
fnx natural talent
2018-01-18 13:50
#103
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United States SWiFTzZzZz 
Goat of csgo, debatable Goat of all cs, hell no
2018-01-17 23:34
Yea ofc, Of all CS neo is still the GOAT. but for CSGO he is the GOAT now,.
2018-01-17 23:39
How come there are no Brazillian that are actually reasonable? i think everyone get it, you love to ride Sk
2018-01-18 00:32
I dont know, DNA maybe?
2018-01-18 00:32
This.
2018-01-17 23:46
#123
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Colombia JdS 
Cold best player of 2017!!!
2018-01-18 00:27
#127
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Europe juanoo 
the goat of cs go was whole fnatic team :)
2018-01-18 00:32
#168
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Germany XRippeR 
+1 xd
2018-01-18 01:23
+1 true words my friend! Happy feelings! -Godzera
2018-01-18 00:34
baitzera best baiter of all time ofc
2018-01-18 00:42
yes the very best by far
2018-01-18 00:48
#141
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United States BaguetteArmy 
Brazilians
2018-01-18 00:50
#152
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Brazil 99CO 
Coldzera Best e-sports Player haha
2018-01-18 01:05
ever hear of Faker? plus Brazilian FAZE fan????
2018-01-18 01:50
#204
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Brazil 99CO 
2016 - Cold>Faker. 2017 - Faker>Cold>Me>N1-14Ko
2018-01-18 13:52
#167
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Portugal GODSENPAI 
+1 agree and top 3 best cs player with neo and f0rest
2018-01-18 01:23
#206
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Norway anMu 
omegalul you can't compare this trashzera to forest. Forest's achievements during last 10 years in 1.6 + cs:go are way above what coldzera did in 2 years.
2018-01-18 14:04
#209
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Portugal GODSENPAI 
u cant compare?????? loool i know that f0rest and neo are the best cs players of all time but coldzera (not trashzera u fucking dumbass nerd) but coldzera is right behind them and one the day will become lot better in cs than all of them together. not wasting my time with a norwegian like u as my dear german friend said, have a nice day /closed
2018-01-18 17:44
#211
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Norway anMu 
Retard kid keep dreaming. Trashzera only dumb baiter and eco fragger. He is nothing without his meat shield Taco. I give cold 1-2 more years in CS then he will end up pumped with drugs and burn out like all brazilians (like we can see in football). /closed haha xD
2018-01-18 17:47
#210
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Portugal GODSENPAI 
now u probably gonna talk about my shit scene yes i know
2018-01-18 17:44
not quite 2014 get_right old get_right used to be able to 1v3 anything and was the only player to have a good spray
2018-01-18 01:49
#183
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Brazil Drezim1 
sei não em gtr era monstro
2018-01-18 02:08
#189
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Sweden Zae 
''2x consecutive mvp major winner, no other player did it'' pronax did it :)))))))
2018-01-18 02:24
#194
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Brazil beelaaw 
plays.tv/video/5a6032219e88a4783c/ace-tr.. only remember this play, he is GOAT
2018-01-18 07:08
#199
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Luxembourg alex24 
never wins a major in 2017 = best player in 2017 hltv ranking is only for plebs
2018-01-18 13:34
#205
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Norway anMu 
2015 olof > both gtr and bastardzera together
2018-01-18 14:02
FalleN is the real #1. The brains behind everything in SK + adviser to other Brazilian teams, good-guy personality, and top level individual stats. Oh yeah, and a top player from 1.6 as well.
2018-01-18 17:38
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